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Motorola Planning 2GHz Android Phone For Later This Year
rocket97 writes "On Wednesday, at the Executives Club of Chicago, Motorola CEO Sanjay Jha reportedly decided to chat about the relatively near future of the mobile landscape as he sees it — which, in part, includes the ultimate demise of mobile computers in favor of highly-capable smartphones. This being his vision, Jha discussed Motorola's plans for a smartphone with a 2GHz processor — by the end of this year. While Jha did not want to divulge any further information, Conceivably Tech cites another anonymous Motorola executive who was a little more chatty, talking up a device intended to 'incorporate everything that is technologically possible in a smartphone today.'"
Haven't even the marketing types learned by now.that Ghz is a measure of frequency, not speed?
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Which ARM variant is it?
Ghz ain't everything.
I had the Razr and the Moto Q. It seems like Motorola has the crappiest and most confusing user interfaces ever. If they were loading pure Android, that'd be great. However, Moto customizes the OS with something called "MotoBlur." I assume that this would be a crap firmware/UI. This would prevent the latest Android OS from being used. Also, a two GHz processor sounds great but the impact on battery life will probably outweigh any benefits in a smart phone.
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The main problems with this though will be carriers. Its becoming increasingly apparent you can't have 2 year carrier-paid phones and be remotely on the cutting edge. Someone who got the first Android phone released in the US on a 2 year contract still couldn't upgrade it at a lower price. With the iPhone releasing a new phone every year and Android improving by leaps and bounds every other month it seems like, there is just no way that this can't end up with hardware fragmentation because a 528 Mhz Backflip just can't run the same things a 1 Ghz Nexus One or the new Motorola phone at 2 Ghz and the trend for hardware still isn't getting faster and faster, AT&T still only has the Backflip which is really underpowered when compared to the rest of the high end phones which are not on AT&t.
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So we're going to be carrying around phones the size of laptops? Personally I'd rather carry a phone that's just a phone, and a laptop when I need one... it's bad enough that you can barely find a phone without a camera anymore, for those who aren't allowed cameras where they work.
Obviously one day human/computer interfaces are going to reach the point where they're more efficient than a keyboard, a decently-sized LCD display and mouse, but I can't see that happening for a long time yet.
I wonder if this device will end up like the Milestone and pretty much all other Android-based Motorola devices, locked down via TrustZone to prevent the user from actually doing what they want with it.
But I suppose that's the price you pay when patronizing companies that treat the end-user as the enemy.
This is not a fair comparison. Any core2 is going to stomp to death any ARM clocked at 2Ghz, in floating point it won't even be worth comparing. Ghz ain't everything. This may get these phones into the upper p3- lower p4 levels of performance for non-floating point operations.
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Specifications are useless without the design and the status. My equation is simple. If Apple makes it, it is worth buying. If anyone else does, no thanks.
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but 2 ghz! reference
in engineering. You can always have everything you want. I'm surprised the world hasn't been perfected yet. :-/ Come on, something has to give somewhere. This announcement is worse than vapor. It's vapor that can never exist. Lame.
Why does it have to be android? I read the summary, nowhere does it say android. Maybe moto already has a deal to license iOS.
Maybe the subject could read "Moto to make 2Ghz iOS phone by the end of the year" Someone's assuming it's android, aren't they?
Take "Android" out of title to be accurate. :p
Yeah I know... it's probably android. I'm just in a bad mood ;) And no way apple would license.
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Sure, there will be niche, but I think we've just entered the penis measurement realm here. Personally, I'm going to be impressed when one of these devices can be charged once a week, not every night.* 2GHz will be nice at times - don't get me wrong - but I'm more interested in how little power it will take when in an active sleep state, and how well it will throttle back for background apps. This is no better than that stupid, non-standard 640x960, too-small-to-be-useful screen that Apple is putting on their new phone.
Perhaps Adobe should figure out how to make flash less processor intensive, rather than having to beef up every mobile processor and suck the battery dry to play video/games with poorly optimized code.
All apologies to the seventeen developers who plan on using their new android phones as their primary workstation.
*Yes, both my iPhone and my HTC Fuze can last more than a day, but two days is really pressing your luck if you find you really need them towards the end of the second day.
Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
T-mobile will allow if you buy the phone outright, they let you pay for it over 20 months though at 0% interest. If you buy it subsidized you will be forced to get a data plan. T-mobile unsubsidized is the way to go with them, you save the difference in the first year.
it would be stepped down to 512 or fewer MHz almost all of the time
What could you possibly be doing on a 4" screen that requires multiple cores? Are you running a folding program? Massive game platform?
Hell, there are a total of three things I might be doing "at once" on a phone - listening to streaming (or onboard) music, browsing (whether it be web, contacts, reading, whatever) and sharing an internet connection with someone else. Everything else that's running in the background is essentially timer or interrupt based (alarms, calendar, notifications) and takes practically zero cycles (relative to the billion per second we currently have).
I'll be honest - I'm rarely doing more than two things at once on my desktop. I leave programs open so I can switch quickly, but even the non-multitasking iPhone saves the state of the program when it "exits" so you come back to right where you left off.
I'm missing where I would even want two processors eating at my battery life, at least until there's a really pressing reason for it.
Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
Personally, don't need a camera, but I would like:
1. The phone to be bigger. I'm thinking 50% bigger than a blackberry.
2. Be mostly touchscreen, but still have some actual buttons
3. Drop rated. I'm mean to phones.
4. BIG battery - part of the bigger size
5. Larger antenna - I hang out in low signal areas
6. Bluetooth - won't normally use the phone's microphone/speakers, but use a BT headset most of the time.
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I mean, for a phone the least important spec is how fast the CPU runs. Since phone use is much more graphical, I am more interested in what the GPU is doing.
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Keep in mind the process shink to >45nm is coming later this year; that will get us to these faster speeds as well as improved power consumption. Think Pentium 4 vs later procs for an example of this in action.
I'm wondering if Android and Android apps are ready for dual-core platforms. A 2gHz single core phone may be a better option than a dual 1gHz core, depending on that situation. If not, I'm sure next year's big Android release (2.4?) should be ready for it, since those dual-core Qualcomm SoCs are already shipping. Plenty of time for a big announcement at near year's Google I/O. Or maybe Gingerbread will do this later this year?
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Geez. That'll burn a hole in your pocket faster than your Apple iFund (the money with which you purchase iProducts).
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Support for flash is available under Android 2.2, as is running apps from external storage. External storage has always been accessible for media, caching, etc. It would be pretty hard to find a modern phone chipset out there that doesn't support 3D acceleration of some sort, particularly on something as high end as a 2GHz chip. Can't comment on the document editing - there's definitely apps out there for it, but I'd rather work with something closer to a full-sized keyboard.
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I'm a software developer that works remotely. The rest of my group is thousands of miles away.
I spend a fair bit of time reviewing or planning code. Email/texting is useful for many things, but sometimes you just need to call them up. The bandwidth for multi-way discussion of complicated ideas is far greater with voice than text.
I'm guessing they're going to take a 1st gen Droid, gut it, install a monster battery in the case, then attach that to the back of the new phone just to power it for more than 3 hours.
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Yeah. A battery powered P3-class chip. I'm really upset about that.
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Only in non-floating point. Floating point is going to be around p1 or worse.
1. The iPhone supported HTML5 first (So what, somebody had to)
2. You are jealous that you don't have flash on your iPhone.
3. You are jealous that you can't do wireless tethering on your iPhone so you complain about 3G speeds (which are going to be really slow for you because AT&T sucks)
Basically, Google is still coding its way to parity with WinCE and iPhone OS. Each and every update
Last I checked, WinCE does not support HTML5 or wireless tethering unless you install third-party software. I've been using wireless tethering on my Droid for the better part of the last 6 months using a third party app. If you want to compare features of an operating system you should compare the features without considering third party applications unless they are bundled with the OS.
With the addition of HTML5 support, Android has left Apple far behind as far as built-in features go. It was ahead of the iPhone before this release, but this put the nails in Apple's coffin.
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I'm guessing this 2GHz processor is required to run all those bad flash games that have been ported using Adobe's dev tools.
I've never picked up a phone and thought "wow this phone is too slow", the network's 3G data connection is what always slows things down.
Motorola CEO Sanjay Jha reportedly decided to chat about the relatively near future of the mobile landscape as he sees it -- which, in part, includes the ultimate demise of mobile computers in favor of highly-capable smartphones.
This guy obviously doesn't do most of his own actual work, but rather has some flunkies standing by to translate his ideas and words into actual documents. Smartphones will never replace laptops, unless they get a larger screen - say around maybe 12 inches - and a closer to full-sized keyboard, and maybe a mouse pad. I know I can edit documents and spreadsheets on my smart phone, but I really don't want to.
Now, I'm interested in his ideas about flying cars...
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Hey, tech dudes!!!
Get to work on batteries. Don't give a fuck about a phone that can do everything, since that means a couple hours battery life.
Give me phone that can do everything with a battery that lasts at least 8 hours with everything running.
Until then, stfu
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1. People are running 2.2 right now and have that I thought.
While more GHz is nice because if offers more processing power what people really care about is what it can do. Having more power for the sake of more power is just dick measuring, features are what sell products.
Personally I would love to get my hands on an android phone that can play any multimedia I throw at it. I want to be able to download 1080p-720p video like I usually watch on the desktop, and be able to watch it on my smartphone without this transcoding nonsense (come on Dell put the Streak's 5" screen to work).
I know that the Archos 5 can do it, but it seems they dropped the ball on the rest of the system.
No, the int operation is always faster, but the right hardware can make the float operation not such a slow dog.
I do however hardly need my home computer anymore.
Then you, like most people, were never doing anything actually useful with your home computer in the first place.
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He's probably talking about the upcoming dual-core Snapdragon processor, underclocked from 1.5GHz to 1GHz to save on battery. I really hope the industry doesn't start multiplying GHz by core counts.