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PS3 With 3.50 Firmware Jailbroken Without Downgrade

Khyber writes "Hackers: 2 Sony: 0 — that's the current standing score now that the X3 team have successfully performed a jailbreak on the official 3.50 PS3 firmware, allowing homebrew applications and more to be enabled. Here's a video of the jailbreak in action."

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  1. Re:ok .. by xaoslaad · · Score: 5, Informative

    Hard to say; dark, blurry video, with no commentary other than the groans of some mouth breather. All I know for certain is he owns a PS3 and a lighter.

  2. Re:ok .. by SilenceBE · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Yeah Sony shouldn't had removed the "Other OS" option as those hacks are being mostly used for supporting linux on those systems. That is why the whole modchip industry exist, just to cater the linux needs of people.

    It is a shame that Linux is being used as an alibi because (even If I was also mad that they removed linux support) we shouldn't be hypocrites why these hacks in the first place exist... . It even doesn't matter if a Sony product does support linux as the mantra on slashdot is that it is not done to use sony products0 But then again I was thinking the same thing about flash, although when its about the iPad we are pro flash. Pffff sometimes it is really difficult to follow the slashdot party line.

  3. Re:ok .. by hedwards · · Score: 2

    So, the solution then is to not own any consoles? Seriously, Sony isn't any worse in this respect than Nintendo or MS is. At least Sony provided the Other OS option, which neither of the competition did.

    I just wonder if this hack actually works, I remember trying the other ones previously, and they did not work as advertised. Followed the steps precisely and nothing. Wasn't the only one either.

  4. 2:40 minues of my life I'll never have back again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    This video is terrible. Don't bother.

  5. So what does Sony break next? by Sarusa · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So I guess the real question now is what PS3 functionality Sony is going to cripple in the next forced upgrade to try to defeat this.

    1. Re:So what does Sony break next? by noidentity · · Score: 2

      You know, Sony could easily solve this once and for all by just stopping the CPUs. May have some side-effects, but they shouldn't be too bad, at least for Sony.

    2. Re:So what does Sony break next? by geminidomino · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If I tell somebody that I'm going to smack them if they don't stop whistling, and they continue to whistle, who is the person at fault?

      Scary analogy. Have you ever uttered the phrase "Why you make me hit you, baby?"

  6. We should follow the example of Stephen Colbert by Hojima · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why the hell is it called jail breaking when applying these modifications? It should have nothing to do with jail, and you're certainly not breaking it. I say, hence forth, we call it 'freedom upgrading'.

    1. Re:We should follow the example of Stephen Colbert by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      I prefer to call it a 'Consumer's Rights Rebalancing'.

    2. Re:We should follow the example of Stephen Colbert by LordLucless · · Score: 2

      Because by default with these appliances, they treat you as an imprisoned criminal, restricting your freedom. The spin you're trying to put on it is already the basis of the original term.

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    3. Re:We should follow the example of Stephen Colbert by EdIII · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I don't care if it is 100% "free entertainment". It is, always has, and always will be about freedom, liberty, and their crucial components, privacy and anonymity.

      The PS3 is merely one small battle. The poster that said "Consumer Rights Rebalancing" had it right. This is very much about consumer rights, however, it should be about a larger issue. Rights all Americans, and free human beings, should have in cyberspace. That war is being fought with people largely ignorant of the whole affair or how important it is.

      Let's face it. It would be far easier if the situation were explained thusly:

      Sony, for the consideration of $600, and service fees, offers the consumer a PS3 entertainment console. There will be a Sony representative physically in your home at all times. Sony will decide what games will function, and what will not, at Sony's direct discretion at all times. All media, All software, All content is the direct property of Sony and can be altered or withdrawn at any time. Any services or features that were present at the time of purchase are not guaranteed to be present in the future. Attempts to remove the Sony representative from your home, or distract him from his official duties, in any way, is against the law and you will be prosecuted to its full extent. Guilt before innocence will be assumed in all cases.

      Now, if you were offered that deal, would you accept it? No? Then why is DRM and protection mechanisms designed to take away your ability to peacefully enjoy your property any more acceptable?

      I will stipulate that 100% of PS3 owners will commit copyright infringement. It still does not justify that Sony representative being in your house and your inability to actually enjoy the rights of property ownership over property you actually paid for.

      The ends do not justify the means here. That goes not just for Sony, but for every manufacturer and content distributor. Stay. The. Fuck. Out. Of. My. Home.

    4. Re:We should follow the example of Stephen Colbert by wmbetts · · Score: 2

      I broke my wii for homebrew. Guess what I did. I made a simple game for my daughter. It had nothing to do with "free entertainment".

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    5. Re:We should follow the example of Stephen Colbert by Darkness404 · · Score: 2

      Lets see here, for one the computer market. Computers keep getting faster, cheaper, have more features, etc. based solely on consumer demand. A basic desktop no longer costs $1,000+, laptops can be found for $300 commonly, etc. Look at robotics, what was seen as a distant, science-fiction dream, having a robot sweep your floors, can now be purchased for only a few hundred dollars in the form of a Roomba and other-type devices. Then just look at the rest of the stuff we have that we never would have dreamed we would have had as children, mini-TVs in the backs of cars, the ability for your phone to play just about any game you played as a child or teenager, the ability to store an entire library on a card the size of a fingernail, the fact that your entire CD collection can be compressed into a tiny box with speakers, the ability to watch movies in -real- 3D that doesn't look messed up like with the old red/blue glasses, the fact that you can use video chat to talk to anyone, anywhere in the world and see them in pretty close to real time, what about the fact that you don't even need a paper map anymore you type in any address anywhere in the country and your GPS can give you pretty accurate directions of how to get there (they still need an "avoid the ghetto" option though), what about the fact that we no longer have to wait for film to develop, or even lug around a bulky camera, we can instead capture those moments and send them around the world with a cell phone, what about the fact that we've gone from blurry-barely-recognizable black and white TV to crystal-clear HDTV? Etc.


      And to think that all of that is pretty much attainable for anyone living in the west. Yes, I know, not all of it was fully developed by corporations and some of the underlying technologies were developed by universities, but the fact still remains that they are only attainable at a low cost because of the (somewhat) free-market that we have. And yes, I know, some people would like everything to be free. Ever. And they'd just love it for everything to be sold for exactly what it costs, but the fact remains, we've gotten so much in the last few years from the free market, had those economic benefits not been there, our lives would be profoundly worse off.

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    6. Re:We should follow the example of Stephen Colbert by RCL · · Score: 2

      Actually, there's a third way. Russian gamedev, although not as prominent as western one, manages to live off of much lesser profit margins because PC games (even Western ones) are usually sold for about 10 USD per disc (pirates go even lower, for 2-3 USD per disc, but their quality signicantly differ). This probably wouldn't justify multimillion dollar investments which are currently poured on western gamedev projects, but, having first-hand experience in that industry, I'd say that these money is badly invested anyway (the same situation as in film industry): i.e. you get real work done for maybe 50% of the money, while the rest is wasted on overhead and unnecessary luxury.

      Maybe this luxury is essential in attracting certain kinds of people and the overhead is inevitable given how young gamedev business still is, but current situation doesn't look sustainable for me. I believe that lowering both prices and expenses would result in much healthier industry.

  7. 4 years by gilbert644 · · Score: 4, Funny

    It took 4 years to do this. I think Sony gets a few points for that.

    1. Re:4 years by Osgeld · · Score: 4, Insightful

      no one was really trying that hard for 3.5 of those 4 years, until they started removing features "just because"

      sony's other current gen console has been gang rapped so many times they even removed the disc drive

    2. Re:4 years by Osgeld · · Score: 5, Insightful

      well the developing world is not buying 600$ consoles are they? (which is what it cost up till last year)

  8. Re:OH dear! by click2005 · · Score: 2

    In a cost saving exercise Sony noticed that controllers had more buttons than needed. New controllers will only feature one directional button. To use it press the button and point the controller in the direction you want to move.

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  9. Not confirmed by neokushan · · Score: 5, Interesting

    This is largely unconfirmed and most likely fake - and I'll tell you why.

    Check out the very end of the video, the "game" exits and a message is displayed in the top right corner. See that message? Retail consoles don't display that, but Debug/TEST consoles do. Any Debug unit can be upgraded to debug Firmware 3.50 and play all the homebrew out there.

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    1. Re:Not confirmed by neokushan · · Score: 2

      Technically, that's what the "jailbreak" actually does, but the retail firmware is different to the debug firmware. This is why you can "enable" a bunch of debug options in the VSH but they still don't work.

      If the video is legitimate, the more likely scenario is that they've found a way to install the 3.5 debug firmware itself, rather than "jailbreak" anything. But if this was the case, the dongle probably wouldn't be needed (unless you need to "jailbreak" the retail PS3 to make it accept the debug firmware on boot).

      I know someone was able to install debug firmware 2.3 onto his PS3, but I believe this was actually possible on retail PS3's that hadn't been upgraded past 2.3 anyway, then Sony started encrypting the debug firmware with a different key.

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    2. Re:Not confirmed by flimflammer · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I'm also suspicious of when he's scrolling through the system settings, and then raises the controller up in front of the camera. When he pulls the controller away, he's now in a different location. Anyone who uses debug/test stations knows there's several system settings in there that don't exist on retail units. It's almost like he's covering it up while he passes them.

  10. Re:ok .. by hedwards · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Do you have a better theory as to why the hacks only started about the time that Sony took that feature away? I know there was that one guy that claimed to have gained root. But he refused to actually release it and Sony reacted by taking away the Other OS feature and updating firmwares to fight the efforts.

    It seems a bit much that it took this long for the first successful crack to appear and now they're coming out so quickly.

  11. Re:Interesting scorekeeping by hedwards · · Score: 2

    My guess is that because until that first serious attempt nobody had really bothered to try. It seems a bit suspicious that it's easier to defeat the protection now than it was initially.

    The more likely explanation is that it nobody was really trying very hard previously, but now that Sony has taken away a lot of the initial functionality from the PS3 there's a lot more interest in putting the options back that the device was sold based on.

  12. Pick any 5 year old at random by nedlohs · · Score: 2

    out of a luddite village, hand them a 5 year old cell phone that can take video and they'll make a better video than that crap in 7.3 seconds.

  13. Re:ok .. by Mordok-DestroyerOfWo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Sony is worse for having shipped the console touting its ability to run Linux, then removing that option remotely. I'm not a huge fan of any of the consoles, but neither Microsoft nor Nintendo can match Sony in asshatness.

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  14. Re:ok .. by larry+bagina · · Score: 2

    Most people don't care, but I bought a PS3, in part to play with linux/cell development. That was an advantage it had over the wii or xbox. Had they not been a feature, I don't think I would have bought it.

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  15. Re:Interesting scorekeeping by Osgeld · · Score: 2

    cause not that many people cared until sony started fucking around with its users, Its kind of like you buy a car with a decent stereo system in it, but one day GM just shows up and removes it while telling you to stick it up your ass

  16. Re:Interesting scorekeeping by LrdDimwit · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Furthermore, how can you possibly call the score 2-0 for the hackers? Sony closed the first hole! If the hackers score a point when they poke a hole in Sony's defenses, shouldn't Sony score for closing said hole? And shouldn't Sony ALSO score points for preventing the holes from being found in the first place? A game where you can only ever tie your opponent is no fun, after all. Although I suppose that would be an interesting metaphor for the war they're waging now; you can never win, all you can hope to do is not lose.

  17. Re:ok .. by Khyber · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wait a second, we've got RSX access?

    WTF why isn't this the bigger story instead of mine? Screw my story!

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  18. Re:Hackers 2, Sony 0 by Khyber · · Score: 2

    Sony never limited us, we just never gave a shit until they pissed us off.

    Try more along the lines of 2:0 in under a year.

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  19. Re:2:40 minues of my life I'll never have back aga by flimflammer · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It is pretty silly that he spends most of it wandering the menus for seemingly no reason. Could have easily shown everything that needed to be shown in like 30 seconds.

  20. Re:ok .. by anomaly256 · · Score: 2

    Same. But boy was I ever pissed off and dismayed when they locked down the RSX access and left us with a shitty HV-mitigated framebuffer too slow to play back media or do any realtime visualization of anything. Shiny red Ferrari with no wheels.

  21. Re:2:40 minues of my life I'll never have back aga by blankoboy · · Score: 4, Funny

    Are you kidding. I love listening to overweight guys breath heavily while playing one-handedly with their game controller with a completely out of focus shaky cam. 10/10!!

  22. Re:ok .. You are an idiot by DeadlyFoez · · Score: 2

    You obviously don't know crap about the wii scene. The wii is the most open console right now. You can easily use a hombrew app like BlueDump to get whatever VC games you want onto an SD card in wad form. You can easily copy all of your saved games onto SD card. And hell, you can even use bushings betwiin app to convert a nand dump from one wii to be compatible on another and then EVERYTHING is there just the way you had it.

  23. Re:ok .. by Darkness404 · · Score: 2

    So you are more happy with a company which advertises one thing then remotely changes it down the line? Would you be happy with owning a box set of DVDs only to find out that 2 years later they removed some of the episodes? Would you be happy with buying a computer then suddenly 2 years after you've had it the disk capacity goes down by 50 GB? With removing "OtherOS" Sony committed fraud, I much more strongly despise Sony for using fraudulent tactics than I do Microsoft or Nintendo which haven't resorted to such tactics. Also, the Wii is much, much, much more open than the PS3 or 360. Nintendo doesn't try to ban third-party controllers like Sony does, and doesn't kick you offline if it detects a "modified" console like Microsoft does. Yes, there is always that yearly update that it takes the homebrew guys a week to get around, but other than that it is the most open of the 3 consoles.

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  24. Re:ok .. by drinkypoo · · Score: 2

    Can someone explain to me exactly what 'homebrew' is all about? Are people out there independently generating games for the units or is this just code words for being able to play copied games? What all can you do with one of these units, a Wii or a PS3 that has been jailbroken. Anyone have any good links to what all this can do for you?

    No good links, but plenty of experience. I have The Homebrew Channel installed on my Wii and I modded my Xbox. Both platforms have original homebrew games, but they are few. Both platforms have tons of emulators, allowing you to play classic games. And both platforms have media players that permit you to use your console as... uh, a media player. In fact, mplayer has been repeatedly ported to the Wii. On the Xbox it's Xbox Media Center, which is now a cross-platform Win/Mac/Lin software, and it's fantastic.

    The simple truth is that there's no way to use the console for arbitrary purposes without enabling people to play unauthorized copies. That's why we have the "substantial non-infringing use" metric, to determine if people are just using it for piracy or not. And indeed, the simple truth is that there are lots of people using it for purposes other than copyright infringement. You have a legal right to make backups. You don't have the legal right to remove their protection. You do have the right to modify the product they send you, and re-sell it even. You don't have the right to modify their code and send it without the product, though, and redistributing BIOS has gotten some modchip vendors in trouble now and again. These days nobody really makes that mistake.

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  25. Re:ok .. by JonJ · · Score: 2

    Seriously, Sony isn't any worse in this respect than Nintendo or MS is.

    Yes they are. They fooled customers into thinking they would support an open source environment and would be an affordable route to get a Cell-based computer. Then after they have gotten people to buy into their lies, they pull that support. I'm pretty sure that has a term... Oh yeah, bait-and-switch.

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  26. Re:Interesting scorekeeping by Troed · · Score: 3, Interesting

    At some point Sony decided that too many people were exploiting the OtherOS feature for piracy

    You mean, zero? That's the amount of people who were exploiting OtherOS for piracy when Sony removed the functionality.

  27. Re:ok .. by Bert64 · · Score: 2

    Sony are arguably worse, because they initially offered this option and then later made you choose which of the consoles features you'd like to keep.
    You used to be able to dual boot with linux *AND* play games, however if you keep linux then no modern games will run anymore.

    MS/Nintendo never offered the ability to run linux as a feature, and they still offer all of the features they ever did.

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  28. I win by __aaqvdr516 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Me 1, Sony 0

    If you don't buy from a company, you automatically win.

  29. Re:ok .. by DrScotsman · · Score: 2

    I imagine you've probably also been replied to many times that not updating "removes" other functionality. I'm not a PS3 owner but I've heard this includes using the PSN, playing new games, potentially playing new Blu-Rays, and of course any advantages that come with software updates. At least two of those are very easy to justify as advertised features (Games & Blu-Ray).

    So either you lose one feature or you lose (at least) one other. I think the GP's comment applies perfectly, Sony cannot escape their "asshatness" by the fact that you can choose between two unpleasant outcomes.

    Please don't mention anything to do with EULAs by the way. Whilst I would happily justify against Sony in a legal discussion of the matter, all we're talking about right now is Sony being an asshat.

  30. Re:ok .. by mister_playboy · · Score: 2

    That does not change the fact you have to choose between the ability to play new games/access PSN and the ability to run Linux.

    I'd love to play GT5, but it requires FW 3.50 and I'm not going to upgrade from 3.15 until I see how the jailbreak scene develops.

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