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Steve Jobs Recommends Android For Fans of Porn

hansamurai writes "After being asked about the App Store's recent ban on 'sexy apps,' Steve Jobs responded, 'We do believe we have a moral responsibility to keep porn off the iPhone. Folks who want porn can buy an Android phone. You know, there's a porn store for Android, you can download nothing but porn. You can download porn, your kids can download porn. That's a place we don't want to go, so we're not going to go there.' Apps such as Playboy's and the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition are still available on the App Store, however, as they come from 'more reputable companies.'"

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  1. So does he own any android phones? by hansraj · · Score: 5, Funny

    Or he only watches "reputable porn"?

  2. In other news... by maugle · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sales of Android phones increased 1000%.

    1. Re:In other news... by mikael_j · · Score: 4, Informative

      For about ten minutes before customers realized that they could still get porn using Safari and that iTunes gladly lets them transfer their porn videos to the iPhone.

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    2. Re:In other news... by exabrial · · Score: 4, Funny

      Is there porn on the itunes store? Or are you using an illegal method to transfer licensed content to a playback medium not covered by the origanal license?

    3. Re:In other news... by JWSmythe · · Score: 5, Insightful

          I was going to say, that's the best marketing the Android could have hoped for. "It does everything ours does *AND* can do porn." The adult industries have been a driving force for centuries, and Apple making a pseudo-clean environment isn't going to change that at all.

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    4. Re:In other news... by MBGMorden · · Score: 4, Informative

      Ripping a DVD for your own use is legal. DECRYPTING it with an unauthorized backup tool is not thanks to the DMCA, but the vast majority of porn DVD's have no copy protection, in which case the DMCA doesn't come into play.

      Not to mention that there are sites that already cater to this. www.videobox.com for example even has an "iPod" option on their video downloads that downloads a MPEG4 file already optimized for placeback on an iPod, that will import straight into iTunes. Completely legal, and works fine.

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    5. Re:In other news... by MoonBuggy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Not only is the actual availability of porn a potential driving force, Apple has just shattered their facade of being a "cool, forward thinking company".

      As I said in another comment, their core market is young, rich, art/media types. Apple have far less of a need than many to worry about the older, more conservative buyers. Using porn as the bogeyman just isn't going to fly with young people - trying to drag an opponent's name through the mud by associating it with something that plenty of people now consider harmless just makes Apple look out of touch.

    6. Re:In other news... by Applekid · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I was going to say, that's the best marketing the Android could have hoped for. "It does everything ours does *AND* can do porn." The adult industries have been a driving force for centuries, and Apple making a pseudo-clean environment isn't going to change that at all.

      Perhaps. But Jobs was definitely trying to inspire some FUD (in this case, fear) against the Android when he said "You can download porn, your kids can download porn..."

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    7. Re:In other news... by GreenEnvy22 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      True for VHS, but initially the adult industry backed HD-DVD, not bluray,and bluray still won.

    8. Re:In other news... by JWSmythe · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well, the caves that had the women with boobies were probably the most popular ones.

          There was an interesting piece on the History Channel (I believe) about the brothels of Pompeii.

          An awful lot of our history has been determined by either sex or driven because of sex. Occasionally people try to deny this, but in the end it is what drives humanity. Well, humanity is a bit narrow minded, it's what has driven any organism that thrives. Without these instinctual urges, an organism would be a dead end on their evolutionary path.

          Someone will probably want to go all religious on this, so let me beat them to the punch.

      God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth...

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  3. Like the sound of this by DrLang21 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Suddenly I really like Android.

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    1. Re:Like the sound of this by houstonbofh · · Score: 5, Funny

      I prefer deep dicking some tight wet pussy over but I guess porn phone is ok for losers like you that sit home and jack off.

      That is the point! If it is on your phone, you don't have to sit at home and jack off. You can jack off on the go!

  4. Stupid argument by assantisz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And iPhone users (including children) don't have access to porn? Last time I checked (guilty as charged!) there are iPhone specific streaming sites for porn. Instead of going to the app store all they have to open up Safari and google for the goodies.

  5. Is it my imagination? by Conspiracy_Of_Doves · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is it my imagination, or is Steve being more douchey than usual?

    1. Re:Is it my imagination? by Spatial · · Score: 5, Funny

      A momentary fluctuation in the reality distortion field.

    2. Re:Is it my imagination? by Surt · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's your imagination. Specifically, you were imagining that he was not at least this douchey all along.

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  6. He missed the opportunity for a real ice-burn... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Funny

    He is really being a dick there. There's a "porn store" for the iPhone as well, called "Mobile Safari". If anything, the prices are lower.

    However, if he is going to be an asshole he should have gone just a little further... Something to the effect of "And the inferior multitouch support won't bother you nearly as much if you are always using your phone one-handed..."

  7. Any other recommendations, Steve? by Gizzmonic · · Score: 5, Funny

    Steve, buddy! Thanks for the recommendations, I'm a huge fan of pr0n. Could you also recommend pr0n-friendly restaurants, hotels, bakeries etc?

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    1. Re:Any other recommendations, Steve? by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 4, Funny

      Last time I tried to buy an erotic cake, Jean Luc Picard tried to sell me a cake of a woman going to the bathroom. So, no.

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  8. I don't need by Beelzebud · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't need Apple to act as a morality police for what I do with something I own.

    1. Re:I don't need by SoupGuru · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Exactly.

      I'll get an iPhone if I want Jobs dictating what I get according to his tastes. Since I don't, I got a Droid and I can get (or not get) what I want.

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    2. Re:I don't need by ircmaxell · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Exactly... I love the "Think of the children" line that he uses. As if children should even be using smart phones if there exists content that they shouldn't see. Well played straw-man argument Jobs... Well played...

      But I guess Apple want's to parent your kids for you too. New from Apple, the iDad! Never again will you need to know anything about your child's life, simply let the iDad do it for you!

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    3. Re:I don't need by Nerdfest · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually, they just rejected a reportedly extremely nice iPad application that taught kids how to program, called "Scratch", based on Alan Kay's ideas from ages ago. It looks like a fantastic idea, but aparently violates their terms and condition, as the kids can 'create programs'. They're not really thinking of the children.

    4. Re:I don't need by mweather · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You do realise that Walmart's censorship practices influence the content of music,movies, and video games right? You just gave an extremely good example of why companies who control a huge chunk of a given market acting as moral police is a bad thing.

    5. Re:I don't need by fm6 · · Score: 5, Informative

      Especially when the chief censor is this guy:

      http://www.9to5mac.com/steve-jobs-hacks-phones-234556455

      But really, this isn't about censorship. This is about branding. Because Apple doesn't sell technology any more, they sell an image. And that image doesn't have room for stroke facilitation software.

    6. Re:I don't need by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Then buy an Android phone. Thats exactly what jobs just told you you should do.

      That's what I did. This doesn't mean that I shouldn't call Steve a dick when he's acting like one.

  9. Okay by 99BottlesOfBeerInMyF · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Steve Jobs responded, "We do believe we have a moral responsibility to keep porn off the iPhone. Folks who want porn can buy an Android phone. "

    Well, I don't see that porn is particularly harmful to children, especially compared to the violence in media and games sold on the iPhone, so I don't know why one would be a moral imperative and the other would not. I actually think this is marketing, designed to appeal to parents who want their kids kept safe from the evils of... umm... boobies?

    But that's okay. If he's recommending an Android phone, I'll probably take him up on it when I purchase a smartphone.

    1. Re:Okay by Enderandrew · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Nipples are far worse than depictions of brutal murder. Don't argue with the MPAA.

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  10. You're all missing the point by Anonymusing · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is marketing-speak for "We're going to be opening the Apple Porn Store very soon. You think the rigid curves of our multi-touch sensors are cool? You ain't seen nothing. Wait for Steve Jobs to say, 'And one more thing.'"

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  11. Re:Ready Pitchforks! by binarylarry · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I think it's better worded like this:

    'After being asked about the App Store's recent ban on "freedom to use your property as you see fit," Steve Jobs responded, "We do believe we have a moral responsibility to keep freedom away from the iPhone. Folks who want freedom can buy an Android phone. You know, there's a lot of freedom for Android, you can use it anyway you want to, you paid for the hardware, it's yours. You can download porn, your kids can download porn, it's totally free and up to you to do what you want. That's a place we don't want to go, so we're not going to go there." Apps such as Playboy's and the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition are still available on the App Store, however, as they come from "more reputable companies."'

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  12. You have to wonder... by Third+Position · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You know, there's a porn store for Android, you can download nothing but porn. You can download porn, your kids can download porn.

    How does he know?

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  13. let me fix that..... by initdeep · · Score: 5, Insightful

    After being asked about the App Store's recent ban on "sexy apps," Steve Jobs responded, "We do believe we have a moral responsibility to keep porn out of the app store to keep the moronic soccer moms off our ass. Folks who want porn can just use safari and browse to it like a normal person. You know, there's plenty of porn available on the iPhone, and plenty of gay porn hookup apps that soccer moms won't even notice. You can download porn via the browser, or any number of "respectable" apps from companies that make us a lot of money like Playboy and Sports Illustrated , your kids can download porn on their iPhones faster than we can attempt to block it, so we just come up with some lame ass story for the soccer mom's and they buy it because they are fucking pathetically stupid. That's a place we don't want to go, blocking safari, because we know kids will find their porn via browser anyway, so we're not going to go there."

  14. Re:Smart move. by SoupGuru · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Right... there's no way Google could ever come out looking like a good guy.

    "We let our users choose what to download."

    Hmmm...

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  15. Getting scary by nlawalker · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "We do believe we have a moral responsibility to keep porn off the iPhone."

    Apple's only moral responsibility is to let their users do whatever they feel like, and they have failed.

    The "Apple cult" image tossed around as a joke and an insult is becoming more and more true every day. You can't simply buy a device from Apple - you have to buy their device, their software, their platform, and their tastes, desires and morals too, and once you do, you can't separate any of them. This isn't vendor lock-in, it's religion.

  16. Sony Recommends VHS For Fans of Porn by SirWhoopass · · Score: 4, Funny

    Didn't Sony pretty much take the exact same stance with their Betamax format? How did that work out for them?

  17. The Chinese Apple. by BlueKitties · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Apple has a moral responsibility to provide only high quality apps, and sees that it is necessary to forbid anyone from using their iPhone if they do not abide by their rules; This includes banning porn, and politically sensitive matters. China has a moral responsibility to provide only the highest quality websites, and sees that it is necessary to forbid anyone from using their Internet if they do not abide by their rules; This includes banning porn, and politically sensitive matters.

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  18. Re:Smart move. by copponex · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I guess Sergey could say he remembers what it was like being under the thumb of a hopeless totalitarian dickhole from his time living in Soviet Era Russia. So, if you want the same experience of someone else deciding what you can and cannot have access to, shackle yourself to an iPhone.

    (By the way, Steve Jobs is the same guy who denied paternity while his daughter and former girlfriend lived on welfare. I don't think he has any solid footing on the moral high ground.)

  19. Re:But Apple does not provide them by mwvdlee · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Are those android porn stores owned by Google?
    Personally I wouldn't care if they did, but somehow I doubt they do.

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  20. Re:American pornophobia by eln · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't know about anyone else, but my primary fear is that my kids would see it and tell one of their friends at school about it. This then gets overheard by a parent with a huge stick up their ass who goes and tells anyone she can find that I'm letting my children watch porn, and before I know it I'm on the sex offender registry and my kids have a new family because this whole country always has a huge kneejerk overreaction whenever sex and children are mentioned in the same paragraph.

    In short, it's not that I don't think my kids could handle porn, it's that everyone else couldn't handle the idea that my kids were exposed to porn.

  21. Re:But Apple does not provide them by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Nope. Google's Market does not allow porn. Steve is just being an asshole because you can go download and install Android apps from wherever. And somehow the worst kind of app is porn. Not, I dunno, malicious apps that steal your passwords.

    The anti-porn rhetoric from the head of a politically liberal, gay-friendly company is pretty weird, to say the least.

  22. Re:Smart move. by QuasiEvil · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Simple, you don't answer the porn charge directly. You instead talk about how Android is about user choice and user freedom, rather than what putzfuck Jobs decrees "acceptable" for you to use.

  23. Re:But Apple does not provide them by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Which is yet another argument for Android -- you can install apps any way you want, including from any app store you want. There's nothing stopping Apple from opening their own android app store.

    But it does show how moronic these measures are. I mean, you don't see Apple so much as installing a content filter on their mobile Safari, do you?

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  24. Re:He missed the opportunity for a real ice-burn.. by DeBaas · · Score: 4, Funny

    He is really being a dick there. There's a "porn store" for the iPhone as well, called "Mobile Safari". If anything, the prices are lower.

    He's got balls though, if he think he can be a bigger dick than those in the porn business

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  25. He really stepped it up this time. by jwietelmann · · Score: 4, Funny
    This rhetoric is really kicking it up a notch. We're getting into really cynical propaganda territory here.

    Buy our iPhone! Unless you're one of those porn-addicted Android users. I certainly welcome competition, and our competitors are doing a great job of fulfilling that niche market of phones for porn addicts. So if you're proud of being addicted to porn, show everyone just how much you mean it by purchasing my competitor's fine Android product and taking it with you everywhere. Android: There's no better way to tell the world "I'd rather be watching porn!"

  26. Re:But Apple does not provide them by Eunuchswear · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Jobs didn't say "Apple won't sell porn" he said "We do believe we have a moral responsibility to keep porn off the iPhone". He's mad.

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  27. Re:American pornophobia by Terminal+Saint · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's a valid fear. I know someone who asked her father about sex she was about 6 or 7. Her father, not being ashamed of the biological process, gave her a frank and straightforward explanation. Being a child, she then told some of her classmates about it and next thing you know: the parents were getting a visit from CPS.

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  28. Re:He missed the opportunity for a real ice-burn.. by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Funny

    "The porn guys are pikers: They pay to screw their employees. My customers pay me to screw them."

    Yours in manifest serenity, S. Jobs

  29. Wow by oldspewey · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Just when you thought the apple marketing machine couldn't get any more sanctimonious, Jobs goes and says something like this.

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  30. Re:Ready Pitchforks! by vell0cet · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Actually... it's more like saying that the person who built your house (that YOU own) says that he doesn't want OJ Simpson in the house that YOU own. And actively stops you from having him as a guest.

    Your analogy is ludicrous. How would you explain away not having Flash functionality?

  31. Re:Ready Pitchforks! by Razalhague · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Apple sells the same kind of freedom as Microsoft.

  32. Re:Ready Pitchforks! by binarylarry · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I have to disagree. I'm far from a Microsoft fan, but they've never prevented me from running software on their products because they disagreed with the content or subject matter.

    They don't care what you're doing, as long as you're doing it on their platforms. (Although I've never owned a Zune or even seen one in person).

    Apple, on the other hand, wants to completely control what you think and do when using their products.

    It's comical but Apple's trying to make sure 2010 and beyond will be like 1984.

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  33. Re:But Apple does not provide them by TheRealSync · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The anti-porn rhetoric from the head of a politically liberal, gay-friendly company is pretty weird, to say the least.

    What has "gay-friendly" got to do with it?

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  34. That's not moral by hellfire · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I don't believe any sane person believes that maximizing shareholder profits at the expense of consumer freedom and choice is a moral thing. And no, Wall Street is not sane.

    Apple has a financial responsibility to it's shareholders, not a moral one. If the law allowed companies to put babies on spikes and make an obscene amount of profit from doing so, any company would do it. The amount of profit companies make these days is obscene. Naked people doing acts based on natural bodily functions to give each other pleasure is not obscene.

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  35. Re:Walmart by prefec2 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I do not like to be told what I can buy and what not. And I do not shop as Walmart as I do not shop as Aldi or any other discounter which treats their personnel badly. But there is a big difference between Walmart and Apple. Walmart is a store, and I can go to any other store I want when the products from Walmart are not satisfactory. But when I have an iPhone, I can only go to Apple to buy apps. And with iTunes I can only shop at iTunes-Music-Store. This is like Ford having a discounter and you can only drive to the Ford-discounter with your new vehicle, but not to Walmart or any street market.

  36. erotic bakery by viridari · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I recommend avoiding the cream filled donuts.

  37. Re:But Apple does not provide them by Comboman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Anti-porn is one of the few things that ultra-liberals ("objectifies women") and ultra-conservatives ("makes Jesus cry") can agree on.

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  38. Re:Ready Pitchforks! by MooseMuffin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is absurd. The only thing they are controlling is the apps on their store

    Oh, so I'm free to get my iphone porn apps form other stores then?

  39. Does anyone see a pattern here? by An+dochasac · · Score: 4, Funny

    No Pr0n:Betamax, Laserdisc, Afghanistan, iPad,
    Pr0n: VHS, DVD, Las Vegas, Google Android

    Thank's for the tip Mr. Jobs!

  40. Re:Slashdot is out of touch with reality by Pharmboy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Slashdot is seriously out of touch with reality regarding Apple.

    So it is ok for Apple/Jobs to be self-righteous and sanctimonious, as long as they are profitable? What if they starting losing money, would you then find his words offensive? Perhaps some people find it offensive purely on the basis of it restricting your liberty with hardware you paid dearly for.

    What are you, a stockholder or just a tool?

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  41. No, but he's a hypocritical fuck. by theolein · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Steve Job, today's "moral apostle" on the iPhone, is the same hypocritical fuck who fathered a girl and denied it, yet proclaims his moral superiority to the rest of us because of porn? Steve Jobs doesn't give a flying fuck about porn. It's just more pandering to the Disney crowd. There's nothing wrong with that, but it would be nice if he had the balls to admit it.