ImageLogr Scrapes "Billions" of Images Illegally
PurpleCarrot writes "In what must be one of the largest attempts to scrape images from the Web, the site ImageLogr.com 'claims to be scraping the entire "free web" and seems to have hit Flickr especially hard, copying full-sized images of yours and mine to their own servers, where they are hosting them without any attribution or links back to the original image in violation of all available licenses on Flickr.' The site even contains the option to directly download images that ImageLogr has scraped. What makes this endeavor so amazing is that it isn't a case of 'other people gave us millions of infringing images, help us remove the wrong ones,' but one of 'we took all the images on the Web; if we got one of yours, oops!' The former gets some protection from the DMCA, whereas the latter is blatant infringement. ImageLogr's actions have caused a flurry of activity, and the site's owners have subsequently taken it offline, displaying the following message: 'Imagelogr.com is currently offline as we are improving the website. Due to copyright issues we are now changing some stuff around to make people happy. Please check back soon.'"
Isn't this essentially what Google's image search does? The difference is that if you want the full-sized version, Google sends you to the original web site.
Can we just make a rule that any image you post on the internet doesn't belong to you anymore? Anyone with any sense already figured that out a decade ago anyway.
currently offline as we are improving the website
Nay ye scoundrels. Ye hath been slashdotted!
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The web is full of landmines. They're going to download and repost something that someone who has good lawyers is going to demand they remove, and then they'll die... quietly.
#fuckbeta #iamslashdot #dicemustdie
http://www.imagelogr.com/legal
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The problem isn't that they are hosting it, the problem is that they aren't providing origin links. That's where the primary issue is.
Living With a Nerd
Aha, you must mean imagelogr@gmail.com!
Beware: In C++, your friends can see your privates!
If you want something completely under your control, you do not put it online. How hard is this?
...but almost never before.
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I like how they say they are trying to "make people happy" as if it's just some minor bureaucrat the need to appease when it's more like "we flagrantly broke the law and are trying to get out of Dodge!"
Wait...is this a case where anti-copyright people are complaining about someone stealing their stuff?
Where did you see the word "stealing"? All I saw were complaints that a company was illegally copying and reproducing images in violation of copyright law. I'm not sure where you get the idea that the people posting comments here are "anti-copyright" either, although personally I'm in favor of a lot of copyright reform.
I highly doubt that the majority of Slashdot, who are largely developers who rely on copyright's protections for their income, say that copyright should not exist. Software patents, however, are a different matter. Get it right.
It's better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.
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And now my Facebook profile picture ends up on an Anti-Herpes-Drug ad.
With my luck, every female I know will see it.
When people download media that violate the owners copyrights, they at least don't cut the actual copyright notices from the media (movie credits, etc).
Doesn't information want to be free? If you're going to download movies and music without paying, why can't they scrape your images and serve them up to "whoever"?
You mean they don't want imagelogr@gmail.com harvested by bots?
Why wouldn't they want imagelogr@gmail.com harvested by bots?
What's so wrong about imagelogr@gmail.com being harvested by bots?
I really don't understand why they don't want imagelogr@gmail.com harvested by bots.
Can someone explain to me what's so bad about imagelogr@gmail.com being harvested by bots?
Maybe I should write them, at imagelogr@gmail.com, to ask why they don't want imagelogr@gmail.com to be harvested by bots.
imagelogr@gmail.com !
How the fuck do you propose they do that? Should they write over the image with a white font, "THIS IMAGE CAME FROM JOEBLOW.COM"?
Google seems to manage with no trouble.
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How the fuck do you propose they do that? Should they write over the image with a white font, "THIS IMAGE CAME FROM JOEBLOW.COM"?
How about doing it the same way Google does it, with attribution and a link to the original source? Is that too difficult for you to grasp?
This ain't rocket surgery.
And now my Facebook profile picture ends up on an Anti-Herpes-Drug ad.
With my luck, every female I know will see it.
Hey, you're a Slashdotter. Showing up in an anti-herpes drug ad would probably only improve your prospects.
This ain't rocket surgery.
Are you fucking joking?
The first thing to go when ripping a DVD is the FBI warning.
It's useful to have an archive. After five or ten years people won't care about these images any more, and won't have a problem with someone archiving them. Unfortunately, the next five or ten years are the period when these images will actually be available. It doesn't really make sense to wait until flickr doesn't exist anymore to mirror its content.
And come on people, try to think outside of the current month. How ridiculous is it going to look in 20 years that content creators protect their images into extinction because of some by-attribution pissing contest of egos? We should be mirroring everything far and wide; protecting our society's creative output from annoying little people who don't cite sources looks preposterous next to protecting our creative output from disappearing off the face of the earth and being unavailable to our children.
Already people are kicking themselves for allowing content to be destroyed. A large number of silent movies (remember, the silent movie era stretched across decades) are completely lost today; not a single copy exists in the entire world. This is a critical part of our culture for film historians.
Imagelogr.com is an image & picture search engine. We try to index pretty much every picture & image currently available on the free internet. With our powerful search engine finding these images should be fairly easy. We also offer a few image manipulation tools to stand out from the competition.
From the main page. This is pretty funny.
Is that too difficult for you to grasp?
Yes. I am sure it is too difficult for him.
Why is it so hard to only have politicians for a few years, then have them go away?
Keep up that attitude, and we'll put it on a Pro-Herpes-Drug ad.
That's not true. My images took work to produce, and they're for my benefit on my site. Your stuff-- you do with it how you will.
If I want my images archived, it's my responsibility and those that I delegate the responsibility to. If someone else has done this, then they've stolen my work, as in ripped me off.
Should I want to use a license that give rights to someone else, I'll do so. Until then, the decision is mine.
---- Teach Peace. It's Cheaper Than War.
I highly doubt that the majority of Slashdot, who are largely developers who rely on copyright's protections for their income, say that copyright should not exist
Most developers work on custom solutions and programs (providing services), and aren't really benefiting at all from copyright protection.
you are promoting the idea of intellecual property... on slashdot.
good luck with that.
The amazing part is how someone gets enough storage space to store every image on the web.
That sounds expensive to me.
ftfy
The only thing you possibly fixed for charliemopps11 was the mis-perception that you are capable of valid analogies.
Now if ImageLogr was actually moving the images from the 'owners' webserver to their own webserver instead of making a copy, then you would be presenting a valid analogy.
Can we just make a rule that any item you leave in an unlocked house doesn't belong to you anymore? Anyone with any sense already figured that out a millenia ago anyway.
'Can we just make a rule that any item you display to the public might be copied? Anyone with any sense already figured that out a millenia ago anyway.'
ftfy
Down With Slashdot BETA!!! I've been around the corner and seen the oliphant; you can only abuse me from your perspecti
The DMCA is evil! Everything should be free! Copyright infringement isn't theft, it doesn't deprive anybody of anything!
(What? It's my stuff?)
I'll DMCA their arses! That's my stuff! I sell those, you're taking away my living!
Please consider this account deleted, I just can't be bothered with the spam anymore.
Don't forget that Slashdot is also home to a large number of unemployable malcontents who don't like copyright either because they don't like paying for music.
Google brings ImageLogr servers to its knees by scraping images from them. (Details at 11:00)
And a lot of my work is on Flickr.
Well we'll see.
Be yourself and aim high!
Exactly. As a photographer it's my responsibility to archive my negatives/chromes/digital files. I'm certainly NOT using Flickr as an archive. I'm definitely NOT putting print resolution files out there for the world to download either. Generally I'm ok with the average person seeing my image and using it in a non-commercial way, such as a desktop wallpaper or to just enjoy looking at. It's why I put it out there. To be seen and enjoyed. I think the parent is wrong to say that these images won't matter in 5-10 years. Different images will withstand the test of time for different reasons. One good example would be of photos of the Word Trade Towers circa 2000. 10+ years later, and you're not getting another new photo. These guys have effectively robbed photographers of their control over their images and the kiss to go along with this screwing is that you have to ask them to take the images down. That's like some guy stealing my bike and then having to go ask him for it back.
They know what they are doing is illegal. Why else would they use domains by proxy to hide their identity?
The only reason they blocked, ooopp...I mean "Imagelogr.com is currently offline as we are improving the website."
I am curious if their robots actually identified themselves or respected the robots.txt file.
Fight Spammers!
You know nothing of my work, yet you accuse me of stealing. Your assumptions are wildly incorrect. You've used the reply as your basis to blather your inability to grasp professional and personal photography, models and their rights, and the role of objects in photography all in one mad dash that adds the idea of a photography tax. Good Friday for you.
---- Teach Peace. It's Cheaper Than War.
That's not a copyright notice.
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Parent is not insightful; it's a troll. Downloading illegally is not even in the same league as downloading and then republishing without even identifying the author, no matter how much the RIAA/MPAA want you to believe otherwise.
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Keep up that attitude, and we'll put it on a Pro-Herpes-Drug ad.
"Herpes. It's what's for dinner."
Yes, I know, way, way too far.
-Taylor
Actually, not too far from the truth. Do a google image search for genital warts. You know all those spam sites that return "The Best ____" where ____ is whatever your search term was? :) Yeah, they're offering the Best Genital Warts, free shipping, etc. Google's improved their algorithms, but there used to be a ton of spam links in the first two pages of results.
Old screenshot: genital warts image results (SFW).
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http://www.domainlogr.com/imagelogr.php
This should explain everything
Storing != Publishing without attribution.
The site is gone, and this explains why:
http://www.domainlogr.com/imagelogr.php
They were bullsh*tting everyone, almost daydreaming. Nothing was there, nothing was probably going to be there, they apparently didn't have anything like the resources for that sort of archiving.
They got caught in their bullsh*t, and chickened out. Bidda boom.