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Asus Says Netbook Is Dead, Hello Wearable Computers

pinkgadget27 pointed us at a story where the ASUS chairman waxes poetic on the end of the Netbook class that it pioneered, ChromeOS replacing Android, and the future you probably didn't know about: Wristwatch Computers.

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  1. Wait there pardner by starfishsystems · · Score: 1

    But don't hold your breath.

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    1. Re:Wait there pardner by cheesybagel · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Great. Asus leadership has turned to worshiping vaporware crapola. This reminds me of Nokia's cellphone designs before the iPhone came out and eat their lunch in the high end. Make usable and manufacturable designs people. Geez.

    2. Re:Wait there pardner by Daniel_Staal · · Score: 1

      Even they think that's more of a long-term thing. (They say 5 years, before they are on the market. Which might be possible. It'd take longer yet for them to take off, my opinion.)

      From the article, they have no reason to think the netbook is dead yet. Just that sooner or later it'll be replaced with something smaller and more functional.

      Which is probably true, as long as you don't think it'll happen in the next couple of years.

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    3. Re:Wait there pardner by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      Wristwatch computers were popular in the 90s. For 2 months.

    4. Re:Wait there pardner by cheesybagel · · Score: 1

      Well they are wrong. Screen surface size matters. A wristwatch form factor is not a replacement for a laptop or even a netbook. People have claimed this could be circumvented with foldable displays, but those have been vapor so far. E Ink was supposed to be used in foldable displays, yet the one use of it I can remember of after all these years, the Kindle, is most definitively not foldable. Foldable displays also have issues regarding input. A hard surface is useful since it means it can withstand pressure (finger, pen whatever).

      A wristwatch form factor can make sense for a phone replacement, but some of us bought smartphones because we wanted to do web browsing, email, or even gaming. For these applications a larger screen is preferable.

      Such small displays defeat the entire idea of why netbooks have been so successful: light and small platforms in which you can do web browsing, e-mail, light gaming, presentations, or light office work.

    5. Re:Wait there pardner by Daniel_Staal · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Which would be one of the reasons they are not ready for prime time yet: The display issue hasn't been solved.

      Sooner or later it will be, somehow. Foldable, projection, HUD, implant, something else; one will work well enough to be usable. Then we'll see if the other problems are solved or solvable.

      Really: He's not saying it's ready now. He thinks it will be sometime soon, and he's got his company working on it so they'll be ready when it is.

      He didn't say the netbook is dead. Just that it's a short-term solution, and long-term it'll be surpassed.

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    6. Re:Wait there pardner by biryokumaru · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why do all these designs rely on tiny interfaces? That Nokia video had it fold out, but the "keyboard" was still minuscule.

      There used to be an old projection keyboard, where it projected a keyboard onto whatever surface you wanted, and made little clicky noises when you typed. That plus one of those tiny projectors duct taped around the innards of a smart phone and you've got a respectably powered computer with a large screen and a normal sized keyboard that fits in your pocket. Well, if you have kinda big pockets.

      You'd hafta have the software that college kid came up with a while back to make the projector not look crappy on uneven surfaces, but that's certainly not an unreasonable issue. Maybe same for keyboard, maybe not.

      Still, this would be just about as usable as a desktop machine, just about as powerful as some of the junk I see non-tech people using on a daily basis, and when it's off, it's smaller than a desk phone. Imagine turning your computer off and suddenly having your entire desk empty.

      Where is that computer? The one that doesn't have the sucky tiny keyboard where you can't even freakin' hit F5 anymore without pressing an fn button? Why isn't that the future of computing?

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    7. Re:Wait there pardner by foobsr · · Score: 1

      Imagine turning your computer off and suddenly having your entire desk empty.

      I'd rather leave it on and let 'the software' hide the crap.

      CC.

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    8. Re:Wait there pardner by t0p · · Score: 1

      Well they are wrong. Screen surface size matters.

      Yeah right. And I suppose microscopic computers made of swarms of nanomachines won't catch on either. Who'd want to watch a video on a screen that small, eh?

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    9. Re:Wait there pardner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can buy wristwatch phones (there's a godawful patent lawsuit heavy jackass who sues people selling them) just they suck.

      Tell me... what kind of battery life are you going to get from a device smaller than a cell phone battery?

    10. Re:Wait there pardner by Creepy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      There is nothing new to Asus vaporware, but out of every five failures comes a great product. Some of their products are stillborn like the external video card that wasn't compatible with Vista's driver model, others are released but technical issues or poor adoption like the C90S upgradable laptop. Then they come out with a tiny notebook that runs x86 and create an industry.

      Other companies that make innovative products like Apple had their flops too, but sometimes a flop drives a new market, like the Newton, other times they move into an existing market and fail, like the Pippin. Then out pops iTunes and iPod and iPhone and they're a market driver again.

      Even Microsoft had its flops amongst their many hits (love em or hate em, you've gotta admit, they are very successful) - the MSX, and Bob to name two.

    11. Re:Wait there pardner by gmack · · Score: 2, Informative
    12. Re:Wait there pardner by biryokumaru · · Score: 1

      Awesome!

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    13. Re:Wait there pardner by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Eh? What does this have to do with the post you reply to?

    14. Re:Wait there pardner by mjwx · · Score: 1

      But don't hold your breath.

      Yeah, the Asus EeeRebreather costs an arm and a leg.

      The arm and leg modules can also be purchased for the low low cost of just one kidney.

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    15. Re:Wait there pardner by MaskedSlacker · · Score: 1

      Anyone who isn't already part of the grey goo, I'd wager.

  2. Ergonomics? by captaindomon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yeah, because we all know how easy it is to use a 1"x1" oval viewing screen strapped to your wrist, to view large PDF attachments, for example.

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    1. Re:Ergonomics? by jornak · · Score: 2, Informative

      Imagine something a little more bracelet-like... and even then, the idea of a wristwatch/wearable computer isn't a new idea at all... Companies have being developing wristwatch computers for a long time now.(http://www.pcworld.com/article/65623/is_that_a_pc_on_your_wrist.html)

    2. Re:Ergonomics? by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not to mention you'll only have one hand to use it with. Have you ever tried typing/texting with a single hand? Its not as intuitive as two thumbs or a full fledged keyboard with 10 fingers.

    3. Re:Ergonomics? by BronsCon · · Score: 4, Funny

      Mod this +5, Ironic.

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    4. Re:Ergonomics? by Zerth · · Score: 1

      While it wouldn't make PDF viewing much easier, the fictional computer cuff at the bottom of the article had approx 2-3"x 3" viewing area, similar to an iphone or bb storm. And I know people who read PDFs on those.

    5. Re:Ergonomics? by cromar · · Score: 2, Interesting

      That's erm... sort of a good point, but come one. Think outside the box a little.

      The desktop computer is on its way out for everyone but typists and coders. When your wristwatch automatically interfaces with any number of large screens at your office or home, not to mention printers and fax machines, who is going to be worrying about the size of their watch display? We have the technology to do that now... and that's just one of many possible evolutions of UI. The possibilities are quite astounding.

    6. Re:Ergonomics? by TheLink · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Currently there's tech that:

      1) allows the blind to see - but with crappy resolution. Also do a search for "seeing tongue" - seeing is in the mind.
      2) allows paralyzed people to control devices with their thoughts.

      So if tech improves, the screen will be in your head. And the keyboard too.

      No need to waste energy on backlights.

      Add wireless tech and some "software glue", and you'd have virtual telepathy and virtual telekinesis.

      The real problem is Copyright Law and DRM. The laws and DRM systems might prevent you from recalling videos you record (as you walk in a mall that has copyrighted background music) or limit you to limited plays per pay...

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    7. Re:Ergonomics? by Chris+Burke · · Score: 2, Funny

      Oh come on! Didn't you ever have a friend who wore one of those wristwatch calculators? Weren't you amazed by how quickly and easily they could calculate tips or do other feats of mathematical prowess in mere decaseconds by poking at the tiny, tiny buttons?

      This would be just like that, but with applications that fit even worse onto a miniscule one-handed interface!

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    8. Re:Ergonomics? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you bothered to look at the article, the concept picture is not a 1"x1" oval viewing screen. It has a decent sized screen, larger than a cell phone. You know that any argument against the screen size and usefulness is applicable to cell phones, right? We've heard them before, and the market has proven them wrong.

      Why would viewing large PDF attachments on a mobile device be the dividing line between useful and useless? How often do you do that even on your PC? This is a device that's they're saying is the next step from netbooks, not a PC replacement.

      BTW, a 1"x1" oval is called a 1" circle.

    9. Re:Ergonomics? by Jeng · · Score: 1

      Why would we wear our computers when they are already on our phones?

      Or are they also looking at wearable phones?

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    10. Re:Ergonomics? by shabtai87 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Some users might be dim enough to need a backlight for that anyways...

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    11. Re:Ergonomics? by cromar · · Score: 1

      How about dictation, or handwriting recognition (say writing a letter and scanning it with the watch). Or how about your watch serves a number of functions that don't rely on typing, including serving as your data uplink. Your other devices would interface with your watch to send and receive data. You could write your letter on another device you carry, such as tablet PC or iPod, which would then use your watch to send the email.

      The future looks pretty cool if you think outside the box a little. It's very easy to start thinking that windowing systems and cell phones are the pinnacle of UIs, but they are not, and do not particularly integrate well with normal human life.

    12. Re:Ergonomics? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How come my watch battery now weighs 1/2 a pound? Oh, to run that nVidia watch? I just wanted to tell the time and do some jogging with a stopwatch darn it. Now it shows my time on all of the screens in the buildings I run past.

    13. Re:Ergonomics? by kaen · · Score: 1

      I think it would be better, as you could use all the digits on one hand, rather then just your two thumbs. It might take a little getting used to though.

    14. Re:Ergonomics? by camperdave · · Score: 2, Insightful

      *MY* phone has no computing power whatsoever, and sits solidly on my desk 24/7.

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    15. Re:Ergonomics? by cromar · · Score: 1

      The 1/2 pound battery is there to increase the effectiveness of your jog! As for the rest, well, err... it was the Chinese!!

    16. Re:Ergonomics? by maxume · · Score: 1

      The tech is going to have to be pretty amazing if you want me to stop using my retina. And I don't have particularly good optics in front of my retinas (I'm right on the edge of needing correction to drive, but not over the edge yet).

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    17. Re:Ergonomics? by maxume · · Score: 1

      Well, unless it could accurately respond to natural language queries (or even semi-structured queries).

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    18. Re:Ergonomics? by frank_adrian314159 · · Score: 4, Funny

      a 1"x1" oval viewing screen strapped to your wrist

      Nah, it's going to be a "Flavor Flav"-style wearable that goes around your neck - 17" screen and all.

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    19. Re:Ergonomics? by Issarlk · · Score: 1

      Because then you can hold your phone to watch TV while typing on the wrist computer to chat with a friend over MSN.

    20. Re:Ergonomics? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, I resent that, my calculator watch works great. Want to set the alarm? Just type in the time. Battery life not bad either--seven years. I wish Casio would add a Taylor-split function to the stopwatch, other than that it's just right (as a watch). Never had any interest in the Casio data bank watches.

    21. Re:Ergonomics? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've got one of those. It's always a surprise when someone calls me on it instead of my normal portable phone.

    22. Re:Ergonomics? by TheLink · · Score: 1

      Why would you stop using your retina? Think of it as "aux video".

      Or a third eye (or even more ;) ).

      It'll be interesting if children get augmented at an early age. We currently have stereoscopic, 3 colour vision, but they might have something far better.

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    23. Re:Ergonomics? by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      Despite having an iphone of my own, I still don't buy into the mindless hype. The device is
      very limiting and very constraining. This is why there's so much fixation on the apple tablet
      idea. Such a thing might make the multi-touch UI something more of a curiosity.

      Even a smaller netbook is problematic for those of us with big hands and current sub-netbook
      type interfaces are nothing to do even serious goofing off with.

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    24. Re:Ergonomics? by HiThere · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What you do is, you wear glasses that display the screen across your entire visual field, and you connect them to the computer with Bluetooth.

      Why not? The glasses have already been built. (At least one design of them has.) And it might make for a *REALLY* interesting driving experience.

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    25. Re:Ergonomics? by Xemu · · Score: 1

      How about dictation,

      Double the killer select all

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    26. Re:Ergonomics? by Captain+Spam · · Score: 1

      So, something more like a bunch of Leelas from Futurama running around*? Like, whenever that thing she wore on her wrist actually did something?

      *: Er... more specifically, more like a bunch of Leelas, most of whom would be male, so not as exciting as you'd think.

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    27. Re:Ergonomics? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, because we all know how easy it is to use a 1"x1" oval viewing screen strapped to your wrist, to view large PDF attachments, for example.

      True story. At keynote session at Microsoft's TechEd conference in Europe a few years ago they were demoing the (then new) Windows on mobile devices.

      The presenter showed Excel running on a mobile phone. But all you could see was cell "A1" of the spreadsheet. Running yes, usable no.

    28. Re:Ergonomics? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The desktop computer is on its way out for everyone but typists and coders.

      If I was 10 years younger, I'd have to ask you: "What's a typist?"

    29. Re:Ergonomics? by maxume · · Score: 1

      The direct implants don't have anywhere near the limited resolution that the stuff that gets attached to the optic nerve has.

      I imagine that we will both die before a neural implant has better resolution than just drawing on the retina with a laser.

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    30. Re:Ergonomics? by rolfwind · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The desktop computer is on its way out for everyone but typists and coders. When your wristwatch automatically interfaces with any number of large screens at your office or home, not to mention printers and fax machines, who is going to be worrying about the size of their watch display? We have the technology to do that now... and that's just one of many possible evolutions of UI. The possibilities are quite astounding.

      The desktop has been "dying" forever. You know who likes desktops? People who want to input into their computers worth a damn. The miniature keyboards and screens on other devices aren't efficient enough for serious all day use.

      Do you:
      -want to type up a report on a phone?
      -want to do CAD drawings on anything but a desktop?
      -want to design anything on anything but a desktop?
      -want to use mathematica on a phone?

      I'm sure, with time, there will be apps that do all these things on phones, but just shittier. I have tried various voice-to-text things, it's not there yet, but even at 100%, you're not going to replace a keyboard, if nothing but the simple reason of driving everyone around you nuts. But also because editing with voice sucks and is slower. The only thing going to replace a keyboard is mind control... possibly eye control.

      (BTW I would include most notebooks in the same category as desktops because: their alphabetical keyboards are about the same size, the screens are equivalent or even bigger than many early desktops and still 50-75% of the size of normal ones today. Basically, a notebook managed to maintain the size of all the actual user interface parts of a desktop and shrink everything else, in terms of power being almost a desktop equivalent. Also because there is no fundamental difference is the usage of the two other than portability -- a phone or watch have other forms for different functions.)

    31. Re:Ergonomics? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "By the way, try washing your wrist sometime!"

    32. Re:Ergonomics? by Amouth · · Score: 1

      just wait - i bet at some point they get the bright idea of using the person wearing it as a heatsink..

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    33. Re:Ergonomics? by Grizzley9 · · Score: 1

      At least with the Slashdot crowd it would be simple to implement the "shake to shuffle" setting.

    34. Re:Ergonomics? by cromar · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You caught what I was talking about, but missed my point. Desktops will become tools for those who need them - coders, gamers, graphic designers, etc. No one else is going to want or need them. Granted, I'm just brain storming here, but I am sure that given the sum of human creativity, we will come up with something more efficient than keyboards for these other tasks that don't involve typing. It's already happening with email, IM, SMS, etc. You don't need a full keyboard for that. And what you do need a keyboard for is a rather limited set of computing applications. Personally, I don't see the problem with dictating longer letters - it's worked in the past. But, there any number of other ways - digital pens/tablets, portable keyboards, scanning devices, etc. that could in the near future prove to be reliable replacements.

      In 10 or 20 years from now, people are going to look back aand laugh at use for spending the 70's through the 2030's spending so much time sitting in front of a computer terminal. The terminal/desktop and its beloved windowing systems and keyboard/mouse are going to become necessary for fewer and fewer computing applications as UIs evolve.

    35. Re:Ergonomics? by xeoron · · Score: 1

      If only there were ocular implants to project a virtual HUD, then wearable computer's would be much more useful....

    36. Re:Ergonomics? by aliquis · · Score: 3, Funny

      At least with the Slashdot crowd it would be simple to implement the "shake to shuffle" setting.

      Connect that to the paper-clip from Office and you can get a dialog box like:
      You seem to be masturbating.
      Do you want me to:
      [ ] Tweet this!
      [ ] Search for datingsites.
      [ ] Leave you alone?

    37. Re:Ergonomics? by jpmorgan · · Score: 1

      The thing to remember about /. is it has a certain minority population who are practically luddites. At least, remarkably unimaginative. Any new computer form factor is inevitably met with scorn and derision, because it's not exactly the same as the computers they're using today, and god forbid you have to learn a new way of interacting with technology once every twenty years.

      Usually whenever this sentiment is expressed, it is met with a reply along the lines of 'but the way things are now is BETTER,' followed by a host of flawed reasons why the given technology is stupid. Because, as we all know, a wearable computer is useless without the ability to read PDFs on it.

      Now I'm not saying every new innovation is ultimately good and worthwhile. But there are sadly a lot of so-called geeks who are willing to dismiss new ideas without even giving them a fair chance.

    38. Re:Ergonomics? by ceoyoyo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why would you want to wear your data uplink on your wrist? I keep mine in my pocket. It's called a smart phone. That way it's less likely to get broken, doesn't advertise itself as something worth stealing, and I don't have a big clunky thing on my wrist.

      A watch computer is a non-solution looking for a problem. The form factor just isn't useful for much other than telling the time.

    39. Re:Ergonomics? by psithurism · · Score: 1

      Have you ever tried typing/texting with a single hand? Its not as intuitive as two thumbs or a full fledged keyboard with 10 fingers.

      The article says the devices will probably have touch, voice, and gesture recognition. I have used the iphone's on screen (touch) keyboard before, it's not fast but it is intuitive. I've also used speech to text before; many of the speech to text applications are quite good these days. They are faster than typing though you often end up with what looks to be a poorly spell checked document (turn write by the top sign). I've not seen reasonable gesture sensitive typing, but maybe in five years.

      Also, my last phone used predictive text so I could send texts with one thumb, with pretty good speed.

      I don't think the keyboard barrier will be an issue here.

    40. Re:Ergonomics? by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      "The real problem is Copyright Law and DRM."

      Well, and that little problem of actually interfacing directly with the brain, input and output, reliably and safely. Have you noticed how the examples you cited are (a) very limited and (b) only used to try to restore some semblance of normal function? That's because they're too dangerous to use in normal people (hey, if you screw up a blind guy's retina while you're putting in an implant, who cares?).

      There are a LOT of technical problems to overcome before you're even at the point where DRM et al is even a potential concern.

    41. Re:Ergonomics? by Onymous+Coward · · Score: 1

      Shush, you! This is no time for feasible speculation! Can't you see there's a curmudgeonfest in process?

    42. Re:Ergonomics? by circletimessquare · · Score: 3, Funny

      i remember that kid

      he would type "dolly parton is 5'5" (55) and her chest size is 37 (37) and she weighs 80 pounds (80). if she lost 8 pounds (08) she would be"

      and then he would hold his wrist upside down and 55378008 becomes "BOOBLESS"

      this was the very height of witty reparte in the 6th grade

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    43. Re:Ergonomics? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've typed with one hand, if you know what i mean.

      But really, it is pretty simple to type with one hand, especially if the keyboard was designed around typing with one hand.

      In something the size of your average computer watches, you could have 6-8 buttons across the bottom, LED matrix buttons, 2 buttons rotate the keys currently showing in the other spaces.
      Or there could be a dial for that under the buttons.

    44. Re:Ergonomics? by iMac+Were · · Score: 0

      but come one

      Can I come two, sweetie?

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    45. Re:Ergonomics? by bondsbw · · Score: 1

      Wrist watches are only good for video chat with your dog. That's why Penny also carried a netbook... er, computer book.

      Now, if I only had a helicopter in my fedora, I'd be set.

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    46. Re:Ergonomics? by gad_zuki! · · Score: 1

      >In 10 or 20 years from now, people are going to look back aand laugh at use for spending the 70's through the 2030's spending so much time sitting in front of a computer terminal.

      You could have made the exact same prediction ten years ago, but it hasnt happened. The web was supposed to break us away from the old desktop computing model. Cheap laptops and tablets were going to kill desktops. Applications would "run on the network" (whatever that means) and we would all be wearing eyeglasses with magical displays.

      Turns out the futurists were wrong, as usual. The web hasnt migrated away from the "need big monitor in front of me" assumption, except for specialized mobile pages which people see a temporary compromise until they can get to their home laptop/desktop. Business doesnt see the need to get more expensive laptops when cheaper and easier to maintain desktops do the job just fine.

      >It's already happening with email, IM, SMS, etc.

      Every 100 wpm texting teen is also more comfortable with a laptop.

      The real issue is that human interfaces are limited by the limitations of humans. Our hands are big and our eyes need x amount of space to absorb x amount of information. We need x amount of resolution and size to comfortably read. While desktops have been replaced by laptops, theyre still the same UI and the same concepts. I have yet to see a successful break from the windowing system we are familiar with and the latest paradigm killers like Sugar on XO have been huge failures.

    47. Re:Ergonomics? by BoberFett · · Score: 1

      Or maybe some of us get tired of hearing that some new form factor is going to render every previous product obsolete. I'm happy with netbooks. Laptops are too bulky, the netbook is a great portable form factor. Wrist computing doesn't interest me, so don't say something stupid like "netbooks are dead."

    48. Re:Ergonomics? by Medievalist · · Score: 1

      Despite having an iphone of my own, I still don't buy into the mindless hype. The device is
      very limiting and very constraining.

      Who let this man post? WHO LET THIS MAN POST?

      RELEASE THE KILLBOTS!!!!

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    49. Re:Ergonomics? by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      Insightful and darned funny.

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    50. Re:Ergonomics? by PPH · · Score: 1

      Have you ever tried typing/texting with a single hand?

      For p0rn sites, it will be zero hands.

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    51. Re:Ergonomics? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > It's already happening with email, IM, SMS, etc. You don't need a full keyboard for that.

      Oh? Then be prepared for a world where all txt lks lk ths becz typn it out tks 2 lng...

    52. Re:Ergonomics? by Creepy · · Score: 1

      I personally don't see a long term future with wrist watch computers, though the wrist may be an ok place to put the brains of the computer. Personally, I think eyeware/earware is the right direction, especially as minification of video circuitry gets better. It'd be nice to have some kind of hand apparatus to serve as a virtual keyboard, as well. The current state of most computer glasses is the resolution is terrible (often only 320x240 or 640x480), but you get a virtual 70-80" display - that would need to improve significantly.

          Ultimately, I'd expect the glasses to be multipurpose - serve as corrective lenses (for nearsightedness, at least) - if the lenses needed to be opaque to put LCD/LED, cameras could display what you should see on the screen, sunglasses, light amplification glasses (e.g. for night driving), and a video display - even a heads up display - it could communicate with the car for info like speed and road conditions.

    53. Re:Ergonomics? by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 1

      While it may not be feasible to do any sort of heavy viewing on the actual device screen, I can foresee a device in the near future that solves this issue through one of the three following methods (or some combination thereof): 1. Roll-out flexible OLED displays. They already have them, just not in mainstream consumer items yet. This makes it possible to store the screen in a compact space and enlarge it when necessary. 2. Micro-projectors. They have them for cellphones already and they are pretty decent and getting even smaller. Who cares how big your device screen is when you can project a 50" display with great clarity/color/contrast? 3. Wearable monitors. This is ultimately where we are going. We have bluetooth earphones for phones, and now that texting is on the rise I'm sure we'll have the visual counterpart any year now that actually gains market traction. The problems with devices currently on the market are that they are too damned expensive, ugly as sin (sorry, "futuristic"), and don't have a portable/lightweight enough form factor to justify carrying around like a bluetooth earpiece.

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    54. Re:Ergonomics? by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 1

      Wow--totally forgot to format the post or preview it. Sorry for the blob of text!

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    55. Re:Ergonomics? by ardle · · Score: 1

      Er, how about a watch that is powered inductively from the keyboard?
      We may have moved from one box into another...

    56. Re:Ergonomics? by lennier · · Score: 1

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    57. Re:Ergonomics? by LandGator · · Score: 1

      we *write* with one hand now. QWERTYUIOP is not the sole input mode, after all. A competent handwriting interface should be able to parse out alphabet or words from finger motions.

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    58. Re:Ergonomics? by DMUTPeregrine · · Score: 1

      And yet thousands of people strap their iPods to their biceps at gyms around the country. "wristwatch" might not work well, but "armband" sure does. I can easily see a more powerful iPhone-like device coming with an arm/wristband.

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    59. Re:Ergonomics? by TheLink · · Score: 1

      > There are a LOT of technical problems to overcome before you're even at the point where DRM et al is even a potential concern.

      You think they'll only overcome them after Mickey Mouse becomes public domain in the USA? :)

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    60. Re:Ergonomics? by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      I don't think they'll care. Nobody cares what method you use to put existing media into your brain, so long as you've paid for the privilege. A direct brain interface is just one more media format they can (re)charge you for.

    61. Re:Ergonomics? by JimFive · · Score: 1

      I personally don't see a long term future with wrist watch computers, though the wrist may be an ok place to put the brains of the computer. Personally, I think eyeware/earware is the right direction,

      I think the long term is something like bluetooth. You have the computer(CPU and storage, maybe cell hardware) as a small(2"x2"x0.2" or less) object in your pocket. All interface devices are connected wirelessly. You could have a "phone" handset that you pull out and dial with, or a headset with voice dialing. You could display on an iphone sized display, a monitor, or a projector. Your headphones could have the song selection controls built in or as a separate device (or require a separate keyboard, but nobody would buy that one.) You could even have a watch (that syncs to time,even) that could double as a keyboard, or have a mini screen if you really wanted to, but the brains would all be in your pocket (or in your purse, or on your keychain).

      Basically, you take a smart phone and give it the ability to externalize all of the interface functions with a standard protocol so that the phone can stay in your pocket if you want it to.
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  3. DUPE! by Brett+Buck · · Score: 1

    A dupe from Dick Tracy, that is.

              This "wearable computer" crap comes along every 5 years. It's still the epitome of lame, even by slashdot standards.

         

    1. Re:DUPE! by sznupi · · Score: 4, Informative

      More than dupe, Asus Waveface Ultra looks more or less like a direct rip-off of one concept from two years ago: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_Morph

      Though the idea, when approached that way, as an advanced "cellphone" which can also wrap around your wrist, isn't completely stupid...

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    2. Re:DUPE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes. Yes it is.

    3. Re:DUPE! by hairyfeet · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Maybe as a cell phone, but as a PC? I'm sorry, but I have to say this is a big can o' fail. Did you read the rest of what the guy said? Crap like this gem "I don't believe that the PC will keep evolving from simply [having] four core processors, to eight core to 16 core," he said. "I am tired of only thinking about the regular, dull PC roadmap."

      I'm sorry, but that is just dumb. Thanks to multicore we are finally getting computers that can keep up with even the fastest of us, and even my more clueless customers are loving the new AMD quads. All they talk about is how responsive their new PC is, and how no matter what they do their new PC never seems to slow down. I just tell them it ain't gonna get anything but better, as MLC SSDs and DDR3 becomes truly mainstream we will finally have systems able to feed 8-16 cores, which will enable even the most computational heavy tasks such as video editing to become "clicky clicky" and done affairs.

      And WTF? A watch PC? It will either be slow as fucking Xmas, have a usable battery life of 30 minutes or the battery will nicely roast your wrist. Battery tech hasn't gotten good enough to pull off that size without some serious tradeoffs. And while my dad can handle his netbook just fine I can just imagine him trying to deal with that thing on his wrist.

      So in the end I have to say this guy is full of it. I'm sure that most of the netbook manufacturers would like netbooks to just die, as it is cutting into their more lucrative laptop sales. But they can't get out because their are plenty of other companies that will happily take that business, and with the threat of ARM based netbooks, or "browsers in a box" they must really be worried. Hence they are desperate to cook up the "next big thing" to try to cook up a new and more expensive niche. But I just don't see folks giving up those nice sub $400 netbooks for an ultra expensive watch.

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    4. Re:DUPE! by religious+freak · · Score: 1

      Here's a snazzy vid on Nokia Morph for those less inclined to expend the effort reading... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX-gTobCJHs

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    5. Re:DUPE! by sznupi · · Score: 1

      Right, and related video remind of another concept, Nokia 888: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G32JmZkRddc

      3 years old even; this "new" Asus concept is basically identical.

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    6. Re:DUPE! by istartedi · · Score: 1

      Thanks to multicore we are finally getting computers that can keep up with even the fastest of us,

      And yet, they still don't boot up as fast as a C64.

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    7. Re:DUPE! by hairyfeet · · Score: 1

      My Windows 7 with Hybrid Sleep, which uses an 8Gb flash stick to offload to, boots up faster than I can reach for my mouse, so I really don't know how much faster it can be.

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    8. Re:DUPE! by istartedi · · Score: 1

      That's a nice hack, but the computer isn't really "off". It's a vampire device. To be fair though, the C64 probably vampired if you left the "power brick" plugged in. You could, however, unplug the brick and get true fast-boot from zero power consumption. If you can do that with Windows 7, then maybe (big maybe) it might be worth giving up XP.

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    9. Re:DUPE! by hairyfeet · · Score: 1

      I can, hence the name "Hybrid Sleep". You see what it does is offload the RAM to the flash, which then acts as a quickbooting SSD, while Windows suspends to RAM. Then in case you have to cut power (which I did this morning when a storm rolled through here) Windows uses the flash to reload the RAM and off you go. Since I have a nice fast flash it added maybe another 3 seconds or so to boot.

      In either case it takes longer for my nice old CRT to come up than it does for the OS to be fully hooked to the net and usable, and my Syncmaster isn't slow to come on. So if you haven't put it through its paces yet I would suggest downloading Windows 7, as I'm sure that MSFT has the trial version of Win 7 just as they did XP and Vista before them. As someone who absolutely HATED Vista I can say that Windows 7 is truly a step up from XP, and a really nice OS. Hybrid Sleep, much better fine grain support for multicore (and it really rocks on the new AMD quads), doesn't suck up RAM/CPU cycles like Vista, Internet TV and the nice Media Center, It just really is a nice OS. Try it and I bet you'll like it.

      Oh and I had a VIC, so I know all about "instant on". Windows 7 is the closest I have yet seen to instant on while giving me a full OS with multimedia and networking. With hybrid sleep it really is uber fast, and I don't have top o' the line by a long shot. AMD 925 Quad, 8Gb of RAM, AMD 780v board, dual 500Gb SATA drives, and a 4650HD. So as you can see this isn't some Core I7 SSD super rig. But with Windows 7 HP X64 it is really fast, stable, and is ready to rock before I can even put my cigarette in the ashtray. If you want fast it is head and shoulders above XP as far as boot speed.

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  4. Here we go by Cornwallis · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Wristwatch computers. (One more thing for my cat to attack.)

    IMO, this is simply yet another attempt to manufacture a "need" where none exists as in The Next Big Thing...

    1. Re:Here we go by perlchild · · Score: 1

      Especially to find a genuine need, a portable, inexpensive computer to browse wifi from anywhere. Asus et al. love the netbook craze, except the margins on them are nowhere near "luxury item". A wearable computer would be, at least at launch, and that makes them salivate.

      Big companies marketing seems driven by the wishful thinking of marketing more and more, and less about what computers want to buy, I predict they will meet with harsh reality's clue-by-four in the near future.

    2. Re:Here we go by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Wristwatch computers? I want a wristwatch phone! A wrist watch is far too small to use as a computer; even my i776 cell phone is crappy using it to access the internet, as the screen is way too small.

      The netbook, otoh, is small enough to carry around and big enough to watch a movie on.

    3. Re:Here we go by Qzukk · · Score: 2, Informative

      I want a wristwatch phone!

      Done!

      Now, where's my Dick Tracy wristwatch videophone!

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    4. Re:Here we go by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Search for: "Anycool MW01"

    5. Re:Here we go by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      Alas, it's an LG. I had an LG phone a few years back and it was the buggiest piece of shit I ever had. The display would often be upside down, backwards, mirrored, etc. and I had to take out the battery to cold boot it to get it straight. I sent it back under warrantee and the one they replaced it with was even worse. So I've sworn off any LG electronics -- fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

    6. Re:Here we go by Voyager529 · · Score: 1

      and less about what computers want to buy

      I don't think that any respectable marketing department is worried about what computers want to buy.

  5. To Infinite... And Beyond! by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 1

    Is it the future already?

    How soon till I can flip open my wrist panel and call Star Command?

    1. Re:To Infinite... And Beyond! by mcgrew · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Is it the future already?

      What do you mean "already?" Do you know how long I had to wait for my own flat screen computer, communicator, self-opening doors, and all the other impossible stuff they had on Star Trek? About the only thing that we don't have, out of all the impossible things we do have (microwave ovens, phonorecords you can play in your car, GPS, iPods...) is faster than light travel, replicators, and transporter pads.

      Yes, this is the future, and I had to wait a long time for it.

    2. Re:To Infinite... And Beyond! by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 1

      I grew up with Television, Flatscreens were around by the time I was 10, there has been a Microwave around since as long as I can remember.

      The future for me is voice interacting Smart AI computers built into my car or home, a handheld device that -actually- does everything, and transparent/holographic heads up displays in the consumer market.

      I know we aren't quite there yet, but we're close.

    3. Re:To Infinite... And Beyond! by jedidiah · · Score: 2, Interesting

      ...yes. Zardoz, not Star Trek.

      A TOS terminal is like a Mac Plus without the fashion sense.

      It even uses the same media... '-)

      A lot of tech is not as new as the kids think it is.

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    4. Re:To Infinite... And Beyond! by cheesybagel · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Nor phasers or medical tricorders. Getting there though.

    5. Re:To Infinite... And Beyond! by jank1887 · · Score: 1

      Is it the future already?

      Yes...

      Yes again...

      Yes again...

      Yes again... ...

    6. Re:To Infinite... And Beyond! by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      There was a slashdot article yesterday about a sonic weapon that stunned at meters away and killed at feet away. And they've had tasers for a while. As far as medical tricorders, we're past that. (Link is to a journal)

      In one of the Star Trek movies (I don't remember which one), McCoy gives Kirk a pair of antique reading glasses for his birthday, as Kirk is allergic to the drug they use for age-related farsightedness; they don't have that drug yet (which presumably softens the lens, which gets hard with age, so it can focus) but we do have a device that's even better -- a CrystaLens. I had one implanted in my left eye in 2006; the FDA had approved it in 2003. It's an artificial lens on struts, so you can focus with it. My eyesight in that eye is now better than 20/20 at all distances! I wore glasses for extreme nearsightedness since I was seven, I don't need glasses at all any more.

      But all McCoy could do for Kirk was give him reading glasses. How quaint!

    7. Re:To Infinite... And Beyond! by babymac · · Score: 1

      We're also missing flawless voice interfaces for computers and instantaneous language translation. But it's getting better!

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    8. Re:To Infinite... And Beyond! by winwar · · Score: 1

      "There was a slashdot article yesterday about a sonic weapon that stunned at meters away and killed at feet away."

      It's called a bomb. Been around for ages. Other names include: grenade, mine, etc.

      "And they've had tasers for a while."

      Which is like a phaser how exactly? A phaser is a silly idea anyway. A magical weapon that can stun creatures of various size at the flick of a switch without lasting effect but can also kill by disintegration. Is a lightweight, one handed weapon that rarely runs out of ammo and can be used as a massive bomb if needed.

      "As far as medical tricorders, we're past that."

      No, we are not. We are not remotely close. It's a hospital in a box. Actually it far better than a hospital for diagnostics. It's about as likely as the phaser.

  6. Point of order.... by Itninja · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Just so Asus is aware. If the netbook is truly dead after only 26 (or so) months then you did not 'pioneer a new class of computer', you 'started a short-lived fad'.

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    1. Re:Point of order.... by DeBaas · · Score: 2, Funny

      Fine, but they can pry that 'fad' out of my cold dead fingers!

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    2. Re:Point of order.... by girlintraining · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Just so Asus is aware. If the netbook is truly dead after only 26 (or so) months then you did not 'pioneer a new class of computer', you 'started a short-lived fad'.

      What's fascinating is that we still even listen to the suits and their marketspeak. If I had a penny for everytime some guy in a suit thought he had the next "revolution in [tech]", I'd be a $1E+06. O_o Netbooks became popular because for a lot of people -- that's what they spend most of their time doing.

      When my friends hangout at our apartment, we all bring our laptops. Life without internet is scary! But a number of us have internet on our iphones, or wifi on smartphones and other devices, and spending $250 to have a very small form-factor laptop that can do internet isn't a bad idea -- it's something to throw in the bag on the way out the door, just in case you need to check e-mail or google something quick. Netbooks filled a niche -- which is now being taken over by more capable smartphones and embedded devices. That niche, however, is very much still alive and advances in technology or price reductions on netbooks could easily revive them.

      People don't care what you call the thing, as long as it does what they want it to... and it helps if it looks good doing it.

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    3. Re:Point of order.... by mewsenews · · Score: 2, Informative

      Reading the article (yeah yeah), he says nothing about the netbook being "dead" or even declining. Just your standard Slashdot editorial slant -- fabricating a headline out of thin air.

    4. Re:Point of order.... by girlintraining · · Score: 0

      Reading the article (yeah yeah), he says nothing about the netbook being "dead" or even declining. Just your standard Slashdot editorial slant -- fabricating a headline out of thin air.

      Any given technology can be said to exist in one of two states: Growing, or dying. About the only thing in the modern computer that's escaped decades of change is the lowly 3-pronged power cord, which is still backwards compatible with XT-class systems. Slashdot, in its rush to reach a conclusion, simply skipped dying and went right to dead. At the rate things are going, in a few years we'll need ways to describe a technology that was never born, that died, resurrected, and is now eating Balmer's head. Maybe we'll call it the zombiemonkeyboyification of a technology, who knows...

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    5. Re:Point of order.... by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 1

      Besides, the origin of netbooks is varied and fuzzy that "pioneer" is a worthless or contestable claim anyways.

      It's nice that they're trying something different. But their vision of a replacement is not likely to succeed, you only need to look at the long history of palm top/ultraportable/netbook/UMPC style computers that were interesting but failed to take the market beyond a niche. Claims of the death of an existing technology from anyone with vested interest its supposed replacement must be taken with a grain of salt, or just flatly ignored, because it's usually just PR.

    6. Re:Point of order.... by FlyingBishop · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually, the suit in question was very wise, much more so than the Slashdot headline makes him out to be.

      If I had to paraphrase what he said in the article, it would be more along the lines of

      Yeah, we've got all sorts of crazy shit in our development labs, but I don't think it's going to go anywhere - well, at least not this year. And even if it does, we're raking in the dough on these netbook things (which we invented by the way) and I don't think that's going to change anytime soon. However, some of this shit is pretty cool, and it will eventually become commonplace.

    7. Re:Point of order.... by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      The Von Neumann architecture is pretty much still the same, with the lower implementation details fuzzed around but the actual architecture still identical.

    8. Re:Point of order.... by Bakkster · · Score: 1

      Netbooks only died because nobody wants to put SSDs in them any more. A netbook was useful to me because it had only one moving part (a fan), was low pwer enough to use during class, and had a full keyboard. If flash memory were cheaper, I think we'd see it continuing to fulfill that niche. As soon as you add an HDD, it's just a small, weak, expensive laptop.

      That said, I still love my 1st-gen Eee PC for travel. There are times I want a keyboard and the Droid just isn't big enough.

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    9. Re:Point of order.... by religious+freak · · Score: 1

      Unless the cycle time of disruptive innovation is shortening...

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    10. Re:Point of order.... by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Any given technology can be said to exist in one of two states: Growing, or dying.

      There's a third choice: stable. Mature technologies are all around us, silently doing their jobs without much fuss or bother. We don't notice them, because we've grown up with them, but at one time they were the Next Big Thing. They stopped growing except for very incremental improvements years or decades ago, but they're not going away any time soon.

      Look at your refrigerator. Unless you've spent a lot of money for one with various gizmos, odds are pretty good it's much like the one your parents had when you were a kid. It may be a little quieter, a little more energy-efficient, and the temperature control may be a little more consistent, but it's basically the same machine. But there was a time, just within living memory, when temperature-controlled, electric-powered food storage in the home was absolutely revolutionary. It changed the way people lived at least as much as the internet has, and it addresses a far more fundamental need. But unless it breaks, you probably don't spend much time thinking about it. Why should you? It's just a fridge.

      I suspect that the classic desktop (or "desktop replacement" laptop) PC is going the same way. It's a useful machine, and there's really no particular reason to change it, or -- for the vast majority of users, anyway -- to run out and get the latest and greatest. Nor is there any reason to get rid of it. There have of course been many incremental improvements, and there will continue to be. But the fundamentals of the user experience haven't really changed that much for the last decade. It's my strong impression that a much higher proportion of computer users are quite comfortably using ten-year-old computers than was the case ten years ago, and I expect that proportion will only continue to increase. Using a 1990 computer in 2000 was a constant exercise in frustration; using a 2000 computer in 2010 is just fine for what the majority of users do on a daily basis. By 2020, they'll be refrigerators.

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    11. Re:Point of order.... by Itninja · · Score: 1

      I also owned a 1st gen Eee PC and it had dozens of 'moving parts'. All keys, the power button, the screen hinge, etc. Now if they put SSD's in a tablet with only a soft keyboard, that would be something.

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    12. Re:Point of order.... by Itninja · · Score: 1

      So how would you classify technologies like, say, the wheel or the flush toilet? There is such a thing as stable tech you know. That's why we have the axiom 'don't try to reinvent the wheel'.

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    13. Re:Point of order.... by Tikkun · · Score: 1

      When my friends hangout at our apartment, we all bring our laptops.

      What are these "friends" you speak of?

    14. Re:Point of order.... by Fujisawa+Sensei · · Score: 1

      Reading the article (yeah yeah), he says nothing about the netbook being "dead" or even declining. Just your standard Slashdot editorial slant -- fabricating a headline out of thin air.

      That's not thin air, that's a methane releasing orifice.

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    15. Re:Point of order.... by Culture20 · · Score: 1

      When my friends hangout at our apartment, we all bring our laptops.

      What are these "friends" you speak of?

      It was a television show a while back about some neighbors in NYC who did stuff together because they were too poor to afford computers.

    16. Re:Point of order.... by Ant+P. · · Score: 1

      Asus is now sticking its head in the sand hoping the avalanche it started will go away, after realising backstabbing Xandros with a FUD campaign for the sake of getting a few dollars more discount on their XP OEM licenses was only successful in driving customers to other brands.

    17. Re:Point of order.... by Bakkster · · Score: 1

      Allow me to clarify: only one motor. Motors suck up power while hinges and buttons do not, hence why I cared.

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    18. Re:Point of order.... by pleappleappleap · · Score: 1

      I don't know about that. These days, the closer you get to the CPU, the more Harvard things get.

    19. Re:Point of order.... by pleappleappleap · · Score: 1

      Farts are mostly air.

  7. Dead already? by hansraj · · Score: 3, Informative

    Really? I thought the point of the article was that its death was inevitable, and that wearable computers are the future. How does that translate to "Netbooks are dead already"?

    But hey, if you filter out editorial stupidity from slashdot we will have only one or two "news" every week or so.

    1. Re:Dead already? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      Your mistake was to read the article, nobody else does.

    2. Re:Dead already? by hansraj · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I know you are joking but I didn't have to read the article. All I had to do was realize that the headline sounds immensely stupid given that wearable computers are not really a replacement for a netbook as of yet, and then I just had to skim the article to verify that it was the poster and not the original article that was being moronic.

    3. Re:Dead already? by Taibhsear · · Score: 2, Funny

      But hey, if you filter out editorial stupidity from slashdot we will have only one or two "news" every week or so.

      You appear to have accidentally a whole word there...

    4. Re:Dead already? by circletimessquare · · Score: 1

      Your mistake was to think about the subject matter before posting a comment, nobody else does.

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  8. This will go the way of the "Smart watch" by mafian911 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Anybody remember Microsoft's smart watch? No?

    1. Re:This will go the way of the "Smart watch" by jgagnon · · Score: 1

      I had a friend that bought one. It was cool for about 10 days and then got tossed for more functional "watch".

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    2. Re:This will go the way of the "Smart watch" by IANAAC · · Score: 1
      I had one and liked it generally, aside from the miserable battery life.

      But it's really stupid to even consider comparing something you wear and something you use to actually get work done. I realize these suits want us to believe that netbooks are only capable of media consumption, but they're capable of and used for much more.

    3. Re:This will go the way of the "Smart watch" by jedidiah · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Someone made a Linux watch once as a novelty...

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    4. Re:This will go the way of the "Smart watch" by bell.colin · · Score: 1

      Yes, M$N Is still sneaking in charges on my credit card for a trial i was dumb enough (at the time when i still liked MS) to activate a trial for one that i won at a conference (Comdex 03 i think?) Despite the fact the page stated it would only use my CC for verification purposes for the trial (which i never renewed because the damn thing didn't even work)

      I can't call to cancel since i have no flipping idea what disposable msn acct name i created just to play with this damn thing so i just keep telling the CC people to dispute and say i never signed up for such a service (i signed up for a free trial and didn't renew, i never signed up for anything to purchase) MS only started charging about 2 years later and keep trying to sneak it in every so ofter. (Fucking M$N Assholes are worse than AOhelL)

  9. Fashion Forward by ElectricBuddha · · Score: 1

    Ahhh, my years of wearing Casio watches finally pays off.

  10. great! by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 2, Funny

    I can wear it as I commute with my personal electric flying machine to my shiny new, high paying "Green" career.

    Are the editors working from the Gernsback continuum today?

    1. Re:great! by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      Where's your tails and top hat?

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    2. Re:great! by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 1

      Lost the hat flying to work! Chin straps just don't work with top hats, don't you know, from a fashion POV.

  11. eeh... by girlintraining · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...Wristwatch Computers.

    hahahaha HA HA HA oh god, oh god... it kills me.

    You know, I can just believe that we can cram everything but the input and display into that small of a space -- but the human interface problem makes any further degree of minaturization rather pointless for general-purpose computers. In select circumstances, you can get away with a lack of keyboard or a mini one, but really -- anything you plan on using heavily you want to have a decently-sized display and an input device with more than two buttons.

    But even if you could solve the i/o problems, there's another more damning one: energy requirements. You need a power source for it. And there just doesn't seem to be any real technology innovations that are going to give you the energy densities you'd need to make it work for awhile.

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    1. Re:eeh... by girlintraining · · Score: 1

      And before the EEs jump on me -- yes, I know it is possible to power it using a near-field source (or similar tech), but that's just moving the problem elsewhere: the battery still has to exist somewhere and you're giving up efficiency to put it anywhere but in the unit. --With a tip of the hat to Tesla.

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    2. Re:eeh... by Zerth · · Score: 1

      If the watch was just a display+wireless to the main unit, it wouldn't need much juice. Consider it a way to dual/triple head your phone.

    3. Re:eeh... by IrquiM · · Score: 1

      What cracks me up is that everytime somebody says "computer this" and "computer that" everybody is comparing it to a desktop / laptop.

      It's not going to be something you have instead of your computer at the office, or your gaming rig at home.

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    4. Re:eeh... by girlintraining · · Score: 0

      It's not going to be something you have instead of your computer at the office, or your gaming rig at home.

      Maybe not, but humans like tools that are lightweight, versatile, reliable, and powerful. The diversity of computational devices is due to shuffling our priorities about those things around -- you can have powerful, but not lightweight. You can have versatile, but maybe not reliable. Or you can have reliable and lightweight, but kiss powerful goodbye. Technology advancements continually bring all of them closer to coexisting peacefully in a single Grand Unified Computational Device That Is The Answer To Life, Universe And Everything.

      Nachos?

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    5. Re:eeh... by compro01 · · Score: 1

      Just because the processing/storage hardware is in the watch doesn't mean the display and input device has to be.

      Though their concept device looks to have about as much screen real estate as any current touch smartphone.

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    6. Re:eeh... by 91degrees · · Score: 1

      Well, you might be able to squeeze a laser projector down to size. And there are projection based keyboards, so it's just the power issue to deal with.

      Do you think people might be persuaded to lug a car battery around on a trolley?

    7. Re:eeh... by Jeng · · Score: 1

      Congrats, you just described a smart phone.

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    8. Re:eeh... by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 1
      Think of it instead as just a portable node in a grid -- it can connect to any other node (including display nodes such as those glasses you're wearing) and draw on their processing power; or it can wokr on its own to deliver reminders and information to you.

      The form factor as we consider it today is pretty limiting, but it doesn't mean that there's no potential there when approached from a different perspective.

  12. Pipboy by Ralz · · Score: 1, Funny

    I've always wanted a pipboy on my wrist, FO3 style so I can check if my legs are broken and how many HP I have left. It could certainly come in handy for things like that.

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    1. Re:Pipboy by Steauengeglase · · Score: 2, Funny

      Forget detecting broken bones, give me a wrist watch that can repair a machine gun, feed me, enable magical objects that increase my luck and change the resolution of my eye sight all from a set of sub-menus.

    2. Re:Pipboy by biryokumaru · · Score: 2, Informative

      FO3

      For shame.

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  13. Wristwatch computers? Already have that. by GreatBunzinni · · Score: 2, Informative

    We already have wristwatch computers for decades. That's what electronic wristwatches are, those that Casio has been pumping by the barrel since the the 80s, such as this one. Naturally, nowadays we have more computing power available in a smaller form factor but that doesn't mean that we haven't been wearing computers for ages.

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    1. Re:Wristwatch computers? Already have that. by girlintraining · · Score: 1

      We already have wristwatch computers for decades. That's what electronic wristwatches are, those that Casio has been pumping by the barrel since the the 80s, such as this one.

      If we want to go with "anything with a microprocessor is a computer" then sure, but I think when most people think of a computer they imagine something that can run a web browser, play games with, and use a word processor. It's like saying that my sister's little electric barbie car is an automobile... I mean, sure in the strictest sense it has four wheels and a motor -- but I don't think I'll be using it for the morning commute anytime soon.

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    2. Re:Wristwatch computers? Already have that. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree with Asus... Netbook will die by the hands of wearable computers... but not with a wristwatche monitor... they'll need at least Retinal Display to be interesting... perhaps a partnership between Asus and Microvision...???

    3. Re:Wristwatch computers? Already have that. by GreatBunzinni · · Score: 1

      If we want to go with "anything with a microprocessor is a computer" then sure, but I think when most people think of a computer they imagine something that can run a web browser, play games with, and use a word processor.

      It's like saying that my sister's little electric barbie car is an automobile... I mean, sure in the strictest sense it has four wheels and a motor -- but I don't think I'll be using it for the morning commute anytime soon.

      I don't know about web browsers and word processors but games? We already have that for ages. So the point stands. Moreover, the wrist watch reference was only made due to wrist watches being mentioned specifically by Asus as some sort of "new revolutionary paradigm". If we look beyond wristwatches and also consider other gadgets such as cell phones and mp3 players then the reality of this, which is that we already have it for decades, will become clearer. In fact, I've stopped using a wrist watch since I've replaced it with my first cell phone, which was around a decade ago.

      And regarding the "morning commute" scenario, I'm also very sceptic that people will use those proposed "wearable computers" for that. I mean, people bitch that a netbook is too impractical to type, which is the most basic task that word processing and similar tasks demand. So why would anyone use wrist watches for that if using netbooks for that same task is, somehow, seen as unthinkable?

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  14. Once we get voice recognition, that is by CityZen · · Score: 1

    Obviously, current user interfaces would suck on a watch.

    However, give that puppy *good* voice recognition and speech output, and then they're on to something.

    However, at this point in time, it doesn't seem like we've got the processing & battery density necessary for this to work well. Eventually, though, who knows?

    1. Re:Once we get voice recognition, that is by BobMcD · · Score: 1

      Voice is only of limited use, though. For example, could you imagine 'sexting' via voice recognition? Having to spell out the words not in the built-in dictionary? On a commuter train? Checking your bank balance? Even replying to email?

      No, I think the typical user might find thumbs more comfortable.

      And I do realize that people talk about all sorts of things over cell phones in public. That's not the point. Those are, in the global conscious, telephones. Wearable computers are not.

    2. Re:Once we get voice recognition, that is by pleappleappleap · · Score: 1

      No, I think the typical user might find thumbs more comfortable.

      It depends on where they were planning on putting them...

  15. For everyone who's seen the movie "Predator" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That kind of wearable computer would be pretty cool. Make it a touchscreen, and add in some kind of adjustable/inflatable cushioning between the inner shell and the user's forearm so wearers can adjust for fit and comfort. But don't add the nuke (of course).

  16. No they aren't by Transient0 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    No size of portable computer from wristwatch to 17" notebook will ever be obsolete. Different tasks require different sized screens, and people who do those tasks will always want the most portable device they can do them on. Yes, for some tasks that will mean a wristwatch. But for many others that means a smartphone, or a netbook, or a desktop computer with three 21" monitors.

    Haven't we had this discussion before?

  17. Yes! by KneelBeforeZod · · Score: 1

    Now I can finally calculate how much to tip waitresses on my watch! Oh wait, they invented that two decades ago.

  18. Leela's Wristamacallit or Wrist-lo-jackimater by Xibby · · Score: 2, Informative

    Gives real-time stock market quotes, forecasts the weather, beams distress signals from anywhere in the universe, and tells the time in over thirty-six thousand time zones. (from the back of the action figure box)

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  19. Looks like a melted iPhone by Scott64 · · Score: 0

    I can't see myself ever wearing or wanting something like that.

  20. Pip Boy 3000 by extremescholar · · Score: 1

    You know Fallout 3 and the Pip Boy isn't a bad idea. Imagine a PDA/cell phone on the wrist. I like the idea.

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  21. Certainly by Dunbal · · Score: 1

    The concept is an exciting one. Sci fi has been toying with the idea of "wrist pads" and other wearable sophisticated electronics for decades now. However a fundamental problem remains: the power source. Although some effort is being made in that area too. I just don't want to think about where they're planning on storing the batteries...

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  22. Two Words by kenp2002 · · Score: 1

    PIP Boy

    The reality of wearable computer is context sensitive information. Not comprehensive feature sets.

    You put the following into a wearable PiP Boy computer and they'll sell like mad:

    SMS\Instant Messaging
    Current Fuel Prices at bookmarked gas stations
    RSS Feed (We have ad those on pagers for 3 decades)
    TO DO Lists
    Calendar\PIM
    Digital Rolodex
    Vitals (heart rate, blood sugar, pill timers)
    Integrated cell phone to a head set or in-canal ear piece
    Memory slot for MP3 player
    Grocery Lists
    Bank RSS feeds (think Mint.com for mobiles)
    as well as remote car entry, light timers, etc so as you approach the car or home
    2 USB ports with some storage space
    GPS and Navigation.

    Look at the wrist watch vs pocket watch.
    Look at the cell phone vs the wrist watch.

    I actually foresee a primary cpu until (pehaps shoulder mounted backed against the shoulder blade, see Macross Plus for a report with s similar looking deal) with context sensetive nodes (the main cpu links to various accessories like a watch, shoes, camera, etc.)

    Yeah If I could get get a VATS until to go with that..

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  23. but by KingPin27 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This would make viewing and participating with certain types of "vivid" media a little more challenging to say the least.

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  24. Good article, and IMHO good predictions by MarkWatson · · Score: 1

    I think that the prediction that there needs to be more content before mass market success of tablets is right on.

    At breakfast this morning, one of my non-tech friends was talking about the TED talk on wearable computers where spacial glasses would create virtual keyboards and displays on walls, tables, etc. That is what I would to see available soon :-)

    For now, the Android platform is looking good: easy to develop apps for, mobile devices support voice commands, etc.

  25. maybe some day by Sloppy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    No size of portable computer from wristwatch to 17" notebook will ever be obsolete. Different tasks require different sized screens

    Ever? Science fiction writers say screens will go away, replaced by glasses or contacts or other type of worn HUD which can show things in an arbitrarily wide field of vision. It ain't reality yet, of course, but it doesn't really sound all that far-fetched.

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    1. Re:maybe some day by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 1

      Science fiction writers say screens will go away, replaced by glasses or contacts or other type of worn HUD which can show things in an arbitrarily wide field of vision. It ain't reality yet, of course, but it doesn't really sound all that far-fetched.

      They, also, used to say that the keyboard would go away and we would go to voice input. I am pretty sure that for everyday use, some type of worn HUD would show similar problems to voice input.

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    2. Re:maybe some day by Tarsir · · Score: 1

      Science fiction writers say screens will go away, replaced by glasses or contacts or other type of worn HUD which can show things in an arbitrarily wide field of vision. It ain't reality yet, of course, but it doesn't really sound all that far-fetched.

      Why does so much of the Slashdentia put so much faith in what Science Fiction writers put in their novels? Statements like the above seem quite common to me. You can talk about selection bias all you want, but frankly one is too many. Science Fiction writers are just people with some unknown (possibly near zero) level of domain knowledge who are making stuff up. Why would you put any faith in what they say?

      I'm not sure what you think an arbitrarily wide field of vision means, but it's worth noting that humans don't have one (we have a 180 degree field of vision). So to achieve this your projection device would have to patch in to the system somewhere between where optical nerves connect to your eyes, and your brain. That sounds far-fetched to me, but maybe you disagree. Or maybe you were thinking the HUD would project onto your eyes, thus obscuring your normal vision. Either way, it's an open question whether such a technique is feasible, or even useful, and the imaginings of some Science Fiction writer is far from a persuasive argument that such is the case.

    3. Re:maybe some day by Sloppy · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure what you think an arbitrarily wide field of vision means .. Or maybe you were thinking the HUD would project onto your eyes, thus obscuring your normal vision.

      Yes, that's what I meant. A display that is near your eye (either right on the surface or a couple inches away at most) so that it can easily fill your field of vision. By "arbitrarily wide" I didn't really mean anything beyond "normal" human perception.

      Why does so much of the Slashdentia put so much faith in what Science Fiction writers put in their novels?

      For this tech, not much faith is required. We've been seeing it advance over the last few decades, with even (lame and abortive) attempts to even bring it to the low-end consumer market (e.g. Nintendo Virtualboy) and various ridiculously expensive products that are half-way to working well. You can see this tech coming both in terms of what has been implemented so far, and in terms of demand. It takes more faith to believe it's not coming, than to believe it's coming.

      For it to not come, you've got to think that something better will supercede it and get people to stop working on it before it gets much further. This is where you get into neural interfaces, resizable/unfoldable displays, etc. I'm not calling those pipe dreams, but the real-life progress on these fronts doesn't compare to what has happened with small, wearable displays.

      Either way, it's an open question whether such a technique is .. even useful

      I never would have imagined there would be any market for 17" laptops. I was wrong, and so was everyone else who thought that nobody would ever buy something simultaneously inconveniently-large and inconveniently-small. Are they useful? Intuition says no; market reality says yes. If people are willing to put up with the compromise of huge laptops (and some people are downright happy with them), plenty will jump when HUDs get good/cheap enough.

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  26. ASUS is dumb by Kevin108 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Everybody I know still wants a 9" netbook for $200.

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    1. Re:ASUS is dumb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Your girlfriend wants 9" too but is settling for your 4 incher.

    2. Re:ASUS is dumb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      At $200, I'm not surprised.

    3. Re:ASUS is dumb by maitas · · Score: 1

      Go to Ebay and look for Asus 900A refurbished. Thats it

  27. Dead...? by armyofone · · Score: 3, Funny

    Sorry, but I won't believe it until confirmed by Netcraft.

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  28. obligatory get off my lawn by castironpigeon · · Score: 1

    Back in my day we strapped our TI-82s to our hairy forearms with duct tape and we liked it!

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    1. Re:obligatory get off my lawn by flyingfsck · · Score: 1

      Back in my day, real geeks had slide rules in their pockets...

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    2. Re:obligatory get off my lawn by Voyager529 · · Score: 1

      Young whippersnapper! In my day, we wore an abacus!

  29. Long term, yeah, inevitable -- but gradual. by DdJ · · Score: 1

    In the long run, wearable computing has seemed inevitable to me since about 1994 or 1996.

    What happened in 1994? That's about when I got my first laptop, which got me used to mobile computing. I used it to take notes in lectures. Then in 1996 I bought my first PDA, the Apple Newton MP120.

    And I started to do mobile device software development, and to participate in discussions/forums with other developers. Other developers including Steve Mann. Go look him up, right now. Go ahead, I'll wait.

    So yeah, after about that time period, a future world with ubiquitous wearable computing devices seemed inevitable. Still does. But it's not going to be some instantaneous revolution where everything changes. It's going to be (and in fact already is) gradual. It's going to involve a variety of small gadgets that can interact with other small gadgets, sometimes just in your own "personal area network" (eg. your wristwatch showing the caller ID for the phone that's ringing in your pocket), sometimes over face-to-face distances (vCard exchange during a sales meeting), and sometimes globally (posting Bejeweled scores to a global leaderboard). All of those are happening right now, and more will come.

    To some people this was obvious decades ago. To me it was obvious 16 years ago. To an awful lot of people it was obvious three years ago. I guess it's just becoming obvious to ASUS right now?

    1. Re:Long term, yeah, inevitable -- but gradual. by jedidiah · · Score: 1

      Some of us imagined devices like this DECADES ago. Now how long it will take for human tech to catch up is another matter.

      I don't think Mr. Asus is going to get to see it.

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  30. Until.. by Thyamine · · Score: 1

    Until I can have Cortana on my wrist, I don't see how something that small will be able to interface with a person well. Maybe some super-interface is on the horizon, but at this point it would need to almost have some type of AI to interface with that could do the typing/processing/etc that I'd need.

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  31. Not on my wrist by pmontra · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The last thing I wore around my wrist was (surprise) a clock some 20 years ago. I started having clocks all around me on computer screens at that time so I discovered I had no reason to wear one myself. Then came mobile phones. After all that time I can't stand having something around my wrist anymore. I have a clock for when I go hiking on the mountains but I strap it on the backpack. It's much more comfortable that way. Thinking about this Asus product, it may even sell well but I'd always go for something that can fit in my pocket and that's my mobile phone. I could call it a camera that makes calls and runs programs, or a computer with a phone and a camera but there is a limit to the number of devices we can carry around and recharge at home. No need for another one and no need to wear it.

    1. Re:Not on my wrist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The last thing I wore around my wrist was (surprise) a clock some 20 years ago. I started having clocks all around me on computer screens at that time so I discovered I had no reason to wear one myself. Then came mobile phones. After all that time I can't stand having something around my wrist anymore.
      I have a clock for when I go hiking on the mountains but I strap it on the backpack. It's much more comfortable that way.
      Thinking about this Asus product, it may even sell well but I'd always go for something that can fit in my pocket and that's my mobile phone. I could call it a camera that makes calls and runs programs, or a computer with a phone and a camera but there is a limit to the number of devices we can carry around and recharge at home. No need for another one and no need to wear it.

      The last thing I wore around my wrist was (surprise) a clock some 20 years ago. I started having clocks all around me on computer screens at that time so I discovered I had no reason to wear one myself. Then came mobile phones. After all that time I can't stand having something around my wrist anymore.
      I have a clock for when I go hiking on the mountains but I strap it on the backpack. It's much more comfortable that way.
      Thinking about this Asus product, it may even sell well but I'd always go for something that can fit in my pocket and that's my mobile phone. I could call it a camera that makes calls and runs programs, or a computer with a phone and a camera but there is a limit to the number of devices we can carry around and recharge at home. No need for another one and no need to wear it.

      The last thing I wore around my wrist was (surprise) a clock some 20 years ago. I started having clocks all around me on computer screens at that time so I discovered I had no reason to wear one myself. Then came mobile phones. After all that time I can't stand having something around my wrist anymore.
      I have a clock for when I go hiking on the mountains but I strap it on the backpack. It's much more comfortable that way.
      Thinking about this Asus product, it may even sell well but I'd always go for something that can fit in my pocket and that's my mobile phone. I could call it a camera that makes calls and runs programs, or a computer with a phone and a camera but there is a limit to the number of devices we can carry around and recharge at home. No need for another one and no need to wear it.

      The last thing I wore around my wrist was (surprise) a clock some 20 years ago. I started having clocks all around me on computer screens at that time so I discovered I had no reason to wear one myself. Then came mobile phones. After all that time I can't stand having something around my wrist anymore.
      I have a clock for when I go hiking on the mountains but I strap it on the backpack. It's much more comfortable that way.
      Thinking about this Asus product, it may even sell well but I'd always go for something that can fit in my pocket and that's my mobile phone. I could call it a camera that makes calls and runs programs, or a computer with a phone and a camera but there is a limit to the number of devices we can carry around and recharge at home. No need for another one and no need to wear it.

      The last thing I wore around my wrist was (surprise) a clock some 20 years ago. I started having clocks all around me on computer screens at that time so I discovered I had no reason to wear one myself. Then came mobile phones. After all that time I can't stand having something around my wrist anymore.
      I have a clock for when I go hiking on the mountains but I strap it on the backpack. It's much more comfortable that way.
      Thinking about this Asus product, it may even sell well but I'd always go for something that can fit in my pocket and that's my mobile phone. I could call it a camera that makes calls and runs programs, or a computer with a phone and a camera but there is a l

    2. Re:Not on my wrist by zmollusc · · Score: 1

      Hehe, we are opposite. I _always_ wear my watch. It is good for 200 feet underwater so i don't have to take it off while swimming/washing up/working in dusty grimy environments, it sets itself with radio signals so it is always accurate and it costs £19.99 for a new one if it gets broken.

      I also have many clocks kicking around, but I find it is automatic to glance at my wristwatch and get the actual time rather than look for the clock in the corner of the desktop, on a microwave oven, dvd player, car dashboard or drag my phone out of my pocket and wonder if it is telling the right time (my phone has gps and internet connectivity as well as the digital phone network and yet it still needs me to set its clock for it).

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    3. Re:Not on my wrist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then you've already covered the whole time-keeping device need.
      Some people don't have those things with them while moving around, or want to worry about finding their phone just to see the time, or whatever else the device on the wrist does.
      So your a unique individual.

    4. Re:Not on my wrist by wrencherd · · Score: 1

      A cacophony of reason.

      There, fixed that for you.

    5. Re:Not on my wrist by Culture20 · · Score: 1

      Hehe, we are opposite. I _always_ wear my watch.

      When's the last time you washed your wrist, Lela?

    6. Re:Not on my wrist by zmollusc · · Score: 1

      Same time I fumigated my boots.

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    7. Re:Not on my wrist by CityZen · · Score: 1

      I tried not wearing my watch for a while. I was fine for a few months, until I started making some airline trips. I didn't like being unable to tell the time during various parts of the flights.

      I'm back to wearing my watch again. It's more convenient than pulling my phone out of my pocket, and its battery has regularly lasted more than 10 years each time.

    8. Re:Not on my wrist by robi5 · · Score: 1

      Same here with not using a wristwatch. But if it had some new uses, I'd reconsider. For example, it could monitor your pulse and call ambulance if a sudden cardiac death occurs to you, or it could selectively and unobtrusively project information to you at a meeting, or act as a touchless payment form. Useful computing has continuously come closer to our body, and a wrist computer or a retina-display and a bluetooth headset is closer to us than a phone with a 3" screen in the pocket.

  32. Expains current motherboard blandness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I miss the days when I eagerly awaited the latest Asus motherboard offerings. Sounds like they've lost the will to lead.

    1. Re:Expains current motherboard blandness by cheesybagel · · Score: 1

      From what I understand they spun off the motherboard manufacturing operations. Asus is turning into a shell company.

  33. Goggle/Visors are the future, not watches by EmpireOfLight · · Score: 1

    As I've made perfectly clear in this her sketch 'o mine from 2008: http://fieldii.com/vgcomputing.png :)

  34. Dictation. Right. by HiggsBison · · Score: 3, Funny

    How about dictation...

    Dear Mr. Barnsmithers,
    Thank you for inquiring about our project. That's product you stupid fucking piece of shit. Jesus Christ almighty, don't you understand anything? ...

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    1. Re:Dictation. Right. by dgatwood · · Score: 3, Funny

      Reminds me of this failed Microsoft demo....

      Dear Aunt,

      Let's set so double the killer delete select all.

      Yikes.

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    2. Re:Dictation. Right. by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      Eat up Martha.

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  35. History of computing paradigms by suso · · Score: 5, Interesting

    One thing I've noticed over the many years I've been following the computer industry is that despite what hype marketing departments, CEOs and industry analysts spin, often times new devices don't replace the older devices so much as just augment the array of where you use a computer. So time has shown that you generally don't have to worry about a mass switch to newer technologies. These dates aren't exact, but its generally when they started showing up in the public eye.

    *Mainframe/Server (1940s-infinity): Untouchable by user, but keeps track of info the user can't, makes sharing easier, etc. This will probably never go away as long as there is a need for reliability and massive storage.
    *Workstation/Terminal (1950s-1990s): Let's you do stuff in relation to server/mainframe, but only at work.
    *Desktop personal computer(1977-20??): Let's you try to do stuff at home. Can usually keep up with or exceed most innovations in technology. We will probably always have some sort of stationary access point for computing.
    *Standardized Gaming Consoles (1977-infinity):Makes easier for most people to play games, but have never been realistic for computer-type work. Often goes back and forth between whether computers have better games. And no, this isn't the first time people have said "The end of PC/computer gaming". I think gaming consoles come and go with the cycles of the economy.
    *Laptop (1980s-2020): Allows you do stuff in previous, but some people still prefer a desktop for power, customization, easy of repair
    *PDA/iPhone/Droid (1993-24th century): More convenient than a laptop, but generally only used for organization type stuff, still need laptop or desktop for most things. Actually, if you look at Star Trek, you'll notice that they don't really have a one-device-does-it-all thing either.
    *Tablet PC(1995-death of HP): More convenient than a laptop, but probably not as rugged. Only useful in some situations. Annoying when the touch display stops working. Will probably never catch on.
    *Notebook computer (2007-?): Can put it in your purse and hold it like the bible, but good luck reading a document, doing anything useful. My wife uses hers to play Netflix movies while she uses her fullsize laptop.
    *Wristwatch computer: Makes it a little easier to have fast access all the time to stuff a PDA would do for you. But you still need laptop or desktop.

    So here we are in 2010, and all of these computing access paradigms still exist. None of them have replaced the previous paradigm even close to as much as they claimed they would. The only think I could think might replace the desktop/laptop paradigm is if headset computing comes along and allows you to see a virtual large display and you can think what you want to do and it will happen reliably. But we still have a ways and people will need to get used to that. Some people won't want to mess up their hair and what about when you need to drive, etc.

    1. Re:History of computing paradigms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funny since I use my netbook with a 8" screen for everything...
      Except at work.. .I refuse to use my own hardware at work.

    2. Re:History of computing paradigms by CliffH · · Score: 1

      I've always had a fond place in my heart for this little gem. My dad still has one which I believe he bought at CES way back when. BTW, it's the Data-2000 from 1983. You could program on it and he had a printer for it. Next time he offers it to me I think I'll accept it :)

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    3. Re:History of computing paradigms by suomynonAyletamitlU · · Score: 1

      I've never understood why there are no good examples of extremely short-range terminals in mobile computing. For example, a laptop-sized main computer in your backpack (probably an actual laptop, really) connected via either a cable or high-bandwidth wireless to something that is literally just a display and keyboard (and battery) -- No guts, no heat, no awkward/stupid limitations. If you need a different size terminal, you get a different sized terminal. The computer itself, while it will run on batteries, doesn't necessarily require that the battery fit in the form factor of the rest of the device, so you have significantly more juice.

      A wireless monitor on your wrist makes plenty of sense in that context, as long as you understand that it will only ever be an accessory, not a full-fledged terminal or PDA.

    4. Re:History of computing paradigms by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the history of computing, as above, the terminals are often sporting embedded processing not too different than the supposed "real computer". I remember the aha! moment I had when I realized that the adm31a terminal that served as the console to my CP/M machine had the same type of processor and memory as the CP/M machine. But it just ran the character-cell terminal firmware, instead of CP/M and my word processor. This keeps repeating itself with graphics terminals and our modern LCD "monitors" and HDTV sets which actually have powerful CPUs and GPUs and their own OS which boots when you power it on!

      When you translate that to a mobile setting (on battery power), you're really better off with the integrated devices and software-based reuse rather than having so many instances of the same device classes running with external I/O transcievers, all of which have baseline power consumption even when they seem relatively idle. What might make sense are modular components, e.g. snap the tablet PC out of the keyboard chassis to shed some of the physical bulk while retaining the core platform electronics, power source, etc.

      But in mobile device engineering, these sorts of modular components will seriously impact weight, bulk, and durability as you have to consider the entire conglomerated structure when designing it to handle physical abuse.

    5. Re:History of computing paradigms by Bent+Mind · · Score: 1

      *Notebook computer (2007-?): Can put it in your purse and hold it like the bible, but good luck reading a document, doing anything useful. My wife uses hers to play Netflix movies while she uses her fullsize laptop.

      My Wife disagrees a bit. She likes to read a lot. I tried the full size laptop, it was too bulky. I tried the PDA, the display was too small. The Netbook fit just right with her needs. She uses it for reading (ebooks), email, SIP, movies, and notes. She uses the desktop for document creation as she prefers a full size keyboard.

      As for the Tablet, my brother is the artist type. He uses a tablet computer as a portable sketch book.

      The rest I agree with.

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    6. Re:History of computing paradigms by 2obvious4u · · Score: 1

      Actually, if you look at Star Trek, you'll notice that they don't really have a one-device-does-it-all thing either.

      Actually, they did... The enterprise. Computer make me a coffee. Computer make me a sex slave on holo-deck twelve. The computer was always there for them to interface with vocally at any time and was networked wirelessly with all the little pda devices they had on the ship.

    7. Re:History of computing paradigms by hitmark · · Score: 1

      makes one wonder why microsoft trashed the smart display.

      still, freescale was showing off a 7" tablet that could dock to a keyboard, so it may not be fully dead.

      this is btw a potential dream i see:

      take one device for pocket or wrist, with plenty of storage and enough cpu to handle some infotainment.

      make said device dockable to a larger screen and keyboard combo when at desk or some other flat surface (the screen and keyboard can either be attached to each other or separate, or maybe even both).

      when docked, the device will present a interface more suited to the larger display and inputs.

      the basic problem is that currently data and presentation is joined at the hip, one is not used to disconnecting data from its presentation in such a way that the presentation can be reshaped to fit without modifying the data.

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    8. Re:History of computing paradigms by lennier · · Score: 2, Informative

      '*Notebook computer (2007-?):"

      Nitpick: It's netbook, not notebook. "Notebook" has been the term for "full sized laptop" since the mid 1990s.

      Since I've got a netbook, I've found that I really enjoy it. The size is just right for carrying in a backpack, and it lets me focus and concentrate on work (reading ebooks and writing) that I wouldn't otherwise get done at my desktop due to distractions. So I don't think it will be going away for me anytime soon.

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    9. Re:History of computing paradigms by Capt.DrumkenBum · · Score: 1

      I always found it interesting that Starships have mainframes.

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    10. Re:History of computing paradigms by suso · · Score: 1

      Ok, but they still had those little pda devices, which was my point.

  36. Typists by tepples · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The desktop computer is on its way out for everyone but typists and coders.

    And guess what anyone is who writes e-mail, blog posts, or forum posts: a typist.

    1. Re:Typists by jaclu · · Score: 1

      You only need to go to Japan, there most people only use their phones for email, many dont even have a pc/laptop since they dont see all that much use for one, their phones do a pretty good job att keeping people connected in the email universe.

    2. Re:Typists by ceoyoyo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      That's great if all you do is use your computer as a fancy telephone.

      Look at anyone who uses a computer professionally, whether it's a secretary, coder, CEO or whatever. They've got a desktop or notebook. Sure, if we invent a super battery maybe my notebook will morph into a piece that's like a phone, a wireless keyboard and some big screens, but it's not going to morph into a watch, in isolation. Screens are getting bigger, not smaller.

  37. The way I see it... by Rene+S.+Hollan · · Score: 2, Interesting

    There's no need for a general purpose applications device on one's wrist, except for very specialized applications: phone, text messaging, compass, navigation, perhaps. Maybe calculator. The same sort of "apps" we had on relatively small screened cell phones of a few years ago, like my Moto E815 (damn that thing had a great radio).

    The trouble with this is that it's extremely battery limited. Still, if you want uberportable basics that run for one day, it's O.K.

    A step up is the modern IPhone or Android-powered phone. Belt clip size, with decent battery life (because it can hold a bigger battery). Now, combining the two allows for interesting possibilities: the wristputer now becomes an auxilliary display device: glance at your wrist to see your appointments, or incoming calls, etc. Just swap the SIM card from the wristputer to the cell phone to use the latter's mobile data connection.

    One step up is the single screen ebook. I see this as a handheld, which can function as a phone, or use the bluetooth or wifi connection to the belt-clipped phone, for dialing and call management (in parallel with the cell phone and wrist computer: if I'm reading a book and a call comes in, or I want to make a call, I'd like to do that from the UI on the book I'm reading instread of having to reach for another device (earbud, wristputer, or belt-clipped phone). Of course, it too can take a SIM card, if that's all you want to carry.

    Finally, for more serious reading, in the format of a traditional book, at the expense of size, is the dual-screen ebook, that folds. This one has color screens (instead of just, perhaps, e-ink). It has all the capabilities of the single-screen e-book.

    Each device is optimized for a particular purpose, but can be pressed into service for alternate uses: which devices a user caries depends on their physical activity and the types of computing they expect to be doing. I can very much see the single-screen e-book as a universal remote control, for example.

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    1. Re:The way I see it... by Rene+S.+Hollan · · Score: 1

      I guess it's bad form to followup one's own post (when will /. allow editing if there have been no followups?), but here goes:

      There are only a few basic components to a modern computing platform:

      1. processing and local storage;

      2. network: 3G or WiFi or Bluetooth;

      3. display and audio output;

      4. user input: keyboard and audio;

      5. peripherals: compass, orientation, GPS, light and sound sensors.

      Now, note the following:

      A. After NRE, silicon is cheap, dirt cheap: you can have all the networking, radios, and some storage in each device.

      B. There is no reason that you have to have all the components you're using in the same device.

      The obvious example of (B) is the bluetooth earbud. We've been doing remote network display since the X-server was invented on wired devices -- no reason to not do it on wirelessly connected ones. Heck, I even saw a really cool "instant mobile hotspot" device about the size of a slim cell phone: 3G in, 802.11g out. And, of course, there's the laptop docking station to use a more comfortable screen and keyboard.

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    2. Re:The way I see it... by Quabbe · · Score: 1

      Sorry to laugh, but you wear your mobile phone on your BELT?!? that is soooo mid '90s. Seriously though, in Australia that concept went out the door back in '94/'95. Is that still the done thing where you're from? In the late 90's it was considered pretentious, and by the '00 was associated with the likes of pocket protectors... We wear our phones in our pockets. Pockets are where the futuer's at my friend!

    3. Re:The way I see it... by Rene+S.+Hollan · · Score: 1

      I guess it's nerdish, but not as nerdish as you make it. It is impractical to put a phone as thick as an HTC2 in a front jeans pocket, and in a back pocket, it's just asking for trouble. I do tend to keep it (in it's belt case as well) in a jacket pocket if I'm wearing one.

      Lots of people use earbuds here, as well, particularly since laws were passed most places making non-handsfree cell phone calls while driving illegal. That used to be considered nerdish.

      But, really, I don't give a rat's ass what other's think.

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  38. They are so desperate to shake off the netbook... by zullnero · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ...because they can't make any money on them, that they'd actually bring up the wearable computer thing again. Well, it kinda makes sense. You can charge a whole lot more margin for a wearable computer than you can for a low end, tiny laptop. But I thought we've been over this before. Wearable computers are only for dorks.

  39. small projectors will liberate video screens by peter303 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    A problem with wristwatch and cellphone computers are their relatively tiny screens. A projector could be as small as sugar cube, ring, or pen, yet illuminate a couple square feet of a wall or table top. Some cell phones are already coming out with projectors.

    I saw some neat demos at SIGGRAPH of self-registering projectors. You only have to get them approximately head-on. Tehn they detect the descrepency and warp the projection into the perfect desired rectangle.

    1. Re:small projectors will liberate video screens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd take a wider F.O.V. retina laser display over a projector any day, especially due to the general popularity of glasses. Then we'll have people that look like they're talking to themselves and staring off into space and suddenly emit loud outbursts of profanity when their raid wipes while taking a bus to their mother's.

      A brave, new world.

    2. Re:small projectors will liberate video screens by Thud457 · · Score: 1

      plus, just imagine the cluttered hell the world would become if everybody was trying to use their projector displays on the bus at the same time!!!

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    3. Re:small projectors will liberate video screens by mjwx · · Score: 1

      A projector could be as small as sugar cube, ring, or pen, yet illuminate a couple square feet of a wall or table top

      Not as much as you think. Firstly a projector is too dim to be used in sunlight or under most 60w light bulbs. This makes it hard to do work as there often isn't enough light to see the keyboard, notepads (dead tree) or most other things.

      Secondly think about where people use their laptops. I sure as hell will have problems using a projector on Singapore Airlines cattle class. What if I'm in a group of people (with laptops) and I have no surface to project upon? This scenario is more common then you think. I use my laptop exclusively for travelling, I have a desktop at home and work.

      Projectors in laptops wont liberate us from the screen, we are not oppressed by the screen, the screen is our friend who shows us stuff. We wont have a replacement for the screen until we can create a 2D perfectly opaque hologram in thin air that has a similar power requirement. I predict that projectors in laptops and phones will be fads for a long time, too high power draw, too low brightness.

      I also predict that flexible screens (FOLED) will be the next big thing in reducing laptop size.

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  40. Personally... i think he's a little off-track by pjr.cc · · Score: 1

    As others have pointed out, i think it'll move to the optical. Glasses you wear that have a screen in them... and given where e-ink is going that may not be too far away. Thats not to say the wrist wouldnt be in use, after all if you no longer need a display, a mobile phone could take on a much different (wrist-wrapping) form factor.

    But i also believe one area that mostly goes untouched is proximity type computing. I.e. I sit down at the "computer" at work and im in close enough proximity that the glasses display something related to that. Theres a whole range of things that could be done in the proximity range... for example removing those clumsy lcd/led displays on appliances at home and have a proximity thing in your mobile phone (hey, you carry it with you everywhere anyways). Similar to bluetooth but without all the authentication (though based more on mutual induction then actual radio waves as such), who cares if someone can walk up to your microwave and use it with their own mobile phone. Thats not to say auth wouldnt be required (a-lah work computer would require it), but pairing things is a pain when its just something simple.

    It'd be nice to abstract information from everything into a format that suited myself, rather then the other way around... What I mean is that your microwave could send your phone the parameters it needs to operate it and your phone could display it for you in a way you like. From an informational perspective it would uniquely useful, i.e. stand at a bus stop and get an up-to-date timetable "bus 483 is running 10 minutes behind schedule".. Add a few standards to it all and it would really shape our lives in many ways.

    I do agree with him when he talks about the "dull pc roadmap" (4 to 8 to 16 cores, etc), and i think ARM (heh, theres a pun there somewhere - get an arm on your wrist or something) may in the future have a fair bit to say about it.

    But then again, im longing for the Peter F Hamilton experience... I want my affinity gene (and all this wonderful other ideas in the commonwealth/confederation books)!

  41. Re:eee... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Title: eee...

    FTFY.

  42. Computers are dead by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

    I'm waiting to hear that computers are dead. Just a long-running fad.

  43. "Probably didn't know this?" by dilemmachine · · Score: 0

    I wonder what percentage of slashdot readers *actually* didn't know about wearable computers. Probably less than 20%. The means of taking a gumstix, attaching a bluetooth twiddler, and a kopin eyepiece and looking like one of the Borg is pretty widespread knowledge. Or just mounting a smartphone on your waist and using it with a bluetooth keyboard and an audial interface.

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  44. wristwatch computers... by roc97007 · · Score: 1

    Wristwatch computers... Geeze... Unless they've developed the telepathic interface, I don't see this going any further than the last hundred or so times someone's tried it. Even at high resolution, the screen on a wristwatch is too small for much more than alerts and headlines.

    This illustrates a fundamental misunderstanding of the netbook niche. It's not the computing power. You can build more resources into a phone if you want to pay enough. It's having a large enough screen to get work done in a small enough package to always have with you, with cellphone-grade battery life. It's the ability to research the net without having to squint at a 3" diagonal cell phone screen. It is *not* the ability to play Halo 3 at high res for a half hour until the battery is exhausted. There are other platforms for that. It is *not* having the smallest computer on the block. Smart phones already have that niche. And first and foremost, netbooks are not a high end device.

    Making the netbook larger defeats the portability requirement. Making it more powerful usually defeats the battery life requirement. Making it smaller defeats the readability requirement. But there's no margin in small cheap computers, so the vendors are always looking for some new way to print money. They don't get it, on a fundamental level. Netbooks are a commodity item, and because of the requirements, the niche can not be taken over by a high margin item.

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  45. Grrr.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wearable computers are only for dorks.

    You insensitive clod!

  46. Wristwatch computer - came out in 80's by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I had the predecessor to this watch back in the late 80's when I was in school. I remember being able to change the channel in class of whatever we were watching and no one knew what was going on: http://www.amazon.com/Casio-Remote-Control-Calculator-SI1781/dp/B002VSO95G/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=miscellaneous&qid=1264097807&sr=8-4

  47. Article title should read... by Tobor+the+Eighth+Man · · Score: 1

    Asus Says Stuff You Already Bought Is Dead, Hello Stuff We Want You To Buy Soon.

  48. CEO Socks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, one does want a hint of color...

  49. Digital watches by mattbee · · Score: 3, Funny

    Those are still a pretty neat idea.

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  50. Wearable==head mounted display, data glove input by PeterM+from+Berkeley · · Score: 1

    I'm sorry, but until I can look at a minimum of 1600x1200 resolution display, and give input by hand gestures (data gloves), (and maybe voice), it isn't wearable computing.

    I want to be sitting absolutely anywhere and wiggling my fingers in the data gloves and making gestures, looking at >=1600x1200, with reasonable speed & memory capacity. Or hell, even walking around so I don't get so damn fat.

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  51. Perhaps... but now without VRD by GerardAtJob · · Score: 1

    Perhaps... but now without VRD!
    Imagine a notebook, and throw away the display.
    Now strap it in your winter jacket and put a VRD (Virtual Retinal Display) on.

    Now you have a netbook with a 50x50inch display that can interact with the outside world...
    Ex: Help you repair your car
            A GPS system that show helpful informations directly in your fov
            Help you play virtual battlefield with wooden guns at your favorite parc lol
            etc...etc...etc...

    BUT it won't happen with a wrist display...

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  52. BS by Thaelon · · Score: 1

    The future of portable computing is basically already here.

    Smartphones.

    My iPhone is the first device I'm willing to call a portable computer. It's fast, fairly capable, and can do a ton of things rather well. Phone, GPS, pretty decent email even without a keyboard, games, entertainment, ebooks etc.

    It's already replaced my N810 for ebook reading, my calculator, my existing phone, could, with a little more investment, replace my GPS, and even has a compass in the stock, and this thing which tells time.

    That's where the future is, a highly portable, highly capable puck that goes in your pocket. It won't replace portable computers with qwerty keyboards, at least not for a while yet, but it sure as shit isn't wearable crap. The future is a smooth brick, not a smooth wristband that you're going to smash into doorknobs and shatter.

    One of the most powerful reasons for this is people don't like carrying around a lot of crap, but want a lot out of what they do carry, the more one can do, the more other things it will replace, but everybody wants at least a phone, so the future is smartphones. We've already got the Droid, iPhone, and the Nexus One.

    tl;dr: The future is powerful, versatile, myriad function, smartphone pucks, not wearable devices. The cool thing is, it's mostly already here.

    Now if only my iPhone could also unlock my car, house doors, and interface with credit card readers on demand, and be an acceptable form of government issued ID I wouldn't have to carry anything else in my pockets, but that's perhaps going a bit too far.

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  53. Very easy... by Domini · · Score: 1

    ... with the companying wearable 3D glasses.

    But then again... why have a watch at all? Or would the weight of the glasses be prohibitive?

  54. Dick Tracy by westlake · · Score: 1

    A dupe from Dick Tracy, that is.
    This "wearable computer" crap comes along every 5 years. It's still the epitome of lame, even by slashdot standards.
     

    I think that depends on how you define its purpose:

    SMS Your ECG To ER: Portable Heart Monitor Sends Emergency Alerts And ECG As Text Message

    It isn't difficult to imagine remote medical monitoring and assitive tech becoming the norm for the patient at risk, the chronically ill and elderly.

    There is something to be said for the gadget that doesn't need a pocket or purse, that fades into invisibility.

    In response to a similar story, a poster remarked that a wrist watch is one of the few pieces of jewelry a man can wear without embarrassment.

  55. TI-89 and TI-nspire by tepples · · Score: 1

    Do you: -want to design anything on anything but a desktop?

    Stylus-based PDAs are decent for sketching things while away from your expensive graphics tablet. In fact, some people have even pressed Nintendo DS systems into use as a makeshift Cintiq clone.

    -want to use mathematica on a phone?

    Texas Instruments used to a computer algebra system called Derive. It forms the basis of the CAS in TI-89 and TI-nspire calculators. So yes, a lot of people do use a system that could be compared to a scaled-down Mathematica on a handheld device.

  56. Re:They are so desperate to shake off the netbook. by Nethemas+the+Great · · Score: 1

    Because having a large square shaped bulge in your pocket isn't dorky looking... Besides how many times have you or someone you know dropped that device into the toilet, onto concrete, etc. or accidentally left it somewhere? A wristband makes a lot of sense for a communication device. For instances where you need to have larger display real estate it is entirely conceivable that it could have a built in projector. They're already getting small enough. The over sized, entire front is a display, pocket bricks didn't solve the real-estate problem.

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  57. I had a Casio databank in 1987... by BitZtream · · Score: 1

    It was a wearable computer. Had an address book, calculator, alarms, timers, and whatever else I'm forgetting.

    It was cool as shit for a kid, but it was a rather big pain in the ass to use, and all in all not real useful since the screen was the size of a postage stamp.

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  58. Only go so small... by Chicken04GTO · · Score: 1

    Until it can project the screen onto my eye, and I can interface with it virtually, the smallest a computer can be and still be useful is a good sized screen 10" ? - and a keyboard with reasonably sized keys.

  59. Bracelet by Antiocheian · · Score: 1

    Just tailor a nice leather bracelet and put your mobile phone there. Problem solved.

  60. Re:Wearable==head mounted display, data glove inpu by SharpFang · · Score: 1

    Head-mounted - yes, that's essential.
    There is definitely no need for 1600x1200, netbook's 1024x600 x 2 eyes would be quite sufficient. This is not to replace desktop and home cinema, just to supplement it.
    As for input, fuck voice. Attach two small cameras on the sides, with most image captured in front for augmented reality feature, but add two tiny mirrors to sacrifice a small slice of the CCD for eyeball tracking. Fingers only for "clicking". Voice could be used instead of keyboard but it isn't nearly as essential - I think input interfaces like Dasher in connection with eyeball tracking could be faster and easier to use than voice.

    Oh, and screw heavy helmets. Keep the glasses light and give them a wireless connection to a small brick you can carry in your pocket on on your belt, with decent CPU and battery. And possibly glasses compartment.

    One more viable option in the age of fast wireless: give the glasses a thin client capacity over GSM to your home server. This way you carry only the I/O devices and a really simple (and power-efficient) CPU device.

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  61. As /. showed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bill Gates has been modelling this feature for years.

  62. Vendors: Netbooks "dying, honest" by David+Gerard · · Score: 1

    Cheap netbooks are too limited and no-one will want them any more, say vendors who wish they still made a profit at the mere 103% increase in netbook sales in 2009 over 2008.

    The small, portable computers sold in stupendous numbers in 2009, but industry watchers have been convinced by Microsoft and Intel to say that their popularity is waning. "No-one is buying a 10-inch netbook that costs £500 and runs Windows 7," said Stuart Miles of Pocket Unit. "So everyone will go back to expensive iPhones and full-sized laptops, any day now. This 'internet' thing is just a fad too."

    What people are looking for now, he believes, is a machine that can keep up with the demands of contemporary web users. A small netbook running Windows 7 Dumbass Edition(tm), which runs up to three applications at a time and holds your data hostage until you cough up eighty quid to run a fourth, is "thoroughly inadequate" to the task. "Linux, of course, doesn't exist, wasn't the impetus for cheap netbooks and didn't cripple Microsoft's bottom line for the last three years by providing actual competition for the first time in decades. So it's not like it can do twice as much in half the space."

    Ian Drew, spokesman for chip designer ARM Holdings, also believes netbooks are in for a shake-up. "Apparently, netbooks that weigh nothing, run twice as fast and have an all-day battery but don't run Windows are a problem for ARM, not for Microsoft," he said, lighting a cigar off a fifty-pound note.

    Mr Miles believes tablets will take up the mantle from the netbook. "If we carefully define tablets as 'not netbooks,' even though they're made by the same companies with the same technology running the same software, we can claim the netbook is dead even though people are suddenly realising how stupidly huge, unwieldy and heavy even a fourteen-inch laptop is. It's all about picking your terms rather than, e.g., selling what people actually want instead of what you'd like them to want. Also, if you whack in a 3G modem it's suddenly a phone instead, and never mind the Mini 9."

    "Clap your hands if you don't believe in netbooks," said Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer. "Marketers! Marketers! Marketers! Marketers!"

    Illustration: The 1982 netbook. Go anywhere! Do anything!

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  63. form factor keeps changing - the end is? by Onymous+Coward · · Score: 1

    Local computing power is wearable already in the form of phones. (Which keep getting more powerful.)

    Eventually there'll be convenient video through glasses. You won't need an additional device like a phone.

    Maybe you'll have something like a Bluetooth earbud, or maybe audio will come through glasses arms (transduction or buds).

    Maybe an input device for a while. Or maybe straight to gestures in air or on handy surfaces.

    Ultimately, just glasses. And that vision, if you will, is not far. I give it 10 years.

    Eventually, contact lenses, maybe another 15 years after the above scenario.

    Note that it's all a trend towards being borg.

    All hail the prophet Steve Mann!

  64. Request information for NEW DISPLAY by mangu · · Score: 2, Funny

    Dear Mr. Barnsmithers,
      Thank you for inquiring about our nudist play.

    No, I don't think so. Better ask for the latest display models.

  65. wearable computer is dead, by porky_pig_jr · · Score: 1

    hello implantable computer.

  66. For everyone here who has seen the movie Predator by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    THAT would be a great computer form-factor! And make the screen a touchscreen, and include adjustable padding between the shell and the wearer's forearm so that the computer would fit snugly on most people. Just don't add in the portable nuke. :)

  67. Obligatory Dilbert by Culture20 · · Score: 1

    http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/1998-09-12/
    I hate wearing things on my wrist, which is why I used to have a pocket watch before I got a cell phone. I might wear Dilbert's invention though.

  68. I like that by imerso · · Score: 1

    Actually, I like that, because for things where I need to type fast or a big screen, I use a notebook or desktop. As a programmer and computers fanatic, I like the idea of having one computer always available everywhere, better yet if it does not need a pocket (like my iPhone, for instance). It needs to keep me informed of new emails, allow me to read some news, do some searching, locate me, play mp3, show a small video, etc. No need for fast typing on this type of device. So I am all for it, and will buy one for sure when it becomes available -- well, if it has enough power, of course. =)

  69. marketing material from the guy who apologized by Locutus · · Score: 1

    he is the one who apologized for showing an ARM Linux based device at a big computer show last year and he did so with some likely help and probably poking from Microsoft:

    http://blogs.computerworld.com/microsoft_strikes_back_at_linux_netbook_push

    And what is with that $399 price the article talks about regarding the original netbooks? The price was $249 and it is Microsoft who has been pushing for higher prices and requiring it because of the excess hardware required just to run Windows.

    In other words, it is just a PR pitch from another puppet of Microsoft's. And they pretty much want the netbook dead or declared dead because ARM based devices are about to eat their lunch. Microsoft still has nothing to combat Linux on ARM and Intel is hoping they can hold off the market til they start making x86 based CPUs on single digit processes so the power usage competes with last years ARM chips.

    A whole bunch of big players want netbooks dead and declaring it is helps them because the uninformed will believe it. IMO.

    LoB

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    "Anyone who stands out in the middle of a road looks like roadkill to me." --Linus
  70. spot to plug in AR headset by zero0ne · · Score: 1

    Wristwatches have huge potential.

    just need AR to take off first.

    hell there wouldn't even need to be a wire, you could just use Bluetooth or whatever future short distance wireless transmitting tech there is.

    Watch serving as your computer.
    AR headset over one eye or both.
    voice recognition instead of a keyboard.
    Glove / pen like device for mouse movements / pointing etc.

    The only thing holding anything back right now is the time to integrate all these current and developing technologies into one device (and shrink the size).

    Not to be a MS fanboy, but project Natal is one of many, many steps in the right direction.

  71. Wired by tepples · · Score: 1

    Sci fi has been toying with the idea of "wrist pads" and other wearable sophisticated electronics for decades now. However a fundamental problem remains: the power source. Although some effort is being made in that area too. I just don't want to think about where they're planning on storing the batteries...

    That's why it'll be a Bluetooth watch. The computer is a PDA or smartphone in your pocket; the terminal is on your wrist and needs far less power.

  72. If the netbook is dead it's because of Asus by thetoadwarrior · · Score: 1

    Perhaps they shouldn't be shoving bloated OSes, like Windows onto their netbooks and trying to turn netbooks into laptops. Replacing SSDs and Linux with HDs and Windows was just dumb.

    Hopefully Google won't cock up their Chrome OS and we'll see some decent netbooks back on the market.

  73. Asus and the Death of the Netbook by hedge49 · · Score: 1

    Anybody tried Asus Customer Support lately? Anybody able to FIND Asus Customer Support? Seems 'YOYO' to me. (You're On Your Own)

  74. It will be a phone, glasses w/HUD & finger inp by atrimtab · · Score: 1

    Wearable computers will initially need you to also wear extra batteries. Clothing will change to support the batteries.

    The visual interface will be a HUD like display via glasses that overlay the real world in front of you. Initially, there will be text input based on your finger movement. Subtle body movements like gestures will provide other inputs. There will also be voice recognition commands whose interpretation will occur in the cloud rather than locally in your phone due to power limitations. In fact, many requests will occur in the cloud with the results presented in the HUD or on the screen. When you go from place to place you'll be able to plug your phone into a standard interface to use other peripherals and transfer data.

    Companies providing the technology will get their revenue from ads and charging you for long range wireless access, but WiFi will also be work.

    There will laws against driving while wearing your computer.

    The tech for all this exists right now at about the level of the Apple Newton is compared to the iPhone of today. It's all there. It just needs to be combined, standardized, refined (a lot) and productized. It's coming. The only question is when it will arrive in a viable form.

    The operating system platform is likely to be open source. Android is a likely grandfather of this kind of operating platform.

    Eventually, after better batteries and more efficient processors and memory this may all become a wrist computer with wireless interfaces to HUD and data input devices. But that will take longer.

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    Facebook is billions of individual "Skinner Boxes." And if you use it you are the pigeon!
  75. Computes have not been getting faster - not really by maxm · · Score: 1

    Although we are still somewhat following Moores law, out computers have not become that much faster over the last years.

    They have, however, become smaller and cheaper. So if you extrapolate from that, he is spot on.

    And all we need for really small computers to become really usable is wearable screens. Perhaps even 3D screens.

    The television crowd is currently working on that. When there is enough tv shows on big 3D screens, small 3D eyeglasses will become normal too.

    I mean we will need glasses to watch 3D on 50" screens, so why not skip the 50" screen and just use the glasses only?

    And what would you rather want right now? A faster computer notebook or a wearable one with 3D glasses?

    --
    Max M - IT's Mad Science
  76. Futurama? by Antony-Kyre · · Score: 1

    What about what Leela is wearing?

  77. Got to agree with this by SmallFurryCreature · · Score: 1

    It is becoming very hard to buy a true netbook. And that means an SSD because the last thing you want is a SLOW vulnerable HD with tons of space you are never going to use. Come on, my Acer ZG5 has 16GB SSD plus 2x 16GB SD. That is MORE then enough for several days worth of music and some entertainment. And I can always swap more and I don't have to be afraid to drop it while it is running and hear the HD rattle.

    The netbook is NOT a cheap laptop.

    I can however see a future for the wrist watch computer, if I would ever dare actually wear it. Imagine it being able to be straightened, then, if it is comfortable to wear, you suddenly got a space for a wide screen tablet device, that might even have a fold out flexibele keypad.

    The idea is nice, but I don't think it will work because it will look fucking hideous on anything but a cute girl and also be FAR to vulnerable.

    --

    MMO Quests are like orgasms:

    You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.

  78. Errr.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What if I don't wear a watch?

    If I did though, can I get a Power Rangers one?

  79. IO devices by gmuslera · · Score: 1

    The wii have all kind of "joysticks", some generic, other that fits better in one or another kind of games, but the computer is still a box hidden somewhere. Wearable computing should go after that idea. The main box in your backpack/pocket/necklace/whatever, and wireless (bluetooth or other tech) "pluggable" IO devices, that can show information and/oir receive input. So you can have a wristwatch touchscreen, display glasses, smart clothes. "Sixth Sense" wearable devices or even plain keyboard/monitors if you want.

    Anyway, for that will take more than 5 years to get to an usable and widely available implementation.

  80. Asus dead? by generalSocial · · Score: 1

    My barely used ASUS 901 is dead. It's not netbooks, its ASUS that's the dead one.

  81. env3 by TM22721 · · Score: 0

    Eyeglass semitransparent displays are already available and attach the env3 cellphone on your wrist with velcro problem solved