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Nerds Still More Likely To Get Bullied
trashbird1240 writes "Reports on a recent meta-analysis of bullies and victims found that bullies and victims have similar personality traits, but that bullies tend to do poorly in school, as opposed to those who get bullied. Both bullies and victims are poor social problem solvers, but they resort to different tactics to handle their social ineptitude. To me this represents a huge leap forward in understanding nerd psychology."
That makes me feel so much better about being beaten up.
It's pheromones!
So basically, if you can't develop social skills you do what every other animal does: Become a predator. And if you fail at that, you're dinner.
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You means those with little physical prowess and poorly developed social skills are often victims to those with pent-up anger and limited intellects? My god. This is quite a revelation?
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Work out. A lot. Throughout middle school and high school, I was a huge geek (and dressed like one)...but I was also huge. In high school, at only 5'6", I weighed around 200 pounds, and could lift what the varsity football team lifted in the weightroom (and, in some cases, even more.)
I was a dork, but no one dared fuck with me. A good thing, too...I had no idea how to fight :p
Living With a Nerd
No, I'm still mad that the jock who beat me up banged the girl who sat next to me who let me hold her comb. I protected that comb like it was a baby. I cleaned it, I bathed it, and she wouldn't go to prom with me!?!? Then I found out I went an all boys school... talk about awkward.
In other news... the sky is blue, and the sun is hot.
We should just issue handguns to everyone over a certain GPA... That seems like a good, solid, American solution to this bullying problem.
Damn, I'd hate to work where you work.
There's no -1 for "I don't get it."
That the problem is that people are so hard-wired to find social ineptitude a problem.
There are times where I wouldn't want to hang out with people because I didn't like the people. At one point (it was between grade 8 and 9) I realized that I could be whoever I really wanted to be, and was not relegated to any kind of social outcast or nerdy clique for the rest of my days. I went out, bought some clothes, got a haircut, and emailed someone I didn't usually hang out with, and asked if they wanted to go Skateboarding. I - however - had never been great at skateboarding. However, this new friend of mine took my motion as a kind gesture and proceeded to teach me a bit so that I could hang out with him and his friends more. He understood that I had wanted to get out of any antisocial tendancies I might have had and wanted to have fun with more friends. Obviously, he was not the bullying type.
However, after a year or so of this, I began to miss the old things. Playing LAN Starcraft till 5 am, reading Fantasy Novels, and programming. Things I never had time for when there was a party that weekend, movie night at a friends house, or hanging out after class. Eventually, I went back to my old tendancies, and I really didn't care if I was labelled a nerd because I liked being alone a bit more.
I think they call them "channel ops" or "moderators" depending on the context.
What does this mean, bullies not knowing how to interact are pent up with rage, and take it out on others. There’s one problem with this bullies are very good at reading people. Quite often they can bully under every bodies nose without arousing suspicion. They even have good mechanisms to handle tense situations (like being investigated), they can even lie effectively under these tense situations. How do you think they can get away with it.
Still busy coughing back up my own glasses.
I was the typical introverted high school nerd (5'4 at the time), and had a 6'5" upper-class psychopath following me around and finding new ways to harass me.
I talked to my principal over it (God bless you Roger Hood!). He told me next time it happened, kick his ass and he (the principal) wouldn't punish me.
A few days later at PE we were playing soccer, and whenever I had the ball he would "accidentally" kick me in the leg as hard as he could. For days, it felt like a knife every time I put weight on that foot. Hurt so bad it took my breath away.
Two days later I spotted him in the hall. I kicked him in the jewels, and laid him flat on the ground. I proceeded to spend the next 3 minutes kicking and punching him in the balls, the sides, the head, anything I could hit. I didn't feel any pain in my foot at all during this. Eventually he was bawling so loud that the girls in a nearby classroom came out and rescued him (and had the gaul to ask why I was picking on the poor psychopath and being such a mean person).
Two things happened: the psychopath transferred out of the school a week later, and *no one* ever messed with me again.
I wish we could all get along. But some whack jobs only understand the language of violence, and you have to be willing to speak their language to teach them a lesson.
Interesting interview on NPR a few weeks back on a woman (who had been raped as a teen) who had studied middle eastern terrorists and came up with the thesis that many had been seriously sexually abused as children in the training camps. Pointing out that the common thread with terrorists and other people who went postal or Columbine was that they had been subjected to some form of grave humiliation and didn't really have a support group or other form of outlet.
Not excusing their means of retaliation, but it was interesting to draw the connection between humiliation and people who eventually snap violently. If the world had less humiliation going around and bystanders who are complicit with it, we'd all probably be better off, bullies and nerds alike.
put on your robe and wizard hat...
CS: It is all sink or swim...oh and did I mention there are sharks in that water?
I'm not even sure what popping a girl's bra strap means.
It means you put all your stats into Dexterity.
Linux, you magnificent bastard, I read the fucking manual!
The grey uncreative mass is neither smart nor dumb. It packs up like wolves and feeds on the dumbest among itself to feel minutely superior. This causes violent outbursts in the weakest of the mind since its the only way for the feeble minded to protect their deteriorating selfimage. The smart ones are also rejected by the pack. The highest minds seem odd and incomprehensible to the pack and need to be made apart from the maingroup to keep it coherent. While the pack dwells happily in its dull mediocre harmony, the lowest of the mind try to attract the interest of the pack by attacking the other outcasts, the high minds. The smartest ones should somehow make it seem profitable for the pack to guard them or just endure since the relieving outcome is that the high minds shouldn't have any incentive to attract the pack, who are just the right kind of average consumers for the next vc backedup startup to exploit :)
Let the word go out of the new understanding between Nerds and Bullies. No longer let them be enemies. Indeed, they are as the same flesh, and today they have become brothers under a common cause. Let the norms now tremble before the combined might of the Nerds and Bullies, hereafter known collectively as the Outcasts. Their powers of intelligence and strength have at last combined in a mighty aliance.
No that would be opening the bra strap with her facing you. Popping the strap is generally considered clumsy, but a sign of someone who maybe spent his points everywhere but wis or dex.
Investigate Columbine and you'll find Eric and Dylan were badly bullied, including specifically by some kid who went by, I think the name was, "Rocky".
Humiliation can be a big part of it. More fundamentally the issue is feeling devalued. Ruin someone's sense of self-worth and they become a serious danger.
No that would be opening the bra strap with her facing you. Popping the strap is generally considered clumsy, but a sign of someone who maybe spent his points everywhere but wis or dex.
I keep telling you people charisma is not a dump stat!
I have a friend who put all his points in dexies and now hes like really nervous and energetic and he dont stop talking and moving around all the time and hes like really active I dont think dexies are as good as you think and he certainly doesnt get to touch boobs.
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REGARDING:
"To me this represents a huge leap forward in understanding nerd psychology"
The statement above indicates that the writer has limited understanding of the issues or the problems they present.
It is interesting that even those who purport to be interested in psychology exhibit such overt bias to the issues being studied.
The trouble here is that once we pigeonhole the individuals as 'bully' and 'nerd' we create powerful image stereotypes which
undermine examination of more subtle forms of abusive behavior. Thus abuse goes unnoticed and unaccounted because the
social group is looking for the stereotype rather than the reality.
In fact, the very act of using 'naming' to qualify one group of people as outside the stereotypical norm is, in itself, a form of bullying.
This is because 'naming' is commonly used to dehumanize the target and desensitize the social group to further targeting of the victim.
It is common for people who have suffered abuse to turn abuse outward against others and inward in forms of deprecation and self destructive behavior.
This can provide even more ammunition to the abuser who, seeing that the victim(s) are making light of the abuse, or worse participating in it,
feels that it's actions are in some way normal and justified. The actions become socially acceptable because the abused has/have validated it as a norm and so has everyone else.
This is the problem with terms like 'nerd', 'geek', 'bully', 'nigger', 'fag', etc.. The words are just words but the intent, how ever masked, is the same.
The intent is to marginalize and control possibly to victimize and exploit people for gratification. The names mask the issues of abuse and helplessness.
There is a great deal of institutionalized exploitation of technical people in our society. For some reason even
the technical people seem to fall for this and don't recognize when it is happening.
(ie: not getting paid for overtime simply because this makes I.T. somehow not cost competitive with shoveling gravel [??!!])
People should try to avoid using grouping or stereotypical association when describing events. The results compound and
create an environment that is just sad and unjust for everyone.
You're not a geek or a nerd. You're a skilled human being with only so many valuable hours in life, just like everyone else.
Refuse the name [title ??] and the marginalization that comes with it.