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Ubisoft DRM Problems Remain Unsolved

ocean_soul writes "More than three weeks after the release of The Settlers 7, with the controversial 'always on-line' DRM, a lot of people still can't connect to Ubisoft's DRM servers. The forum threads where people can post if they are unable to connect keep growing daily. One reason for the lack of fixes or responses from support seems to be that the people responsible were on vacation during the Easter holiday, despite the promise of 24/7 monitoring of the servers. The moral of this story seems to be that it is a bad idea to buy a game just before a major holiday." Or perhaps that it's wise to avoid games with such DRM altogether. So far, Ubisoft hasn't shown any sign that they're reconsidering the requirement of a constant connection. They've recently said it's "vital" to the success of their games and promised that their DRM would "evolve and improve" over time.

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  1. They don't care about the problems today. by node+3 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's clear they don't really care about addressing the problems people are having today. They have already accepted that there will be issues, and they just plan to react and evolve the DRM, but to never remove it. They're in it for the long haul, and if a few eggs get smashed along the way, they're quite fine with that.

    1. Re:They don't care about the problems today. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      This is because idiots keep buying them. People need to stop buying their PC games, and if they REALLY want to send a message, put their piracy statistics through the roof. Download the game 4 or 5 times. If Ubisoft ever removes the DRM from the game, then show them it's appreciated by buying a copy, and putting a nice spike in their sales graph. All the people at the top ever see are graphs and fancy numbers. Show them it doesn't work through those.

      This is what happened with Spore, and EA has since realised that they can't treat customers that way anymore. They are now removing DRM from their games shortly after launch.

    2. Re:They don't care about the problems today. by girlintraining · · Score: 5, Insightful

      and if a few eggs get smashed along the way, they're quite fine with that.

      Will their shareholders feel the same way when Ubisoft titles have the reputation of being flaky, hard to play, and prone to technical malfunction?

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    3. Re:They don't care about the problems today. by LoneBoco · · Score: 5, Informative

      That's fine and all, but Ubisoft is a French company.

    4. Re:They don't care about the problems today. by rockNme2349 · · Score: 5, Funny

      This DRM was designed, developed and produced by a multicultural team of various religious faiths and beliefs.

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    5. Re:They don't care about the problems today. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      *works in aerospace as a CAD/CAM draftsman; can answer authoritatively.

      BOEING uses Dassault Systemes Catia V5 R19, as of the time of this posting.

      It has been cracked and released on Pirate Bay as of R19 service pack 4.

      The crack in question exploits the server based authentication DLL, by replacing it with one that automagically returns "authenticated" for whatever license the local client is requesting. (thus, no authentication server is needed at all.)

      The name of the hacked file is called JS0GROUP.DLL

      A pirate installation of this sort provides the user with over 1 million dollars worth of CAD/CAM power, in equivalent licensing fees.

      (Catia is a modular "I can do just about anything, DAMNIT!" CAD/CAM/PLM package. It has workbenches for doing everything from sheetmetal design, to rapid prototyping, to designing skyscrapers, to designing and diagnosing plumbing/pipe routing, planning infrastructure and space requirements for industrial robots, and even electronics engineering. The pirate dll activates "ALL" workbenches.)

      Long story short: The DRM (Licensing server with expensive licenses required.) has been broken, and has been broken for quite some time.

    6. Re:They don't care about the problems today. by laughingcoyote · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I don't think this has anything to do with theft. Ironically, if you were to steal a copy of the game (walk into a store, put it up your shirt, walk out), you'd still have the DRM, and as far as Ubisoft's servers are concerned, your copy will be entirely "legitimate".

      I think, however, that this topic is largely about copying. I'm not sure how any DRM system could impact actual theft, and I don't see anything in this one that even attempts to address it.

      Now, of course, you weren't trying to disingenuously equate copyright infringement with theft, were you? They're not the same thing. Copying something cannot by definition be theft. It can still be illegal, just like murder, rape, and extortion are illegal. But copyright infringement is not equivalent to any of those things either, and to use one of those terms instead of the proper ones because it sounds "more serious" is misunderstanding what theft is at best and deliberately dishonest at worst.

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    7. Re:They don't care about the problems today. by RubberChainsaw · · Score: 5, Funny

      That explains why their games only work 4 days out of the week...

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  2. $60 per month by tepples · · Score: 5, Interesting

    They've recently said it's "vital" to the success of their games and promised that their DRM would "evolve and improve" over time.

    Improving the DRM won't improve the game itself. A game would have to be pretty damn good to make me pay AT&T $60 per month for the ability to play it on a laptop. I've bought exactly one game published by Ubisoft (Lumines for PSP, a franchise that Ubi has since lost to Disney), and if anyone working at Ubi is reading, I'm not buying any more until your company starts considering laptops without mobile broadband.

  3. How is Assassin's Creed 2 selling? by Spatial · · Score: 5, Interesting

    If piracy is as widespread as they say, and if pirated copies really detract so heavily from sales, then the sales of this game should be abnormally large. Are they?

    I realise that's hard/impossible to measure, but it warrants some discussion.

  4. It's vital, huh? by InsertWitticismHere · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Fuck 'em, then...

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  5. The Moral of the story is... by deadmongrel · · Score: 5, Insightful

    DRM only punishes people who actually pay money to buy.

  6. No more dealing with Ubisoft for me by times05 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I just had a great experience with Ubisoft DRM a few weeks ago. I decided to replay Farcry 2, which I really didn't play that much when I bought it a year or so ago. I'm military, I move a lot, can't find the stupid booklet with CD key, so being a legitimate customer who BOUGHT the damned game I go on their site and ask for help. Game apparently needs a CD key that activates itself online and requires registration and account creation (which I did create, and logged in with that account...). Their reply summed up is "Send us 5$ + S&H and we'll send you a new CD key. Check/cash/money order will do". My reply was taking 5 minutes to find a 24k cracked .exe file that allowed me to skip through all their BS. That was the last game I buy from Ubisoft. This new DRM scheme is even worse. For me for example, I deploy, I don't have internet everywhere. Which means I can't play an uncracked version of Settlers 7. I've never even played Settlers, I don't know what it is, nor will I ever get exposed to it because I know of their retarded DRM schemes. I imagine that this will turn away a lot of other paying customers from Ubisoft franchises. PS: Farcry 2 sucks, no wonder I played it for an hour when I bought it a year ago.

  7. Re:IANAL, but... by sjames · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Don't file a class action, take them to small claims court. If they can't be bothered to show up, they can just accept the default judgment for the plaintiff. If they do show up, it'll cost them much more than the proper refund would.

    All you'll get for a class action is a rich lawyer and a coupon for a glorious $5 off of another non-working game. If a class action suit does get going, opt out and go to small claims anyway.

  8. Re:eff them by Rockoon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Steam actually adds value (download to any PC anywhere, never need a CD, etc) in compensation for the loss of certain freedoms associated with their DRM system (no resale, etc.)

    Nobody elses DRM is adding value.

    An example of the value its given me: I purchased Left 4 Dead from Walmart a year or so ago I guess, but when I opened the product, the CD was broken. "Aww crap!" .. This stuff happens.. but wait.. its a steam game! No need to go back to the store! Launch steam, enter the product key, latest version downloads with all patches applied, and off I went killing zombies....

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  9. Just use the "fake" server.. it's more reliable by tick-tock-atona · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Predictably, if you bought the game you might be better off with this torrent:

    1 - Unrar offline server folder on desktop;
    2 - Edit your "hosts" file in "C:windowssystem32driversetc" by opening it with notepad and adding the folowing lines, then save:

    127.0.0.1 static3.cdn.ubi.com
    127.0.0.1 ubisoft-orbit.s3.amazonaws.com
    127.0.0.1 onlineconfigservice.ubi.com
    127.0.0.1 orbitservice.ubi.com
    127.0.0.1 ubisoft-orbit-savegames.s3.amazonaws.com

    3 - Then run "ipconfig /flushdns"

    4 - Finally, run server.exe and start your game.

    (Enter an id and password (what you wanted). Do not register)
    Keep the same ID and password for next time, in order to resume play where you left off.

    http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5496065/Assassin_s_Creed_2_Crack_(Final_and_complete)

    1. Re:Just use the "fake" server.. it's more reliable by teh31337one · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Once again, the pirates get the better game, while people who pay for the game have to put up with the DRM. Bravo Ubisoft, bravo.

  10. Re:IANAL, but... by Aladrin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Class action = no time spent, a little money
    Small claims = lots of time spent, possibly a full refund. Maybe.

    Given the crazy lives people lead, I'm not surprised so many choose the 'no time spent' route.

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  11. Not only that by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But once the protection has been figured out, future cracks will be faster. When a new DRM is introduced, it does take some time for crackers to figure out how it works and get around it. The more different it is from past DRM, the longer it takes. Thus this DRM, being custom Ubisoft stuff that's never been seen, takes longer than SecuROM or the like.

    Ok but one they figure it out, and they have, well then in the future it'll be much faster. While the details will change, the base workings are going to be the same and thus not take so long. In this case it may be even easier as the method used seems to be to just emulate the server.

    No matter, it is a losing battle for Ubisoft. They can invest the time and money to make a totally new DRM system for each game if they like, but they'd lose money due to the development expense and it'd still get cracked.

    Game companies really need to knock it the fuck off. You can't make an uncrackable game, so stop wasting your money trying. Also all the people pirating are NOT lost sales. The vast majority would simply do without if they couldn't get it for free. Make good games for a reasonable price with nice extras for paying customers (things like achievements) and you'll find that your game sells fine. Pull shit like this and you'll lose sales because people don't want to deal with it. I was planning on getting AC2 and Settlers 7 but both are off my list because of the DRM. There are plenty of other good games out there (too many in fact, I don't have enough time to play all the games I've got) that have non-invasive or no DRM.

    I'm not unreasonable, I'll meet publishers half way, I can deal with some DRM so long as it doesn't interfere with my ability to play the game. However shit like this is a no go.