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Motorola Planning 2GHz Android Phone For Later This Year

rocket97 writes "On Wednesday, at the Executives Club of Chicago, Motorola CEO Sanjay Jha reportedly decided to chat about the relatively near future of the mobile landscape as he sees it — which, in part, includes the ultimate demise of mobile computers in favor of highly-capable smartphones. This being his vision, Jha discussed Motorola's plans for a smartphone with a 2GHz processor — by the end of this year. While Jha did not want to divulge any further information, Conceivably Tech cites another anonymous Motorola executive who was a little more chatty, talking up a device intended to 'incorporate everything that is technologically possible in a smartphone today.'"

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  1. So? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Haven't even the marketing types learned by now.that Ghz is a measure of frequency, not speed?

    1. Re:So? by Pharmboy · · Score: 5, Funny

      Haven't even the marketing types learned by now.that Ghz is a measure of frequency, not speed?

      But it's TWO Ghz! It's rated at TWICE the bogomips, it has to be faster! This is so fast, I can start talking before I even dial the number! Believe me, when it comes to talking on a phone, this faster CPU will make it much, much better!!!!!1

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    2. Re:So? by city · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You still talk on your phone? I mean I guess it has that feaure... my phone's app for that isn't so good though. I do however hardly need my home computer anymore.

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  2. Initial reaction by AdmiralXyz · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Ow, my hand!"

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    1. Re:Initial reaction by FooAtWFU · · Score: 2, Funny

      Initial reaction: "2GHz? What runs on that band? I thought all the normal unlicensed and WLAN stuff was on 2.4Ghz because that whole area of the spectrum was kinda junk and not good for transmitting very far..."

      ah, the joys of telecommunications.

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    2. Re:Initial reaction by dnahelicase · · Score: 5, Funny

      Psh. Noob. I liquid cool and overclock my snapdragon to 4.5 GHz. The battery life is only about 30 seconds but it's worth it to play mobile crysis at 200fps.

  3. 2Ghz what? by h4rr4r · · Score: 4, Informative

    Which ARM variant is it?

    Ghz ain't everything.

    1. Re:2Ghz what? by space_jake · · Score: 2, Funny

      Burn! (no really)

  4. Motorola Has Crappy UI by darkmeridian · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I had the Razr and the Moto Q. It seems like Motorola has the crappiest and most confusing user interfaces ever. If they were loading pure Android, that'd be great. However, Moto customizes the OS with something called "MotoBlur." I assume that this would be a crap firmware/UI. This would prevent the latest Android OS from being used. Also, a two GHz processor sounds great but the impact on battery life will probably outweigh any benefits in a smart phone.

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    1. Re:Motorola Has Crappy UI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      on the other hand Motorola Droid is stock Android

    2. Re:Motorola Has Crappy UI by Darkness404 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Owning a BackFlip, I've had to use MotoBlur, it isn't as bad as you think. All MotoBlur really lets you do is add in different widgets with Facebook, Twitter, etc. but you can be like me and not even put in that info and not use MotoBlur and its pretty much like stock Android (only there is all that AT&T crap...)

      In fact, MotoBlur isn't too bad because its supposed to work like a free version of MobileME, letting you remotely track/deactivate your phone should it be stolen.

      The main problem with MotoBlur is like every other UI addition it means that it takes forever for them to port new versions of Android to it.

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    3. Re:Motorola Has Crappy UI by pitchpipe · · Score: 2, Funny

      It seems like Motorola has the crappiest and most confusing user interfaces ever. If they were loading pure Android, that'd be great. However, Moto customizes the OS with something called "MotoBlur."

      What's wrong with that? It does exactly as the name implies, it 'blurs' the clarity of the user interface.

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    4. Re:Motorola Has Crappy UI by Rennt · · Score: 2, Insightful

      HTC don't hate their customers. You are just confused about who their customers are.

      Nexus One: Customer = You = Hackable device
      Desire: Customer = Network Provider = Locked down

      Same phone, different customer requirements.

  5. Carrier problems by Darkness404 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The main problems with this though will be carriers. Its becoming increasingly apparent you can't have 2 year carrier-paid phones and be remotely on the cutting edge. Someone who got the first Android phone released in the US on a 2 year contract still couldn't upgrade it at a lower price. With the iPhone releasing a new phone every year and Android improving by leaps and bounds every other month it seems like, there is just no way that this can't end up with hardware fragmentation because a 528 Mhz Backflip just can't run the same things a 1 Ghz Nexus One or the new Motorola phone at 2 Ghz and the trend for hardware still isn't getting faster and faster, AT&T still only has the Backflip which is really underpowered when compared to the rest of the high end phones which are not on AT&t.

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    1. Re:Carrier problems by h4rr4r · · Score: 4, Insightful

      On smartphones the update period is often 18 months, verizon does that anyway.
        AT&T does not want any phone that would outshine the iPhone, so don't expect any nice android phones there.

      Hardware fragmentation is the only alternative to stagnation. This is no more an issue than people having different age/power computers. Normal stuff like email and web browsers will work for everyone and spiffy 3d games will just like on pc only run on the latest and greatest.

    2. Re:Carrier problems by Darkness404 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      But hardware fragmentation is pretty easy to combat, think about it. If you need more memory, you pay $30 and get a few more gigs of RAM, need a graphics card? Pay $100 and now you have HDMI-out and can play the latest games, etc.

      And even then, it is a lot cheaper to upgrade PC hardware than smartphones. A new low-end laptop costs $350 and can do everything that a $550 smartphone can.

      I can keep shoving new graphics cards, memory, etc. in my desktop for a good 5-7 years before everything becomes obsolete. With a Smartphone the most I can upgrade is putting in a new MicroSD card.

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    3. Re:Carrier problems by rreyelts · · Score: 2, Informative

      Sprint has something called "premiere" status. It gives you the traditional 2-year phone discount for a contract renewal at an accelerated 1-year rate. Getting premiere status is just a matter of having a qualifying mobile plan, which is pretty easy to meet when you have a smartphone. (I.E. most, if not all, of their unlimited data plans qualify you).

      Still, I bought the HTC Hero (Android) when it first came out (October '09), and now I'm drooling over the EVO. This is even after I upgraded my Hero to Eclair (Android 2.1). I'm wondering what I can do to convince Sprint to give me the discount now.

      My wife is almost in the exact same boat as me. We bought the newly released Samsung Moment for her at the same time, and she'd really like to upgrade to the EVO. (/me weighs the kids' college tuitions on one hand and the phone upgrades in the other).

    4. Re:Carrier problems by mcvos · · Score: 2, Funny

      What sort of tiny pockets do you have?

      Big enough for a Fujitsu Tablet, apparently.

  6. Highly capable smart phones? by 0123456 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So we're going to be carrying around phones the size of laptops? Personally I'd rather carry a phone that's just a phone, and a laptop when I need one... it's bad enough that you can barely find a phone without a camera anymore, for those who aren't allowed cameras where they work.

    Obviously one day human/computer interfaces are going to reach the point where they're more efficient than a keyboard, a decently-sized LCD display and mouse, but I can't see that happening for a long time yet.

    1. Re:Highly capable smart phones? by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 4, Informative

      Basic phones are getting rarer, but they aren't that hard to find. I found this article a few minutes ago, supposedly updated today:

      http://reviews.cnet.com/best-basic-phones/

      Oddly, the top entry has a camera, a goof on their part.

      The thing is that people that reject the cameras are a small enough market that it might not be worth giving much attention to.

  7. Power locked away by Microlith · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I wonder if this device will end up like the Milestone and pretty much all other Android-based Motorola devices, locked down via TrustZone to prevent the user from actually doing what they want with it.

    But I suppose that's the price you pay when patronizing companies that treat the end-user as the enemy.

  8. Re:Perspective by h4rr4r · · Score: 4, Informative

    This is not a fair comparison. Any core2 is going to stomp to death any ARM clocked at 2Ghz, in floating point it won't even be worth comparing. Ghz ain't everything. This may get these phones into the upper p3- lower p4 levels of performance for non-floating point operations.

  9. Not from Apple == Do not want by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Specifications are useless without the design and the status. My equation is simple. If Apple makes it, it is worth buying. If anyone else does, no thanks.

    Think Different.
    Think Better.
    Think Apple.

  10. Right, because there are never trade-offs... by divisionbyzero · · Score: 5, Insightful

    in engineering. You can always have everything you want. I'm surprised the world hasn't been perfected yet. :-/ Come on, something has to give somewhere. This announcement is worse than vapor. It's vapor that can never exist. Lame.

  11. Get the title right by alta · · Score: 2, Funny

    Why does it have to be android? I read the summary, nowhere does it say android. Maybe moto already has a deal to license iOS.

    Maybe the subject could read "Moto to make 2Ghz iOS phone by the end of the year" Someone's assuming it's android, aren't they?

    Take "Android" out of title to be accurate. :p

    Yeah I know... it's probably android. I'm just in a bad mood ;) And no way apple would license.

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  12. This is going to be about as useful as 300+dpi by Overzeetop · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Sure, there will be niche, but I think we've just entered the penis measurement realm here. Personally, I'm going to be impressed when one of these devices can be charged once a week, not every night.* 2GHz will be nice at times - don't get me wrong - but I'm more interested in how little power it will take when in an active sleep state, and how well it will throttle back for background apps. This is no better than that stupid, non-standard 640x960, too-small-to-be-useful screen that Apple is putting on their new phone.

    Perhaps Adobe should figure out how to make flash less processor intensive, rather than having to beef up every mobile processor and suck the battery dry to play video/games with poorly optimized code.

    All apologies to the seventeen developers who plan on using their new android phones as their primary workstation.

    *Yes, both my iPhone and my HTC Fuze can last more than a day, but two days is really pressing your luck if you find you really need them towards the end of the second day.

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    1. Re:This is going to be about as useful as 300+dpi by AresTheImpaler · · Score: 4, Informative

      here's a pic of the 300+dpi screen compared to anon 300+dpi iphone:
      linky
      I know that it's not as amazing that apple wants to make it sound, but the pixel density is awesome and would help a lot on applications that have lots of text. Hell it's great for pictures too.

  13. Why? by Overzeetop · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What could you possibly be doing on a 4" screen that requires multiple cores? Are you running a folding program? Massive game platform?

    Hell, there are a total of three things I might be doing "at once" on a phone - listening to streaming (or onboard) music, browsing (whether it be web, contacts, reading, whatever) and sharing an internet connection with someone else. Everything else that's running in the background is essentially timer or interrupt based (alarms, calendar, notifications) and takes practically zero cycles (relative to the billion per second we currently have).

    I'll be honest - I'm rarely doing more than two things at once on my desktop. I leave programs open so I can switch quickly, but even the non-multitasking iPhone saves the state of the program when it "exits" so you come back to right where you left off.

    I'm missing where I would even want two processors eating at my battery life, at least until there's a really pressing reason for it.

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