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2010 May Be the First Year YouTube Turns a Profit

eldavojohn writes "Analysts are saying that this year will be the first year YouTube turns a profit. From the New York Times article: 'In the last year, the video site has become a significant contributor to the family business at a time when Google, which makes more than 90 percent of its revenue from text search ads, is seeking a second act. Though Google does not report YouTube's earnings, it has hinted that it is hovering near profitability. Analysts say YouTube will bring in around $450 million in revenue this year and earn a profit. Revenue at YouTube has more than doubled each year for the last three years, according to the company.' Of course a little over a year ago we were being told that YouTube was losing around $1.65 million each day. Regardless, when you pay $1.65 billion for a business, you probably don't expect it to take three to four years before you start making your money back."

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  1. Google looks to the future by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Regardless, when you pay $1.65 billion for a business, you probably don't expect it to take three to four years before you start making your money back.

    This is why google is eating everybody's lunch. Thinking this far is a good thing when you are able to double revenues year over year. Not a bad long run strategy.

  2. Google's in it for the long haul.... by LostCluster · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In the .com error days, people valued money-losing Internet companies as if they would gain market share and be able to raise prices in the future. Most failed at doing that, and the bubble burst.

    But Google has this insanely profitable AdWords business, and therefore can fund a money-loser and work the ads in slowly... which is exactly what they did with YouTube. Look out phone companies, you're next.

    1. Re:Google's in it for the long haul.... by FuckingNickName · · Score: 3, Insightful

      But Google has this insanely profitable AdWords business

      If only the Mozilla Foundation had the balls to include an ad blocker which dealt with Google Adwords, perhaps we'd start to see an Internet funded by people willing to pay for (or share) quality content rather than an Internet funded by advertisers pushing crap to the lazy and easily persuaded.

    2. Re:Google's in it for the long haul.... by easterberry · · Score: 3, Insightful

      ...perhaps we'd start to see an Internet funded by people willing to pay for (or share) quality content...

      Ask the games and music industry how that's working out for them...

    3. Re:Google's in it for the long haul.... by e4g4 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If only the Mozilla Foundation had the balls to include an ad blocker which dealt with Google Adwords

      I like Google AdWords. Well, perhaps it's better to say that I don't dislike them. They are unobtrusive, easy on my battery/processor temp, and occasionally useful. I see no reason to block them.

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    4. Re:Google's in it for the long haul.... by vux984 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I like Google AdWords. Well, perhaps it's better to say that I don't dislike them. They are unobtrusive, easy on my battery/processor temp, and occasionally useful. I see no reason to block them.

      The ads themselves don't bother me. The fact that virtually every website I visit reports to google that I went there does. Sometimes it feels like I might as well be browsing through a google proxy, and just feeding them every url I visit as I go there. This is what they want. And adwords is ubiquitous enough that it almost gives it to them. Add in gmail, youtube, and the other g-services, and google analytics on the backend on a lot of sites that don't have ads and... they are closer than you think.

      I find that offensive. I don't want to be stalked and everything I do recorded by google. And googles reply is essentially... "we're not singling you out" doesn't imrprove my view of it. Just because they are using the technology to stalk everyone at once doesn't change anything... if anything it just makes it worse.

    5. Re:Google's in it for the long haul.... by Ash+Vince · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The ads themselves don't bother me. The fact that virtually every website I visit reports to google that I went there does. Sometimes it feels like I might as well be browsing through a google proxy, and just feeding them every url I visit as I go there. This is what they want. And adwords is ubiquitous enough that it almost gives it to them. Add in gmail, youtube, and the other g-services, and google analytics on the backend on a lot of sites that don't have ads and... they are closer than you think.

      I find that offensive. I don't want to be stalked and everything I do recorded by google. And googles reply is essentially... "we're not singling you out" doesn't imrprove my view of it. Just because they are using the technology to stalk everyone at once doesn't change anything... if anything it just makes it worse.

      You are singling google out though. Every advertising company does this sort of crap. And the battle against any advertising was lost years ago, mainly becuase too many people actually buy stuff as a result of adverts.

      The only thing I try and remember is that the adverts I am bombarded with are used to finance me getting a free service. If Google moved away from an advert supported model they would have to charge a subscription to voder their costs. Since I use Google a lot this would cost me a fortune.

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  3. I'm sure Google knew what they were getting. by FooAtWFU · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's not like Google didn't know what they were getting themselves into. I'm sure they're doing just fine over there.

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  4. Music by MichaelSmith · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I run linux so I can't use itunes, which partly blocks me from buying music on line. Lately if I want to listen to a track I search for it on youtube and watch a video. Once a week I seem to spend an hour or so clicking through links from one video to another. Youtube has a fantastic collection of early Kate Bush demo recordings.

    I bet they charge a lot of money for targeted adds on videos. Google knows my wife wants to buy a new car...

    1. Re:Music by h4rr4r · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Amazon sells pretty much everything too, and 7digital, the company behind the ubuntu music store, is another great choice.

    2. Re:Music by crow · · Score: 3, Informative

      And if you save them, and dump the sound track with mplayer, you usually end up with a nice 128kbps MP3.

    3. Re:Music by SiMac · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And if you save them, and dump the sound track with mplayer, you usually end up with a nice 128kbps MP3.

      Well, you end up with a 128 kbps MP3, but it's not usually too nice because YouTube compresses the hell out of audio. Depending on the source material, parameters used, and your ears, you may or may not care, but it's hard not to notice. I am pretty sure that YouTube does this for a reason.

    4. Re:Music by vadim_t · · Score: 2, Informative

      And they sell their data to spammers, unfortunately.

      I registered some time back with an emusic@domain.com email address (I make a new alias for every website), and regularly get spam mailed to it. And I don't mean emusic advertisements, or even some sort of partner thing. It's viagra and xanax spam.

      I only went as far as getting a trial account, and due to this will never go any further.

    5. Re:Music by Wowsers · · Score: 2, Informative

      it has a linux version.

      Yes, but it's only 32bit, and if you want to install it on a 64bit version, you will be shocked at how much 32bit crap it wants to drag into your nice clean 64bit system..... all for a crummy downloader. I passed at the opportunity to mess up my system more (Skype was bad enough but at least that is useful).

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    6. Re:Music by Kerrigann · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If there's an mp4 HD version of the video, and you dump (not re-encode) the AAC audio it can actually sound pretty good.

      I'm assuming mp4 on youtube is always h.264/AAC, which it seems to be. Sometimes an flv video will also have AAC audio, but it's usually, like you said, compressed as hell.

  5. Profit != Money back by e065c8515d206cb0e190 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I assume that profit is "revenue - operational cost", i.e. "advertising - server farm".

    That's very different from "getting your money back".

  6. Old School Dot Com by hhawk · · Score: 4, Interesting

    While It might be old school dot com to start a business and "try to lose as much $$ as possible" it's clear that Google through YouTube has created something very valued, given the reach and impact YouTube has. What remains to be seen is through Google TV and other technologies can they bring this video from the desktop to the set top?

    Also interesting will be to see if they can get as much corporate content as they already have consumer content. They did do away with Google Video service..

    I would love it if YouTube/Google/Google TV was my one shop stop for searching on video content and then let the technology figure out how best to view it; also figure out the cheapest way. For example I subscribe to HBO on demand but on my cable box when I search for movies they will charge me for watching these movies unless I come in via the HBO interface.. I need a video search service that is looking to minimize my expenses not increase them.

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    1. Re:Old School Dot Com by KimmoS · · Score: 2, Funny

      Google through YouTube has created something very valued

      You must be new to Dot Com 2.0?

      According to Mayan astrology, the data-mining bubble will burst in 2012, resulting in expanded contentiousness regarding privacy issues. That will result in a collapse of the Web 2.0 and Social Media. The majority of all people has at this point lost all their IRL social skills and their ability to interpret exformation in regular IRL social situations == Zombie Apocalypse

  7. Strangly this... by Bobakitoo · · Score: 2, Funny

    Strangly this coincide with the year of linux on the desktop. So it must be due to all the new linux desktop accessing youtube.

  8. Almost there.... by kenrblan · · Score: 2, Funny

    Youtube is just a couple more Bed Intruders away from profitability.

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  9. Odd summary by proxima · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The main point of the article is how Youtube is enabling a shift in how copyright holders deal with unauthorized content. They scan new videos for content matching that provided by content owners and split ad revenue with them. It's certainly less confrontational than DMCA takedown notices, but I imagine it's full of gray areas: what if the video I upload uses 15 seconds of a music video for commentary but is otherwise 9 minutes of my own contribution? Does Youtube still show more-than-usual ads and split the revenue with the artist?

    Is there any way we can reliably well which videos have this revenue sharing? Some things are obvious - official music videos often have more ads and big "VEVO" logos everywhere. But how about these user-uploaded videos?

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  10. Better Odd Than Slashvertisement in My Book by eldavojohn · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The main point of the article is how Youtube is enabling a shift in how copyright holders deal with unauthorized content.

    Disclaimer: Summary author here. Honestly, wasn't too interested in that. YouTube's been auto-recognizing songs and videos through fingerprinting for quite sometime now and making an ad for the song pop up at the bottom of the video because you don't own it. I saw this with my friend's account as early as 2008.

    Neat trick but not really fresh news to me. And you know, I read the article and the only thing that caught my eye was that YouTube might be turning a profit this year. I thought it was more newsworthy than your summary and -- frankly -- I get annoyed and feel like I failed whenever I post a summary and someone screams "slashvertisement" and gets modded +5 Insightful. That really does get to me. So instead of gaping in awe at how awesome they are at scanning your videos, I went with the profit angle. Especially since people have been so mixed on whether or not YouTube was a smart play by Google. Viacom trial lawyer fees aside, it's not a cheap outfit.

    You'll just have to beat me to the scoop next time ;-) good luck!

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  11. The same idiocy by DerekLyons · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Regardless, when you pay $1.65 billion for a business, you probably don't expect it to take three to four years before you start making your money back."
     
    Once again, it's pretty obvious that the summary writer (like most slashdotters) knows roughly fuck all about business. Taking three to four years to start earning your money back is neither new, nor unique to Google, nor even notable.