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WikiLeaks Will Unveil Major Bank Scandal
Atmanman writes "When WikiLeaks announced it was releasing 251,287 US diplomatic cables, we all thought we knew what was meant by its earlier ominous words that, 'The coming months will see a new world, where global history is redefined.' It now appears the organization is sitting on a treasure trove of information so big that it has stopped taking submissions. Among data to be released are tens of thousands of documents from a major US banking firm and material from pharmaceutical companies, finance firms and energy companies."
...a lot of people recently said that Wikileaks has become an anti-US organization. We should probably wait and see what they actually release, but perhaps this news shows otherwise? Or is the fact that they are going to release data on US based corporations just going to be viewed as more evidence of an anti-US sentiment?
Palm trees and 8
Expose the corruption and tyranny of our ruling classes for all to see, and let the bastards be damned!
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Now this is the kind of stuff I want to see. I already know basically what the government is doing and how things are going in the wars on the ground, what I don't know is what the pharmaceutical companies and banks have been hiding.
Wikileaks is embarassing everyone who deserves it. I approve.
That wikileaks is exclusively an an ant-US govornment organization and that they no longer do "real whistle-blowing"?
"It will give a true and representative insight into how banks behave at the executive level in a way that will stimulate investigations and reforms, I presume"
While one may not like all the steps taken by Assange, one should give credit for the understatement that the new documents will "stimulate investigations".
Document will say that bankers are crooks.
Life will go on unchanged. They will still get their buy-out.
Carry on.
Are we still going to ask them to stop doing what they are doing ? However with big banks and big pharm involved, I am more concerned about the well being of the individuals who run wikileaks, then if only governments were involved.
...a lot of people recently said that Wikileaks has become an anti-US organization. We should probably wait and see what they actually release, but perhaps this news shows otherwise? Or is the fact that they are going to release data on US based corporations just going to be viewed as more evidence of an anti-US sentiment?
You should probably clarify that you meant anti-US government as they might actually be providing the citizens a lot more transparency than previously thought possible. When a US company is targeted, both the government and the people might be happy -- especially if it's tax evasion or violation of laws. Here's a good snippet when they run down which industries they might have dirt on:
Continuing then: The tech industry?
We have some material on spying by a major government on the tech industry. Industrial espionage.
U.S.? China?
The U.S. is one of the victims.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that everyone would like the offenders of industrial espionage to be dragged out in the open. Especially the United States government.
Anti-US, pro-US, who cares? This is going to get interesting and the knife is going to cut everybody.
I'm really going to break down laughing if Wikileaks hosts dirt on Amazon, their knew hosting provider with EC2!
My work here is dung.
I hope this is about Goldman Sachs!
Messing with multinational mega corporations are an entirely different thing. They might not care or even look at you indulgently when you take pot shots at the government. But come after them, they don't play nice. To put it mildly.
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I hope Assange is as well-protected as he seems to be. He may already have the US Gov't after him, but if it's banks and pharmaceutical companies too, things are only going to get worse.
I really hope some of this stuff makes people stop saying "We hate wikileaks" and start saying "hey thanks for letting us know we were all getting fucked."
The general public needs to be reminded that censorship isn't the answer. It seems to be the only thing they want nowadays.
-Taylor
Worldwide Military budgets: $2100 billion. Worldwide Space Exploration budgets: $38 billion. Really, world? Really?
The blurb makes it sound like this is an imminent release. According to the interview this information won't be released until "early next year".
Better known as 318230.
And what exactly, pray tell, would you do once the corruption and tyranny gets exposed? What are you hoping for? The revolution to begin? Bringing down the 'fat cats' and bringing 'justice' to the 'oppressed'? Okay, fine, heard that all before.
What happens afterwards? Who does the clean-up? Who puts everything back in order? Or, would there be a New World Order? One based on your personal definitions of what is 'Just' and 'Un-Just'? One in which the Wrongs are Righted, the Righteous finally ascend to Their Proper Station, and we all live in a land of Kumbayah under a new benevolent rule?
I'll cut to the chase. Spare me your indignant moral outrage and nihilistic desire to watch the world burn. You're just as bad, corrupt, and potentially tyrannous as those you espouse to hate. The only difference between 'Them' and people like you is that you haven't gotten your turn to be in charge.
Here's to hot beer, cold women, and Glaswegian kisses for all.
So do you have very high impact corporate stuff to release then?
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Will we?
Yes, but maybe not as high impactI mean, it could take down a bank or two.
Yes. We have one related to a bank coming up, that’s a megaleak. It’s not as big a scale as the Iraq material, but it’s either tens or hundreds of thousands of documents depending on how you define it.
Is it a U.S. bank?
Yes, it’s a U.S. bank.
One that still exists?
Yes, a big U.S. bank.
The biggest U.S. bank?
No comment.
When will it happen?
Early next year. I won’t say more.
What do you want to be the result of this release?
[Pauses] I’m not sure.
It will give a true and representative insight into how banks behave at the executive level in a way that will stimulate investigations and reforms, I presume. Usually when you get leaks at this level, it’s about one particular case or one particular violation.
For this, there’s only one similar example. It’s like the Enron emails. Why were these so valuable? When Enron collapsed, through court processes, thousands and thousands of emails came out that were internal, and it provided a window into how the whole company was managed. It was all the little decisions that supported the flagrant violations.
This will be like that. Yes, there will be some flagrant violations, unethical practices that will be revealed, but it will also be all the supporting decision-making structures and the internal executive ethos that cames out, and that’s tremendously valuable. Like the Iraq War Logs, yes there were mass casualty incidents that were very newsworthy, but the great value is seeing the full spectrum of the war.
You could call it the ecosystem of corruption. But it’s also all the regular decision making that turns a blind eye to and supports unethical practices: the oversight that’s not done, the priorities of executives, how they think they’re fulfilling their own self-interest. The way they talk about it.
Yeah, that's why senior administration officials are calling for Assange's head. Because he made it all up.
It's really pathetic when people consider the truth to be political. I think it's far more likely that you're upset that your worldview has turned out to be a lie.
messing with governments gets mixed up in equivalency and nationalism and generates more heat than anything actually useful. iran is already saying wikileaks is an american plot
http://www.presstv.ir/details/153259.html
something that hurts the usa should be a subject of celebration in the iranian government, right? no. because people are so mixed up in their prejudices, any reveal of what a government did or said can always be conveniently reexplained with some creative thinking such that your prejudices are never really examined. whether pro-usa, or anti-usa, your opinion of the usa is completely unaffected by wikileaks, as iranian spin shows
wikileaks clearly shows that the great satan is not the one who hates them and wants their destruction: all their neighboring countries secretly push the usa to topple iran, while those countries say nothing publicly. that's what wikileaks shows. this challenges the narrative of the great satan plotting your downfall, and so proof that the great satan is not a great satan. therefore, wikileaks must be explained away with plots and conspiracies, where julian assange is actually an agent of the CIA. it would be hilarious, if maintaining the prejudicial narrative weren't such a deadly serious effort by those who love, or hate, the usa, for prejudicial reasons. so it's a complete wash: wikileaks has zero effect on the usa's standing in the world, or in the minds of committed pro-usa or anti-usa partisans.
however, the corporations, they need unmasking. a lot of people in the usa have this phony narrative of their poor neighbors and their government being the enemy of their prosperity. the real enemy of their prosperity: corporations. there is nothing wrong with capitalism, but corporatism is not capitalism. corporatism is buying off the government to permanently warp the markplace against the smaller players and to entrench your dominant position in it. the government is not the enemy, corporations are. the greatest enemy capitalism has ever known, in fact, is not communism, but corporatism, in all of economic history, the big players have always warped the markplace in their direction. yet so many fools believe this phony narrative of the government and poor people being the enemy of capitalism, and large corporations heroes, or at worst, harmless victims on the sidelines, of evil government regulations (that are written by those same corporations)
so hopefully, a reveal of how corporations are your real enemy, not your government, might open some foolish eyes, for once, i hope
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
If the media had been doing their job WikiLeaks would not be needed.
But since the media is in bed with government and industry, this is what it takes.
If it ends up that the new leaks target all kinds of banks and companies, then no. If they are all conveniently US banks and companies, then I'd say that lends some credence to the anti-US idea. I mean after all in terms of corporate leaks you have one of three situations:
1) Only the US companies are so incompetent as to allow any information to leak. Any non-US company is an expert at information security, as good or better than a national intelligence agency, and thus has no leaks at all. Ok well that is hard to the point of impossible believe.
2) Only US companies do anything bad. All other companies in the world are perfectly moral and righteous, they don't do anything they would be worried about the public seeing. We know that isn't the case, as a great very public example look at the French banker who got nailed for billions in unauthorized trading.
3) Wikileaks only care about or chooses to publish secrets for US entities, not foreign. This is likely.
So like I said, it'll all come down to what is released. If it is from all over the place, then that is a good sign they probably aren't motivated by anti-US feelings, the US leak was just because they happened to get that information. If everything released just happens to be about US entities, well then I'd say that is a reasonable indication that yes, they DO have an anti-US agenda.
We'll just have to see.
Okay. Why Not Just Release It!?
Wikileaks was a site that just published leaked documents. It still does this. It seems now though that it wants to be considered a major entity in its own right rather than just as an anonymous dumping ground for data. So now we have Julian Assange publicly engaged in self promotion, by revealing himself and Wikileaks pre-announcing its leaks.
It concerns me a little. It does seem to change the nature of what Wikileaks is. Is it a news site that has an explicit agenda, or an anonymous service that releases everything without taking a moral stance?
I don't really care if they're anti or pro American. This is a true Revolution to be remembered in future time. If all these documents are, indeed, real, then we may be watching the true Revolution of Freedom -- the discovery that our democracy has grown to be something riddled with shit and corruption. The question that I pose is: What's next?
/all/, but *most*) democracy isn't working and will not work in the near future. What IS __THE NEXT STEP__?
Democracy is still the best ideal that I believe we have. I am talking worldwide, not just in the US. What is the valid alternative? Alternatives that I often discuss with my friends are alternatives that establish different democratic hierarchies and especially voting restrictions. However, this ideal that I often propose to them is just not feasible for many reasons (mainly: Human non determination, Human misuse of resources, implicit discrimination and violation of human rights). What is our alternative? Where do we go from here? I'm sure many disagree, but it seems to many that most (notice not
For starters, WikiLeaks seems to be going there. Freedom is a must have. Transparency is essential. Not everywhere, as some things must be made secret, but the fear of being discovered -- much like is happening now -- can force people to "behave". This is a true revolution if it gets spread and if it really gets worldwide. We must use this to our well being, we must show people that Freedom is essential and that a Democracy without proper freedom and ethically correct behavior isn't good. That IS the next step -- a Free, Ethically Correct Democracy. Unfortunately, that is the exact ideal that we can't reach, because even losers vote -- and losers can't vote decently. Plus, even if we didn't allow losers to vote, who is to say they didn't stop being losers? Plus, who isn't to say that "non losers" can't be bought or vote wrongly? Who isn't to say that the politicians that "ethically correct people" elect change their position and become "evil"?
The World keeps going forward, but we're walking backwards -- and we don't seem to be willing to go forward...just check the possible comments and troll ratings I'll get instead of a logical and healthy debate.
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YES YES YES. YES. OH GOD YES. OH YEA. FUCK YEA. Please, release this data soon. I want this so bad. Hell, considering how incredibly evil the bank and corporate system in America is on a public level, I am terrified and excited and horny to find out how evil they have actually been being this entire time.
Where is the mod rating for "scary"? Also,
Attacking the U.S. government was dangerous enough, but with the amount of collective money behind the banks, pharma and energy, I sure wouldn't want to be anyone associated with WikiLeaks right now. A ten-million dollar per head contract for these people would be chump change for the companies involved.
Well, to take a third option, what if he's heavily broadcasting his actions for a reason? You know, the US government scrambled around doing damage control in preparation for the cable leak. Maybe this is his way of saying, "Hey, I have this information and I'm going to give you the chance to do something before it hits the fan."
Devil's Advocate to be sure, but considering the goal of this is transparancy, it would mean a lot more if the bank would come clean itself, rather than wait for a third party who claims to have them already beaten.
You are joking, right? Because if not, holy shit humanity sucks and all because of you.
You see, they are releasing data that shows banks have been fucking people over in more ways than the ways they have been doing it publicly. It is like unveiling evidence that shows a serial killer also happens to rape children, eat puppies while they are still alive and kicks kittens for fun, along with baby seal clubbing.
Banks own 60% of the property and wealth in the US. They have been publicly leveraging that massive wealth to drive up the prices of everything they own to sell off, like De'Beers does with diamonds except with shelter, and forcing people into homelessness. If that is their publicly known business model, aren't you curious to find out what they have been hiding?
Where is the mod rating for "scary"? Also,
So far a lot of the stuff I've seen leaked hasn't been particularly shocking. A lot of it covers things people have already known or at least strongly suspected but for whatever reason hasn't gotten the attention it deserves. These leaks simply drag those details out into the light of day to be openly acknowledged and discussed. It seems to me like the media and government officials are making a bigger deal of this than the general public. On the other hand, I also believe that it's entirely possible to cross the line and start causing some real harm, even if it hasn't happened yet.
I don't have a particular good impression of Assange; I get the impression he has too big an ego for his own good. I also have questions about about bias. I think Wikileaks can provide a valuable service, but only if it operates as an equal opportunity offender. There's a real problem if members of the organization can't see beyond personal biases, if they show reluctance in releasing information damaging to their particular worldview, for example. Or worse, they decide they have it in for a particular entity, in this case, the United States. Of it may be a problem that the US isn't nearly as good at securing it's sensitive information as, let's say, China.
I'm placing bets on the bank in question being Bank of America. They're quite despicable, but then that's already well-known which again raises my point of Wikileaks releasing information that's generally common knowledge.
If the documents are sufficient, I wonder how they will continue to spin corrupt financial industry practices as the fault of Obama without actually doing anything useful to stop them. 9/11 spared them from Enron, and if lightning strikes twice...
Here's what concerns me. We have large numbers of anonymous individuals sending information off to some guy who they assume is some sort of hero or on a moral high ground. In actuality we don't know what Assange's intentions or internal agenda is. It would be trivial for Assange to filter information and only display leaks that would damage the country of his choice. Not just at a government level, but at a corporate / economic level. It is impossible to monitor Wikileak's integrity or transparency. Do you think if Mr. Whistleblower's documents regarding Country X are not posted that Mr. Whistleblower is going to go to the established media and complain about that?
Somehow Wikileaks has assumed a level of authority and trust that it has not earned nor that is remotely justified via its internal policies and structure. I have read numerous articles about Assange, and how he wants to be in control of everything and basically tells his "volunteers" to f*** off if they question him or disagree with what he does. He holds all the keys to the kingdom.
Quotes of Assange's like this, from the interview linked in this story, concern me further:
All I can say is it’s clear there were unethical practices, but it’s too early to suggest there’s criminality. We have to be careful about applying criminal labels to people until we’re very sure.
Who is Assange to judge and / or label corporations or individuals? Isn't his role in life to throw static files on a server so other people can download them? Shouldn't the information speak for itself and be analyzed be individuals that know far more than him and his organization? I don't think Assange is the unwilling, unwitting sacrificial lamb that has been thrust into this horrible role. There seems to be an ego to stoke, or at least that is my opinion.
Finally, one last personal nitpick. What the hell does "wiki" have to do with anything? I think he threw that term in there to gain additional trust and ride the coattails of Wikipedia. There is nothing "wiki" about wikileaks in any way whatsoever.
Better known as 318230.
Wikileaks isn't anti-US at all.
Sure, most of the stuff released there puts the US in a bad light. But you know what? Wikileaks didn't actually do any of those things. They just let the world know about it. You think we'd be a better nation if nobody knew about any of this stuff?
Not me my friend.
I'm glad the untouchable people who harm the country I love just might get called to task for the things they've done. The end result will be a stronger (and hopefully more accountable) America.
Weaselmancer
rediculous.
Dude, wake up. Our country (and most others) is run by mobsters, traitors, and diverse sociopaths. In attacking Wikileaks' release of documents showing this corruption and criminality you are defending people and organizations far more damaging to individuals, countries, and societies than Wikileaks can ever be.
What people need to learn is that wikileaks is not the enemy of the United States, it is the enemy of humanity.
That remark is so far over the top, so ludicrous, and so simple-minded that one can only wonder who could possibly make it and why.
I assume this is because documents written in english get more world press.
-- CyberTech
I'm sorry, but having someone steal something and then give it to you doesn't make it "public domain" or "public information", it just makes you an accomplice to the theft.
If it is information about massive fraud and criminal enterprise against the public (and let's face it, that's exactly what it is going to be), it makes you an accomplice to a fucking hero.
"comes out before wikileaks is no more"
I think we can all safely assume that Mr. Assange has a dead man's switch of some sort and the mass of stuff he collected will be sent to the BBC and NYTimes if he somehow "disappears"
so what ?
i dont remember any divine communique, any natural law, any galactic decree that says being 'anti-us' is something bad ? apparently, noone but americans got the memo.
its ok being anti-china, its ok being anti-iran, its ok being anti-whatever, but, somehow, 'anti american' is a no-no eh ?
what amazing level of self-centeredness.
world doesnt revolve around u.s., note that.
in addition, it was the wall street which scammed ENTIRE planet, in a fraud that was unparalleled in history. so much that they sold water vapor to governments, banks, major global corporations, and poisoned the credit supply of the world SO bad that, there is no end to it in sight. because noone can tell poisoned assets from valid ones.
of course its going to be about a u.s. bank. geez.
AND,
wikileaks puts out ALL kinds of shit. its you americans' fault that you ALWAYS check it when there is something involving u.s., and see the front page about u.s. then go about bullshitting how they are anti-us. here, for your convenience, the link to where wikileaks indexes the shit it spurts out. i dont see 'us, us, us' written all over it. it wouldnt be a problem even if it was.
http://mirror.infoboj.eu/
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One of the key parts of diplomacy requires diplomats to be able to give uncensored advice to political leaders that may offend the public or other leaders.
In the long run this may reduce the quality of advice our leaders get which could have tragic consequences. Its the reason why executive
priveledge exists. The most honest president the US has ever had, Grover Cleveland, fought tooth and nail for leaders being able to receive honest
and confidential advice.
A leak is only good think if it serves a legitimate public interest, not merely curiousity. If your intention is merely to cause
embarassment for embarassments sake then youre not a whistleblower.
All I can say it "It's about F'ing time." Go Wikileaks Go!
For years, we have had to put up with our privacy and our rights being stolen. Now we even have to appear naked to fly. Our privacy is always under attack, and yet we are told "it's for our own good" either by the governments that assault us, or the corporations that rip us off and sell our personal data to each other.
FINALLY the time has come that governments and corporations are under the same microscope as the average joe. The internet has become the great equalizer. And notice how governments and corporations bristle at the mere thought that *their* privacy is being invaded, while they continue to casually rape us.
Yes, when it's the governments/corporations that have their privacy assailed, "ohhh the guy is a terrorist" "Assage must be imprisoned" "DDoS isn't good enough for him, hanging's too good for him!", etc..., meanwhile, few are DDoS'ing the RIAA, TransUnion, Equifax, et al.
THIS IS OUR REVOLUTION. And it's about time. Grab your pitchforks. Heads must roll.
If telephones are outlawed, then only outlaws will have telephones.
has been, for some reason, hope-inducing.
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I am embarrassed to call myself an American just because of what the US Government is trying to do... :-(. Can't wait for the next round of leaks :-)
has restored my perspective towards american people.
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The most significant disclosure so far is that China's leadership is fed up with North Korea acting like a "spoiled child". Previously, China was considered to be a supporter of North Korea. Now, confirming the info from Wikileaks, Chinese officials are admitting that China's leadership is fed up with the drama. This leak was a win for both the US and China. It gets the word out that China isn't going to back any stupid actions by Kim Jong-il. without China's leadership having to say so publicly. This helps calm the situation down. That one item outweighs any harm Wikileaks may possibly have done.)
(Here's the best analysis of the Korean situation I've seen in print.)
The thing is that someone has to put themselves out for Wikileaks. Someone has to stand and defend its credibility. By putting himself out there, it's arguable that
he's doing it to ensure Wikileaks continues to be a presence.
I could be wrong though, maybe he is doing this for publicity. What we deem of his actions and what his rationale turns out to be are two different things.
So, they idea is: if a leak makes the US government look bad then it must be the real deal, but if it may serve the US government in some way then we have to suspect that it has been planted?
Nice judgement you have there.
This reminds me of what is going on with the leaks which state that the Government of Israel had notified both the Egyptian Government and the Palestinian Fatah before attacking the Gaza Strip during operation Cast Lead in 2008, mainly against Hammas (and thus making the Fatah look bad to the Palestinians). The international press is giving much more voice to those denying the leak than it gives to leaks which bring discomfort the US government.
This should pose as a wakeup call to everyone - you clearly cannot trust governments, banks, pharamceutical companies or really anyone else. Everyone must be assumed to be untrustworthy until proven otherwise.
And the proof is often 50 years after they are dead. So the message is Trust Nobody.
The second thing is that if the government, banks and other corporations are evil and corrupt maybe we should do something about it? Boycotts are pointless but bombs, arson and executions might get somewhere. The idea would be that if you cannot trust the people with the power and money then they need to be eliminated. Maybe we can find some trustworthy people - or maybe things just need to be restructured in such a fashion so that nobody is required to be trusted any longer.
This is probably another under-30/over-30 sort of battle, but this time there might actually be enough motivation to cause a worldwide revolt against anyone with more than a couple of nickles to rub together. The current US President has presented one possible dividing line between good and evil - $250,000 - but there may a more realistic one that is much, much lower. Sadly for Mr. Obama, it would appear that he is clearly in the evil camp with earnings well above $250,000.
So? Are you ready for the revolution? Are you prepared to dedicate your life (or what is left of it) to eliminating oppression in the world by untrustworthy government and corporations? It sounds like Mr. Assange is clearly going down that road.
So are they ready to abide by the Fort Laramie treaties or do you mean something else?
Be very, very careful what you put into that head, because you will never, ever get it out. - Cardinal Wolsey
Conscience or Ego? There is an old intelligence maxim (that Tom Clancy has put in his books) that the reasons people betray trust, commit treason, and so on are MICE: Money, Ideology, Conscience, and Ego. It is quite a true maxim (hence its endurance).
So what's his motivating factor? Probably not money, it isn't like he's getting rich off this. Probably not ideology either. Possibly, but he doesn't act like an ideologue so he's either not or is real good at hiding it. That leaves just conscience and ego.
Supports claim conscience, of course. He is a moral man doing what he believes is right and necessary, despite the risks. However it could be ego too, he does it because it stokes his ego and makes him feel powerful and important, and attack those who he feels has wronged him in some way.
So what's it matter? Well it matters because that will determine the quality of information that gets leaked, what sort of decision making process goes on. The MICE maxim is not important only in terms of counterintelligence, making sure people don't give up information, but in terms of evaluating your intelligence assets. It is important to understand what motivates them because that will tell you the quality and kind of information you get. They won't tell you everything, and will outright make shit up. Understanding what motivates them can tell you when those things happen.
Same deal applies here. If he is acting out of ego, then the quality and nature of what we get shown will be very different then if he acts out of conscience.
they are exposing kidnappings, tortures, murders, warmongers, bank scammers, fraudsters,
and youre saying 'assange is doing shameles self promotion'.
what the fuck are you on ? and some witless fool modded it interesting ? why ? because some idiot thinks that world governments betraying their countries' founding ideals, kidnapping, torturing people and then threatening ALLIES about it, is not important?
a major bank fraud, of the global scale, extinguishing so many homes and bankrupting families like the wall street scam, is not important ?
just what is your angle ? are you just another right wing nutjob ? you cant handle that some guy does THIS much against your government ? or jealous ?
or, are you a witless moron that cant understand that if he hadnt put himself in the spotlight, he would be already dead by a roadside and noone would know it ?
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In the final analysis, Assange only reports what is. If the politicians of the world can't handle that, the problem is with the politicians , not Mr. Assange.
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Its interesting that there never seem to be any internal Russian or Chinese revelations.
Actually, it seems there are some Russian secrets:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/dailybeast/11208_moscowsbidtoblowupwikileaksrussiansplaybydifferentrules
The libertarian solution to the failures of capitalism is to apply more capitalism til the failures are fixed.
US Gov and others are pissed because they're getting their pants pulled down.
It's a little more like they've been put in a porno scanner at the airport.
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This is about shameless self promotion and nothing more.
Absolute Bullshit. Self-promotion to what end? You even say yourself he will eventually be killed (or "stopped"). So you are saying he is self-promoting to eventually be the target of a murder?
Bank of America has been downright criminal in some of its conduct. I recently refinanced my mortgage and closed all of my accounts just to get from under those clowns. I've suspected that a lot of their dishonest conduct has been common business practice, now I'm sure I'll have that confirmed. Things I've seen happen:
* Deposits delayed to trigger overdraft charges.
* Flat out lied to about my escrow account size. They forced me to pay about $600 to "settle" the balance, then realized they made a "mistake" that took about 8 months to correct, netting me $1100 including $500 I was owed in the first place.
* Steering me into a trap credit card when I wanted a vehicle loan. First payment was a day late and my interest rate exploded.
I swear to God...I swear to God! That is NOT how you treat your human!
Hey Spun, good question.
To answer your question, in my view of the world there IS Justice, and there should be hope of it. The debate between you and BlueLucidFox, and between Rakuen and CheekyJohnson (and touched on by others in this thread - never thought I'd spawn an actual serious, good discussion here) touched on a couple of key elements that I personally believe in: Justice, and Balance.
I believe that Justice must be tempered with Balance (or Mercy, if you will). Yes, there is corruption. Yes, there is evil. And yes, we should always be vigilant in monitoring for, exposing of, and protecting the instruments of our society from those elements. We have to be exact and thorough in our safeguarding, and spend the time and effort to verify if there is corruption/evil, how far has it spread, what must be done to fix the problem, and what preventions do we need to have in place. To do so is hard, and takes time and resources.
However, it is also wrong of people to smear our entire social structure with the insinuation that all those in authority are corrupt (without proof) and then insist on tearing down everything -- and conveniently rebuilding with themselves in charge. At that point, all we've done is exchange the Devil we know for the Devil we don't, and all too often the new Devil is exactly the same as the old-all he did was switch suits. Justice without Mercy leaves us wide open to such actions. It takes Mercy to realize that we don't have to destroy the whole system, just prune the parts that need pruning.
Hope that answers your question?
Here's to hot beer, cold women, and Glaswegian kisses for all.