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Truth Or Dare — What Is the Best US Cell Company?

Epsilon Eridani writes "I am returning to the US after an extended time overseas and upon my return I need to jump head first into the data enabled phone bandwagon. I have to admit ... I am lost as to what is the best company to choose. Before I left the US I used a Sprint HTC phone running Windows with the 'simply everything' plan to communicate and stay organized and a Sprint Wireless Card to connect my laptop to the world. Coming back several generations of technology later, what is the best set up technology-wise to link phone and laptop or two to the Internet? (Open source solutions accepted too!) Can the Slashdot community verify some of the claims on quality of service before I give my first born up when I sign a service contract?"

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  1. slashdot poll? by Hadlock · · Score: 5, Funny

    wouldn't this be best done as a slashdot poll?
     
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    (the correct answer, by the way, is Cowboy Neal Mobile)

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    1. Re:slashdot poll? by Mr2001 · · Score: 4, Informative

      ive had the service for nearly 4 years now, and had very little issue with them customer service wise. ive called about several billing issues and theyve always been corrected completely and promptly.

      When I was a Sprint customer, I also called them about several billing issues, and they were also corrected completely and promptly.

      Then I got tired of having to correct my bill every month, so I switched to another carrier and didn't have any more billing issues to call about. First Verizon and now T-Mobile have always managed to charge me the correct amount every month.

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    2. Re:slashdot poll? by Xaositecte · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'd get serviced by cowboyneal any time!

    3. Re:slashdot poll? by wormBait · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I still have Sprint sort of indirectly because of all the billing issues. They kept messing up my bill and I kept calling to correct it right up until they got fed up with me calling in and changed my plan so that though I still have the same benefits, I pay far less than I could with any other carrier (and less than any of their advertised plans). Sure the coverage is rather poor compared to other carriers, but it is effectively a discount carrier in my case, where I get what I pay for.

    4. Re:slashdot poll? by ScrewMaster · · Score: 3, Informative

      I was a customer with sprint for 4 years. I left them specifically due to how awful their customer service is. It's like wrestling a... very difficult thing to wrestle with every time you need a small thing changed or adjusted. And there's usually a fee for that small adjustment. T-mobile has bent over backwards to help me out in every situation, and has never charged me an additional fee for something. I won't go into details here but here's what I wrote about them last week.

      I agree one hundred percent, and I went over to T-Mobile at the recommendation of some of my coworkers. I haven't looked back. To be fair, I never had a problem with Sprint's phone service ... their customer service however, was another issue entirely.

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  2. The statistics repeatedly say by ifwm · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's AT&T.

    With that in mind, I fully expect nothing but a torrent of complaints about them.

    1. Re:The statistics repeatedly say by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I've been an AT&T wireless and 3G customer since the Cingular days. Don't go with them. Their 3G coverage is spotty as hell, even in major metropolitan areas. My 3G adapter went bad and it took them a month and a half to send me a new one despite complaints to customer service. They also still tried to charge me for the time that I was unable to use 3G, though they did give me a half-month's credit (wow) after much haggling.

      I moved to a more rural area where other networks have much better support. I'm reasonably close to a tower and calls are dropped all the time, and to even make calls requires luck and skill moving around. People, as well as ATT tech support, tell me that my phone is going bad but I didn't have that problem weeks earlier when I lived in a big city. Could be a coincidence, but others have similar complaints.

      One more thing - Once I called ATT customer service and the lady(domestic, not a foreign call center) answered, "Verizon customer service, how may I help you?" I asked her if it was ATT and she giggled and said, "Oh, that happens all the time." It could have been an innocent mistake, but it's possible that the two and possibly others all use the same damn call center.

  3. And now by Dunbal · · Score: 5, Funny

    For a list of entirely subjective replies.

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    1. Re:And now by bertoelcon · · Score: 4, Informative
      I bring you a quote.

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  4. Verizon has best coverage... but it's verizon. by malakai · · Score: 5, Informative

    From a pure technical perspective, Verizon will get you the best coverage. But the sales people are vicious.

    AT&T has iPhone obviously, but shitty coverage. I lend my phone to friends on AT&T in a couple different cities.

    T-Mobile is worse coverage then AT&T. But has more open phones.

    If you've got nothing right now, I'd go Droid on Verizon, pay 40 bucks for the unlimited data and use Google Voice for routing of your calls and LD service.

    1. Re:Verizon has best coverage... but it's verizon. by Darkness404 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Outside of cities though, AT&T has pretty good coverage. Verizon is going to get you the best cell service, but like you said, its Verizon. T-Mobile would be the company that I would reccomend, but sadly their coverage isn't too great.

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    2. Re:Verizon has best coverage... but it's verizon. by AnswerIs42 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Define coverage though... I have AT&T and a friend has Verizon.. I get a lot more coverage in areas than he does, but he gets more 3G coverage.. but since I use my phone for... *gasp* calls.. 3G is a moot point.

      It all depends on what you want to do... I still keep AT&T mainly because of the rollover minutes. I have some months where I may only use half my minutes.. then there are months I use well over my minutes.

      comparing costs... they are all pretty much the same... over priced.

    3. Re:Verizon has best coverage... but it's verizon. by phantomfive · · Score: 5, Insightful

      They're all bad. Verizon? Check out verizarape.com. ATT? It's got it's own facebook hate group. Do you hate sprint? I hate Sprint was created for you. T-Mobile? They've got you covered. And there are even youtube videos.

      Among the high quality comments you will find on these websites are things like this gem: "[carrier] had reeeeeally been bothering me lately! They think they're so cool, but if I could, I would DESTROY [carrier]!!" So now you know everything you know.

      Seriously though, the 'best' carrier depends on your needs and your area. In this story you will have posts from people who say "X carrier has horrible coverage" and others who say the same carrier has awesome coverage. It really depends on where you live.

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  5. huh? by socsoc · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is like asking what is your preferred way of being tortured. They all have negatives and are would not exist if they had the competition that Europe does. AT&T doesn't care to increase their network, T-Mobile doesn't have real 3G, Sprint and Verizon are still CDMA so you'll have to get a really expensive world phone if you want to go back overseas... Better off sending telegrams.

  6. Re:T-Mobile by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    No, they don't. AT&T's 3G network is on a different frequency than T-Mobile's, and the iPhones only support the AT&T 3G band. You can use unlocked (a step beyond jailbroken) iPhones on T-Mobile, but only with Edge support.

  7. T-Mobile by mactard · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you're in a major metro area, T-Mobile is by far the best and cheapest. They also let you tether with all their smartphones without an additional tethering charge. If you're in the boonies, it seems Verizon is the only way to go.

  8. T-Mobile, UMA, and $0.10 per minute by mosel-saar-ruwer · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Once you have used T-Mobile and UMA at $0.10 per minute, you will NEVER go back to standard plans.

    UMA is basically "GSM over IP over 802.11g", and it allows you to make GSM cellphone calls [billed at a standard $0.10 per minute] from any publically accessible WiFi hotspot.

    I'd buy an older UMA phone off of eBay, and purchase a $50 [$0.125] or $100 [$0.10] prepaid plan from T-Mobile, and say goodbye to monthly fees forever.

    1. Re:T-Mobile, UMA, and $0.10 per minute by jeffstar · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I have a blackberry flip that does UMA. I've found the call quality to be bad over my time warner cable connection, which is generally good.

      why use UMA over 802.11 for .10 a minute when you can use GSM for .10 a minute?

      The UMA calls should be free or really cheap since you are not using their network or are likely in a place where they don't even have coverage!

      It is funny that they charge you 10 cents a minute when you are effectively providing your own network. You could just as easily be using skype at that point.

  9. Wrong payment type by GaryOlson · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... before I give my first born up when I sign a service contract?

    You are not ready for the US American cell phone companies. Packets are transported by the souls of the damned who sign service contracts. Your firstborn is not payment enough; you must provide the souls of all your friends and family.

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  10. Sorry, but... by djupedal · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...if you're coming back from overseas, you'll find there is no 'best'.

    I've been back and forth for the last decade, and it is always a disappointment coming back into the US and trying to get decent cellphone service. The US is a backwater of customer abuse and services gone wanting.

    When living/working in Japan, South Korea and China, I learned not to discuss one countries offerings versus the US unless I was looking for laughs...

    I worked for Samsung in SK and for a major domestic telecom in China, so I had ample opportunity to see things from both the corporate and consumer sides.
    These days in the US I carry a cellphone only for emergencies. I don't text, don't use mobile banking, internet, etc. I make maybe one call every month or two, and those are usually from my car where the phone is coupled via Bluetooth to the head unit and everything is hands free. I can't bring myself to accept a locked in contract and the high fees are best spent elsewhere... For me, the whole cell phone experience in the US is a bust.

    Cell phones I brought back from Asia are going on 2 years old now and still have features that were ubiquitous there that aren't yet common here.

  11. a complex question with no single correct answer by Tumbleweed · · Score: 5, Informative

    "It's complicated."

    Signal quality and coverage depend on multiple things - the carrier's infrastructure vs your (common) locations, and your phone. Verizon's coverage, say, in one city, can be completely different than in another city. There is also the difference between voice quality and data, and then there's data SPEEDS to consider. You also want to look at future upgrades. Verizon will be the first one going to LTE (the next big jump in data connection speeds), though Sprint has already rolled out WiMax in some cities (a competing 4th gen spec), noone is likely to be coming out with any WiMax smartphones until the second half of the year, by which time, Verizon will be on the verge of their LTE rollout. You can get WiMax cards for your laptop now, though, if you just can't wait.

    There's also the issues of phone selection and plan pricing to consider, and whether you're going contract-free or not. We're in a period of transition this year on more than one front - the impending switch to LTE in the second half of the year, and the decimation of Windows Mobile-based phones by Android-based phones, oh, and the now 'superphone' type phones - ones with 1ghz-class processors and WVGA screens (like the Nexus one and HTC Bravo).

    So, I guess I would start by thinking about finances. Can you afford to outright buy a phone? If you can, I'd suggest that so you can go contract-free and increase your choices for switching in a year if you need to based on how the industry shakes out this year. The beginning of 2011 is going to look VERY different from what it looks like now. Android will be matured, LTE will be available in most major cities by Verizon at the very least, Sprint's WiMax infrastructure will possibly be starting to switch over to LTE if it is, indeed, as simple as upgrading network tower software, and we'll see how mature Android is, how much Microsoft bribes the cellphone companies to put out WinMo 7-based phones, and whether the iPhone finally upgrades to 'superphone' status and becomes available on networks other than AT&T.

    If you can't afford to outright buy your phone, then go with Verizon or Sprint for the 3G coverage (for now), assuming 3G is a big concern. Verizon vs Sprint is a matter of network quality/phone selection vs price. Verizon (currently) has the better phone selection and network quality over Sprint, but Sprint has those Simply Everything plans (I'm on the Simply Everything 450). Verizon is officially going to be carrying the Google Nexus One phone later this year. Sprint was completely silent during CES on what phones it's going to be carrying. If they get the HTC Bravo (the hardware that is essentially the Nexus One), I may stay with Sprint, especially if it has the Sense UI on it, which the Nexus One does not. Verizon seems to have made the biggest official commitment to the Android platform of any of the major US carriers. I just wish they'd match prices with Sprint. If I could get an HTC Bravo on Verizon at Sprint's prices, I wouldn't hesitate to sign a two-year contract.

    I wouldn't consider AT&T or T-Mobile because of their 3G coverage and network reliability issues at this time, but those AREN'T issues for many people in many locations. You'll want to find out from people where you live what those networks are like there.

  12. Agreed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I've been w/T-Mobile since they started in the US. Here's why I like them:

    * Avid supporter of Android. First one to introduce the G1, and now the first partner w/the Nexus One.
    * Support advanced android features like visual voice mail for free and auto-notification when you near your minutes limit
    * Reasonably priced, as cell phone companies go.
    * Customer service has been shockingly fast/friendly whenever I've needed them (which admittedly, hasn't been often)
    * Great coverage in US. Every city I've been to has had solid coverage. I've only been to fairly large cities though.
    * After 3 months of service, they give you unlock codes for your phone.
    * GSM network so most phones can be used overseas-- successfully used my US G1 in US, Mexico, Canada, Italy, Switzerland, etc. T-Mobile's parent company is Deutsche Telekom.
    * They are not AT&T.
    * As far as I know, they did not spy on Americans when Bush asked them to.

    And no, I don't work for them.

  13. Re:It depends by stephanruby · · Score: 3, Informative

    all of them have a 30 day escape clause in their contracts.

    That clause didn't show up there by accident. In the US, it's the law.

  14. Re:Choices man. Choices. by davester666 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I believe it also depends on EXACTLY where you want to use the phone, particularly where you regularly want to use it.

    You can look at the carriers web site and it can clearly show you are right in the middle of their coverage area, but get no signal, or only an intermittent signal, or only 2G instead of 3G.

    I would suggest going and signing up for service by a major carrier and trying it out in the area's where you primarily will use it, and if it doesn't work well, return the equipment and cancel the service quickly [I believe most of them let you return everything for little or no penalty with a 1/2 month or a month].

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  15. Having used T-Mobile, Verizon, and AT&T, by aussersterne · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've settled on AT&T. I've spent a lot of time on the road and have been to nearly every state, and AT&T has been generally okay for me (certainly not good, but okay). But with that said, Verizon and T-Mobile both sucked for me, with both coverage issues and serious billing issues (the kind that get you red in the face and ruin your day, then your week, then your month, until you're telling people how ridiculous it's getting).

    So I've been with AT&T several years now and am uninterested in switching at this point (and I live in NYC, where people [usually not AT&T customers] are sure AT&T is at its worst).

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  16. Re:Friends and family by LostCluster · · Score: 3, Informative

    That's actually offered by AT&T under the term "A-List", Sprint under "Any network any time", and T-Mobile as "MyFaves"... all require their higher plans.

  17. Sprint by MobyTurbo · · Score: 5, Informative

    Sprint is about the same price as Tmobile (and until recently, were cheaper), has better 3g coverage by far than Tmobile, and roams on Verizon's network in case you *are* heading for the boonies. Sprint has a bad reputation they can't seem to get rid of, but have made vast improvements in customer service under their new CEO Hesse. That having been said, all of the carriers suck....

  18. N900 or Moto Droid or Nexus One by gavron · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The question is clear and other people's answers appear to have the same problem I do -- namely that it's unclear WHAT kind of service you want (good voice quality, good data quality, good SMS, pricing, etc.) and no criteria for "Best."

    At this point I could stop having criticized the question, but instead let me offer you some answers, and you can pick and choose.

    I have a Nokia N900 on a T-Mobile "all you can eat" plan. The plan is great. The phone is great. In my area T-Mobile can't hold a call.

    I have a Motorola Droid on a Verizon "don't eat very much but enjoy your meal" plan. The plan is so so. The phone is almost great. Verizon coverage for voice and data is awesome here.

    I have a Treo 700wx running Windows Mobile 5. I believe it's three years old. It was my Verizon phone prior to the Droid, and while it was annoying in requiring reboots and factory defaults, it was reliable. I did not love it very much tho, as I'm not a big fan of Windows Mobile. Here it works on SPRINT or Verizon, which are good.

    If you go 1 hour north, there are totally different carrier coverages. However, on their respective maps they all appear to have equally good coverage here or there.

    SO: When asking what is the best US Cell company, realize that
    1. There are different companies throughout different parts, regions, and even cities in the same country.
    2. Some companies (e.g. Cricket) resell limited services of some other companies (e.g. SPRINT or Qwest or Verizon within a limited geo. area where I am)
    3. Some companies (e.g. Verizon) are an amalgamation of other companies, and their services vary greatly. (Verizon *in this area* formerly Cellular One formerly Bell Atlantic)
    4. Data services and voice services are a function of many different things including how they provision service to the cell sites. Literally moving two miles away may get you 700Kbps on 3G data and good phone service, but the other way no data and decent phone service.
    5. SMS is something I consider critical. Others do not.

    So, in sum, to wind up this post, Voice Coverage, Data Coverage, SMS Coverage, and availability of phones are what can be used to judge the best US Cell company -- in my little neighborhood. Your conclusions 5 miles away will vary.

    Good luck with your quest.

    E

    1. Re:N900 or Moto Droid or Nexus One by rickb928 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Most people have no idea how cell service works. They complain that they have no service at home, not looking at the coverage map that shows a poor spot. The hilly country, distance from freeways and high-density residential don't figure into their assessments of capability.

      When I lived in Maine, I suffered from multiple problems. Several spots where reception was poor to nonexistant, all due to topology - hills, trees, you name it. On the coast, it took 2 years and many calls to diagnose a roaming problem, and when I finally got through to a diligent tech, presto! Roaming along a 35 mile section of US Route One worked! I know I wasn't the only one calling, but 2 days after my best session with a Cingular tech, magic!

      In Maine, and a lot of other states, topolgy is important. I imagine an Francisco is tough. Tulsa, not so much?

      Now I live in the Phoenix area. Flat as a pancake, relatively speaking. Two spots along the Pima and Red Mountain freeways I drop calls, due to some tower handoff problem. But I'm complaining about afternoon rush hour, and I bet this is a capacity issue. So do I complain about being able to keep a call for the busiest 3 hours of the day? Well, sometimes I do.

      I also had a hard time getting 3G at home, so I located the tower with a tech and sat a quarter mile from it. No 3G. He got me into the phone setup screen on my G1 (*#*#4636#*#*, from memory) and found my phone was set to GSM only. It was a small miracle I got any 3G at all. Fixed that. Only 7 months after getting my phone, and 4 calls to TMO service. No other tech even dreamed of checking that setting.

      How many phones are set up wrong? Who knows? Are all equally capable? Who knows.

      But I've NEVER had a billing issue in 4 years with TMobile, nor in 7 years before that with AT&T/Cingular. Go figure.

      It is not so simple as people think. Of course, they largely don't care until it impacts them, of course.

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    2. Re:N900 or Moto Droid or Nexus One by forkazoo · · Score: 3, Informative

      This OT but quite some of the posts I read recently (not only in this thread) that mention QOS of mobile operators in US make me wonder - are they so bad as not being able to provide basic service throughout the country (something that seems to be put in license laws in Europe i.e. operators must provide service almost everywhere where humans are or their license is gone) or is it simply skewed view of a technically demanding audience of /. or something else? Anybody has a view on that?

      I live in the state of Colorado. This State is about half sparsely populated flatland, and about half sparsely populated Mountains, with a thin strip of quite dense population running down the middle where the two sides meet. (The I-25 Corridor). In the city of Denver coverage is just fine but up in the mountains, trying to cover every single little town with a population 100, and occasional family cabin would not just be incredibly expensive. It would be such a large construction effort that it would ruin the wilderness which is why people live in those parts of the mountains in the first place. This doesn't even get into the fact that Americans generally avoid robust government regulation, insted hoping that the "free" market will save us all and be more efficient. America also made a heavy early investment in copper telephone lines, so we never had an actual need for wireless service like a lot of developing nations without legacy infrastructure to depend on. Despite all this, when you compare us to other large Countries with uneven population distribution like Canada, Russia, China, I think cell coverage is actually probably not too terribly bad in comparison.

      The technical, political, financial, and ecological difficulties of trying to have 100% coverage just in this one state make it basically impossible to seriously consider. The idea of a single mobile network operator actually having 100% coverage in America just isn't seriously considered.

  19. Re:T-Mobile by InlawBiker · · Score: 3, Informative

    I was with AT&T for over 10 years then switched to T-Mobile because AT&T had no signal in my new house. T-Mobile and Verizon stores let me borrow a phone and bring it home, which was really cool of them I think. I went with T-Mobile because I could get 2-3 bars at home my old GSM phones would work.

    Anyway I am 100% happy with T-Mobile. Their 3g service is NOT oversubscribed and will go to 21mbps (HSPA+) in 2010, everywhere. The price is lower and their customer service is far better, hands down.

    AT&T has better coverage in remote areas. Their 2g signal is pretty much everywhere, while T-Mobile is in the metro areas and along the highways only.

    I am envious of the Droid, which makes my Cliq look like a toy, but Android phones seem to be falling from the sky these days. One equal to the Droid should come around this year.

  20. Re:Frist tsop by Kell+Bengal · · Score: 3, Funny

    What exactly do you have against thin small outline packages, anyway?

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