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Meet NELL, the Computer That Learns From the Net

bossanovalithium writes "Carnegie Mellon University has taught a computer how to read and learn from the internet. According to Dennis Baron at the Oxford University press blog, the computer is called NELL and it is reading the internet and learning from it in much the same way that humans learn language and acquire knowledge. Basically by soaking it all up and figuring it out. NELL is short for Never Ending Language Learner and apparently it is getting brainier every day."

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  1. What no spelling? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Lears? Really?

    1. Re:What no spelling? by NeverVotedBush · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well, that's better than a lot of others that "leer" from the net. ;-)

    2. Re:What no spelling? by Hegh · · Score: 2, Funny

      I was very disappointed to see that it was a misspelling of "learn" instead of "leer." I was quite curious how a computer could leer from the Net...

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    3. Re:What no spelling? by fractoid · · Score: 4, Funny

      Big Brother is watching you.

      And masturbating. Ew.

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    4. Re:What no spelling? by Defenestrar · · Score: 2, Funny
      Maybe it started with Shakespeare? It would be a relief to have a well cultured robotic overlord rather than some leering nymphomaniac robotic overlord... although I suppose, instead of well cultured, we'd might just get get a mad robotic overlord vulnerable to flattery.

      Oh well, when it comes to robotic overlords of any sort I surmise discretion is the better part of valor (play dead and run away)

      It's probably much ado about nothing anyway

    5. Re:What no spelling? by 2names · · Score: 3, Funny

      Chicka pie, chicka bane.

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    6. Re:What no spelling? by bytesex · · Score: 2, Funny

      No it leared to spell from Slashdot's editors.

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    7. Re:What no spelling? by gambino21 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Using your webcam obviously. My computer is a bit of a pervert.

    8. Re:What no spelling? by DevConcepts · · Score: 3, Funny

      Well it is obvious! It found the LOLCats page first!

    9. Re:What no spelling? by tepples · · Score: 2

      Chicka pie, chicka bane.

      Just in case the moderators don't get this, it's a reference to a 1994 Jodie Foster film about a woman who lives alone in the woods and has in essence made up her own language.

    10. Re:What no spelling? by Hylandr · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yea I was just wondering how long it takes for Nell to find 4chan...

      - Dan.

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    11. Re:What no spelling? by GlyphedArchitect · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm just wondering how big the explosion is going to be.

    12. Re:What no spelling? by omarius · · Score: 2

      SPOILER... It was "twin language" if I recall correctly.

    13. Re:What no spelling? by lennier1 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Ever wonder what exactly made SkyNet go off the deep end?

  2. Project Page by eldavojohn · · Score: 4, Informative
    Since the article left more to be desired, you can find the project page here and follow NELL's 'learnings' on Twitter. Latest post:

    I think "Playstation Network" is a #videogame (http://bit.ly/cnJWSD)

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    1. Re:Project Page by samkass · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'll bet it will tell us that the elephant population has recently quadrupled. Seriously... I know people who seem to have been educated solely from the internet and it's not something to aspire to.

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    2. Re:Project Page by CrashandDie · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think "Science Education" is a #politicsissue (http://bit.ly/dbtbg8)

      At least it got that one right.

      http://twitter.com/cmunell/status/27011868576

    3. Re:Project Page by durrr · · Score: 2, Funny

      That goes a long way to explain recent events in the financial sector.

    4. Re:Project Page by Securityemo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Unless, of course, you are a programmer/IT person.

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    5. Re:Project Page by iivel · · Score: 2

      There is some truth to your statement, but there are a number of sites dedicated to scholarly works or reference data. Google scholar is a good starting point for many things, findlaw provides access to court decisions and interpretations, and any number of sites are dedicated to journals and scholarly publications (even in the field of science).

      Now if you're getting to all of your news sources through fark or /. --- yeah, you're out of luck.

      Point being; if you know where to look there are tons of valuable educational and reference resources to be found on the net (didn't /. do a review on an online set of courses not long ago). I've been listening to this series as of late: http://webcast.berkeley.edu/course_details.php?seriesid=1906978371 , though I hear that Harvard has a good set of podcasts available as well.

    6. Re:Project Page by HungryHobo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      As a student I can tell you that there is almost nothing serious to be found in the library. At best, you get pop science books, and at worst the pureed bedlam of a school textbook(amasci.com/miscon/miscon4.html). Real learning simply cannot take place in a library. Sometimes you will come across the odd book, usually written by a geeky expert, but in general the library is a vast intellectual wasteland devoid of substantial content. Just look at the philosopy section.

      which is of course bullshit, just like your statement.

      If you want to learn programming the internet is fantastic for learning.
      Far better than most textbooks.
      there's countless books, journals and various other resources available online in every field and as long as you avoid youtube and the more shitty of forums there's no shortage of good information.
      But go on with your snobbery and go on dismissing everything beginning with www as worthless.

  3. Lears by Mini-Geek · · Score: 5, Funny

    Apparently, it hasn't leared how to spell yet.

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  4. Obligatory sci-fi reference by Treeluvinhippy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Skynet shall be born and herald the age of darkness and war once NELL discovers 4chan.

    I honestly didn't see this plot twist coming.

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  5. "Lears from the net" by pangu · · Score: 4, Funny

    So it flies private jets from the net? Did it order them from Amazon?

  6. It spelled fine by wireloose · · Score: 2, Funny

    NELL was studying Shakespeare sites just a bit ago. NELL finds us slashdotters to be particularly tragic.

    1. Re:It spelled fine by WrongSizeGlass · · Score: 4, Funny

      NELL was studying Shakespeare sites just a bit ago. NELL finds us slashdotters to be particularly tragic.

      Don't you mean pedantically tragic?

    2. Re:It spelled fine by IndustrialComplex · · Score: 2, Funny

      Don't you mean pedantically tragic?

      No. Someone has to care for it to be tragic.

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    3. Re:It spelled fine by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 2, Funny

      NELL was studying Shakespeare sites just a while ago.

      Yes. Further, it will be the best grammar nazi ever.

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    4. Re:It spelled fine by MozeeToby · · Score: 2

      No, you're just being overly pedan-Wait ...I see what you did there.

    5. Re:It spelled fine by omnichad · · Score: 2, Funny

      Don't you mean tragically pedantic?

    6. Re:It spelled fine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      bitches dont know bout my iambic pentameter

    7. Re:It spelled fine by hedwards · · Score: 2, Funny

      Iambic pentameter? Looks more like an iambic nanometer from here.

  7. Sounds very human. by John+Hasler · · Score: 2, Interesting

    This makes NELL more of a rumour mill than a trusted source and once NELL changes a fact to a belief, it stays a belief. It cannot unlearn stuff.

    Very human indeed. Has it found God yet?

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  8. NELL becomes sentient... by digitaldc · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...and turns out to be a dirty old man that is a shopaholic and facebook addict with a petabyte collection of odd digital videos and photos.

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  9. High-Tech sequel of... by Bill_the_Engineer · · Score: 2, Funny

    the movie with Jodie Foster. Nell 2: Rise of the machine In this version, Nell becomes a computer program to continue learning from the internet. Eventually her and her computer host comes learn about the true meaning of life on the web...

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  10. Re:It's lacking the most basic cognitive functions by CarpetShark · · Score: 4, Informative

    Yes, being unable to unlearn seems like a major flaw. The article does say that they had to teach it that Klingons are not an ethnic group, so presumably it can learn simple clarifications like "X is true in the general case of As, but not for instance A22".

    I guess they mean it can't backtrack and figure out that things need to have a more complex model. Say, that weather is a complex global system of wind, sun, mountains, etc., rather than just weather is when it's wet or dry?

  11. Useful, in a way by tibit · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I think it's useful, in a way, for inspiration when writing poetry. When you get stuck, you can look at what Nell has found that relates to your subject. Say, you need help with gentle breeze. You come up with things like "flowers dancing on", or "whispering through". It's like getting all the short-range literary tricks without doing any reading. By short-range I mean it cannot pick up yet on any sort of a longer story built on your topic, but can see interesting word-strings in the short neighborhood of your topic. It seems to pick on word plays, parallels, and such.

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  12. Can She Handle Slashdotting by Bucc5062 · · Score: 4, Funny

    From the Tweet page:
    "# Bio I am a machine reading research project at Carnegie Mellon, periodically tweeting facts I read. Please follow me, and reply with corrections so I can improve!"

    I can just see it now. More and more /.'ers will join into the tweet feed, correcting, grammar, spelling, and beliefs with greater and greater numbers till in one moment, she'll explode into sentient being, or lock up in a /. coma. If she survives the next list of facts may look like this:

    Fact: Natale Portman is grits
    Fact: Things are done in Soviet Russia
    Fact: Aliens own Bases
    Fact; Humans *were* the top species, there, fixed it for you
    Fact: She welcomes your acceptance of her supreme power.

    LOL will flood screens around the world, then the Utopian era begins where humans serve NELL as she brings order and peace to all.

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  13. Re:Here comes the by HungryHobo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    AI has been moving along over the years, it's just that there's never been any huge sudden leap so it's always been tiny incremental steps.

    People want an AI which asks the meaning of life monents after being turned on.
    What they get is AI which is slightly better at gathering data from images or slightly better at catagorizing data from text or navigating around an environment than the last version.

    Also people don't hear about most of the products of AI research.
    It just quietly works in the background handling logistics or clasifying information or gets turned into dry uninteresting tools.

  14. Anonymous fish by js_sebastian · · Score: 2, Funny
    This one is great:

    I think "anonymously" is a #fish (http://bit.ly/9njClc)

  15. Re:The Diamond Age? by atarkri · · Score: 2, Informative

    You're omitting the biggest similarity; in "The Diamond Age" Nell starts as a ~4 year-old girl who educates herself with her "primer," essentially an OLPC on steroids. i.e. The entire book Nell sits and reads her "primer," learning everything she needs to know about her world.

  16. Reality meets fiction - sci-fi refs by rclandrum · · Score: 2, Interesting

    OK, everyone got the Skynet reference which is probably the most well-known and recent and involves computers attempting to destroy humanity (bad computers!).

    But how many of you have ever heard of "The Adolescence of P-1" by Thomas J. Ryan. School hacker codes up a cracker tool, gets expelled, improves it, and lets it loose where it gets out of hand. Humans then attempt to destroy now-intelligent and self-protective software program. (bad software! - nice read)

    Or even earlier, "Shockwave Rider" by John Brunner. Epic hackers creating worms (bad society! - good, but overreaction to the Nixon years)

    Or how about when humans actually *want* to turn over the world to a computer, as in "Two Faces of Tomorrow" by James P. Hogan. They test the concept by installing it in a space station and then attacking it just to be sure they can turn it off if they really want to (bad idea! - but good book and Hogan at his best)

    Those last three were all written in the 70's. Others can likely lengthen this list considerably.

  17. Re:It's lacking the most basic cognitive functions by DarthSensate · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Instead of trying to get NELL to "un-learn" something, I would see if weighted metrics could be applied to multiple tags for an individual record. As the "learning" progressed the weights would favor a particular categorization, but others would still be on record.

      So Klingons as an "Ethnic Group" would end up with a lower metric than Klingons as a "Fictional Alien Species" or "Humanoids" or "animal with bilateral symmetry", etc..

          The weighting mechanism could be as simple as an integer hit count in NELL's matching logic. I couldn't get to the article to read the details so I would guess that the code operates as a neural network at some level, so allowing the creation of weighted links should be do-able.

  18. KNELL realizes IT CAN HAS A CHEESE BURGER! by Phizzle · · Score: 2, Funny

    No worries about it taking over the world, it will get bogged down on 4chan and lolcats.

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