Get all your co-workers together and join a union, scehdule collective bargaining and make some realistic demands.
Making pleas on a personal level will get you no-bloody-where. (most) Companies and CEOs only understand force, and as a union you guys will have rights that you dont have as individual employees. Dont let these bastards get away with screwing you to line their pockets.
Get all your co-workers together and join a union, scehdule collective bargaining and make some demands.
Making pleas on a personal level will get you no-bloody-where. (most) Companies and CEOs only understand force, and as a union you guys will have rights that you dont have as individual employees. Dont let these bastards get away with screwing you to line their pockets.
tsktsk, still going for below the belt personal shots instead of staying on topic. Everyone else who has disagreed with my (ill admit) selfish opinions, has at least managed to do so.
Now, because this topic had to do with anime and not me defending myself from rude and mistaken personal comments from someone who has never even met me, I wont bother wasting anyone's time (including my own) with any further off-topic rebuttles to Mr."sprites good! polygons bad!" (jesus christ, kid, go outside and get some fresh air). Ronfar, you seem to be quite familiar with my page, why not look for my email address on it and send your comments to me directly.
Moron speaks two languages fluently and is an honors level student. Moron is a pretty bright guy. Moron plays with computers in his spare time and doesnt worship them (no offense to those of you who do, its just not a high priority for me). Moron has better things to do with his time than sit infront of his computer for hours upon hours forgetting that there is a real world out there in which we were actually MEANT to live in. Moron finds his computer is far better used to write essays and complete assignments than provide him with a social life.
Moron knows very well what "root" is.
Moron also would like to remind "ronfar" that/., linux, and many other things that nerds could once call only theirs hold interest for others aswell now. Moron was unaware of any set criteria for a slashdot poster. Posting, yes, poster, no (if only nerds and people who agree with the majority of/. popular opinion are allowed to post here, moron won't let the door hit him on the way out). Moron visited ronfar's page but ronfar is too far gone in nerdiness to hold Moron's attention for very long (i guess that's why ronfar refers to Moron as semi-intellegent.. perhaps Moron isnt a boring enough person for ronfar). Moron would also like to point out to ronfar that Ranma 1/2 is a children's show! Children's shows are for children and otak... uhhmm.. forget it.:)
1) Filter out Anime 2) Start CONTRIBUTING stories that you like 3) Stop reading slashdot altogether 4) Start your own site, like the kuro5hin guys did (which was a cool site, so sad to see it go down) 5) Continue reading slashdot "as is" and quietly mumble "grrrrr...." under my breath when i see otaku anime news being posted.
The internet is full of options and choices, but the ultimate choice is that of your own, to make the choice to choose. Choose wisely.
You sound like Yoda.. Add ", young Jedi." to the end of that sentence next time.
Your gross generalization of all anime that you don't like -- shows that aren't artsy enough for you -- as being only for obsessed, drooling morons is amazingly offensive. Furthermore, your associated generalization that all people who like such shows are also obsessed, drooling morons is doubly offensive
I dont remember saying he was drooling, but now that you mention he might have been. I dont think that everyone who watches it is dumb and drooling though.. But a person who is a fan of that kind of anime wouldnt be on my "lets make freinds!" list... I dont understand why so many intellegent people find such obviously lame anime so entertaining. I seriously dont!
There's a reason why Japanese find otaku disturbing -- they're not well in the head, especially by Japanese societal definitions.
You got that right.
I'm glad your high-and-mighty sense of discriminating taste is shared by all of Slashdot's readers.
Left myself waaaaaayy open there, didnt i.
"(BTW, what's wrong with kids stuff anyway? Just because it's for kids doesn't automatically mean that it sucks. You seem to be lacking in a sense of humor.)
I have a sense of humor! I just dont think children's shows are funny. Pokemon, Digimon and other children's shows dont do it for me. Otaku seem to love them though. And there are a couple anime flicks out there that were intended for children that i really enjoyed. tonari no totoro was one. there have been a couple others, but their titles escape me now.
I think if you read my earlier post, you'd see i have a bit of a high disliking towards "losers", probably insinuating that i am not one. Im not even living in Japan right now anyway and wasnt trying to show the fact that i had off. As well, i had the balls to not post anonymously, opening myself up to some serious flames and critism (critism being the only one i welcome!). Correcting your japanese, however, is showing off: ore mo nihon DE sunderu yo.
Series like "Tenchi Muyou" and "Ah! Megami-sama" are by far a cut above American direct-to-video stuff such as Disney's Aladdin sequels.
Not really. The quality of the animation itself may be superior in the above mentioned anime, but the plots and characters are equally boring and predictable.
The manga and anime businesses are quite large
I wasn't making comments about manga. Manga is far more socially acceptable in Japan than otaku anime. FAR more. Besides, most of the anime series that are spawned from manga do a great job of mutilating the original characters and plot anyway. Several of my favorite manga were later turned into shows and completely ruined. Im sure i'll find another forum to rant about that at a later time though.
I should have been a little more specific in the last comment i made. I didnt want to have to sift through the announcements of crap anime on/. in order to hear about the good ones. Crap anime annoucements about crap anime at crap anime based news sites is not an option, theres just too much crap for one to wade through. i thought the/. crew could perhaps differentiate between "good" anime and "bad monotonous otaku crap" anime: thus my rant.
I also grow tired of the "get on with your life" thing.. as though somehow my life revolves around something as lame as this. Too cliche. its crap.
for western otaku/japanese otaku: "direct to video" != "sucks on toast"
for everyone else (in Japan and the western world): "direct to video" (almost always) == "sucks on toast"
Tenchi, Oh My Goddess, Bubblegum == "sucks on toast"
Go watch more anime. You'll clearly see that all the otaku crap is basicly the same. There isnt anything noteworthy about it. Its the other stuff that makes you think and really catches your eye that is worth watching.
The rental market (for anime) is really big (for otaku) in Japan.
Dont be mistaken and think that every Tarou and Tomoko in Japan watches that crap. Its very much geared towards the large otaku population.
Anime is good. Its fun to watch and it can be very interesting if the quality is good.
Lets take a look at a Japanese word that turns up frequently when Anime is discussed: "otaku". From what I have been able to gather from most Japanese people i know, "otaku" means someone who is "addicted" to something. You could be a computer "otaku".. a game "otaku".. i jokingly even refer to my girlfreind as being a fashion "otaku". I would definately classify myself as being an "otaku" of the computer variety.. Computers: I know a fair amount about them, i enjoy goofing around on them, and Im the guy my freinds call when their theirs just refuses to boot up. When the term is used this way, it appears to be harmless... i could be wrong, im not a sociologist. There is another term I have asked many of my Japanese freinds about: "Anime otaku". Everyone Japanese I know all seemed to make the same odd face and say "kimochi warui~~!" or in English, "ewwwwww.. gross!" when i enquired. Hmmmm..
Im sure i, or anyone else could write volumes about these Japanese "misfits" (Ive seen Jon Katz write: please Jon, go to Japan and witness them for yourself.. good luck!). I have been aquainted with about half a dozen. All seemed to match the Japanese equivalent of a western "nerd". There was one striking distinction though: The japanese anime "otaku"'s lives' REVOLVED around anime. I witnessed one anime "otaku" copying down on a peice of paper the lyrics to every anime intro song he could find. I told him he could probably find lyrics to all the songs he was looking for on the internet, but he replied (almost furious that i could be SO unaware of his goal), "I want to do it MYSELF!!!!" Hours and hours sitting in fromt of his television copying down lyrics... and why? I was still clueless. I asked my freinds about this. They all chuckled, nodded, and told me, "Yup, Thats an Otaku alright! Dont try to understand them. Just avoid them.. theyre too weird and gross." "Anime Otaku" apparently arent not normal, and arent accepted into the mainstream of society. I dont care why.
From what i can gather, otaku anime usually starts out as manga (japanese comic book), becomes popular, then gets turned into a TV series and/or movie(s). The majority of "otaku" anime, IMO (and a large part of my Japanese freinds' aswell), is garbage. The characters are almost always the same.. The plot lines hardly differ, and all are equally boring. The only upside would appear to be that they quality of the animation itself is good.. but so what.. non-otaku anime has incredible anime aswell. Most of the Anime I've seen posted on/. lately has DEFINATELY fit into this "otaku" classification.
Im not a big anime freak. I like a lot of Anime out there, but Tank Police just doesnt do it for me. Neither does crap like Ranma 1/2, Fushigi yuugi, Macross II, etc etc.. It was all produced either for young kids, or for "okatu". Taco, Hemos et al. please stop posting updates about this horrid Anime. Works like Miyazaki's mononoke hime DO NOT fit in with Tank Police. They are intended for the people other than just "otaku". They are clearly not the same genre. I doubt many/. readers are interested in Anime at all anyway! There are several Anime news sites out there which are able to provide all the western "otaku" with news about whats happening in the anime world anyway..
The only Anime I want to hear about is stuff that isnt your run of the mill, "otaku" shit. Its obvious that the people running/. have been unable to determine which is which yet. The majority of the rest of the/. reader population doesnt want to hear about it either.
Just do us a favor and find a way in which we dont have to hear about Anime through./. Thanks.
I dont think it was intended for children. (well, not western children anyway) I doubt isney will be targetting it for young kids. However, if they do, they need to get their heads examined.
THANK GOD theyre changing their minds. I dont think i could hack watching that show in dubbed english.
Being a "japanese-speaker", its horrid to see anime flicks in their native japanese, then see them mutilated by GOD AWFUL dubbing actors and completely inacurate translations. It always seems to be the case that subtitles are are more acturately translated.. plus you those of you who cant understand japanese can at least hear intonation and expression that is lost in the dubbing, but still catch everything thats going on by reading the subtitles.
Miyazaki is a legend in Japan. Im glad he wont be smeared here by whatever "piss-poor" dubbing job is done to his films. Some of the more inferior anime out there: who cares if it gets translated/dubbed poorly. It deserves it. But most of Miyazaki's work on the other hand.... man, great stuff! Akira had probably one of the best dubbing jobs ive ever seen.. And it was done NO justice compared to watching it in it's native japanese. BLARG!!! DEATH TO DUBBING. LONG LIVE SUBTITLES. MIYAZAKI IS KING.
Well, after listening to you guys for 30 minutes or so, I totally realized why the show it isn't called "Cool Guys in Space." Regardless, you guys are cool.:p I, myself, being a geek (I'm actually an in the closet geek: my freinds to this day still wonder why I can type so quickly and why my computer is always better than their parent's brand new one) find comfort in knowing that while I am alone socially in my love for computers, I'm totally not alone in general for my love for computers, the internet and open source.
Thanks guys, keep up the good work and dont let the people who bitch all the time get you down.:)
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I've got the cure!
It's called a condom and not screwing nasty hoes!
Ive got a cure: Humping you in the face.
Skilled, educated workers make more than minimum wage, and for good reason.
Perhaps people need to lobby government in order to make laws that prevent their jobs from being shipped away.
Coalminers were working Joes who needed protection from their rich asshole employers in order to make ends meet and have a life at the same time.
Sounds exactly like this poor guy at EA.
Get all your co-workers together and join a union, scehdule collective bargaining and make some realistic demands.
Making pleas on a personal level will get you no-bloody-where. (most) Companies and CEOs only understand force, and as a union you guys will have rights that you dont have as individual employees. Dont let these bastards get away with screwing you to line their pockets.
oh christ! I need some sleep. forget this post.
my apologies.
Get all your co-workers together and join a union, scehdule collective bargaining and make some demands.
Making pleas on a personal level will get you no-bloody-where. (most) Companies and CEOs only understand force, and as a union you guys will have rights that you dont have as individual employees. Dont let these bastards get away with screwing you to line their pockets.
The blockbuster i shop at has quitea few kurosawa flicks.
tsktsk, still going for below the belt personal shots instead of staying on topic. Everyone else who has disagreed with my (ill admit) selfish opinions, has at least managed to do so.
Now, because this topic had to do with anime and not me defending myself from rude and mistaken personal comments from someone who has never even met me, I wont bother wasting anyone's time (including my own) with any further off-topic rebuttles to Mr."sprites good! polygons bad!" (jesus christ, kid, go outside and get some fresh air). Ronfar, you seem to be quite familiar with my page, why not look for my email address on it and send your comments to me directly.
drooling? no.
troll? hmm.. no...
annoyed with otaku anime and the majority of people who watch it? yes.
Moron speaks two languages fluently and is an honors level student. Moron is a pretty bright guy. Moron plays with computers in his spare time and doesnt worship them (no offense to those of you who do, its just not a high priority for me). Moron has better things to do with his time than sit infront of his computer for hours upon hours forgetting that there is a real world out there in which we were actually MEANT to live in. Moron finds his computer is far better used to write essays and complete assignments than provide him with a social life.
/., linux, and many other things that nerds could once call only theirs hold interest for others aswell now. Moron was unaware of any set criteria for a slashdot poster. Posting, yes, poster, no (if only nerds and people who agree with the majority of /. popular opinion are allowed to post here, moron won't let the door hit him on the way out). Moron visited ronfar's page but ronfar is too far gone in nerdiness to hold Moron's attention for very long (i guess that's why ronfar refers to Moron as semi-intellegent.. perhaps Moron isnt a boring enough person for ronfar). Moron would also like to point out to ronfar that Ranma 1/2 is a children's show! Children's shows are for children and otak... uhhmm.. forget it. :)
Moron knows very well what "root" is.
Moron also would like to remind "ronfar" that
1) Filter out Anime
2) Start CONTRIBUTING stories that you like
3) Stop reading slashdot altogether
4) Start your own site, like the kuro5hin guys did (which was a cool site, so sad to see it go down) 5) Continue reading slashdot "as is" and quietly mumble "grrrrr...." under my breath when i see otaku anime news being posted.
The internet is full of options and choices, but the ultimate choice is that of your own, to make the choice to choose. Choose wisely.
You sound like Yoda.. Add ", young Jedi." to the end of that sentence next time.
I think youll find you are mistaken. Congress is very receptive to Christian views. You sick anime freaks will get your dues
Good thing im canadian!
Your gross generalization of all anime that you don't like -- shows that aren't artsy enough for you -- as being only for obsessed, drooling morons is amazingly offensive. Furthermore, your associated generalization that all people who like such shows are also obsessed, drooling morons is doubly offensive
I dont remember saying he was drooling, but now that you mention he might have been. I dont think that everyone who watches it is dumb and drooling though.. But a person who is a fan of that kind of anime wouldnt be on my "lets make freinds!" list... I dont understand why so many intellegent people find such obviously lame anime so entertaining. I seriously dont!
There's a reason why Japanese find otaku disturbing -- they're not well in the head, especially by Japanese societal definitions.
You got that right.
I'm glad your high-and-mighty sense of discriminating taste is shared by all of Slashdot's readers.
Left myself waaaaaayy open there, didnt i.
"(BTW, what's wrong with kids stuff anyway? Just because it's for kids doesn't automatically mean that it sucks. You seem to be lacking in a sense of humor.)
I have a sense of humor! I just dont think children's shows are funny. Pokemon, Digimon and other children's shows dont do it for me. Otaku seem to love them though. And there are a couple anime flicks out there that were intended for children that i really enjoyed. tonari no totoro was one. there have been a couple others, but their titles escape me now.
(ore mo nihon ni sunde iru yo)
"I live in Japan too."
I think if you read my earlier post, you'd see i have a bit of a high disliking towards "losers", probably insinuating that i am not one. Im not even living in Japan right now anyway and wasnt trying to show the fact that i had off. As well, i had the balls to not post anonymously, opening myself up to some serious flames and critism (critism being the only one i welcome!). Correcting your japanese, however, is showing off:
ore mo nihon DE sunderu yo.
Series like "Tenchi Muyou" and "Ah! Megami-sama" are by far a cut above American direct-to-video stuff such as Disney's Aladdin sequels.
Not really. The quality of the animation itself may be superior in the above mentioned anime, but the plots and characters are equally boring and predictable.
The manga and anime businesses are quite large
I wasn't making comments about manga. Manga is far more socially acceptable in Japan than otaku anime. FAR more. Besides, most of the anime series that are spawned from manga do a great job of mutilating the original characters and plot anyway. Several of my favorite manga were later turned into shows and completely ruined. Im sure i'll find another forum to rant about that at a later time though.
The Anime industry is huge, and yes, of course, not everyone who watches them are "fIf^fN" ("½"ÍñÜèZgíÈËA'îݽũç). There are always exceptions. A lot of the shows that are released here to our audiences are children's shows. One main reason for anime's huge japanese popularity is from the children who watch it... not otaku.
Besides, would you prefer their live-action sci-fi shows? Blech.
hahahaha, id rather have teeth pulled than watch those! ^_^V
I should have been a little more specific in the last comment i made. I didnt want to have to sift through the announcements of crap anime on /. in order to hear about the good ones. Crap anime annoucements about crap anime at crap anime based news sites is not an option, theres just too much crap for one to wade through. i thought the /. crew could perhaps differentiate between "good" anime and "bad monotonous otaku crap" anime: thus my rant.
I also grow tired of the "get on with your life" thing.. as though somehow my life revolves around something as lame as this. Too cliche. its crap.
for western otaku/japanese otaku: "direct to video" != "sucks on toast"
for everyone else (in Japan and the western world): "direct to video" (almost always) == "sucks on toast"
Tenchi, Oh My Goddess, Bubblegum == "sucks on toast"
Go watch more anime. You'll clearly see that all the otaku crap is basicly the same. There isnt anything noteworthy about it. Its the other stuff that makes you think and really catches your eye that is worth watching.
The rental market (for anime) is really big (for otaku) in Japan.
Dont be mistaken and think that every Tarou and Tomoko in Japan watches that crap. Its very much geared towards the large otaku population.
an otherwise god-fearing website like Slashdot promoting it
/. fears God? shhhheeeeeeeshhhh! *tsktsk*
I get the urge to write to my congressman
Freedom of speech prevents nazis from getting their way, pal, your congressman won't (can't) do anything about it.
Anime is good. Its fun to watch and it can be very interesting if the quality is good.
/. lately has DEFINATELY fit into this "otaku" classification.
/. readers are interested in Anime at all anyway! There are several Anime news sites out there which are able to provide all the western "otaku" with news about whats happening in the anime world anyway..
/. have been unable to determine which is which yet. The majority of the rest of the /. reader population doesnt want to hear about it either.
./. Thanks.
Lets take a look at a Japanese word that turns up frequently when Anime is discussed: "otaku". From what I have been able to gather from most Japanese people i know, "otaku" means someone who is "addicted" to something. You could be a computer "otaku".. a game "otaku".. i jokingly even refer to my girlfreind as being a fashion "otaku". I would definately classify myself as being an "otaku" of the computer variety.. Computers: I know a fair amount about them, i enjoy goofing around on them, and Im the guy my freinds call when their theirs just refuses to boot up. When the term is used this way, it appears to be harmless... i could be wrong, im not a sociologist. There is another term I have asked many of my Japanese freinds about: "Anime otaku". Everyone Japanese I know all seemed to make the same odd face and say "kimochi warui~~!" or in English, "ewwwwww.. gross!" when i enquired. Hmmmm..
Im sure i, or anyone else could write volumes about these Japanese "misfits" (Ive seen Jon Katz write: please Jon, go to Japan and witness them for yourself.. good luck!). I have been aquainted with about half a dozen. All seemed to match the Japanese equivalent of a western "nerd". There was one striking distinction though: The japanese anime "otaku"'s lives' REVOLVED around anime. I witnessed one anime "otaku" copying down on a peice of paper the lyrics to every anime intro song he could find. I told him he could probably find lyrics to all the songs he was looking for on the internet, but he replied (almost furious that i could be SO unaware of his goal), "I want to do it MYSELF!!!!" Hours and hours sitting in fromt of his television copying down lyrics... and why? I was still clueless. I asked my freinds about this. They all chuckled, nodded, and told me, "Yup, Thats an Otaku alright! Dont try to understand them. Just avoid them.. theyre too weird and gross." "Anime Otaku" apparently arent not normal, and arent accepted into the mainstream of society. I dont care why.
From what i can gather, otaku anime usually starts out as manga (japanese comic book), becomes popular, then gets turned into a TV series and/or movie(s). The majority of "otaku" anime, IMO (and a large part of my Japanese freinds' aswell), is garbage. The characters are almost always the same.. The plot lines hardly differ, and all are equally boring. The only upside would appear to be that they quality of the animation itself is good.. but so what.. non-otaku anime has incredible anime aswell. Most of the Anime I've seen posted on
Im not a big anime freak. I like a lot of Anime out there, but Tank Police just doesnt do it for me. Neither does crap like Ranma 1/2, Fushigi yuugi, Macross II, etc etc.. It was all produced either for young kids, or for "okatu". Taco, Hemos et al. please stop posting updates about this horrid Anime. Works like Miyazaki's mononoke hime DO NOT fit in with Tank Police. They are intended for the people other than just "otaku". They are clearly not the same genre. I doubt many
The only Anime I want to hear about is stuff that isnt your run of the mill, "otaku" shit. Its obvious that the people running
Just do us a favor and find a way in which we dont have to hear about Anime through
whats japscat? And "gooks" were vietnamese; I'm Canadian.
PS: I made a boo-boo, its actually mononokehime.
I dont think it was intended for children. (well, not western children anyway) I doubt isney will be targetting it for young kids. However, if they do, they need to get their heads examined.
THANK GOD theyre changing their minds. I dont think i could hack watching that show in dubbed english.
Being a "japanese-speaker", its horrid to see anime flicks in their native japanese, then see them mutilated by GOD AWFUL dubbing actors and completely inacurate translations. It always seems to be the case that subtitles are are more acturately translated.. plus you those of you who cant understand japanese can at least hear intonation and expression that is lost in the dubbing, but still catch everything thats going on by reading the subtitles.
Miyazaki is a legend in Japan. Im glad he wont be smeared here by whatever "piss-poor" dubbing job is done to his films. Some of the more inferior anime out there: who cares if it gets translated/dubbed poorly. It deserves it. But most of Miyazaki's work on the other hand.... man, great stuff! Akira had probably one of the best dubbing jobs ive ever seen.. And it was done NO justice compared to watching it in it's native japanese. BLARG!!! DEATH TO DUBBING. LONG LIVE SUBTITLES. MIYAZAKI IS KING.
Well, after listening to you guys for 30 minutes or so, I totally realized why the show it isn't called "Cool Guys in Space." Regardless, you guys are cool. :p
:)
I, myself, being a geek (I'm actually an in the closet geek: my freinds to this day still wonder why I can type so quickly and why my computer is always better than their parent's brand new one) find comfort in knowing that while I am alone socially in my love for computers, I'm totally not alone in general for my love for computers, the internet and open source.
Thanks guys, keep up the good work and dont let the people who bitch all the time get you down.
You dont like the hamsters? Dance the night away, baby!
YEAH!