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HP To Buy Palm For $1.2 Billion

necro81 writes "Palm, Inc., which has struggled in recent months after making a splash with its Pre smartphone, will be bought by HP, the world's largest computer maker. The deal has been approved by both companies' boards, and should be wrapped up this summer. HP will get Palm for about $5.70/share (about 20% above today's closing price), or about $1.2 billion. That's a pretty good deal, considering that in the months following the launch of the Pre on Sprint's network, Palm's share price topped $16. But marketing blunders hindered the Pre's more widespread adoption on other carriers, and the company's very existence has recently seemed in doubt."

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  1. WebOS on Itanium? by xanthos · · Score: 5, Funny

    Finally a decent OS to run on the SuperDomes!

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  2. HP Reverse Telephone Notation by Lev13than · · Score: 5, Funny

    Great - does this mean we'll have to make all our calls using RPN?
    1234 555 212 1+ DIAL
    I know it's supposed to be more logical, but it just seems so confusing...

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    1. Re:HP Reverse Telephone Notation by Mikkeles · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm holding out for mobileVMS!

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    2. Re:HP Reverse Telephone Notation by gstoddart · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Great - does this mean we'll have to make all our calls using RPN?
      1234 555 212 1+ DIAL
      I know it's supposed to be more logical, but it just seems so confusing...

      You won't have to do it in RPN ... you will, however, have to adapt to HP making yet another random variant on the layout of the keyboard as HP plays "spin the wheel of keyboards". It won't be QWERTY, but it might be QVELTI.

      I swear, I have never seen two HP keyboards with the buttons in the same place -- and, sometimes they have buttons I've never seen before. I mean, seriously, I've seen HP keyboards where the left-shift key was the size of a penny with a completely redundant "\" + "|" key to the right of it when there was already one of those in the usual place above the "enter". What the hell??

      There really needs to be a law about making up new keyboards layouts for no good &*^%*(*&*%# reason.

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    3. Re:HP Reverse Telephone Notation by MichaelSmith · · Score: 2, Funny

      My alphaserver 3000 is mobile. I have a one tonne Toyota van.

    4. Re:HP Reverse Telephone Notation by cmacb · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Actually that will be great! We can finally get rid of those parentheses we put around the area code.

  3. Doomed by gyrogeerloose · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If the direction the quality of HP printers is heading is any indication, say goodbye to Palm.

    They used to be the best. Now, I wouldn't touch one.

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    1. Re:Doomed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Say what you will but HP is one of very few that actually fully support Linux. Not long ago I got one of their new multifunction inkjets and it works across the board with Linux (wireless printing, wireless scanning, everything) and I didn't need to do anything special to make it work. Good luck getting that anywhere else.

    2. Re:Doomed by Abcd1234 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If the direction the quality of HP printers is heading is any indication

      Yes, because god knows the only thing HP makes is printers, and therefore printers are the perfect barometer for how Palm will fair under their auspices...

    3. Re:Doomed by AuMatar · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It is pretty much all they make. Its half the revenue of the company, and they sold all the interesting shit off as Agilent more than a decade ago. Now its crappy printers, crappy PCs, and some services to big businesses.

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    4. Re:Doomed by gyrogeerloose · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Say what you will but HP is one of very few that actually fully support Linux

      Okay, I'll give them that. I guess I'm mostly dismayed by how far HP has fallen over the years. At one time, a person could count on anything he bought from them to be a good product, probably the best available. Beginning with the Carly Fiorina era, though, it's been all downhill for them. They don't even make all that great built-like-a-brick-shithouse test equipment that they built their reputation on anymore.

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    5. Re:Doomed by athakur999 · · Score: 4, Funny

      On the plus side, it means they'll sell the new Palm phones for practically nothing!

      However, replacement batteries will cost $100. Also, they can't be recharged and the one that comes with the phone will only last you about 10 minutes.

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    6. Re:Doomed by aliquis · · Score: 2, Funny

      That is a problem everywhere, I feel the same about girls born 1979, Amiga, Ericsson, ..

    7. Re:Doomed by aliquis · · Score: 2, Funny

      .. right, they also make printer accessories.

    8. Re:Doomed by BlendieOfIndie · · Score: 2, Informative

      This is flat out incorrect

      In January 2010 HP's revenue = 31.1 B

      The breakdown by business unit is as follows:

      Enterprise Business (Services/Storage/Servers): $13.9B
      Personal Systems Group (Notebooks/Desktops/etc): $10B
      Imaging and Printing: $6.2B

      The printing segment composes less than 20% of HP's total revenue.

    9. Re:Doomed by gyrogeerloose · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Pay attention, fool. Agilent has the test equipment now.

      Right. Agilent has the test equipment now, which means that HP no longer makes it. Fool.

      And come on, do you really expect a $99 laser printer to work like a $3500 LaserJet original?

      Of course not, but I expect a $99 inkjet printer I bought two years ago which only lasted about 18 months to work as well as the $99 inkjet printer I bought ten years ago which still works. Fool.

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    10. Re:Doomed by Sulphur · · Score: 2, Funny

      Market Segmentation Fault ... Return Without Gosub

    11. Re:Doomed by gyrogeerloose · · Score: 2, Informative

      agilent is HP. Fool.

      No, fool, Agilent is not HP. Agilent Technologies is a separate company that was spun off from HP in 1999.

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  4. Return of the iPaq? by jacks+smirking+reven · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Smart move if HP is thinking about getting back into the phone business. They probably threw the idea around and came to the conclusion that they'd be another also-ran if they just pushed Android/WP7 sets (Especially since thats the move Dell is making)

    As a Pre owner I would be glad to see WebOS on some adequate hardware, and in a tablet form as well.

  5. It's about the patents by jdastrup · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I wondered why at first, but then figured out that HP can let Palm and its products die completely, while making money with the patents alone.

    1. Re:It's about the patents by rdean400 · · Score: 4, Informative

      The press release makes clear that HP intends to continue with webOS. In the press conference, they say they're intending to go forward with Android and Windows Phone gear as well.

      Expect new webOS products (not just phones, but tablets as well).

    2. Re:It's about the patents by ProppaT · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Tablets with WebOS WOULD be slick as hell. My only concern is form factor. If they leave palm in control of form factors, etc. then I have no worries. But when is the last time that you saw an HP laptop with good stylings or, at very least, a form factor that makes sense? I don't trust HP with intelligently designed products. I think this is part of the reason why everyone really hoped that HTC would snag up Palm. HTC actually learns from their mistakes.

      The best thing that can come out of this deal for Palm is access to all of HPs fabrication plants. This might open a ton of doors for what Palm can do and will help them turn profit. It's hard being the small guy and making profit. When you have Daddy Warbucks with his hand on your shoulder, things change a bit...

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  6. Re:Overvalued by CondeZer0 · · Score: 3, Funny

    You got it wrong, his (right) palm is a nerd's best friend!

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  7. HP still around? by Eggbloke · · Score: 2, Interesting

    HP, the world's largest computer maker.

    HP are still that big? I haven't seen one of their products in years.

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    1. Re:HP still around? by CorporateSuit · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's my fault. I had to replace a few ink cartridges in my printer. That, alone, probably paid for Palm.

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    2. Re:HP still around? by tgd · · Score: 4, Informative

      Their market cap is 125 billion dollars.

      That makes the half the size of Apple, but five times Dell's size.

    3. Re:HP still around? by westlake · · Score: 3, Informative

      HP are still that big? I haven't seen one of their products in years.

      300,000 full-time employees. Market cap $125 Billion. Indexed in the Dow Industrials. S&P 100, etc. In the U.S., second only to IBM in computer hardware sales. Does any of this ring a bell?

      HPQ Competitors
       

    4. Re:HP still around? by blair1q · · Score: 2

      That must be it. HP is planning on giving away a free Palm device with every ink cartridge sold starting in 2011.

    5. Re:HP still around? by capo_dei_capi · · Score: 2, Informative
      When was the last time you saw an IBM product?

      %spoiler Market cap: 166.53B %spoiler

    6. Re:HP still around? by TedRiot · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I saw a few hundred of their products just a couple of days ago when I visited one of our datacenters.

  8. I wonder why... by monoqlith · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's amazing the effect that one creepy girl can have on a share price.

    Seriously. That last one is the worst. Using a phone is like the transmigration of souls?

    Boo. In fairness, it's not the girl's fault at all.

  9. Marketing blunders... by plover · · Score: 3, Funny

    By "marketing blunders", do they mean Palm's "The Most Pale Woman in the World" campaign? Because I've gotta say, she really didn't sell me on a Palm, or anything else.

    She looked more like an extra from the Lord of the Rings (generic elf maiden #38) than a spokesmodel for a technical product.

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    1. Re:Marketing blunders... by gyrogeerloose · · Score: 2, Insightful

      By "marketing blunders", do they mean Palm's "The Most Pale Woman in the World" campaign? Because I've gotta say, she really didn't sell me on a Palm, or anything else.

      Agreed. That's got to be one of the worst ad campaigns ever--worse than Microsoft's abominable Bill Gates/Jerry Seinfeld ads, even. Palm should have gone after their ad agency and demanded a refund.

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    2. Re:Marketing blunders... by rxan · · Score: 2, Funny

      She looked more like an extra from the Lord of the Rings (generic elf maiden #38) than a spokesmodel for a technical product.

      I thought I recognized her.

    3. Re:Marketing blunders... by Mordaximus · · Score: 2, Informative

      Just for reference sake, her name is Tamara Hope. She's actually quite pretty.

  10. Buying it back... by Hobbex · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Since HP already own 3COM, who spun off Palm in 2000 (with a first day valuation of something like 30 times what they are paying for it today), one could almost say that Palm is being bought back after 10 (not so happy) years as an independent company.

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  12. If IBM... by sophomoric · · Score: 2

    If IBM were to buy HP+Palm, it would be the ultimate congolmerate of once-great companies.

    1. Re:If IBM... by mgblst · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Palm messed up a long time ago. They had the initial momentum, a great product, but then they failed to add anything to hardware or software for years, while iPaq and their kin came over and owned the higher end.

      Palm owned this space, and messed up big time, when they could have ruled it all.

  13. Re:Massive overpayment by abigor · · Score: 4, Funny

    But who would want to, when they are covered with hair?

  14. Re:Android... by LWATCDR · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Why?
    WebOS has a better UI than Android does. And yes I am an Android user my wife has a Pre. WebOS is a good OS that had a STUPID SDK for a long time. They have fixed that and will soon offer access to the camera and mic which should help even more.

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  15. Re:Does that include... by somersault · · Score: 4, Funny

    She might be a bit creepy, but I certainly wouldn't refuse her Palm.

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  16. Re:A relief... by TheRaven64 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I was worried Palm was just going to fade away.

    Yup, now it's going to enjoy the same level of long term success as the Alpha, OpenVMS, Tru64...

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  17. HP's new mobile social networking site: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Facepalm

  18. HP's New Girlfriend by Anne_Nonymous · · Score: 2, Funny

    Now that Carly Fiorina isn't around to fuck HP any longer, it's now girlfriend is it's Palm.

  19. Hopefully... by aodash · · Score: 2, Insightful

    HP won't pull an Oracle - ruin Palm the way Oracle has ruined Sun.

  20. New name by adenied · · Score: 3, Funny

    Perhaps their new name should be HPalm3Compaq.

  21. No by Dunbal · · Score: 2, Informative

    HP BOUGHT Palm. Shares of PALM are no longer traded on the NASDAQ as of market close today. If you were short, you owe a lot of money...

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    1. Re:No by NiteMair · · Score: 2, Informative

      Which is why they're still trading in after hours (for as much as $5.94/share last I checked)... and the deal won't even be finalized until July 31st.

      Even then, there's already a class action lawsuit being setup to investigate the "speedy" sale and Palm's fiduciary duty to its shareholders:

      http://www.zlk.com/palm.html

      I wouldn't be so certain this is a finalized deal quite yet...

  22. Long-forgotten opportunity by WheelDweller · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I guess it was the 'shirts' that decided Palm's handwriting recognition was 'too valuable' to license...idiots. The time for using that had seemed passed, and nowdays with touch-screen oriented smartphones, it sounds like a good idea, again.

    This sounds silly; but I STILL have a couple of Palm 5's around here. When I was a security guard, I could actually watch a line for activity, while writing on the Palm, without worrying about it being readable. I *SO* prefer it to the number-pad texting; it's so much faster and easy to learn.

    Let's hope of all the treasures HP has found and lost, that the handwriting program is something they feel like licensing, cheaply, because it's darned useful, not hiding, because "they want to make all their money back". (This never happens, introducing scarcity: people work around it, instead).

    So....GO HP!

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  23. Re:My take? Fraud.... by h4rr4r · · Score: 2, Funny

    You want an apartment in a hot miserable place?

  24. Re:Overvalued by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hey, I'm left handed you insensitive clod!

  25. Because HP is so good at selling handhelds... by Shag · · Score: 5, Funny

    Does my memory fail me, or is HP the company that couldn't even do a decent job of selling iPods, the handheld-electronics equivalent of crack-covered pancakes?

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    1. Re:Because HP is so good at selling handhelds... by vaporland · · Score: 2, Informative

      Well, after Apple sold HP a load of iPods, they lowered the price so that HP was stuck selling at the old price, or the new price at a loss... that was a classic RDF execution....

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  26. Re:Confusing by tgd · · Score: 2, Funny

    Fuck off, they didn't start anything.

    You might want to ask your doc to up your meds ...

  27. Sure it makes sense by symbolset · · Score: 3, Insightful

    HP has finally realized that in addition to being in competition with Cisco/VMWare/EMC in the datacenter, they're also in competition with Apple in the consumer gadgetry department. This probably comes out of Apple passing Microsoft on the S&P 500 last week. This is actually a good thing. $1.2B isn't a big deal to get Palm's patent portfolio and add some phones to their product list as well.

    It also means they have no intention of going down with the WinTel ship. They're going to make a fight of it.

    I hope they come out with a decent ARM based Android slate. I won't be buying that Intel Atom+Windows 7 version.

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  28. too little, too late: by UnanimousCoward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Imagine if they launched their campaign with this commercial instead. Palm's life would be SOOOO different.

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  29. Re:Android... by LWATCDR · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "Besides, FOSS is always better than proprietary in the long term."
    Really? Does Linux have more apps or market share on the desktop? No?
    I like FOSS but you have zero proof to back up your statement. You are going to count out the iPhone as well.
    Well you can do what you want but if you are right then Palm has a great future.
    Palm OS IS based on Linux and frankly it is the most open of platforms right now.
    Heck the Palm Website included instructions on how to set up your phone so you could side load apps that where not in the App store!
    But there is nothing like seeing people make grand sweeping statements that have no basis if fact.

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  30. Palm is like an awesomely bad vampyre... by tehIvyn · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ... that just wouldnt die. Palms occasionally brilliant products and innovations, are completely outdone by the incompetence of their marketing and sales people. Everytime I see a press release from Palm I am surprised they are still around, and its been like this since they got spun off from 3Com.