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Nerds Still More Likely To Get Bullied
trashbird1240 writes "Reports on a recent meta-analysis of bullies and victims found that bullies and victims have similar personality traits, but that bullies tend to do poorly in school, as opposed to those who get bullied. Both bullies and victims are poor social problem solvers, but they resort to different tactics to handle their social ineptitude. To me this represents a huge leap forward in understanding nerd psychology."
That makes me feel so much better about being beaten up.
You means those with little physical prowess and poorly developed social skills are often victims to those with pent-up anger and limited intellects? My god. This is quite a revelation?
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Work out. A lot. Throughout middle school and high school, I was a huge geek (and dressed like one)...but I was also huge. In high school, at only 5'6", I weighed around 200 pounds, and could lift what the varsity football team lifted in the weightroom (and, in some cases, even more.)
I was a dork, but no one dared fuck with me. A good thing, too...I had no idea how to fight :p
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No, I'm still mad that the jock who beat me up banged the girl who sat next to me who let me hold her comb. I protected that comb like it was a baby. I cleaned it, I bathed it, and she wouldn't go to prom with me!?!? Then I found out I went an all boys school... talk about awkward.
In other news... the sky is blue, and the sun is hot.
So basically, if you can't develop social skills you do what every other animal does: Become a predator. And if you fail at that, you're dinner.
FTFA:
Victims share much of same, negative attitude, conflict in the family.
It looks as though the victims are the other side of the same coin.
And what's not mentioned in the article is how the ramifications of bullying stick with someone for the rest of their life - there the "mousy ones", the ones without "self confidence", the ones that "don't fit in", etc....
It wouldn't surprise me the least if many of the permanently unemployed are part of this group. So, I think it costs society too.
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July 4, 1776 - September 11, 2001
We should just issue handguns to everyone over a certain GPA... That seems like a good, solid, American solution to this bullying problem.
That the problem is that people are so hard-wired to find social ineptitude a problem.
There are times where I wouldn't want to hang out with people because I didn't like the people. At one point (it was between grade 8 and 9) I realized that I could be whoever I really wanted to be, and was not relegated to any kind of social outcast or nerdy clique for the rest of my days. I went out, bought some clothes, got a haircut, and emailed someone I didn't usually hang out with, and asked if they wanted to go Skateboarding. I - however - had never been great at skateboarding. However, this new friend of mine took my motion as a kind gesture and proceeded to teach me a bit so that I could hang out with him and his friends more. He understood that I had wanted to get out of any antisocial tendancies I might have had and wanted to have fun with more friends. Obviously, he was not the bullying type.
However, after a year or so of this, I began to miss the old things. Playing LAN Starcraft till 5 am, reading Fantasy Novels, and programming. Things I never had time for when there was a party that weekend, movie night at a friends house, or hanging out after class. Eventually, I went back to my old tendancies, and I really didn't care if I was labelled a nerd because I liked being alone a bit more.
I think they call them "channel ops" or "moderators" depending on the context.
What does this mean, bullies not knowing how to interact are pent up with rage, and take it out on others. There’s one problem with this bullies are very good at reading people. Quite often they can bully under every bodies nose without arousing suspicion. They even have good mechanisms to handle tense situations (like being investigated), they can even lie effectively under these tense situations. How do you think they can get away with it.
I was the typical introverted high school nerd (5'4 at the time), and had a 6'5" upper-class psychopath following me around and finding new ways to harass me.
I talked to my principal over it (God bless you Roger Hood!). He told me next time it happened, kick his ass and he (the principal) wouldn't punish me.
A few days later at PE we were playing soccer, and whenever I had the ball he would "accidentally" kick me in the leg as hard as he could. For days, it felt like a knife every time I put weight on that foot. Hurt so bad it took my breath away.
Two days later I spotted him in the hall. I kicked him in the jewels, and laid him flat on the ground. I proceeded to spend the next 3 minutes kicking and punching him in the balls, the sides, the head, anything I could hit. I didn't feel any pain in my foot at all during this. Eventually he was bawling so loud that the girls in a nearby classroom came out and rescued him (and had the gaul to ask why I was picking on the poor psychopath and being such a mean person).
Two things happened: the psychopath transferred out of the school a week later, and *no one* ever messed with me again.
I wish we could all get along. But some whack jobs only understand the language of violence, and you have to be willing to speak their language to teach them a lesson.
put on your robe and wizard hat...
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I'm not even sure what popping a girl's bra strap means.
It means you put all your stats into Dexterity.
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The grey uncreative mass is neither smart nor dumb. It packs up like wolves and feeds on the dumbest among itself to feel minutely superior. This causes violent outbursts in the weakest of the mind since its the only way for the feeble minded to protect their deteriorating selfimage. The smart ones are also rejected by the pack. The highest minds seem odd and incomprehensible to the pack and need to be made apart from the maingroup to keep it coherent. While the pack dwells happily in its dull mediocre harmony, the lowest of the mind try to attract the interest of the pack by attacking the other outcasts, the high minds. The smartest ones should somehow make it seem profitable for the pack to guard them or just endure since the relieving outcome is that the high minds shouldn't have any incentive to attract the pack, who are just the right kind of average consumers for the next vc backedup startup to exploit :)
The kids that got picked on were the small kids with napoleon complexes and would seek out fights.
I really can't blame the small kids. Size matters in this society. I don't remember if it was Crick or Watson who said this, but when asked if they were for genetic engineering of children, they responded with this (to paraphrase):
Ninety percent of CEOs are over the height of six feet. A man who's five four and a woman who's five foot even may want something a little more for their kids.
His point being that tall people have an edge, of course - not that every parent want's their kids to be CEOs.
I once worked for a guy who insisted that he got where he was by hard work. He was 6' 3", handsome Italian guy who was also a Yale football star who graduated with a degree in Economics - I don't know how well he did. Anyway, business opportunities just came to him - yes, he was a multi-millionaire. I saw his books. He was always telling me that I need to develop some "self-confidence". Easy for him to say.
When Dave Chappelle was on the "Actors Studio", he kind of chewed out a white guy about the opportunities he got because he was white and he probably never even realized what they were.
I understand. People are basically primates. The taller you are the better. The whiter you are the better.
It's not blatant. It's just how folks react towards you on a subconscious level. Blacks do it to other blacks - ever hear of the "brown paper bag" rule?
Here's an example that's a little more conscious: hot chicks. Everybody kisses the ass of the hot chick.
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July 4, 1776 - September 11, 2001
No that would be opening the bra strap with her facing you. Popping the strap is generally considered clumsy, but a sign of someone who maybe spent his points everywhere but wis or dex.
This is actually interesting from an anthropological perspective. Most pack mammals use a form of mock combat to establish position with the pack. They fight until one individual is defeated, then the winner takes the higher position in the pack hierarchy. This same behaviour is common among children (and some adults, although the 'combat' is typically less physical - adolescents typically do it by trading insults), and is incorrectly diagnosed as bullying.
When two animals from different pack meet, the combat is more serious. The loser must be completely defeated, rather than just back off. When you see this behaviour in humans, it is real bullying. The aim is not to establish dominance within the pack, because the aggressor does not see themselves as being in the same pack as the victim, so does not have the evolved responses to avoid permanently damaging members of the same pack.
I only ever encountered the first kind of conflict at school, but I responded as if it were the second kind, which is probably why I never had a problem with bullying. It sounds like you had a similar reaction.
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No that would be opening the bra strap with her facing you. Popping the strap is generally considered clumsy, but a sign of someone who maybe spent his points everywhere but wis or dex.
I keep telling you people charisma is not a dump stat!
I have a friend who put all his points in dexies and now hes like really nervous and energetic and he dont stop talking and moving around all the time and hes like really active I dont think dexies are as good as you think and he certainly doesnt get to touch boobs.
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