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Scientists Implant Biofuel Cells Into Rats

RedmondChris writes "A team of scientists from Joseph Fourier University in France have successfully implanted biofuel cells into rats, generating 6.5 microwatts by harnessing the power of glucose. From the article: 'The device uses enzymes to harvest energy from glucose and oxygen found naturally in the body. Past attempts at using such a device in animals have failed because the enzymes have required acidic conditions or were inhibited by charged particles in the fluid surrounding cells. But Philippe Cinquin and his team from Joseph Fourier University in Grenoble, France, overcame these obstacles by confining selected enzymes inside graphite discs that were placed into dialysis bags. Glucose and oxygen flowed into the device, but enzymes stayed in place and catalyzed the oxidation of glucose to generate electrical energy.'"

164 comments

  1. I for one... by AnonGCB · · Score: 1

    ... Welcome our new cyborg rat overlords!

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    1. Re:I for one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Phone in my head, perpetually powered by me.

    2. Re:I for one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They just keep going and going and going . . .

    3. Re:I for one... by sortius_nod · · Score: 0

      We're a few steps from sharks with frickin laser beams!

    4. Re:I for one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly my thoughts... and you know what?

      -- I'm worried about the poor sharks.

      How closer to mad scientists do we have to get? What is missing? The maniacal laughter? The "it's alive!" cry?

      > The technology could be used for a range of applications, such as neural and bone-growth stimulators, drug delivery devices, insulin pumps, and biosensors ... not to mention zombies that walk without needing food. Hey, waiddamin, wasn't there that guy in India... ! Wow! I mean, really wow! ... Nah! Must be totally another thing... or is it?!?

    5. Re:I for one... by dov_0 · · Score: 1

      So when you plug your headset into your ear it charges? Cool...

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    6. Re:I for one... by Captain+Hook · · Score: 1

      not to mention zombies that walk without needing food.

      Umm, where did you get that from?

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    7. Re:I for one... by somersault · · Score: 1

      Why would you need a headset when you already have a phone implanted in your head?

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    8. Re:I for one... by asukasoryu · · Score: 1

      As if cell phone radiation wasn't a concern already.

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  2. Life imitates the movies.... by GaryOlson · · Score: 3, Funny

    Except The Matrix is a The Maze full of rats.

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    1. Re:Life imitates the movies.... by ILuvRamen · · Score: 0

      Remember the slashdot story a few years ago about MIT using electronics attached directly to a rat's brain to steer it around using a remote control in order to run network cabling through tough spaces? So yeah, we have officially invented the basis for a rat matrix :D

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    2. Re:Life imitates the movies.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If the chips start outputing more electrical energy than the chemical energy they take in, then it will be like The Matrix.

      What's that you say? Something about thermodynamics and breaking the laws of physics? To hell with the laws of physics!

    3. Re:Life imitates the movies.... by slorbius · · Score: 1

      Hey, it was COMBINED WITH A FORM OF FUSION. This fact explains everything.

    4. Re:Life imitates the movies.... by rakslice · · Score: 1

      er... Link?

    5. Re:Life imitates the movies.... by fzammett · · Score: 1

      I've always loved that line... it's kind of like saying that I can break a quantum cryptography cipher with a Commodore 64... combined with a form of Deep Thought!

      I mean, if I have the immensely-powerful Deep Thought (fusion) to begin with, why do I need the relatively minor power of a C64 (human body) added to it?!?

      I know, I know, trick question: the C64, unlike a human body, allows me to play Jumpman Jr., Hover Bover, Space Taxi and Impossible Mission, and that's gotta count for something :)

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    6. Re:Life imitates the movies.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, we are moving ever-closer to the dark dystopia foretold in "Pokémon 2000".

  3. The Matrix by zaydana · · Score: 2, Funny

    I guess its only a matter of time before we have big towers full of humans in glowy red fluid which generate electricity. And hovercrafts, lots of hovercrafts.

    1. Re:The Matrix by zoloto · · Score: 1

      I love how you were modded redundant, as if there's a big "DUH" tag we could stick on this news story.

    2. Re:The Matrix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pfff, flying cars will never happen.

    3. Re:The Matrix by Hurricane78 · · Score: 2, Funny

      My hovercraft is full of humans.
      Do you wayaahhnt... do you wahaant to come back to my Matrix? Bouncy bouncy!

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    4. Re:The Matrix by ElectricTurtle · · Score: 1

      My electrodes explode with delight!

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    5. Re:The Matrix by SnarfQuest · · Score: 1

      But, my hovercraft is full of eels!

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  4. Yes, but how will we tax it? by davidwr · · Score: 2, Funny

    If the carbon tax passes, do we tax it based on the amount of carbon in the glucose, or what???

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    1. Re:Yes, but how will we tax it? by sys.stdout.write · · Score: 2, Funny

      I love how your first thought after reading about a new scientific breakthrough is "How can we tax this???"

      You should run for office in Massachusetts.

    2. Re:Yes, but how will we tax it? by metrometro · · Score: 1

      If the carbon tax [slashdot.org] passes, do we tax it based on the amount of carbon in the glucose, or what???

      This is why we need cap and trade, not a carbon tax. If I can produce energy that's carbon neutral, I'll get paid to be fat.

    3. Re:Yes, but how will we tax it? by lena_10326 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Massachutax.

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    4. Re:Yes, but how will we tax it? by dontbgay · · Score: 3, Funny

      It seems as if your sig contains some irony.

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    5. Re:Yes, but how will we tax it? by choseph · · Score: 1

      I always thought it was Taxachusetts (Homer taught me that)

    6. Re:Yes, but how will we tax it? by rjch · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This is why we need cap and trade, not a carbon tax. If I can produce energy that's carbon neutral, I'll get paid to be fat

      The problem with that is that generally speaking the fatter you are, the more you fart. Since there's carbon dioxide and quite frequently methane in the resulting... expulsion... you're contributing to global warming that way.

    7. Re:Yes, but how will we tax it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      At least it's not shamelessly self-contradictory.

    8. Re:Yes, but how will we tax it? by ZeroExistenZ · · Score: 1

      The problem with that is that generally speaking the fatter you are, the more you fart. Since there's carbon dioxide and quite frequently methane in the resulting... expulsion... you're contributing to global warming that way.

      wow: (with other words) so they could/should raise fastfood and snacktax?

      "If you eat unhealthy, you grow fatter and polute more by flatulence"

      Consumer reasons: "I didn't know it makes me fart more, the companies providing me this should carry the tax"

      Producer reasons: "We get flatulencetaxed because the preception of flatulent people, who CHOOSe to be flatulent and love the product for that very reason, which is the users personal responsability.
      Internal R&D on flatulenceless junkfood and research on the corelation of their product and the level of flatulence as a result (study is inconclusive, suggests some personal responsability -exercise or combination with other products- is out of their scope of responsability)."

      Government reasons: "He who chooses to eat more flatulent products, should be taxed for poluting.
      He who creates flatulence-stimulating products, should be held accountable and should be taxed for indirect poluting and apply flatulence-level labels to make the user or consumer aware of the raised flatulence polution the product may impact in a easy to understand 5-level rating determined by a assembled board of flatulence-advisors.

      From "mild flatulence motivating (MFM)", receiving mild flatulence tax, up to "very strong flatulence motivating (VSFM)", requiring a higher level of taxation.

      (and by no means, we'll utilize this tax to neutralize the flatulence impact on the environment)

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    9. Re:Yes, but how will we tax it? by LordAzuzu · · Score: 1

      It shouldnt be exactly like you say. The amount of intestines is, more or less, the same in every human. Being fat means that you have more fat on, not that your intestines are longer (and eventually contain more poo > more flatulence).
      And being fat doesnt HAVE to mean that you eat a lot.

    10. Re:Yes, but how will we tax it? by mldi · · Score: 1

      Except that bodily expulsions are part of a cycle.

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  5. Re:Oh, I get it now by DurendalMac · · Score: 1

    Nah, it's because the second and third books were written by a different author.

  6. Back To The Future by AnotherAnonymousUser · · Score: 4, Funny

    Marty: Are you telling me that this sucker is nuclear?
    Doc Brown: No, no, no, no, no. This sucker's electrical. But I need a rat to generate the 1.21 gigawatts of electricity I need.

    1. Re:Back To The Future by ArsonSmith · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm sure in 1985 you can get a rat in any corner drug store, but in 1953 they're a little hard to come by.

      (was it 1953? don't feel like looking it up)

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    2. Re:Back To The Future by Rollgunner · · Score: 2, Interesting

      For 1.21 gigawatts, you're going to need a little over 200 trillion rats (at 6.5 milliwatts each)... I do not volunteer to do the wiring.

    3. Re:Back To The Future by saforrest · · Score: 1

      (was it 1953? don't feel like looking it up)

      1955. Don't ask me why I remember that.

    4. Re:Back To The Future by idji · · Score: 1

      Jigawatts, not Gigawatts!

    5. Re:Back To The Future by Captain+Hook · · Score: 1

      OK, I won't ask.

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    6. Re:Back To The Future by Marriedman · · Score: 1

      Because it was a red letter date in history. Nov 5 1955. Right after the birth of christ and the signing of the Declaration of Independence. It's one of my personal favorite movies!

    7. Re:Back To The Future by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      perhaps this is the first practical application for wireless power.

  7. Metabolism number two by MachDelta · · Score: 2, Funny

    Wow, a second metabolism for charging my cellphone/laptop/plug-in hybrid? Sounds great! I wonder approximately how many miles of range you could get out of a big mac? "Yeah I better supersize that sucker, i'm headed out of town this weekend!"

    1. Re:Metabolism number two by MichaelSmith · · Score: 2, Insightful

      More likely an insulin pump and eventually an artificial heart.

    2. Re:Metabolism number two by Nadaka · · Score: 1

      You are not thinking strait, those are practical medical applications.

      This things first real application in humans? A weight loss supplement for the fabulously wealthy.

    3. Re:Metabolism number two by MichaelSmith · · Score: 2, Funny

      Coupled to internal LED safety lights? I hate bumping into naked people in dark alleys.

    4. Re:Metabolism number two by jginspace · · Score: 1

      I was thinking the same. Or the other side of the coin: an eat-as-much-as-you-like enabler. Gluttons can overdose on pizza then have enough glucose to give their netbook a full charge.

    5. Re:Metabolism number two by NicknamesAreStupid · · Score: 1

      This gives a whole new meaning to "feeling rundown," "recharge my batteries," and "pump me up."

    6. Re:Metabolism number two by Kreigaffe · · Score: 5, Funny

      That was my first thought. This could bring Americans back from the brink of fat jokes and into the forefront of human-powered portable devices -- while slimming us down at the same time. Think about that! No change in lifestyle or habits, but you're thinner AND you don't have to plug your cellphone in ever again!

      My second thought was "holy sweet shit I want a laser in my index finger"

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    7. Re:Metabolism number two by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is that your girlfriend talking?

    8. Re:Metabolism number two by i+ate+my+neighbour · · Score: 1

      Except that the system doesn't work on fat, but only on sugar. So big mac is a fail in this case.

    9. Re:Metabolism number two by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This could bring Americans back from the brink of fat jokes

      And right into the "skinny freaks with breather masks", "strange people that breath heavily all day" and "blueish corpses that died of hypoxemia" jokes.

    10. Re:Metabolism number two by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 1

      I find the fact that you would have to actually plug in your cell phone to charge it a big turn off.

      Or turn on ;)

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    11. Re:Metabolism number two by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You should probably realize that a great percentage of that big mat is turned into sugar by the body digestive system. I'm not sure of the %, (check your local MC'd for that). However they actual percentage of fat I expect to be fairly low, the bun itself (all 3 layers, the mayo, the ketchup and some of the meat itself) will all be turned into glucose by the body. I'm admit I do not know what the body does with 'direct fat' intake however it wouldn't surprise me in the least to know the stomach acids break it down (like they do proteins and starches) and turn the fat into sugars and then store those sugars and fat cells in the body if needed.

      Anyhow peace out!

    12. Re:Metabolism number two by bkr1_2k · · Score: 1

      I hate bumping into naked people in dark alleys.

      Then you're doing it wrong.

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    13. Re:Metabolism number two by Nadaka · · Score: 1

      Just put it in vibrate mode, you wouldn't want to get interrupted, or maybe you would?

    14. Re:Metabolism number two by mdielmann · · Score: 1

      One of my first thoughts was the fantasy novel Demon Blade. Magic is fueled by life energy, and you can get it from yourself, or your surroundings. Hence, wizards spent a lot of their free time eating and getting fat. Gotta be prepared...

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  8. So can we... by sv_libertarian · · Score: 1

    Do this to politicians too, and make them finally serve a useful purpose?

  9. effects on the host? by timmarhy · · Score: 1

    i have to wonder what the effects on the host would be. sounds like a really complex way to generate power rath then just burning the fuel to produce steam etc.

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    1. Re:effects on the host? by JoshuaZ · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The major advantage is that it becomes a plausible source of power for implanted devices. Health monitoring devices but also storage, computer interfaces, pretty much anything you can imagine. This sort of technology makes cyborg implants much more plausible.

    2. Re:effects on the host? by GuruBuckaroo · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah, but how many watts can you get just by burning a pile of dead rats?

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    3. Re:effects on the host? by timmarhy · · Score: 0
      didn't think of that, very interesting from that point of view. it gives you a way to power devices just by eating.

      american's will be able to run a 40 inch plasma then?

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    4. Re:effects on the host? by fractoid · · Score: 2, Insightful

      i have to wonder what the effects on the host would be. sounds like a really complex way to generate power rath then just burning the fuel to produce steam etc.

      Or getting them to turn a crank or walk on a treadmill... Just doing some exercise is the simplest, healthiest AND it helps your muscles turn into something that prospective partners would *want* to look at.

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    5. Re:effects on the host? by Shikaku · · Score: 1

      This gives a whole new meaning and whole new way to burn fat. Just plug in the TV to yourself and watch those pounds melt away!

    6. Re:effects on the host? by Dekker3D · · Score: 1

      and combining this with the nerve-end transistors we had here a while ago, you could make something pretty sweet. it couldn't use a lot of power, but you still wouldn't need batteries. i, for one, welcome our new semi-cyborg allies. as long as i get to be one too.

    7. Re:effects on the host? by Linker3000 · · Score: 1

      Maybe it's on $YourFavouriteBurgerRestarant web site under 'Nutritional information' - look for something marked up in 'calories'.

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  10. These scientists, I tell ya. by AnonymousClown · · Score: 1
    I wonder if they were the kids who poured gasoline in cat's asses and watched them run around until they stopped. You know, the cats ran out of gas.

    Now it's biofuels. You can take the scientist out of the kid but not the kid out of the scientist ... or something....

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    1. Re:These scientists, I tell ya. by Kreigaffe · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'd be more worried about what the scientists were doing in kids in the first place, but that's just me

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  11. A true renewable power solution by texwtf · · Score: 1

    How soon can we hook them up to The Matrix?

    1. Re:A true renewable power solution by thehostiles · · Score: 1

      we only need to do that if they become troublesome and don't stay in stasis

    2. Re:A true renewable power solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd hope that these power sources are hooked up to pacemakers or other bio-med devices... Current batteries are OK, but require surgery to replace.

    3. Re:A true renewable power solution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd hope that these power sources are hooked up to pacemakers or other bio-med devices... Current batteries are OK, but require surgery to replace.

      Wait, won't you replace the rat by surgery too?

    4. Re:A true renewable power solution by fractoid · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'd hope that these power sources are hooked up to pacemakers or other bio-med devices... Current batteries are OK, but require surgery to replace.

      Whereas these new batteries are OK, but require sugary to replace?

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  12. Acidic Conditions? by flaming+error · · Score: 1

    "Past attempts ... have failed because the enzymes have required acidic conditions"
    Maybe it would work with fatty acids. We could install permanent liposuction ports to our bellies and recharge our cell phones on the go.

  13. Now that we have the power source ... by Evil+Pete · · Score: 1

    ... we can attach the lasers to their heads.

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  14. God damn rat bastards by oldhack · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I've got nothing.

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      then shut the fuck up

  15. Enough power for a pacemaker? by hrvatska · · Score: 5, Interesting

    After reading TFA, I was left wondering if this technique could be used to generate enough power to eliminate or reduce the need to replace pacemaker batteries.

    1. Re:Enough power for a pacemaker? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's already a way to recharge pacemaker batteries without replacing them.

    2. Re:Enough power for a pacemaker? by hrvatska · · Score: 3, Informative

      I had heard that current rechargeable pacemakers aren't as popular as the non-rechargeable units because they're much bigger and bulkier than non-rechargeable units.

    3. Re:Enough power for a pacemaker? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      No. Doctors would never, ever use them. Cardiologists make $thousands with each pacemaker change and update. On top of that, pacemakers have been known to fail, and people don't really want decades-old machinery in their body. It's a good thought, but implausible.

    4. Re:Enough power for a pacemaker? by Ichijo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I had heard that current rechargeable pacemakers aren't as popular as the non-rechargeable units because they're much bigger and bulkier than non-rechargeable units.

      If it's due to the size of the battery, this glucose fuel cell could eliminate the need for batteries entirely.

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    5. Re:Enough power for a pacemaker? by bkr1_2k · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Think outside of the USA. There is no reason to replace something (especially a pace maker) if it's functioning properly. That said, there's also no reason someone couldn't go in for an "upgrade" if they had some reason they thought their "decades-old machinery" wasn't working properly.

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    6. Re:Enough power for a pacemaker? by pinkushun · · Score: 2, Informative

      The maximum power of the device was 6.5 microwatts, which approaches the 10 microwatts required by pacemakers.

      "I'm optimistic that we will get tens of milliwatts in future versions," he says.

      "Reading TFA", suuuure...

  16. Diabetics by AMMalena · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Anyone consider the possibility of a device that not only produces energy from the body, but also uses up glucose? A device that conceivably could both help eat up Glucose and POWER a MONITOR to help see how the diabetic is doing??

    I happen to be a highly insulin-resistant Type 2, and this was the first thing I thought of when I read this.

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    1. Re:Diabetics by marciot · · Score: 4, Funny

      I can totally see a hypoglycemic person frantically fumbling through his pockets to turn on enough electronic gadgets to burn up all the extra glucose before it's too late.

      "My netbook is going into power saving mode? NOOOOOO!"

    2. Re:Diabetics by compro01 · · Score: 4, Informative

      That should be hyperglycemic. Hypoglycemic means the blood sugar is too low.

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    3. Re:Diabetics by GuruBuckaroo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Just... just fuck you. Seriously.

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    4. Re:Diabetics by DigitalReverend · · Score: 1

      Right, and if the electricity is being produced by the glucose (blood sugar) and it gets too low, then the device will go into power saving mode due to lack of enough energy.

      Here's your sign.

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    5. Re:Diabetics by fractoid · · Score: 1

      get a bariatric surgery and some crystal meth...

      Or just spend 48 hours every weekend, up to your eyeballs in a cocktail of speed and MDMA, dancing your ass off. I know a guy that dropped like 60kg like that in a few months, then quit when he was at a healthy weight. Risky and illegal but damned if it ain't effective.

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    6. Re:Diabetics by Hurricane78 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What you failed to mention, is that he neither had any teeth, hair, money or immune system left.
      (If that reminds you of a zombie, you’re not the only one.)

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    7. Re:Diabetics by Sockatume · · Score: 1

      Why would a hypoglycemic want to turn on their gadgets to "burn up all the extra glucose"? That would just exacerbate the problem. I think you've read the parent without reading the grandparent.

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    8. Re:Diabetics by fractoid · · Score: 1

      Actually I'd have thought so but I met him years later, he was still fit, healthy, and basically much better off for it. I asked and he said he'd kept up the clubbing for about 3 months before getting bored and giving it up.

      Then again he said something about his girlfriend leaving when he bought a Glowing Brightwood Staff in WoW, so I know he was a noob. Any fool would get the Rod of the Ogre Magi at 60 and save themselves 500g...

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    9. Re:Diabetics by marciot · · Score: 1

      Correct. I meant hypoglycemic. My bad.

    10. Re:Diabetics by marciot · · Score: 1

      Correct. I meant hypoglycemic. My bad.

      Argh. I mean, I meant hyperglycemic. Darn it. I made the same mistake twice.

  17. Electric rodent = Pikachu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...at least according to the anime.

    I, for one, welcome our new Pokémon overlords!

  18. Only a matter of time by EdIII · · Score: 4, Funny

    Customer: Yes, I would like the biofuel cell package installed.
    Store Rep: No problem... how much were you looking for?
    Customer: I got one of those new holographic iGotta2HavIt's and about 15 pounds to lose....
    Store Rep: You want the BF2000.... now of course you will also need the battery pack installed which is this 12 inch long unit we shove...
    Customer: Does that come in black?
    Store Rep: Lot's of people ask that... yes we do.

  19. Conversation in the near future by hyades1 · · Score: 1

    "That's a really nice smart phone, man! But doesn't a screen that size really suck power"

    "Well, yeah, a bit, but it comes with a 20 rat-power charger. Fifteen minutes in the cage and it's good to go."

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  20. Isn't this kinda like by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Evil?

  21. Rats in your tank ? by barath_s · · Score: 1

    So we have gone now from putting a Tiger in your tank to putting Rats in your tank ? Whatever next ? Snakes on a plane ?

  22. It causes acidosis, and Cancer is a fungus. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    if you have sugar in your blood, then cancer will leach it down and then generate it's anti-host viral bodies to subdue the host immune system while it enters in phase with the flesh to lower the PH of the surrounding environment where the leaching parasitism begins.

    1. Re:It causes acidosis, and Cancer is a fungus. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      are you retarded?

      Cancer is not a fungus fool.

  23. So if these rats mutate... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    A team of scientists from Joseph Fourier University in France

    So, if these rats mutate into something horrible... would we call it a fourier transformation?

  24. So my bill is measured in rats now... by neorush · · Score: 1

    So I only need (3200 watts x 1,000,000uW) / 6.5uW = 492,307,693 rats to power my home!

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    1. Re:So my bill is measured in rats now... by neorush · · Score: 1

      In fairness I get it, this is a great break through for low power devices if you could power them with sugar from your own blood. Very cool.

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    2. Re:So my bill is measured in rats now... by fractoid · · Score: 1

      And your username is 'neorush', which seems appropriate for someone commenting on a story about (a) powering electrical gadgets with mammals, and (b) doing so using a 'sugar rush'. :)

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  25. A message from Apple Computers by Torodung · · Score: 4, Funny

    Remember: You will not be able to change the batteries on your iRat. There are no serviceable parts inside.

    We'll be getting more of this magical product to market, as soon as Steve finishes playing his iPipe.

    If your kids go missing, don't worry, Think Furry (TM)

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    1. Re:A message from Apple Computers by Hurricane78 · · Score: 1

      as soon as Steve finishes smoking his iPipe.

      There, fixed that for ya.

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    2. Re:A message from Apple Computers by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 1

      We'll be getting more of this magical product to market, as soon as Steve finishes smoking his iPipe.

      FTFY.

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  26. It's funny to watch by Tibia1 · · Score: 5, Funny

    rats undergo a series of scientific experiments through the ages. They'll be the first to get neural implants that highly increase cognitive function. They'll be the first to connect to the internet directly through the brain. Aliens might assume they are more intelligent than us on first glance. Sitting around reproducing, reaping the rewards of science while humans do all the gruntwork...

    They have been planning this from the beginning.

    1. Re:It's funny to watch by gmrath · · Score: 2, Funny

      "What are we going to do tonight, Brain?"

    2. Re:It's funny to watch by Ironlenny · · Score: 1

      It is common knowledge in the rest of the galaxy that humans are only the third smartest lifeforms on Earth. The fact that you still haven't figured that out is pretty belgium if you ask me. (Apologies to Mr. Adams)

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    3. Re:It's funny to watch by Angst+Badger · · Score: 1

      They'll be the first to connect to the internet directly through the brain.

      They already have. Where do you think all those duplicate stories come from?

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    4. Re:It's funny to watch by Caraig · · Score: 1

      That's a rather egregious use of the word 'belgium,' don't you think?

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    5. Re:It's funny to watch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Douglas Adams beat you to the punch. We are of coarse the third most intelligent race on the planet. The first being white mice. You forgot that they have managed to turn off some of the aging genes in mice and rats so we are also talking immortal super mice and rats. Next thing you know they'll be testing the next gen iPhones on the little buggers.

    6. Re:It's funny to watch by Ironlenny · · Score: 1

      Nothing is to egregious for belgium.

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    7. Re:It's funny to watch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With the oceans filling up with oil, the second most intelligent species is about to leave... I do believe there is a "Goodbye and thanks for all the fish" in our near future.

    8. Re:It's funny to watch by Jesus_666 · · Score: 1

      Either that or they will invent their own take on the automobile.

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    9. Re:It's funny to watch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And then they try to take over the world.

      Pinky: What are you going to do tomorrow night, Brain?
      Brain: The same thing we do every night, Pinky.

  27. el chief by el+chief · · Score: 1

    Combined with a form of fusion the machines had found all the energy they would ever need

  28. The Ratrix. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lets use these rats instead. Crispin Glover can be the villain.

  29. Why just blood sugar? by Alwin+Henseler · · Score: 1

    Anyone consider the possibility of a device that not only produces energy from the body, but also uses up glucose? A device that conceivably could both help eat up Glucose and POWER a MONITOR to help see how the diabetic is doing??

    Forget monitor, just a bio-fueled sensor that beams readings to an external display device (like your BlueTooth-enabled cellphone?). But: I think you need a good reason to implant any foreign object into the body. I can appreciate the urge if you're a diabetic that would benefit from regular blood-sugar monitoring. But if you're going to implant a sensor for that, why not a sensor that measures a much larger set of interesting blood levels? And at that point, it could be interesting for anyone that wants to know how his/her own body is doing, cold-hard-measurements wise.

    Imagine a sort of miniturized chemistry-lab-on-a-chip (I'm guessing there are already some suitable examples in existence) that's inserted in a strategic location. To signal you things like: "now would be a good time to eat a potassium-rich food item", "you're just within the legal limit on your blood alcohol", etc. etc. etc. besides watch your glucose level. If application for diabetics drives this forward: good for you.

    1. Re:Why just blood sugar? by MichaelSmith · · Score: 1

      How about a device which directly filters bacteria out of the blood stream? Or a remotely controlled robot which can eat out the interior of an otherwise inoperable tumor?

    2. Re:Why just blood sugar? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      filtering blood is incredibly difficult. That's the kidney's job anyway.

      If filtering could eliminate pathogens, there would be no blood-borne diseases.

      Tumor-eating robots are also a bad idea. Anything it can do, can be done in surgery.

      This is for monitoring devices and maybe small chemical pumps. Very small pumps, since once inserted it will be hell to refill a tank.

    3. Re:Why just blood sugar? by Jesus_666 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yeah, it sounds nice on paper but that's 0.6 Essence and 8,000 Nuyen you're looking at, chummer. Sure, if you rely on DocWagon to save your hide that display might just give them the time to do so but if you catch a bullet you don't need a chunk of cyberware to tell you you're bleeding. Well, unless you're a chrome junkie with a pain editor, in which case the 0.6 Essence ain't an issue anymore.

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    4. Re:Why just blood sugar? by Dekker3D · · Score: 1

      i think you win this thread. or article. or whatever. most interesting suggestion so far.

      the chemistry-lab-on-a-chip thing could make people far healthier than they are now. they'd know exactly what they need, which could probably tone down food cravings. also, the alcohol monitor function would be great for bartenders and police, although it might be tampered with pretty quickly for any real alcoholics.

    5. Re:Why just blood sugar? by Santanya · · Score: 1

      Came for the SR reference, did not leave disappointed. :D Its the same thing that was my first thought!

    6. Re:Why just blood sugar? by Mister_Stoopid · · Score: 1

      Tumor-eating robots are also a bad idea. Anything it can do, can be done in surgery.

      Exactly! Why use a non-invasive method that could precisely remove every cancer cell with minimum collateral damage when you could hack the patient wide open and rely on the surgeon's eye to decide what gets removed!

  30. a pile of dead rats by laptop+loveer · · Score: 1

    Yeah, but how about the quality of the cell?

  31. Hmmm.... by girlintraining · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Despite all my rage, I am still just a rat in a... battery?

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  32. release them energy by floatingrunner · · Score: 0

    can we loose weight from this?

  33. trap for excess blood glucose? by harley78 · · Score: 1

    Or a "cure" for Diabetes 1 while powering your iPod like device etc..? If you could relieve the bloodstream of excess glucose in diabetics(I) w/o supplementing insulin(or much less), that's green energy, right? Not trying to be cold hearted; but -any- energy conversion that helps will be good sooner that later...

  34. The Ratrix. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hopefully soon! NYC would be a good place to start.

  35. All for me to browse /. by masterwit · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If one rat generates 6.5 microwatts, this current computer requires 650 watt psu, that is ~100 million rats to power my computer without a display...give or take other factors not-considered. Additionally, a single rat consumes lets say hypothetically 200 calories a day (I couldn't find a real number). That means I would need 20 billion calories to power my computer for a day off rats. If the average nuclear power plant produces roughly 1000 MW, and if that energy could be converted to calories to feed rats, that means that a nuclear power plant could only feed enough rats to power 85,000 machines.

    That retarded example above, even if the efficiencies were improved and the calories needed per rat were reduced, tells me that that this is not a very efficient way to generate power. I'll stick to other methods for now...
     
    Disclaimer: Yes this is bad science, yes this is bad math, yes sig figs were ignored, yes technology can improve into the future, yes my sources are Google search results, rabble rabble rabble...

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    1. Re:All for me to browse /. by masterwit · · Score: 1

      Oh forgot, to add to the perspective (however skewed), 1000 MW powers ~1.5 million 650 watt PSU's... I think. This whole analogy is ridiculous.

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    2. Re:All for me to browse /. by Black+Gold+Alchemist · · Score: 1

      If one rat generates 6.5 microwatts, this current computer requires 650 watt psu, that is ~100 million rats

      Rats!!!

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    3. Re:All for me to browse /. by thasmudyan · · Score: 1

      The efficiencies aren't going to stay that low. Since the basic reaction is enzymatic, we can assume a great deal of eventual efficiency once this is scaled up. (At this point the question remains open when we'll be ready to make devices that actually perform the entire conversion of a glucose molecule into water and CO2.)

      Taking myself as an example, I eat about 2000 to 3000 kcal worth of stuff every day. I really need about 1000 of it, the rest is just used by my body to predispose me for an especially early death. Let's be conservative and say that most of us could spare 1000 kcal/day that could be converted into electrical energy. This equates to roughly 4000 kJ of energy. Distributed over 24 hours, that would mean a sustained power output of 46 W, easily enough to power quite a few personal electronic devices. It's enough to power a MacBook and a cell phone.

      Also keep in mind that the power requirements of implanted (or closely worn) devices are generally much lower, especially once direct retinal projection technology takes off which is the point where all those power-hungry displays become obsolete.

    4. Re:All for me to browse /. by RMH101 · · Score: 1

      This is a really interesting idea. Seems kind of crazy that we need parasitic devices to stop us over eating ourselves to death, but looking around the western world it'd seem a perfect fit. A Macbook powered by Big Macs!

    5. Re:All for me to browse /. by Linker3000 · · Score: 1

      Damn - I first read that as 'direct rectal projection technology'. The mind (and rectum) boggles!

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    6. Re:All for me to browse /. by masterwit · · Score: 1

      Taking myself as an example, I eat about 2000 to 3000 kcal worth of stuff every day. I really need about 1000 of it, the rest is just used by my body to predispose me for an especially early death. Let's be conservative and say that most of us could spare 1000 kcal/day that could be converted into electrical energy.

      That is really interesting, being that I have little knowledge in electronics, this sparks another question for me. If we can create (ideally speaking) an "enzymatic reaction" as you call it to produce electricity using glucose, could we perhaps extend this to some other applications like sewage treatment or uneaten food at restaurants - surely there is a good bit of "fuel" here? (Or maybe I do not understand the scope of these enzymes)

      On another note, I just looked up retinal projection as I am not too familiar with it. I mean this in humor, but it is pretty neat that theoretically speaking in the future a device may exist that is powered from my body to display an image in my retina that could be used to create an augmented reality...of course begging the question again on how we really define reality: maybe enhanced vision through sensors is not too far away...

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    7. Re:All for me to browse /. by thasmudyan · · Score: 1

      It may be a bit crazy, but consider that we don't invest as much energy as we used to in physical labor. I think it's quite a fitting use for this excess energy, since our bodies want to absorb it anyway we may as well put it to good use. There is, however, one small problem: the glucose metabolic pathway is only one of many, and it consist of several systems working in a chain. To actually get the full amount of energy out, we need to look a little deeper into replicating the natural processes our bodies use. But this is definitely a promising start!

  36. Rat power... by JLangbridge · · Score: 1

    Great. Now future cars are going to be sold as having x rat-power, instead of x horse-power...

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  37. Next thing you know... by questionsaddict · · Score: 1
    and we'll be charging our cellphones by plugging them to our....

    bellybutton.

    definitively, the bellybutton

    (there was a pun there, but i forgot what it was)

  38. Side effect... by c0lo · · Score: 1

    That the end of the hamster wheel as we know it.
    Pity of all the effort, science and passion others put into it... So long to you, deep and hamster-wheel inspired phylosophy of life...

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  39. Oops, give me back the sign please. by DigitalReverend · · Score: 1

    Ahh I see after reading through the thread a 4th time that you may be right. When I read the ggp, I read he was going through his pockets looking for some candy to keep the device one. But if he was going through hit pockets looking to turn on other devices to use up excess glucose, then that indeed would be hyperglycemia. My apologies.

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    1. Re:Oops, give me back the sign please. by rpresser · · Score: 0, Troll

      See, the traditional way of burning up excess glucose is called EXERCISE.

      Fraking Complicator's Gloves, everywhere.

  40. I can see it now by EEPROMS · · Score: 1

    Dan "sheesh John you are a pig today, slow down" John "been a busy day, had to recharge my laptop and mobile phone of my Persocharger so now I am starving" Dan " heard Rachael got booked into a hospital because her glucose levels crashed when she forgot to take a mains cable on holiday for her vibrator" Both laugh

  41. have implant?? by capo_dei_capi · · Score: 0

    scientists from Joseph Fourier University in France have successfully implant biofuel cells into rats

    Son, I'm disappoint.

  42. Juicy Bars? by Unka+Willbur · · Score: 1

    Aachi and Ssipak, here we come. Do you want your Juicy Bar? Then you know what to do.

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  43. Pinky and the Brain by FaytLeingod · · Score: 1

    Pinky: "Gee, Brain, what do you want to do tonight?" The Brain: "The same thing we do every night, Pinky—try to take over the world! I finally have the power to do it "

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  44. To hell with glucose... by Genda · · Score: 1

    Figure out a way to build a device the releases the hormones and enzymes needed to trigger lipolysis into the blood stream and then burn the free fatty acids to make energy. The benefits would be immediate.

    1. 1. For starters fat has more calories than sugar i.e. more energy per unit mass.
    2. 2. Keeping LDLs and Triglycerides in the blood stream low, by burning them up would prevent hundreds of thousands of heart attacks.
    3. 3. Life expectancies would skyrocket.
    4. 4. You could get to your target weight by simply generating power for you home and office appliances.
    5. 5. You would save tremendous amounts of energy being generated by power plants, reducing the environmental load on society.
    6. 6. Fast food and it's promise to power the modern world, would become a gift to the society instead of a curse.

    Of course I'm not certain I could deal with a world full of lean and mean techno-geeks :-)

  45. Make humans into batteries by Shugart · · Score: 1

    The Matrix is comming true! Now our machine overlords can make batteries out of humans!

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  46. ipad by fazo · · Score: 1

    So isteve now has to patent a new technology for his ithing to fight the neverending battery problems. whenever you need to use you ipad you just plug a calble in your.. yeah. user experience.

  47. Now I have a use.... by zymurgy_cat · · Score: 1

    for the 15.4 million rats in my basement. I can use them to power a 100 W light bulb.

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  48. Much likelier situation: by denzacar · · Score: 1

    To signal you things like: "now would be a good time to eat a potassium-rich food item", "you're just within the legal limit on your blood alcohol", etc. etc. etc. besides watch your glucose level. If application for diabetics drives this forward: good for you.

    "I see that you are eating pancakes. Click here to download full version of pancakes."
    "CONGRATULATION! YOU HAVE JUST WON 100.000 pancakes! CLICK HERE TO CLAIM YOUR PRIZE!"
    "You like pancakes? Meet girls who like pancakes tonight."
    * [TRUSTED DOWNLOAD] pancakes
    * pancakes.full.rar
    * pancakes [FULL VERSION]
    * pancakes [HIGH SPEED]

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  49. Sumoishere by Sumoishere · · Score: 1

    This could be very good news for New York City

  50. Vroom! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Gas-powered rats? What's next, turbochargers? How much ratpower does it take to power one of those servers, anyway?

  51. Practical application by Krakadoom · · Score: 1

    So I could power my TV with only 12.000 rats? Groovy!

  52. Nah, politicians are harder. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For them you need to do a hybrid reclamation of all the hot air they spew. A thermal wind farm is what you're looking for.