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Tobacco Virus Could Boost Li Batteries
siliconbits alerts us to the possible use of one of the world's most destructive naturally occurring scourges, the tobacco mosaic virus, to boost the capacity of lithium ion batteries by 10 times. It seems the virus can be made to attach itself to the electrodes in a lithium cell perpendicularly, increasing the surface area of the electrode and greatly improving the battery's capacity to store energy. PhysOrg has some more detail on virus-enhanced batteries. Four years ago we discussed the use of the tobacco mosaic virus to enable fast-switching transistors.
That's what just happened to my mind.
Actually, it's the smoking that gives you all those nasty ailments. Why not try a minty e-cigarette instead loaded with satiating tobacco?
Also, you can email your friends with your cigarette if you sign up for the $40/month e-cigarette data plan!
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It also damages tomatoes, are you saying you hate tomato?
Sorry, I don't consider a virus that primarily damages tobacco plants to be a scourge.
It affects all nightshades, including tomatoes, peppers and eggplant.
"I assumed blithely that there were no elves out there in the darkness"
What could go wrong (a tobacco die-off) could be.... very right.
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When you say "one of the world's most destructive naturally occurring scourges," are you referring to tobacco or the virus?
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I hate eggplant even more than I hate lunh cancer!
So the virus is still 2/4 in my book. Still not a scourge.
except it would take tomatoes with it as well. Won't someone think of the pizza!!!
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Unfortunately it doesn't just have an affect tobacco. Other species of plants can also be infected including food crops.
So there are a number of ways this could go wrong.
Somehow I see a parrallel here between computer security and the use of a virus to manufacture a product. Security makes it hard and less efficient, so lets do without security until all hell breaks loose and then we'll sit shaking our heads wondering or thinking we should have been more careful.
Perhaps The Diamond Age was a little off-target when talking about nanobot assembly of goods from pipelines of raw materials: programming biological viruses to build the structures you're looking for seems like it's becoming more and more viable than trying to purpose-build nanobots to do the same.
This should also lay to rest some of the more vehement rhetoric about 'grey goo' disasters; if there were going to be a 'grey goo' scenario, bacteria would have done it aeons ago.
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When not just chew gum?
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I have a gut feeling that tomatoes are inspected and cared for a lot more than tobacco is. Mostly because more people consume tomatoes and tomato products than tobacco and tobacco products anyway
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Sorry, I don't consider a virus that primarily damages tobacco plants to be a scourge.
Cancer, heart disease, and emphasema, now those are scourges. But a virus that kills their primary pathogen? Nope.
You seem to be implying that these diseases are caused by tobacco, and that tobacco is a pathogen. I strongly disagree with that idea. Tobacco without corporate tampering by spraying with additives really isn't the worst thing out there. Certainly something that is consumed almost exclusively voluntarily is not a scourge.
My grandfather smoked 20 unfiltered Camel cigarettes a day until he was 92yo. He died of "natural" causes, mainly being 92 fucking years old. Some people have shitty DNA that likes to get defective and turn into cancer. Some people don't. I like having the freedom to smoke cigarettes, and cry baby nanny-staters like DoofusOfDeath make me angry.
In another 4 years, what will the tobacco virus be boosting? place your bets :)
I'm thinking solar panels.
Eggplants are fun to throw at people!
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As an e-cig enthusiast, I will attest that it just isn't the same. With the e-cig, I get the satisfaction of inhaling something and seeing the resulting cloud. I also get my nicotine fix. Sure, nicotine is a poison, but at least all I'm inhaling is nicotine and propylene glycol (or food grade vegetable glycerin); there is no burning or 4000+ chemicals as found in a traditional cigarette. The gum just doesn't do it for most people.
The teachers will crack any minute, purple monkey dishwasher.
Four years ago we discussed the use of the tobacco mosaic virus to enable fast-switching transistors.
So where are the fast switching transistors? Does ANYTHING every come to fruition?
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I used to hate eggplants too bacause I always was served goopy overbaked eggplant.
But then I discovered that they are best prepared sliced, battered and fried. Delicious.
I like having the freedom to breathe air that isn't tainted by your smoke. Smoke in your own house, and nobody will bother you.
To tie this back to the topic: it will be interesting to see if this virus will actually spread, as a result of this new use. If it does, maybe we won't have to worry so much about non-smokers' rights. If I were a conspiracy theorist, I might even suggest that this is an attempt to destroy the nicotine crops. Ha.
Weight-for-weight tomatoes probably sell for less than tobacco, thus are less profitable. Would you put the effort into protecting a more profitable crop, or less profitable?
In some parts of the country, cigs go for eight bucks A PACK. Show me an "inspected and cared for" tomato going for 8 bucks...
Cell phone users aren't welcome around my pepper plants.
Maybe more people eat tomatoes, but there's probably more money in tobacco.
I don't believe in time. It's a grand conspiracy designed to sell watches.
Mmmm. Pizza...
Why, without your clothes, you're naked, Miss Dudley!
That can be fixed, all we need is some Tomacco.
My notebook batteries came pre-loaded with a virus!
Even I, a non-smoker, get angry when people try to impose things on smokers, because an attack on someone's freedom to do something that doesn't harm others is an attack on my freedom to do the same. And no, I'm not talking about restrictions on smoking in public spaces where the smoke affects others; I'm talking about restrictions/taxes on smoking on private property where the smoke doesn't drift on to neighboring property and the property owner is OK with smoking.
Should include "Choking Hazard: Do not place in infant mouths!".
Do they neutralize the virus when they bond them inside the batteries? What if the virus leaks out and eats up my cigarettes? Melp, Hurder!
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Sorry, I don't consider a virus that primarily damages tobacco plants to be a scourge.
Cancer, heart disease, and emphasema, now those are scourges. But a virus that kills their primary pathogen? Nope.
The virus is also a "scourge" on tomato, pepper, potato and other plants of the family. I've heard of it wiping out entire crops.
There is no "I disagree" mod for a reason. Flamebait, Troll, and Overrated are not substitutes.
In some parts of the country, cigs go for eight bucks A PACK. Show me an "inspected and cared for" tomato going for 8 bucks...
It's not the cigs that cost that much. It's all the sin-taxes put one them that make them that expensive. Tobacco is relatively cheap.
There is no "I disagree" mod for a reason. Flamebait, Troll, and Overrated are not substitutes.
I'm confused, is this a bug or a feature? Could it be both at the same time?!?
Balderdash! The key to preparing eggplant is the following two steps:
1) Slice the eggplant into ~ 1.5 cm - 2 cm slices. Salt one side of each slice. Reassemble eggplant, wrapping with cling wrap to hold it together. Let it rest for ~30 minutes until all the bitter juices leech out, and then wipe each slice dry.
2) Roast or grill eggplant for a couple minutes, until it looks like it has started cooking.
Then, do whatever you want with it.
Also, it helps to know that the eggplant has "male" and "female" fruit, and that the female fruit has a more bitter flavor.
If I had a nickel for every time I had a nickel, I'd be richcursive!
Gasoline has an energy density of about 34 MJ/L, while current Li-ion batteries have an energy density of around 0.7 MJ/L. If this comes to fruition, we'll have batteries with about 1/5th of the energy density of gasoline. That's quite amazing, in my opinion.
What if that battery is pierced, though? I know that the Tesla rig uses a slew of small cells. Do other electric cars like the Volt or the Leaf do the same thing? It seems to me that a number of small cells might present less of a problem, though that would drive the energy density of a battery pack down.
I used to hate eggplants too bacause I always was served goopy overbaked eggplant. But then I discovered that they are best prepared sliced, battered and fried. Delicious.
So what does that prove. *EVERYTHING* is best prepared sliced, battered, and fried: Cheese, Mars Bars, cardboard, you name it.
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How could you list "all nightshades" and not include potatoes? Does it affect them?
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Virus + Li Batteries.....
I just hope sony doesn't make these and it decides to explode in a tobacoo field. Whatcouldpossiblygowrong
Have a drug delivery system where dosage of an addictive substances is adjust by the user will not end well. The nicotine content is already trending upwards in vaporized cigarettes
People using those things look like idiots. The more you know.
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As I discovered, much to my consternation, after buying a Kodak digital camera which came with an included “Kodak lithium digital camera battery”:
Lithium batteries are not rechargeable. Lithium ion batteries are.
Big difference.
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I like having the freedom to breathe air that isn't tainted by your smoke.
Then don't stand near me. Seriously, the risks of second hand smoke in an outdoor area are very small compared to the risks indoors. You are willing to tolerate diesel fumes, which are also pretty bad for you (and contain many dangerous carcinogens and heavy metals); tobacco smoke is just a fun punching bag.
it will be interesting to see if this virus will actually spread
This virus has already spread and it causes a lot of crop damage each year, not just to tobacco but to plenty of other nightshade crops: tomatoes, peppers, potatoes. If tobacco is wiped out by this virus, so will a lot of other, not-so poisonous crops. Frankly, even tobacco was the only crop affected, it would impact the growth of healthier crops, because tobacco is commonly used as an all-natural pesticide. If the virus reached a level where tobacco crops were wiped out, it would also wipe out several wild tobacco species, which could damage the ecosystem in unpredictable ways.
Believe it or not, things are not black and white.
Palm trees and 8
Also, it helps to know that the eggplant has "male" and "female" fruit, and that the female fruit has a more bitter flavor.
Ok, I’ll bite... someone had to ask. We’re all wanting to know how you tell them apart.
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In this case the bug is the feature.
It seems the virus can be made to attach itself to the electrodes in a lithium cell perpendicularly, increasing the surface area of the electrode and greatly improving the battery's capacity to store energy.
Once again, it's time to... get perpendicular!
Even if the virus only affected tobacco -- in reality it affects lots of other crops -- if it caused the extinction of tobacco, that would be a bad thing for the world. There are numerous wild tobacco species whose extinction could have all sorts of consequences (like a suddenly rise in the population of insects). Tobacco is often used as a natural insecticide by people who want to be "green."
The tobacco plant is not evil (how can a plant be evil?) and its extinction would not necessarily be a good thing.
Palm trees and 8
With a battery like this, my Sprint EVO might last a full workday on a single charge!!!
Said, "It's just like dice but it's got more sides And it tells me who lives and who dies"
I prefer them in curry. There are many curry recipes with eggplants as ingredients.
:). Some versions are similar to lasagna.
Then there's moussaka, which is goopy baked eggplant, but usually with some minced meat in it
In some parts of the country, cigs go for eight bucks A PACK. Show me an "inspected and cared for" tomato going for 8 bucks...
It's not the cigs that cost that much. It's all the sin-taxes put one them that make them that expensive. Tobacco is relatively cheap.
You are right that the taxes are high on cigs. But, when compared to tomatoes... no it's not cheap. Tobacco goes for around $1.50/lb on the US wholesale market depending on the variety, harvest, etc. Tomatoes go for around $.40/lb on the US wholesale market. Remember, tomatoes are 98% water...
So perhaps some regulation is needed to limit the maximum concentration (not that I welcome such a thing). Stop protecting me from myself. Most people try a higher dosage because they want something called "throat hit". I achieve a good TH by using a low electrical resistance atomizer and a high mAh battery (low capacity batteries will be damaged by a LR atty). Nobody really NEEDS 36mg/ml concentration, but I order it so I can dilute it with PG or VG and get more e-juice for my buck. The moar you know and such.
The teachers will crack any minute, purple monkey dishwasher.
OMG! You mean to tell me there is a chance that a virus that is out in the wild will escape the battery labs and ... Get out into the wild?!?!?!?!?
Why is it so hard to only have politicians for a few years, then have them go away?
My family regularly makes eggplant parmesan. Basically it is chicken parm with eggplant instead of chicken. Everybody loves it.
The teachers will crack any minute, purple monkey dishwasher.
Then don't stand near me. Seriously, the risks of second hand smoke in an outdoor area are very small compared to the risks indoors. You are willing to tolerate diesel fumes, which are also pretty bad for you (and contain many dangerous carcinogens and heavy metals); tobacco smoke is just a fun punching bag.
While we're on the topic of fun punching bags lets bring back leaded gasoline and paint. I mean since we're inhaling so many toxins from diesel fumes, what's the point?
Oh right. The point is "just because other things are bad for you doesn't mean we shouldn't strive to eliminate smoking". To say nothing of the fact that at least diesel fumes are the result of something positive happening in our society. Your smoking, on the other hand, contributes jack and squat. Sometimes it's not practical to not stand near you. Especially given how some smokers, when foul weather hits, seem to think its their god given right to blockade the entrances and exits to building so that they can light up. Same with bus shelters and crowded streets.
I'm sorry - I'm a general supporter of smoker's rights. Health care shold not cost the smoker more and the smoker should not be treated any different than the non-smoker when it comes to treatment. When practical smokers should have a designated area with shelter where they can smoke to their little hearts content in bad weather. And on/in your own property? Be my guest. Even if there's a kid in the car. Yes - even if it affects a kid. Why? Because some parents do a lot worse to their children than smoke near them.
But in situations where your impinging on my rights and making my life difficult simply because you are addicted to cigarettes? Nope. Sorry. Doesn't work that way. You're the one that's doing harm. You need to be the one to move on.
It also damages all many other nightshades like tomatoes,peppers,and potatoes.
It's easy. When you walk into the eggplant patch, the female eggplants will all point at you, laugh, and say, "I can't believe you wore *that* to the garden."
"I'm just here to regulate funkiness."
"On average, one acre of tobacco can produce approximately 2,100 pounds of leaf tissue, yielding approximately one pound of TMV per pound of infected leaves," he explains.
Those leaves are 100% TMV? Yuck!
I think that should read '1 lb/ton'.
Tiller's Rule: Never use a word in written form that you've only heard and never read. You will end up looking foolish.
Tell me about it. But there's no law against selling kids tomacco. That little "m" is worth a lot of money to us -and to you.
"But this one goes to 11!"
I have a friend that hacks his ecigs to make them hotter like that, he also has a custom cigarette pack sized LIon battery pack for long trips.
In some parts of the country, cigs go for eight bucks A PACK. Show me an "inspected and cared for" tomato going for 8 bucks...
It's not the cigs that cost that much. It's all the sin-taxes put one them that make them that expensive. Tobacco is relatively cheap.
Actually, it's the health care and lost productivity costs that make them so expensive, both to the user and to society at large. The taxes are just a down payment.
WALSTIB!
Even I, a non-smoker, get angry when people try to impose things on smokers, because an attack on someone's freedom to do something that doesn't harm others is an attack on my freedom to do the same. And no, I'm not talking about restrictions on smoking in public spaces where the smoke affects others; I'm talking about restrictions/taxes on smoking on private property where the smoke doesn't drift on to neighboring property and the property owner is OK with smoking.
How about the increase in the cost of my healthcare due to people with tobacco induced illnesses who can't pay their medical bills?
It's really quite simple. There are people who create and sell an addictive product which kills people. They know it, we know it, the idiots who kill themselves with the product know it, and at least in the US, we subsidize the process with tax breaks for the industry and 'free' emergency room care for the idiots. The manufacturers and sellers of tobacco, and the politicians who accept their campaign bribes, are murderers and thieves.
I'll accept the 'personal freedom' argument when smokers grow their own tobacco without tax subsidies, and are turned away from emergency rooms and allowed to die on their own terms. When that happens, go ahead, knock yourself out. Literally.
(Yes, I just signed up for next year's health insurance plan, which costs more than my mortgage.)
WALSTIB!
All that and your conclusion is not that the system of socialized healthcare is unfair, but that smokers are exploiting it and should just be allowed to die so you can stay on your socialized healthcare without having to pay for their medical costs. Amazing.
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Your smoking, on the other hand, contributes jack and squat.
His smoking contributes to making him happy and/or satisfied. You could very easily say the same thing about gay sex.
Especially given how some smokers, when foul weather hits, seem to think its their god given right to blockade the entrances and exits to building so that they can light up. Same with bus shelters and crowded streets.
You see, that's not a problem caused by smoking or by cigarettes.
You have a problem with people who are stupid, rude, and inconsiderate of you. However, there's a statistical link between people with those traits and smoking. There are further links between such and poverty. How cute that they all line up, eh?
Maybe if we use some of those exploitive cigarette taxes to fund education and etiquette courses for smokers, we wouldn't be so rude and inconsiderate anymore. And maybe if we didn't pay through the nose for a pack of smokes to pay for all kinds of stupid shit that we don't get to enjoy, we wouldn't feel so empowered to be inconsiderate.
No one on the legislative side of the issue actually considers the smokers. The only consideration is "Me" and "Mine."
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and then when that guy smoking a private property comes down with lung cancer, we have to pay for his treatment
and he won't have health insurance, because according to him, to be forced to get health insurance is evil socialism, an affront on his freedom
of course, he'll take the healthcare he can't afford without insurance, to save his ignorant ass, anyway, because his "ideology" is worth shit: its just an excuse to freeload off responsible people, by not carrying insurance, but expecting treatment he can't afford when he gets sick. this lack of responsibility and foresight is apparantly called "freedom". yeah, freedom from accountability and taking care of yourself, apparently
when you don't have insurance and you need to go to the hospital, you are a believer in socialist medicine
when you have insurance and you don't have to go to the hospital, socialist medicine is an evil affront on our freedoms
that's the kind of depth and intelligence we are dealing with with some freeloading assholes when they whine about socialism and freedom
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
As a plant pathologist I think I can address this misconception, it's only named after tobacco.
From my professional society's website.
Emphasis mine
Tomatoes are scarcely a scourge, unless you dislike BLTs.
>>> Then don't stand near me.
Then don't stand near the doors of the building, or in the way on the sidewalk. Smoke in the middle of the street and you won't infringe upon non-smoker pedestrians. Or put a trash bag over your head before you light up. Either way, your choice.
>>> Seriously, the risks of second hand smoke in an outdoor area are very small compared to the risks indoors.
Doesn't matter, it's the smell not the tiny chance of cancer.
>>> You are willing to tolerate diesel fumes
Huh? I don't see the OP mention this anywhere. I personally try to avoid inhaling diesel fumes as well. And gasoline fumes too for that matter, no matter how awesome they may smell.
It doesn't hurt to be nice.
The lozenges are good. It's basically just like dip (sustained release and stronger dose; what's not to love?) except that you put it in your cheek, like chaw, instead of behind your lip. As a bonus, there's no disgusting spit or oral cancer (AFAIK -- I'm not a doctor).
If you really want to quit nicotine, though, the patch works pretty well. It provides just enough nicotine to keep you from killing your neighbors, but not enough that it won't take significant willpower to resist other forms, which means you're actually participating in quitting rather than substituting one form for another. You could go through the whole step-down process over 3 months, but most people just forget to put on new patches after a couple of weeks and boom, they're done. Two weeks after that, and the cravings are almost completely gone.
The benefit of nicotine is that it's an excellent stimulant. The downside is that if you take it regularly (multiple times per day), as you'll be wont to do, then you'll quickly acclimate to the effects. From there, you're just paying money to maintain normalcy.
https://www.eff.org/https-everywhere
If you combine all the claims of new technologies that enable 10x the capacity for batteries, we should be seeing AA cells that can hold enough power to run the planet for a year.
I'll believe it when I can buy it from Canadian Tire.
dude, which ecig do you use? I wanna try it, but apparently not all brands are teh same (quick search reveals that some brands suck big time, chief complaint being that it hardly makes any vapor and battery dies too fast)
My favorite eggplant recipe is as follows:
Take one eggplant, cut in ~3/8" slices. Lightly bread each side with Italian seasoned crumbs and grated Parmesan cheese, then toss delicately into a medium pail of garbage. Repeat the process if you need more practice, otherwise remove the veal cutlets from the fridge and make dinner.
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>e-cig
Wonder if those that want to quit will try out their new e-nicopatch for a small price of 19.99$
Kid Icarus flashbacks....ugh!
I use a RIVA battery (available in a 901 or 510 style thread). My atomizer is a low resistance SLB 901 I also use an aluminum dripper tip
I might suggest a regular resistance atomizer for use with the RIVA as you can sometimes end up with a sort of burned taste. It takes some experimenting to figure out what works best for you. Your best bet is to head over to the E-Cig Forum and doing a bit of reading. There's a lot to choose from and you should be able to make a more well informed decision based on what you find there.
The teachers will crack any minute, purple monkey dishwasher.
So whats the going rate for Tomocco?
Before anyone tries shooting me down over this, yes I smoke and I occasionally drink.
Good luck getting your third chemo dose with no insurance and no money paid to date. Hit by a car? Sure, we'll patch you up. Something stupid and long-term like smoking-induced lung cancer? Go screw yourself. Hospitals are not specialists, but oncologists are specialists that can and will demand cash up front from the uninsured (even if they work in a hospital). This is not the problem you make it out to be, and your ideology of 'screw you' is already the one implemented. The socialist healthcare cost of the *uninsured* smoker is largely a myth pushed by rabid neocons who oppose universal healthcare. Having said that, smoking is a really stupid thing to do. Believe me, I smoke and I wish I had never started, so when I say it is stupid it is experience talking.
Smokers do legitimately generate more medical costs, and should legitimately pay more for health insurance (as they already do today). By the same reasoning however, drinkers should be paying more for both health insurance and car insurance. Alcohol is a major factor in motor vehicle injuries/fatalities, assaults, and other forms of violence in addition to being a risk factor for liver failure, heart disease, and a host of other problems. Why, then, is there no insurance premium for legal consumers of alcohol when there is one for legal consumers of tobacco? If we can agree that certain groups have differing risk factors (and that's an easy agreement), and can further agree that differing risk factors justify differing premiums (again an easy agreement since that is already the case), then we should turn the actuarians loose and live with the mathematically accurate results. Now, defining the various groups is a hot topic for debate and flame wars. I wish us all good luck with that.
So, what do we do? We can't successfully outlaw these substances (see: prohibition). We already tax the hell out of them and penalize users in a number of ways justifiable and not. We could improve education and addiction treatment, though those areas are steadily improving. Smoking cessation efforts are working, over time. My suggestion? Help replace tobacco with (legalized) cannabis and eliminate the physical addiction potential of the smoked material. Ignore that if you want, but if you disagree please provide an alternative with a chance of actually improving things.
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I like having the freedom to breathe air that isn't tainted by your smoke.
Then don't stand near me.
I figure if you're free to smoke around me then I'm free to carry a tank of pure O2 and stream it into the air around you. We'll see who catches fire first.
-- Alastair
I agree, we must ban Tea and Coffee now.
Those vile addicts keep making their drinks stronger and stronger by using more leaves/grounds and longer steeping times.
Actually smokers tend to die young, and on the balance pay far more in taxes than they cost.
The More You Know......
No such thing. Allergies occur due to reactions to proteins, those all get burned. You are either a liar or your sister has another problem.
What about my freedom to breathe clean air when in public property? You or anyone else can do what you want to yourselves, I want my clean air.
I dream of a nation where a man is not judged by his skin color but by an number assigned by a credit rating agency.
lithium batteries are sufficiently unstable that they are banned from commercial aircraft and US mail.
Then explain why I'm allowed to mail a Game Pak of The Legend of Zelda, which contains a CR2032 lithium battery to power an 8 KiB SRAM. Or have classic video game dealers been breaking the law all this time?
Actually, that's a bit off target.
The truth is, I was using a bit of hyperbole to point out that 'personal freedom' is rarely as simple as it seems, and that one's actions often carry consequences not only beyond the obvious, but beyond one's knowledge. Also, I've noticed that the people who make the most noise about personal freedom often are the same ones who complain most loudly about how they are affected by other people's actions. So I turned a common argument from that quarter back on the source, so to speak.
My REAL opinion is that health care should be considered a basic need, and provided to all as equitably as possible. I am utterly dismayed by the fact that in the US we allow more US citizens to die every year due to lack of health insurance than have been killed by acts of terrorism in all of our nation's history. A small fraction of the money we've spent on killing and destroying in the name of the "War on Terror" would have saved more American lives in a month than we've "saved" with years of war. But I digress.
To simplify:
I do not begrudge the health care given to people who need it, even if they caused their own problem through gross stupidity like tobacco use, even though it costs me extra to cover some of them, and even if they whine about me pointing out their idiocy.
I do begrudge every penny spent to prop up the profits of an industry that kills millions and produces no benefit in return, other than to keep certain lawmakers empowered. The jobs produced cannot begin to compensate for the financial and health and life losses induced.
WALSTIB!
Especially given how some smokers, when foul weather hits, seem to think its their god given right to blockade the entrances and exits to building so that they can light up.
I do it on purpose for all the people who voted to take our rights away (I live in Wisconsin, ban was enacted July 5th). There is no demand for non smoking bars (not where I live anyway). If there was there would have been non-smoking bars before the ban and bars wouldn't be going out of business, shortening their hours and closing on Mondays.
You also need to toss more nightshadiness in - a good tomato sauce makes that stuff scrumdiddliumptious.
Humans are terrible replicators of Godly things.
If that's asinine, then it's perfectly okay for me to fart it up right next to you. After all, the release makes me feel so much better! And if you don't like the smell, don't be a jackass and try to make me move away; you find a new spot! I'm not doing anything wrong.
Humans are terrible replicators of Godly things.
I don't think you get it.
If I make known to you that I don't like it when you fart right next to me, and you compromise by farting in the bathroom instead, I have zero right to bitch about the bathroom smelling like farts.
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...no, if some place smells of fart, that's probably licence enough to complain. Just like walking into a smoky room would cause a non-smoker to complain(and maybe other smokers too).
Humans are terrible replicators of Godly things.
AC1: Nicotine causes heart disease. AC2: No it doesn't. AC1: Yes it does.
Makings of a good debate.
I do not want your cheap brainburning drugs. They are useless for work. And I am a working man today.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parmigiana
Interesting, I thought you meant that you created dried, grated, eggplant and thought it looked like grated Parmesan cheese. But it seems to me that this is a dish not well known in the Netherlands. It seems that - at least according to the Wikipedia page - eggplant Parmesan came first, so your family is actually preparing the original Italian dish again.
It attack both tobacco plants, hop and weed? Are we sure it does not also infect politicians?
This battery tech, if it pans out, should be the the most profound change to our society since the PC-- electric vehicles (EVs)-- mass-produced and affordable ones, that is-- that today can only manage a couple of hundred miles at best will be capable of driving thousands of miles per charge. But as a practical matter, we will opt instead for cars with a range of, say, 300 miles, but with much smaller, lighter batteries. They will only require motors a third as big... the suspension systems will be lighter and nimbler... they'll be more powerful, quicker, less expensive and better in every respect than the internal combustion engine (ICE) cars that we have toay and which I hate. I look forward to quieter freeways, less smog, cheaper transportation costs, and the other benefits such cars will bring. The one problem will be that since EVs will be so much cheaper, and cheaper to operate, our freeways will eventually become more congested unless we develop new tech that allows greater density but still allows reasonable speeds.
Yeah this sounds dubious: http://www.friedbeer.net/
Simple: don't give medical care to people who can't pay. Just like you don't give a car to someone who can't pay. Why should responsible smokers pay for irresponsible people?
Where does it end? Fatty foods? Salty foods? Foods with sugar? I wish I were simply engaging in hyperbole here, but news stories tell otherwise.
Like I said, I don't smoke. I do value my freedom, and know the behavior of people who are always looking for some new reason to encroach on it. It's ironic that you describe how smokers impose on you, but fail to see how you want to impose your restriction of freedom on everyone.
/facepalm
I can't be expected to read now, can I?
I dream of a nation where a man is not judged by his skin color but by an number assigned by a credit rating agency.
Everything about EVs will continue to mature, including AC motors for EV use will make them more efficient, increasing range per charge and decreasing power requirements. Google "V2G"... it stands for "Vehicle to Grid"... it is a system that power companies are beginning to implement to make EVs part of the solution, not just part of the problem. The grid and the EVs plugged into it will be "intelligent"... If the grid senses it is beginning to become overloaded, it puts out a "request" to EVs to give back some of their charge to prevent blackouts. Vehicle owners that provide such power will be paid for that energy at an attractive rate, allowing the load on the grid to be less erratic. Homeowners, public charging stations, retail businesses, and apartment buildings will be installing their own battery storage systems, which will help to decentralize our grid and make it more robust against terrorists and any other anomalies that might otherwise give us the kinds of problems inherent with very centralized grids.
The power grids of the future will be as different from the grid of the recent past as today's cars differ from the best cars of the 1970's-- they will be cybernetic.
Check out Altair Nanotech of Reno, Nevada, re: their NanoSafe battery, which is far more rugged than any batteries today-- they survive undercharging, overcharging, rapid discharge, rapid charging, and will last for decades without maintenance. The Navy has been using them to replace one of two large generators on their submarines to make them stealthier and reduce their operating expenses; what they save on energy in less than two years will pay back the investment. The Army will be using such batteries to avoid the hazardous transport of tanker trucks through hostile territory, operating quiet, stealthy vehicles that can be charged from local solar power panels; they will also power radios in soldier's backpacks. Also take a look at Clipper Creek, Coloumb Technologies and others ramping up to provide thousands of charging stations nationwide. They are doing it intelligently, so grids will not be crashing.
I prefer Asian eggplant, especially when prepared as Thai Basil Eggplant; I have it every week
Pain is merely failure leaving the body
Wait. People don't like the smell of farts, so people aren't supposed to fart anywhere? Good luck with that crusade.
Not at all. But regardless, it's irritating. Just like smoking.
Humans are terrible replicators of Godly things.
So you wouldn't mind if, when I saw you smoking, I walked up and sprayed some pepper spray onto the ground at your feet? Because I've wanted to do that to people who smoke in public for a long time.
It doesn't hurt to be nice.
I'm sorry that you have issues.
Boot Windows, Linux, and ESX over the network for free.
TMV infects EVERYTHING. It truly is a scourge.
It can also infect petunias (also solanaceae) apples and pears, currants, cherry trees, pretty much everything.
It's also quite rugged, as viruses go. It can actually be spread from processed tobacco in cigarettes. For that reason, we disallow anyone even bringing unsmoked cigarettes into our greenhouses.
Sam