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Anti-Piracy Lawyers Caught Pirating Each Other

An anonymous reader writes "We would like to think that the lawyers that are prosecuting alleged copyright infringers are practicing what they preach, but it looks like one of the most high profile firms involved in such cases are just as guilty of stealing others' work as those who are downloading illegal media."

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  1. No "creative value" though by siddesu · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Since there is no creative value in the things they lift from each other, it is hard to argue they are "pirating" it. Can I steal a verb they use, and just call it "stealing"? :)

    Also, the general population surely should be held to higher standards than the scum of the earth.

    1. Re:No "creative value" though by Barrinmw · · Score: 4, Funny

      I dunno...according to apple, all words beginning with i belong to them.

    2. Re:No "creative value" though by cgenman · · Score: 4, Funny

      There is only no creative value in their work if you can convince a judge, who once was a lawyer, that what lawyers do has no creative value.

      I've seen some pretty creative lawyers in my day.

  2. "Illegal media"? by John+Hasler · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What the hell is that? And how do you download any sort of media?

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    1. Re:"Illegal media"? by The_mad_linguist · · Score: 4, Funny

      Well, I know CDs are a form of media, as are books and cassette tapes, so clearly "illegal media" must be some sort of way to record hot new blockbusters on disks made of a plutonium-cocaine alloy.

    2. Re:"Illegal media"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Plutonium-cocaine is a hell of a drug.

    3. Re:"Illegal media"? by The_mad_linguist · · Score: 5, Funny

      I hear the kids are saying it's pretty rad.

    4. Re:"Illegal media"? by nacturation · · Score: 5, Funny

      I hear the kids are saying it's pretty rad.

      The kids are certainly curieous about it.

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    5. Re:"Illegal media"? by mikerubin · · Score: 3, Funny

      No mod points - sorry
      would someone kindly mod this "funny"?

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    6. Re:"Illegal media"? by euxneks · · Score: 5, Funny

      What the hell is [Illegal media]? And how do you download any sort of media?

      Well, according to dictionary.com, Media is the plural of medium, which is, as we all know, "a person through whom the spirits of the dead are alleged to be able to contact the living". Thus, "Illegal Media" are illegal shaman immigrants. I'm guessing "download" would be to make them carry lots of stuff? I guess making them work isn't that bad..? Unless they start channeling me-maw, then you're in for a world of tongue lashings.

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  3. Ouroboros by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    We should encourage this: we can hope they'll fight each other to death, and we can disbar the survivors.

    1. Re:Ouroboros by nacturation · · Score: 5, Funny

      We should encourage this: we can hope they'll fight each other to death, and we can disbar the survivors.

      And, for good measure, we can then rebar them.

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    2. Re:Ouroboros by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 3, Funny

      I'd rather they be fubar.

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  4. Re:In other news... by siddesu · · Score: 3, Insightful

    True, but copied fully in accord with the fair use doctrine.

  5. Article has problems with facts by Sierran · · Score: 4, Informative

    The article presents the situation as Andrew Crossley being in conflict with ACS:Law over the use of templates. The problem with that is that Andrew Crossley is in fact the proprietor ("principal?" Don't know the correct term) of ACS:Law, so it would be difficult for ACS:Law to steal his work. To quote WikiP: "The main partner of the company, and its only registered solicitor is Andrew Crossley."

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  6. They probably don't care. by jellomizer · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There is no hypocrisy. Their job is to work with their client and defend their IP. They are not required to be passionate nor they have to personalty believe in it, their job is to defend their clients.
         

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    1. Re:They probably don't care. by sjames · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually, as officers of the court, their job also includes dissuading their client from suing if they don't have good cause (rather than wasting court resources and everyone's time and money). When the client DOES have good cause their job becomes vigorous representation (either as plaintiff or defendant).

  7. Re:Noel Jerry by nloop · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I hate you and I hate your lame attempts at increasing your pagerank. You are the scum of the earth.
     
    Also, your website looks terrible. When I opened it I assumed you linked to the wrong page and that was a domain filler. Really bad graphic design.
     
    Now, kindly go away.

  8. A More Factually Correct Article by Fnord666 · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you want to read about what is actually going on, please see this article. The article linked in the summary is riddled with factual inaccuracies.

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    1. Re:A More Factually Correct Article by opposabledumbs · · Score: 3, Informative

      Except the law is not on their side. This is from an article about this on Wired.com, though, so you're welcome to take it from whence it comes.

      the basic gist of this is that in the UK, where these guys have been practicing, there is no statutory claim to damages, and the lawyers in the UK system in a case like this would usually be able to claim only as much as the retail price of one item in damages. That would mean 75p in the case of a single downloaded music track.

      The law firms are sending letters of demand for much more than this, and sending them to people in financial difficulty - who cannot afford to get legal representation, and who often pay up to make it go away. Hearing about massive damages awarded in cases similar to this in the States probably is a factor.

      The lawyers typically don't go after people who haven't paid, and bring them to court. But one of them is considering moving from the UK to the US just because of the statuary damages angle that RIAA have managed to make law.

      The wired article is here -http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/10/the-legal-blackmail-business/ - so everyone can ignore that one, as well, and write whatever comments they feel.

  9. Re:You Don't say by Again · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Possibly some of us who frequent slashdot are hypocrites. But to label everyone who visits slashdot as a hypocrite is quite arrogant.

    There are in fact quite a few different individuals who post here and people tend to post in articles that interest them. Some days it seems as though nearly every user hear uses nothing but Linux. Other days it seems as though everyone is talking about the benefits of Windows 7. You see? There is no one opinion here. And to claim that there should be is ridiculous.

  10. Re:You Don't say by Jedi+Alec · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Don't you find it hypocritical that this thread like most threads do nothing but trash lawyers. But what profession do they automatically run to when they are pissed off over a specific subject and THEIR reading of the law?

    No, not really. Because the organization that typically pursues violations of the GPL etc. in the US is the EFF and they have a very solid reputation for trying to solve matters in an amicable fashion first. Only when the other party categorically refuses to play ball do they start involving the justice system.

    There is a group of people that feel they have the right to download anything and everything on the planet. There's also a group of people that supports open source and doesn't appreciate it when the license under which it is distributed gets violated. Both of these groups can be found on Slashdot, but that does not mean they consist of the same individual people.

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