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Newspaper Endorses the Candidate It's Suing Over Copyright
An anonymous reader writes "Remember Righthaven? The copyright troll owned by the owner of the Las Vegas Review-Journal? You may remember, then, that Righthaven had sued Nevada Senate candidate Sharron Angle for posting LVRJ stories on her site. At the same time, LVRJ has been having its execs talk about how copyright infringement is no different than garden variety theft. So ... doesn't it seem a bit odd that the LVRJ is endorsing the very same candidate that it sued for such 'theft'?"
*giggle* I just tooted *giggle*
...to politics!
In soviet russia the government regulates the companies.
. So ... doesn't it seem a bit odd
Corporations aren't just immortals, they're schizophrenic immortals. With 'human' rights.
Try to keep this straight.
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That's not odd, that's how it's supposed to work. The editorial staff should be independent from the business side of the business. It's only after being exposed to Murdoch-media for too long that you think the owner should be the only one deciding the newspaper's opinions.
It's also possible that the owner is - shock! - able to disagree with someone on one issue but agrees on others. Or maybe he doesn't put his own interest ahead of what he thinks is good for society. OF course if you want to be cynical, maybe he wants the candidate to win so she can pay whatever he's suing for.
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Just a statement on how bad the opposing candidate is.
Awesome!
nothing to see here.
The same people that complain when a newspaper's editorial board is not sufficiently distanced from its straight news department will complain when the two departments are at odds with one another. Some people just like to complain.
This reminds me of Fox News accusing Fox news co-owner of terror funding.
Partly because it's a newspaper, partly because it's such a big discordance, this makes the news, but it's not unusual for there to be disagreements and differing agendas within companies. And I suppose with lawyers involved, as I suppose there are in this case (didn't RTFA of course!), all bets are off.
...the future crusty old bastards are already drinking the Kool-Aid.
I only read newspapers for the hilarity of their inaccuracy and the absurdity of what they leave in and what they leave out.
About twenty years ago when my children were small and we lived in a bad neighborhood, there was a gang war right down the street. Probably more than 50 rounds were fired; it sounded similar to strings of firecrackers going off (the timbre was different, of course). An innocent bystander was shot and crippled as he tried to get his kids inside. I watched a police car go airborne as it crossed the railroad tracks ate a very high rate of speed. Two days later the crack house the gangsters lived in "mysteriously" burned to the ground.
Not a word of this made the paper, although "news" of petty vandalism and burglaries and so forth were.
A few weeks ago a school bus carrying fifteen kids ran a red light and was hit by an SUV, and missed being hit by inches by another vehicle. This happened less than two minutes before I walked into the bar at that intersection. Several police cars showed up, then another school bus came by, parked in the biker bar's* parking lot and the kids got on it and left. There were no injuries, but the SUV's air bags deployed and it was damaged pretty severely.
The next day's paper carried stories about fender benders, petty vandalism, and residential burglaries. Not a word about the school bus wreck or the school bus driver running a red light with kids on board.
And they wonder why their circulation continues to drop.
* Google maps is out of date; the place is called "Scooter's" now.
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Endorsing Sharron Angle is simply just a survival tactic for the newspapers. The gaffes, foibles, unfounded and inaccurate claims she makes almost every time she opens her mouth guarantees that the newspaper will be in business for at least the next 6 years.
... We wanted them to ask the questions we want to answer so that they report the news the way we want it to be reported." --Sharron Angle, during an interview with Fox News Channel's Carl Cameron, Aug. 2, 2010
"We needed to have the press be our friend
Spoken like a true statesperson.
He who knows best knows how little he knows. - Thomas Jefferson
The alternative would be to endorse Harry Reid. Given those choices, it doesn't matter what Angle stole, she still looks like the better candidate.
AntiFA: An abbreviation for Anti First Amendment.
In this case it's "we'd rather have a different candidate fronting for the party that's going to vote for our corporate interests, but we got this one and we still want our tax cuts despite the fact that it will deepen the recession".
"Las Vegas Review-Journal endorses garden-variety thief for office!"
Politics is about greed, corruption, power, influence, and nepotism.
And there is never anything we, the people can do about it, right?
It is just too bad we have to sit here and take it like serfs/slaves/peasants/rabble while our betters scheme and do the mysterious things they do in their castles.
If only there were a better way.
Oh well.
Before anyone goes and calls this "ironic," please remember the definition of the word. Thank you, Alanis Morissette.
Someone is supposed to say that, right? Whenever a textbook example of irony comes up? Someone idiot to act like everyone else is stupid?
Whale
...brain...
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Learning HOW to think is more important than learning WHAT to think.
By posting this story in a tone of mild outrage, what are we trying to say? People should never support a candidate they have a disagreement with, no matter how much they disagree with the OTHER candidate? People should never sue someone of their own political party, no matter how much they are affronted? Seriously, why does this story exist? How childish does your though process have to be to see this as anything other than mildly ironic.
I see your point, but "in Soviet America, the companies control the government"
~KingAlanI
Ideally, the newspaper should be reporting the news and not endorsing anybody.
Gone!
So they think a thieve as themselves called him is the best candidate for the citizens?
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Is editorial independence such a foreign concept to you 'mericans ?
Religion is what happens when nature strikes and groupthink goes wrong.
Ideally, the newspaper should be reporting the news and not endorsing anybody.
Except when it's in the editorial section where this endorsement happens?
Why?
A paper is a business, and businesses endorse candidates all the time. Nothing wrong with that at all.
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They're trying to get her to repost the endorsement so they can file an additional lawsuit.
[Insert pithy quote here]
As long as the staff of the paper is not doing the endorsing, that is fine. Many times the editor uses the editorial section to endorse a candidate which is just as bad.
Newspaper staff shouldn't be using the newspaper as a vehicle to spread their endorsements.
Gone!
Because I'd like to be able to trust a news reporter. If they are obviously partial, then that calls their reporting into suspicion.
Angle is a verbally-spastic nutball, with little logic, even less grasp of facts, and nothing to recommend her other than a knowing look while she spews phrases that lack any connection to reality.
You left out that she is not Harry Reid. I believe that most of those who plan on voting for her consider that to be her greatest asset.
The truth is that all men having power ought to be mistrusted. James Madison
Maybe if she gets the job she'll earn more cash for them to take in the suit?
What recession? If you're one of the rich people funding this "Tea Party" astroturf campaign you couldn't be happier: your company is making record profits, and sinking the country into a deflationary death spiral will make the billions you sucked off the government teat over the past decade worth even more than it already is. Sure, you'll have to move to Austrailia or Canada when the Republican's 2011 budget causes unemployment to jump to 15 percent, just like when they passed an austerity measure in 1937, but that doesn't really matter because none of your money is invested in the US economy anyway.
Most probable: the left hand isn't watching the right
Also likely: editorial staff cares more about other issues that differentiate the candidates (copyright is a very low priority for pretty much everyone except the AAs)
"Who is the Journal of Quantum Physics going to believe?" --Stephen Hawking
Well, that's an interesting idea, but runs counter to how newspapers have been run since there were newspapers.
"Who is the Journal of Quantum Physics going to believe?" --Stephen Hawking
Their lawsuit gives them leverage over her.
If she wins, she gets power.
It's good for business to have leverage over people in power.
As opposed to when their partiality is more subtle? You just take their news at face value then?
Always be suspicious of the reporting. Always. It's all done by partial observers. All of it.
"Who is the Journal of Quantum Physics going to believe?" --Stephen Hawking
You probably ought to get it out of your head that this Platonic ideal - the impartial reporter - ever existed at all.
What do you think, sirs?
I live in the universe where I've read your post twice and you're still talking nonsense.
Bush's tax cuts did nothing to improve the economy and a lot to make things worse for all but the richest in America.
And he's the one who instituted Gitmo, illegal wiretaps, and the war in Iraq.
I'm pretty sure you have no idea why Obama has to keep Gitmo open, no clue why he has to defend the nation against the legal trouble that the illegal wiretaps caused, and probably haven't heard that he's ending the war in Iraq.
So, really, you should be asking yourself if you're in this universe, because your view of it is a lot like how it would look if you were on the outside viewing it through a crystal ball.
Not at all. People who act professionally or who run business understand the meaning of "dont burn bridges." In this case, once the lawsuit is completed and all debts are settled everyone acts like adults and moves on.
No, not really. Everything associated with Sharron Angle is somewhere between Odd and Just Plain Fucking Nuts.
Some mornings it's hardly worth chewing through the restraints to get out of bed.
Huh? Deflationary death spiral? It seems to me with all the printing of extra money going on and being handed out by the Federal government, and also from the price hikes I'm seeing, that we're entering an inflationary period.
Of course, IANAE, but then again I don't trust any of the "real" economists to know what's really going on either.
I think you'll find that the pro-life and pro-death-penalty people usually rationalize it on the basis of innocence. You can't kill innocent people like babies. But murderers, rapists, and (worse) muslims? Go to town.
"Who is the Journal of Quantum Physics going to believe?" --Stephen Hawking
Exactly ... with the religious right, we're not exactly dealing with the most rational people in the world. They're leading the most extremely subjective lives imaginable. And they are close to half the people in the US. It's very scary.
"Who is the Journal of Quantum Physics going to believe?" --Stephen Hawking
Give it a few years, you'll be wishing for that deflationary death spiral.
Have you not noticed the USD making a record low against one currency or another on a daily basis?
Obama the Senator was right to rail against those things.
Obama the President is now stuck having to deal with those things. He can't just evaporate them. Gitmo is a legal quagmire, and moving those people stateside at this point is worse than leaving them where they are. He tried, and got nowhere with Congress on it because it's just too big a pig-fuck.
He stopped illegally wiretapping people, but he has to fight for the nation in the courts because of the illegal wiretaps that Bush conducted. He can't just roll over because that could emasculate the Executive Branch on the powers Bush used incorrectly to cause the taps to happen. Hamstringing the Chief Executive forever because one resident of the office broke the law during his term is a supremely stupid thing to do, buy you'd gladly do it to embarass a guy you just don't like for whatever stupid reason you have.
And he's not following Bush's schedule. Bush never had a schedule. He had a mandate from Iraq, and he was going to find a way around it. The "surge" did not create the stable environment it was supposed to, and McCain, continuing Bush's real strategy, would have used that to abrogate the agreement. Obama got us out. But because Bush's surge failed, the military has been replaced by mercenaries, at even greater expense. It remains to be seen if the instability will stabilize or become a shitstorm again, now that our uniforms are not patrolling the streets daily.
bullshit, libertarians are republicans who like to smoke weed and don't feel like going to church.
My brain hiccupped and I read that as (Odd && Just Plain) (Fucking Nuts), like some kind of bizarre sexual airline snack. Oofda.
"What in the name of Fats Waller is that?"
"A four-foot prune."
No. Schizophrenia (295) is characterized by:
With the debatable exception of (4) catatonia (buildings don't usually move around a whole lot), no corporations I know of exhibit any of these characteristics. Antisocial Personality Disorder (301.7) (ASPD) on the other hand, is very much in line with corporate behavior; necessary for diagnosis, at least 3 of:
Now I'd argue (much to the contrary of the supreme court) that a corporation is not a human being, and as such cannot be diagnosed as one, but I don't think anyone on Slashdot will disagree that most corporations exhibit at least most of these criteria - everything listed here in many cases. Incidentally, this same analysis was run by the documentary The Corporation.
Please have a heart and do not compare the poor souls who suffer from Schizophrenia to the soulless corporations of America.
While there may be no such thing as a totally impartial reporter, this doesn't mean that we have to ignore blatent displays of partiality and it's not a good reason to pretend that the news sources doing them are no worse than the rest.
He can't just roll over because that could emasculate the Executive Branch on the powers Bush used incorrectly to cause the taps to happen.
Which is a Good Thing(tm) for everyone except the current President of the US. If Bush was willing to use his executive powers for really questionable and nasty things, what makes you think other presidents won't be willing to do the same thing?
Which is why we should prosecute Bush for the criminal acts he conducted with those powers.
See, it's wrong to keep a President from having the power to order people to do things. It's also wrong not to hold him personally accountable when he uses that power to get illegal things done.