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New Research Suggests G-Spot Doesn't Exist
krou writes to tell us that according to a new study in the Journal of Sexual Medicine, a team from King's College London has found no evidence to suggest that the G-Spot actually exists, and they believe it may be a myth encouraged by magazines and sex therapists. The study performed is the largest of its kind, including some 1,800 women, and still was unable to find meaningful proof. Of course, the studies were probably all led by men, who everyone knows can't find the G-Spot anyway.
And the crowd goes wild..
On a more serious note, why do you have to make it so technical? Different areas stimulate differently and some are more powerful than others. If girls say that specific area pleasures them more, you don't have to make tons of researches about it. You can just believe it. And like with everything else sexual, it can difference between people.
If you are coming (as a man, and as a hint for slashdot's girls), stimulating the area between your balls and asshole makes your orgasm a lot more powerful. It's even possible to come just by stimulating that area, without touching your dick (I've done it). That is actually what's called men "g-spot", while technically its deeper in your ass, but you can stimulate it somewhat from under your balls too. If you're not up for gay sex, you can of course ask your girl to put a finger in your ass and try to stimulate it from there.
Also why not just experience? Girls tend to let you know what feels good, in a way or another. Or just ask her if she has spotted it and help you stimulate it. It will be slighty different with every girl, because everyones body and sexuality is slighty different.
If there's one area in your life thats not all technical and about science, let it be sex, and just have fun.
Is this article on slashdot for the three of us women? Or are there more women lurking than we knew about?
As most of slashdoters have not seen the G-spot either.
There's a large, easily felt physical outcropping which is one of several significant stimulus points. Maybe it's not the grafenberg spot, but it's what we think of when we hear g-spot.
There's a reason that people believe in this thing, ask for it to be stimulated on certain moods, et cetera.
StoneCypher is Full of BS
Good thing we on Slashdot found out about this. Now all of us experts on this topic can go back to our normal lives now that we know why that one wasn't working. [/smirk]
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It is in my back right pocket, shaped suspiciously like my wallet.
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The dumb thing about this study is that they ask women if they have a G-spot.
Shit, with that methodology and the right sample population I can prove that men don't have prostate glands or spleens.
No one on /. has been able to find it either.
Fantastic methodology there! We won't actually study the person, we'll just ask them! What an awesome popularity contest.
In other news God does exist, 10/10 Christians guarantee it!
The problem with slashdot is that most of its users were bullied and stuffed into lockers as kids!
And their weight, and their hair, and if their "sexy clothes" really look sexy, and their breath, and your breath, and their THIS, and their THAT, etc, etc, etc, etc....
It's amazing how much crap is going on in their heads during sex.
Give a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day. But light a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
They asked? That's it?
*sigh*
For a minute there, I thought I'd found my new dream job. "Now, tell me if this makes you have an orgasm. Don't worry, it's for science."
Is a bar in Guam. Not hard at all to find actually, unless you're really drunk.
And talked to death there . . .
Most Slashdotters think a Vagina is that blurred area over the crotch in pictures of the only naked women they've ever seen.
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If it's just "some area inside the vagina that is more sensitive than the rest" then just by the uneven expression of genes is almost HAS to exist. If you define it as "some area inside _all_ vaginas that will _always_ produce an orgasm is stimulated" then by definition it does not exist.
But of course, this is probably just the normal case of media misrepresenting the findings.
How about they give me 1800 women, and I'll decide wether or not a g-spot exists
If I knew this was a study to absolutely find proof that it exists, I would ask ALL women that have g spots to come forward, and of these I would pick 1000 ( atleast 10% will be enough to get what I need)). Then I would start by going in with a camera to pin point the exact location and type of tissue that the gspot is composed of....as I am sure it would be slightly different then the rest, as to allow a better stimulation.
Next I would then map out the exact production of ??? hormone that is released from this area or secretion, I am not sure what it is called (placenta...? yuk) I would then use this to help me promote the finding of the gspot in women that could not have gspot orgasm, or normal women, (90%)
I would then ask another 1000 candidates to come forward for testing to help find the gspot, this would entail possible stimulation and multi orgasm... as I would be relentless in finding that damn gspot.
After sending in the camera to find similar tissues, which might be present in enough of 10% (100) cases...then I would proceed to stimulate the area until the area secreted that placenta like liquid that so many women can squirt while filming those p0rnos.
As for the rest of the story, well I am sure you can figure it out. I am not a doctor, and yet I can easily find the best way to get proof of the gspot. I know it exists myself, so I can assure you that this method would probably work....except I dont need reassurance....I get enough of that when I have to change the bedsheets.
And as for the dorks who try to sell you on the fact that it does not exists, well, they could not find it, and they never will....it hides from those not worthy. I have seen the holy grail, and felt its wetly presence and can speak from experience, it does exist.
So when you are hungry for a drink, and too tired to get up during the middle of the night, you can always go under the covers for a refreshing beverage as this is exactly what the gspot is for!
nuff said
My wife claims she notices three distinctly different kinds of orgasms - clit, g-spot, and a more nebulous 'vaginal' one. She never had an orgasm until I figured out where her supposedly non-existent g-spot is - that opened the flood gates to a whole bunch of really good sex.
Does the g-spot exist? Who cares. Something in the general vicinity of where my wife thinks her g-spot is can be stimulated to bring her to orgasm. Happy wife -> more sex -> happy me!
-V-
Who can decide a priori? Nobody.
-Sartre
Come on, we are supposed to have a meaningful discussion about this here? Let me sum up all the comments that are forth coming. Jokes about /.ers not being able to get out of the basement to get a girl let alone knwoing about their G-Spot.
The 3 women on slashdot offering their opinion, which will lead to a bunch of /.ers being surprised that there are women on /.
Comments about how we welcome our new G-spot overlords. Yes, it makes no sense but most reading this are saying, woman, what is that? G-Spot, what is that...must be some new kind of fembot, cue the overlord jokes.
Imagine a Beowoulf Cluster of these....
The person always complaining about how /. sucks now and how this is not new about something tech related
Someone correcting my grammar/spelling mistakes followed by someong correcting their and a spiral for the grammar/spelling Nazis...Jsut for those people in case I don't have enough, I is not bengi thiking that yous peopel is being knwoing Engrish prperly, not like it maters anyway on a plaec of blogging.
The few /.ers who claim to have dated women and know where the G-Spot is and are trying to prove they are a man here on /.
I think I about covered it all...next topic...please. ;)
Is this something that will bepart of the next stable gnome release?
Alex, I'll take keybindings not used by Emacs for $400....
Drawing the conclusion that there is no G-spot because it isn't _genetically_ determined is ludicrous. It's like saying humans don't have fingerprints because identical twins have different patterns.
Q: How do you spell clitoris?"
A: I don't know, but I had it on the tip of my tongue just a moment ago.
I don't think they're really thinking about all that during sex, at least if they don't have some kind of a problem. Most are just relaxed and go for it, in a relationship at least. Of course, it's a different matter if its really bad sex..
I will not stop searching for the g-spot until I find it!
I'm going to claim it's irrelevant if there is such a thing as a g-spot physically. If your partner has a specific spot (in addition to the clitoris) in her genitals which by the way of stimulation induces a torrent of orgasms we might as well call it a g-spot. The single most important "sex organ" is the human brain anyway, does it matter exactly how something works if it works?
Granted, it's nice to understand stuff scientifically and all. But in my experience sex it more of an art than science... ;)
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Who cares if it exists or not? I find that if I search for it vigorously with fingers, tongue, and penis, she gets the desired result.
If Slashdot were chemistry it would look like this:Cadaverine
It's like reporting on the flavor of turkey in a Vegan magazine, or presenting a paper on the physical evidence for unicorns for peer review by Nature.
Get off my virtual lawn, you damned virtual kids!
HUSBAND: Shall we try a different position tonight?
WIFE: That's a good idea.... you stand by the ironing board while I sit at the computer and fart all night.
Since looking for it is much more fun than actually finding it.
Cheers!
That, my friend, is what alcohol is for
WTF? Over?
I've just managed to convince my wife that her "g-spot" is actually located in her throat -- don't ruin this for me!
I've abandoned my search for truth; now I'm just looking for some useful delusions.
Where do you sign up for a team like that?!?!?!
It's left blank because I have nothing to say to you punks!
You knew Julie too? Wow, I only got 50 from her.
More on-topic: After learning how to find the G-spot (thanks Julie!), I have never had difficulty finding it on any other woman. That includes two who were convinced they had no G-spot.
This "study" is bunk.
So this study is about whether identical twins both self-report the same data. It's possibly a badly executed study on genetics, but it certainly does not study what the headline says.
In a different study, the spot was found during physical examination, and reportedly can be increased in size through vigorous stimulation. I know, citation needed, but I remember facts better than URLs.
No, the idea of whether you have one is subjective. Whether you actually have one should be as subjective as whether you have a femur.
Sounds reasonable...
Sounds like actual evidence...
Sounds speculative.
Sure, but to be fair, compared to our minds during sex, a pet rock has more going on mentally.
I knew it!!! Never had a problem finding the F or H spots...but never the G.
Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already tomorrow in Australia. - Charles M. Schulz
It's incomprehensible that the question is even contemplated 'does it exist?' - Of course it does. However, the 'where' is the easiest part of the equation. The more important questions of 'when to start looking for it' and 'what to do when you locate it' are never even mentioned in passing.
So do boys! As a boy myself, I wish more boys & girls would read stuff like "Yes Means Yes" ... jesu christu why is it so hard for human beings to treat each other like human beings and enjoy themselves and each other! I hate "wester society" (for lack of a better umbrella term).
Of course, Bill "Cigar" Clinton didn't help matters much either with his antics and subsequent representation after the fact, which can tend to influence an entire generation as well.
If that's true, I am sure the current generation will be influenced by George "WMD" Bush's antics and subsequent representation after the facts...
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femurs? gspots? sadness for humanity. who are you with? communicate with them! so simple.
Screwed up the closing quote tag...
Well I guess that's all fine and dandy if you want to be married to today's typical 12 year old. Apparently my 30 year old wife and I have a little more old-school mentality then today's kids.
...the D-SPOT....I specifically told them the D-SPOT!!!!!
Can't those newsies get anything right??? Of course there's no such thing as the G-Spot, it's the D-Spot!!!
Morals went out the window about 2 generations ago
Umm, read the post again. It says "mores" not "morals" - different things.
With 12-year olds experimenting with oral and anal sex as a "safe" alternative these days, along with the Internet feeding those wicked desires to show off to the world
Sounds like you've been reading too much sensationalistic media. While these things do happen, I don't think they are as widely indulged in as you believe. Even with a more liberal attitude in society, you don't think people are still self-conscious about sex and their bodies? Just as many kids are getting purity rings and indulging in other weird virginity rituals, as are experimenting with anal and oral sex.
Not to mention the way that Hollywood has pretty much shit on the entire aspect of Marriage with their here-today-gone-tomorrow mentality of a once-sacred bond,
It seems to me that marriage is just as popular as ever. The Gen-Y kids seem to love it, which is weird for me as a Gen-Xer - where the influence of feminism and career-driven women made marriage less popular for my generation. Women of Gen-X were very skeptical of marriage, and the way Gen-Y acts today would seem very backwards and anti-feminist to them.
Of course, Bill "Cigar" Clinton didn't help matters much either with his antics and subsequent representation after the fact, which can tend to influence an entire generation as well.
Right, so how do you explain this trend towards marriage and traditional values in the generation that would have been young enough to be influenced by Clinton? I think you're just projecting.
... and then they built the supercollider.
A beowulf cluster of these g-spots
this is slashdot after all.
Who would win this election: Andrew Weiner vs Andrew Weiner's weiner.
Exactly!!! By the 12th drink, they even think fataugie is looking pretty good......
... chances are that the study was actually carried out on men
--- What?
Have you ever read Gina Ogden's book (Women Who Love Sex)?
There's a great chapter in there about women who "think off" (that is, mentally initiate their own orgasm).
I believe in the male's case it is referred to as premature ejaculation or something similar? Hell, if they can't find their own G-spots they can just think themselves off......
You just haven't had it stimulated before. This is sadly an indicator of the poor work done by their sexual partners, and doesn't prove if it's there or not. :-p).
As a man who has researched very heavily into female anatomy specifically in regards to errogenous zones, I have never failed to find a woman's clitoris, g-spot or perineum. Most women are very surprised when it is stimulated for the first time, usually during oral sex. Using two fingers with the come hither gesture is generally the most effective, although stimulating it with the penis is easy enough if you modify the missionary position so that her knees are in her chest or her calves are on either side of your neck. Any position that makes the angle of entry point towards her pelvic bone towards the center will do so.
While I may not be a doctor or researcher, I can tell you with %100 certainty that there is a g-spot, I just can't tell you what it's does for every woman (I haven't slept with them
Of all the Universal Constants, here's one I know: Nice guys finish last
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And Tiger.
BTW, thanks, man. I need something else to apoligize for and explain to my wife. Nice move.
deleting the extra space after periods so i can stay relevant, yeah.
There are two situations where what you speak of occurs.
A) You aren't doing it right, so she's not thinking about whats happening, but is instead so bored she's written 2 books, 3 short stories and translated the UN documents into every language on the planet.
B) She's a teenager (literally or emotionally, physical age isn't always the best indication)
Normal women really don't have those issues. Of course, the same is true for men as well, for us its just a little easier to distract a man with a pair of tits and a few tugs.
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my wife says it exists... so it must....
Their "proof" that the G spot doesn't exist consists of asking women if they have them. So if I ask people is they have a spleen or a vameronasal organ and 46% say they don't, then we can prove that those organs don't exist? A nerve bundle is a piece of physical anatomy, you should be able to prove if it exists or not based on cadaver research. If there is an anatomical nerve cluster, then you stimule the area on living women, have a control group where you stimulate a random area of the vulva, and compare fMRI tests. Surveys are nonsense if you are trying to prove the existence of a piece of physical anatomy.
Anything that makes sex enjoyable... Oh how wrong that could get!
Anyway - stimulation is more than one single spot, it's a full body experience. And every person is different, and it's an adventure to find the right spots.
If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker would destroy civilization.
OK, with all of the suggestions here, I am SO CLOSE to finding my G-spot and I just need a bit of help.
So I've got two fingers in (relax guys, I am legal, just turned 19 last week), and curled backward to do the 'come here' sign, but backwards, since I am doing this to myself. I am almost two inches in, and it is starting to feel good, but my fingers are short. My question is this: Should I try to go deeper by inserting a third finger, or will this just make my thumb jamb up against my balls?
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Newcomers.. ofcourse GSpot exists. http://www.headbands.com/gspot/
It's just discontinued and we all use this now instead: http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en
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it's just that google has kept it in beta.
I always wanted to work in a deli, just so a woman would come in and ask me to give her some tongue. Then I could tell her, "sorry, I don't get off until 5:00!" Then she'd tell me "I don't get off at all, that's why I'm looking to buy some tongue!"
Thank you very much; I'm here all week. Try the veal.
-Z
A Middle Eastern country is like a woman. In the short term you plan well and enter targeting sensitive areas. In the long run of course you're stuck with a costly occupation and getting away eventually costs you half your stuff.
echo -e 'global _start\n _start:\n mov eax, 2\n int 80h\n jmp _start' > a.asm; nasm a.asm -f elf; ld a.o -o a;
Let's see Mythbusters try this one.
Life==Jeopardy. All the answers are right in front us - the hard part is coming up with the correct question.
Now, you need to disprove the pesky myth of the female orgasm!
I swear to God...I swear to God! That is NOT how you treat your human!
It's called a 3 karat diamond.
The problem is that women obsess over their looks, weight and relationship before during and after sex. Of course they're not going to enjoy as much if at all while worrying if the guy is looking at their fat or what the effects of the bit of chocolate they ate over lunch will be.
This does not apply to all women but it certainly applies to heck of a lot more women than men. Women tend to be more emotional and will let things get to them more where as guys are more likely not to care and therefore enjoy sex more often.
It is because of this little theory that I'm sure the person who enjoys sex the most is the least emotional person and therefore Spock probably enjoys sex more than any person should legally be allowed to.
Don't be fooled; this so-called "research" was funded by the KDE project.
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Here is my experience with three different girls.
1st, it isn't active in any girl I've met (I'm sure they exist but I havn't met them)
2nd, when I followed the procedure in Don Hick's book (I forget the title) it worked perfectly with two of them. It was took more patience with the third but she hadn't had sex at all in a long time. All also began to ejaculate the first time or soon after second time. This is not urine. They can do this several times and then go have a full pee afterwards. It's important to stay lubricated and hydrated.
3rd, once it was active and a girl had a few orgasms that way, then her entire vagina also woke up over the next few months until there were many areas (in this supposedly low nerve area) which she would respond with orgasms. Typically, they could have 20-30 orgasms over 2-3 hours.
Hick's book basically says, lots of kissing, petting, and foreplay until her chest flushes and she starts involuntarily moving her pubic area. Then (and only then) go in to the area inside on top, about the length of your middle finger inside, find a spongy area (under her clitoris) and begin a gentle circular motion about about 1 cycle per second while continuing to keep your head near her head.
It's best to keep your own pants on and make sure there is no pressure on her to have a climax. Just say romantic things about wanting to make her feel good- no goal. And if it doesn't work, you don't make a big deal out of it.
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As much as I support the scientific method, I can see how these things wouldn't come up in a science laboratory. They are a bit sterile.
In my own body, it can take 20-30 minutes before everything wakes up. There is a very distinct feeling like having an alcholic drink that hits at about 20 minutes when nerves on the left side wake up and warm feelings spread down the leg and across the back and inside the left pelvic girdle.
She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
Of course, Bill "Cigar" Clinton didn't help matters much either with his antics and subsequent representation after the fact, which can tend to influence an entire generation as well.
Dude, remember to whom he's married to.
A good education is a bit like a STD - it makes you unsuitable for a lot of jobs and gives you a desire to spread it.
I call bullshit on this article.
I found it right here.
And I quote:
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...
If Wendy's got one, then every woman with a hot and juicy does!
oh, do we?
If you're a dude:
1. with your palm face up, stick your middle finger as far as it will go into a dudette's vaginal canal
2. still with your palm face up, point back at yourself with your middle finger. Your middle finger should now be meeting resistance from the underside of the dudette's pubic bone.
3. move the tip of your finger around a little bit until you feel something a bit like fish gills.
That's what you're looking for.
If you're a dudette:
1. with your palm face down, stick your middle finger as far as it will go into your vaginal canal
2. still with your palm face down, curl your middle finger back towards your palm. Your middle finger should now be meeting resistance from the underside of your pubic bone.
3. move the tip of your finger around a little bit until you feel something a bit like fish gills.
That's what you're looking for.
These "scientists" evidently aren't having very good sex.
OK, I was once an impressionable young man, and out of all the role models I looked up to as a kid, "President of the United States" was some guy in a suit that went around giving speeches, ranking all the way up at Did Not Appear.
Exactly.
I was not trying to support the idea that Clinton's lifestyle influenced the youth. I was merely arguing the idea hypothetically if Clinton had any influence.
Personally, I think the poster I was responding to might be one of those "liberal media is corrupting our youth!" whackjobs.
... and then they built the supercollider.
Well...date enough chicks over the years and I think you'll come to agree that most of them have some kind of a problem.
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
And unhappy with their THIS because some prior boyfriend wouldn't go downtown and said something bad and now they're embarrassed about it. Especially around the time of the month which is an awesome time to have sex.
I used to be blissfully crapless in my head but after a nasty breakup, it took a couple years to get back to sometimes being an empty and in the moment and just being a bestial primal force of lust.
She was like chocolate when she drank... semi-sweet at first and then increasingly bitter.
Where do we sign up to help?
...Sounds like you've been reading too much sensationalistic media. While these things do happen, I don't think they are as widely indulged in as you believe. Even with a more liberal attitude in society, you don't think people are still self-conscious about sex and their bodies? Just as many kids are getting purity rings and indulging in other weird virginity rituals, as are experimenting with anal and oral sex.
Well, you be the judge. See if you can dig up an article that speaks about 5th-graders experimenting with oral sex as an "alternative" from newsprint 30 years ago. How about one that reports that over 40% of women have been unfaithful in their marriage. How about pictures of women in thong bikinis or underwear? Ever wonder that it's because of the in-your-face prevalence of sex in general that things like "purity rings" were invented less than 20 years ago? There's a reason we didn't have "virginity rituals" in the 1950s. Because we didn't need to. Yes, somehow, I do believe that men and women in general have broken out of MANY layers of sexual "shells" in the last 30 years.
It seems to me that marriage is just as popular as ever. The Gen-Y kids seem to love it, which is weird for me as a Gen-Xer - where the influence of feminism and career-driven women made marriage less popular for my generation. Women of Gen-X were very skeptical of marriage, and the way Gen-Y acts today would seem very backwards and anti-feminist to them.
Unfortunately, you know what is also at an all-time high of popularity? Divorce. So, what exactly does that say about the true "popularity" of marriage? It's rather obvious that Hollywood has reduced this sacred act down to nothing more than a publicity stunt in many cases, so I'm supposed to believe that others don't do the same? Is it popular because more people love the idea of being together and remaining faithful to one person for the rest of their lives(yeah right, ashleymadison), or does it have more to do with the size of the ring on her finger, and the "awesome" factor of the wedding event itself?
And yes, this generation IS really that narcissistic, and unfortunately in debt up to their eyeballs trying to prove it. Sad, but true.
It got removed because it went "dead or dormant"
You can read about it here : https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gspot/+bug/361175
I don't know where the money came from for this research, but boy did their sponsors get defrauded. ,probably put together. ,fat ,thin, married and single all agree.
I've done many more years of research personally into this subject than any college kids could
In my research, when the particular position of my throbbing love club massages the spot in question, young, old
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I suppose this research is probably biased by the cunnilinguistic school of thought and should be ignored outright. It's practitioners are hungry for dominance in her field. Some say they are only equipped for that and not G-spot research by shortcomings in other areas.
Anyone needing an on hand experiment conducted can send her round for confirmation of my findings. She must be a disease free example.A waiver must be signed absolving me from all pregnacies of wives, girlfriends,mothers etc... You may observe, but in a professional way, quietly and clandestinely.
Lets end bunk research by making an example of Kings College. Bring them on.
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here http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/123232355/abstract
abstract of article
Genetic and Environmental Influences on self-reported G-Spots in Women: A Twin Study
Andrea Virginia Burri, MSc, Lynn Cherkas, PhD, and Timothy D. Spector, MD
Department of Twin Research and Genetic Epidemiology, King's College London, London, UK
Correspondence to Andrea Burri, MSc, Twin Research and Genetic Epidemiology, King's College London, St. Thomas' Hospital, Westminster Bridge Road, London SE1 EH7, UK. Tel: 00447943802987; Fax: 004402071886718; E-mail: andrea.burri@kcl.ac.uk, tim.spector@kcl.ac.uk
Copyright © 2009 International Society for Sexual Medicine
KEYWORDS
G-Spot Twin Study Genetics Heritability
ABSTRACT
Introduction. There is an ongoing debate around the existence of the G-spot—an allegedly highly sensitive area on the anterior wall of the human vagina. The existence of the G-spot seems to be widely accepted among women, despite the failure of numerous behavioral, anatomical, and biochemical studies to prove its existence. Heritability has been demonstrated in all other genuine anatomical traits studied so far.
Aim. To investigate whether the self-reported G-spot has an underlying genetic basis.
Methods. 1804 unselected female twins aged 22–83 completed a questionnaire that included questions about female sexuality and asked about the presence or absence of a G-spot. The relative contribution of genetic and environmental factors to variation in the reported existence of a G-spot was assessed using a variance components model fitting approach.
Main Outcome Measures. Genetic variance component analysis of self-reported G-spot.
Results. We found 56% of women reported having a G-spot. The prevalence decreased with age. Variance component analyses revealed that variation in G-spot reported frequency is almost entirely a result of individual experiences and random measurement error (>89%) with no detectable genetic influence. Correlations with associated general sexual behavior, relationship satisfaction, and attitudes toward sexuality suggest that the self-reported G-spot is to be a secondary pseudo-phenomenon.
Conclusions. To our knowledge, this is the largest study investigating the prevalence of the G-spot and the first one to explore an underlying genetic basis. A possible explanation for the lack of heritability may be that women differ in their ability to detect their own (true) G-spots. However, we postulate that the reason for the lack of genetic variation—in contrast to other anatomical and physiological traits studied—is that there is no physiological or physical basis for the G-spot. Burri AV, Cherkas L, and Spector TD. Genetic and environmental influences on self-reported G-spots in women: A twin study. J Sex Med **;**:**–**.
There are a lot of things that can cause a female to lose interest in sex. She might have a thyroid problem. Low estrogen levels. Heck, even testosterone levels (yes, women have it too) can affect it significantly. :P
Does she have kids? Pregnancy can really tear a woman up inside. Bladder prolapses, uterus prolapses, etc. Both can affect sex in a negative manner. She might be blaming you (the man) for 'not getting her off' but she really might be having some issues that are actually preventing her from getting off. It might not be you.
In order to find out, your relationship needs to have something important - communication. She needs to be able to say "Ok, I'm not enjoying sex as much as I should, so instead of casting blame I'm going to talk to my ob/gyn about it." Getting to that step is very very difficult for way too many women.
source: wife has been in ob/gyn for over 12 years and deals with this on a daily basis.
.. it helps enormously if you're already aroused. Here too, foreplay is your friend.
Personally, I think they could not have shot themselves more accurately in their feet if they user laser sights. The G-spot is even anatomically documented - there was just a gap for a century when any extra pleasure centre was censored out of anatomical drawings (no, I kid you not) but these days anatomical drawings are accurate..
Duh duh duh.
Actually, isn't Angela Jolie on the lookout for a new, more creative and accepting mate? Hmm, research..
(ducks :-).
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Well, you be the judge. See if you can dig up an article that speaks about 5th-graders experimenting with oral sex as an "alternative" from newsprint 30 years ago. How about one that reports that over 40% of women have been unfaithful in their marriage.
Just because it wasn't reported in the news, doesn't mean it didn't happen. Apparently, you want to revert to an era where "we just don't talk about those things" so you can pretend you are living in a more "moral" age. People have always been unfaithful, people have always practiced "kinky" or "perverted" sexual acts. Incest has been rife in families for centuries - if anything incest is probably less common now than it once was, because it used to be tolerated more to avoid scandal.
Ever wonder that it's because of the in-your-face prevalence of sex in general that things like "purity rings" were invented less than 20 years ago?
So, basically, it all balances out in the end?
There's a reason we didn't have "virginity rituals" in the 1950s. Because we didn't need to.
You're absolutely kidding yourself if you think youth and sexual experimentation was that much different in the 1950s.
Unfortunately, you know what is also at an all-time high of popularity? Divorce. So, what exactly does that say about the true "popularity" of marriage?
You know what people used to do instead of get divorced? Live in loveless marriages, often in misery. Which is preferable?
Also, I'm thinking that a huge percentage of those divorces are coming from people who are in your generation, not the current youth.
It's rather obvious that Hollywood has reduced this sacred act down to nothing more than a publicity stunt in many cases, so I'm supposed to believe that others don't do the same?
What makes it so obvious to you that is has anything to do with Hollywood? I don't think many people are getting their ideas about marriage from movies.
Is it popular because more people love the idea of being together and remaining faithful to one person for the rest of their lives(yeah right, ashleymadison), or does it have more to do with the size of the ring on her finger, and the "awesome" factor of the wedding event itself?
Several reasons - one, because there is enormous social pressure to get married (often from "moralists" like yourself). But probably more importantly is the economic benefit. It simply makes sense for young people to get married, because it gives financial stability, and usually comes with large gifts and property. In today's competitive economic climate, the couple the is truly in love, completely faithful, and unmarried loses out to the cheating couple that isn't really in love but gets married.
or does it have more to do with the size of the ring on her finger, and the "awesome" factor of the wedding event itself?
Oh yeah, that's NEVER been the case before in history, only with this generation.
And yes, this generation IS really that narcissistic, and unfortunately in debt up to their eyeballs trying to prove it. Sad, but true.
You're completely full of shit, and your post is nothing but a misinformed "kids these days" rant.
... and then they built the supercollider.
Well, you be the judge. See if you can dig up an article that speaks about 5th-graders experimenting with oral sex as an "alternative" from newsprint 30 years ago. How about one that reports that over 40% of women have been unfaithful in their marriage. How about pictures of women in thong bikinis or underwear? Ever wonder that it's because of the in-your-face prevalence of sex in general that things like "purity rings" were invented less than 20 years ago? There's a reason we didn't have "virginity rituals" in the 1950s. Because we didn't need to. Yes, somehow, I do believe that men and women in general have broken out of MANY layers of sexual "shells" in the last 30 years.
I love the implication that because no one wrote about it, it obviously didn't happen. And what exactly is wrong with thong bikinis? Are you arguing that the human body is naturally sinful? I think that men and women in general have many more shells to break out of.
Divorce.
I believe the common counter argument here is that while divorce may be at an all time high, its not a result of more unfaithfulness. Rather that people cheat in roughly the same ratios as before, but now its more acceptable to divorce a cheating spouse. Especially if you're a woman capable of working now so you don't have to divorce your steady income with your husband.
And yes, this generation IS really that narcissistic, and unfortunately in debt up to their eyeballs trying to prove it. Sad, but true.
The irony of this quote is massive. We're not the generation that went our entire lives spending 110% of our income. The GenY'ers could never come close to the narcissism of the baby boomers.
.. because the steaks are too high (quoting Tommy Cooper).
More, more!
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My Ex Girlfriend sure as hell had a G-spot.
And yes, this generation IS really that narcissistic, and unfortunately in debt up to their eyeballs trying to prove it. Sad, but true.
You're completely full of shit, and your post is nothing but a misinformed "kids these days" rant.
Take away Laptop, iDevice, GPS, high-speed Internet, and cell phone. Delete Facebook and Myspace accounts. Then stand back and witness the almighty wrath of Generation Me.
Every one of these devices is a TRUE gift and a privilege, not some bullshit right that is somehow "owed" to every person who reaches the "grand" age of 16. If you don't believe me, try and find one that believes any different. Seriously. Try.
'Nuff said.
Any man knew that already. Let's be serious, a place we can't find by driving and poking around simply CAN NOT EXIST! Hell, even the few brave amongst as that steeped down to asking for directions couldn't find it!
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
You have to go try it yourself, giving or receiving, whichever is appropriate. If you hit the spot right, and the subject can feel it, then it is usually really obvious to the person getting stimulated. Subjective reports shouldn't be the basis of a scientific study, which is part of the problem here. From a man's point of view, you have to know the woman well enough to judge her reactions and how much you can trust her recounting of an experience. From a woman's point of view, you just have to be able to judge what physical actions cause your orgasm. These subjective things don't translate into a scientific study well, but that is plenty for an individual to figure out for him or herself if a form of sexual stimulation is legitimate or not. There are many things that you can form a reasonable individual opinion about that are hard or impossible to evaluate through the scientific method.
Only on Slashdot can a story about sex be primarily categorized as 'humor.'
"Well...date enough chicks over the years and I think you'll come to agree that most of them have some kind of a problem"
hmmm ... what is the one common factor in all your dates?
This is bullshit. I've got a g-spot and I know where to find. It's a rather fun area to play with and I don't need scientists telling me that it doesn't exist, thank you very much.
I knew it!
the female orgasm = myth
My girlfriend seemed to have a couple of those myths a few minutes ago. And now there's that question in my mind...
After that rant I can only conclude you are either not old enough to remeber "the good old days", or you missed out on the fun part of puberty.
People always think the current crop of kids behave worse than they did, it's a common mistake called nostalgia and otherwise intelligent people have been doing it for millenia...
"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers." - Socrates.
And did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage? - Pink Floyd.
Of course they can't find the G-spot. They're British!
When I was 11, I made my first girlfriend come just by massaging her lower, inner thighs and knees. Fuck a G-spot. Donna C. - if you're reading this... Hi!
shutupshutupshutup
Don't let another priceless scientific discussion on /. get turned into another political flamefest
I don't know the meaning of the word 'don't' - J
Pleasuring her is not my primary concern.
Surely you jest! Where's your class? Nothing less than a microbrew or an import!!!!
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When you stroke and apply pressure to the "g spot", especially with the oft-cited "come here" motion, you are pushing and helping to trap blood flow in the clitoral region, just like how similar pressure would do so to a man's erection. The result is more sensation and sensitivity in the engorged clit and related area... The effectiveness of this varies by woman, but that pretty much explains it right there. It's not like a second clitoris or anything like that.
Well,
Her mouth's in the right position.
"you know why? Because we got the bomb, thats why" -Dennis Leary
On the other hand, if you're successful, they will let you drill anywhere you want.
"hmmm ... what is the one common factor in all your dates?"
Aside from them being female and single, not any one common factor I've seen really.
I am a bit older, and so are they...and you start to see more problems in single chicks that are older..it does seem to be more common.
But, even the divorced or out of relationship ones...the 'craziness' starts to shine through at some point, although maybe not quite as pronounced as in chicks that have never settled down (psychotic is often the reason I think they never got hitched or long term hooked up).
But I've dated all kinds...all hair colors, many different levels of life (wealth and education). I've never dated outside my race (Caucasian), but that's really all I've ever been attracted to. But, I've talked to friends of other races...and it seems they quite often coorobaorate my findings on all chicks having some type of problems/hangups.
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
Different people have different erogenous zones... you just have to learn to live with that. Satisfying someone sexually is totally unique to them, so you'll never get a formula that works universally.
Well stated good sir! I'm pretty sure geekmux is just trolling.
"Those who would give up Essential Liberty, to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety"
Unfortunately, you know what is also at an all-time high of popularity? Divorce.
The difference between "then" and "now", is that "then" people who got married but shouldn't have had to stick it out in misery (or, at best, contentment) for the rest of their lives. "Now", they get divorced and try to _enjoy_ the rest of their lives, because divorce is no longer the social and legal "nuclear option" it used to be.
Why do you even care about other people's attitudes towards marriage ? Do you think how "sacred" your marriage is, is measured by how other people feel about it ?
!= evidence of absence. This is especially true when the researchers narrow their data selection down so as to exclude many who might have the most experience with this as well as those most likely to even answer.
For the sake of illustration (full color, staple through the navel of course) let us consider an equivalent form of the study coming from the 'other side'. Let's start with the hypothesis that there exists on the male's prostate a pressure sensitive region so that manipulation, primarily of direct pressure, results in sexual stimulation up to and including orgasm. The primary means of manipulation is insertion of an object or body part through the anus. Subjective reports regarding this often say this orgasm is superior to other methods of stimulation. In our investigation, let's specifically exclude gay and bisexual males, and those with multiple partners. Oh, and by the way, we researchers are all women.
Now, how many of our restricted subject pool will have experienced this, how many will admit to it, how many will admit to it to a woman? And after we gather the data which has been so selectively elicited, how long do you think we'll keep our jobs after claiming that the lack of self-report of experience in this proves that there is no such reaction to prostate manipulation, and even if there is, those men are imagining it? If, that is, we are even allowed to publish it.
"I may be synthetic, but I'm not stupid." -- Bishop 341-B
It's blood flow FROM the brains that gets shut off. It would die if you shut off blood flow TO it. So us men can think just fine. We just happen to have our thinking highly focused on one thing.
And it’s more effective to stimulate is from the inside. If you know what I mean.
No. That doesn’t make you gay. If another man would be involved, then it would be gay. ^^
BTW: TMI? Pff... You’re pussies! After seeing every shocker on the net, nothing can unsettle me anymore. ;)
Any sufficiently advanced intelligence is indistinguishable from stupidity.
What I've gathered from the shabby reporting around this weird research is that their research model is completely flawed.
What they have proven is that the women's perception of the G-spot does NOT depend on genetics. Fine!
So: "all women have a G-spot" is just as likely as "no woman has a G-spot". And most likely: "the activation of the G-spot depends on how it's stimulated".
While it's impossible for you to realize that the common factor is indeed you, it is. I've been there done that. Everyone around me was insisting that I was "selecting" them, and I was insistent otherwise. What brought it into perspective for me was a conversation with a roomate. He was raised in a family full of alcoholics. And he claimed that he could "sense" if someone was an alcoholic. He couldn't explain how, other than just to say that he could. He suggested that it was mostly speech patterns and body language, but also said it was just a "feeling" Having spent time with him I think he indeed could quickly pick up on this. I have since come to the conclusion that we all to some extent or another intuit or know things about others around us that we are not always consciously aware of. In fact some of us are *Oblivious* to it. It's possible for a guy to be attracted to alcoholics or Borderline personalities and not even know it. People don't generally have sex with those they don't find attractive. In fact it's pretty much impossible to line up sex partners without a whole host of selection biases showing up. I now have a firm handle on whatever I was finding "attractive" in my old partners, and i don't find them attractive any longer (for the most part) Instead sometime's I'll see a woman and I'll think "now that right there, that's one crazy ass bitch. Come at you with a steak knife crazy...." And you know what, I would place good money on me being right. There are plenty of crazies of all different sorts out there, it's not hard to find lots and lots of them.
It's amazing how much crap is going on in their heads during sex.
Shopping lists, did the kids do their homework, did I put the bin out, what time do I have to get up tomorrow, something I watched on telly that night.... hmmm George Clooney, my husband is George Clooney.... no that doesn't work, I wouldn't want to be married to him anyway... I know, George Clooney being fucked by Brad Pitt, now there's an image, yeah baby, do it!
They at least claim to know where it is. Amusingly, this was listed as a related story beside TFA.
Interesting thoughts, but not sure how it would go with women I meet...I'm not looking to get to know them or have a relationship, I date the pretty much ONLY by how they look, and how they are in bed.
It is only when I stay with one long enough to start to actually listen and get to know her, that I find out the 'crazy' parts...I drop them and go on after that.
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
It took a long time for me to find that spot on my GF, but when I did, it opened the floodgates. Shortly afterward, some of her friends started hitting on me. She's not my GF anymore.
I can't find the spot everytime. But I find it often enough that my "research" concludes that it exists. Not sure if every girl is "wired" so that it works.
Of course, we need a car analogy for /.
I guess it is like my old Chevy. There was this place on the starter where you could put a screwdriver and short the connection between the solenoid and positive terminal, and it would start the engine. It's not a place identified on any drawing, but anyone who has done the trick knows the spot.
Place nail here >+
Not gonna bother googling for it, but I read a sciency article about a study on men and women during sex and typically the men have more on their minds during orgasm than women.
<shrugs>
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Get a life. The spot is real. I know! Just get hold of it. It's not that hard to find... ;)
When I read about a study like this it really makes me wonder about the people who formed these conclusions. There was a similar debate in the recent past about the female orgasm being fake as well.
I'm going to be frank and if you are easily offended stop reading now.
I'm not a doctor or a sex therapist but I have a girlfriend and together we both have first hand experience with the g-spot. I am not going to debate whether it is a separate nerve bundle or the physiology or lack there of. My argument in favor of it existing is one of experience. Without getting graphic, there are several ways for a woman to reach orgasm, and dependent upon how she is stimulated, it will result in different types of orgasm. Both in intensity, and physical and biological responses such as increased secretions and the color and texture of them.
When the gspot is stimulated and induces an orgasm, the excretions that result are unlike those obtained from any other stimulation. The color is different, and it comes from a different place in the vagina. The smoking gun is that it can not be replicated by stimulating her in any other way than that spot.
My opinion is that there is a nerve bundle that stimulates a woman similar to the prostate on a man, the result of which is a thick white fluid, almost like paste being excreted. Clitoral and vaginal orgasms do not result in this type of excretion.
I'm not arguing the mechanics of the g-spot, only the results. If it were non-existant then the orgasm would be as well, since the orgasm is real the spot must be as well.
... nobody can be told where the G-Spot is, you must see it for yourself