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Will 2011 Be the Year of Mobile Malware?

alphadogg writes "Perhaps one of the most common predictions of the last six years has been that mobile malicious software will suddenly proliferate, driven by widespread adoption of smartphones with advanced OSes. None of those prognostications has really come to fruition, but it's likely that the coming year will bring a host of new malicious applications. Users — while generally aware of threats aimed at their desktop computers and laptops — have a good chance of being caught flat-footed with their mobile phones. In the third quarter of this year, up to 80 million smartphones were sold around the world, which accounted for about 20 percent of the total number of mobile phones sold, according to statistics published last month by analyst firm Gartner. Experts say the threats against those devices are going to come in several categories, including rogue applications. In September, researchers from security vendor Fortinet discovered a mobile component for Zeus, a notorious piece of banking malware that steals account credentials. The mobile component, which targeted Symbian Series 60 devices or BlackBerrys, intercepted one-time passcodes used to verify transactions."

111 comments

  1. Nope by Orome1 · · Score: 0

    No, it won't.

    1. Re:Nope by BobMcD · · Score: 1

      No, it won't.

      This. Anytime you spot the formula "Will 'x' be the Year of 'y'" - particularly on slashdot - the answer is ALWAYS no. I think it has to do with that particular phrasing. Nobody ever seems to ask 'Will 2011 be the Year of 365 days' or something similar. It's always outlandish...

    2. Re:Nope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      ... because it will be the Year of the Linux Desktop (tm)(r)(c)!

    3. Re:Nope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anytime you spot the formula "Will 'x' be the Year of 'y'" - particularly on slashdot - the answer is ALWAYS no

      Will 2011 be the year of not Linux on the desktop? </wishful thinking>

    4. Re:Nope by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 1

      2011 will be the Two thousand eleventh Year of the Common Era/Anno Domini.

    5. Re:Nope by Orome1 · · Score: 1

      I know :) but I just had to comment anyway :)

    6. Re:Nope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      By this logic, we can avoid mobile malware by simply asking this question every year. Fail-proof anti-virus, nice.

    7. Re:Nope by characterZer0 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Will X be the year of Y?

      No, but X will be the year of poorly written and poorly researched trade magazine articles about Y.

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    8. Re:Nope by mlts · · Score: 1

      With bad things, a year of the "foo" can happen, such as (IIRC) 2000 when the E-mail based worms slammed Windows networks, or 1994 when USENET was hit by the spam heard around the world. Those are times when the first salvo is fired starting the conflict in earnest (1994 when the spammers and cancelbots started, and 2000 when malware went from "just" the pirate scene to being able to wind up on anybody's desktop anywhere.)

      Right now, malware is relatively rare on phones. However, there are things which are easy money if malware does get a foothold. Dialers for instance -- the old scourge of people who used the Internet before broadband. There is easy money to be made if malware gets a device to spam a SMS service for $10.00 per message.

      There is one double-edged sword which both cuts at the freedom of the end user of cellphones and the malware writers -- hardware can change easily between iterations of a phone, while the PC architecture has to remain compatible back to the early 80s and MS-DOS applications. For example, outside of where the iOS apps have their jails, iOS can essentially do anything it wants to, and the apps don't/can't care. Same with Android and the /system directory.

      So, the same precautions that can keep malware from accessing the machine can also keep a machine locked down.

    9. Re:Nope by mysidia · · Score: 1

      ... because it will be the Year of the Linux Desktop (tm)(r)(c)!

      Not only that, but 2012 will be the Year of the Linux Desktop also. And that is not a contradiction

      It is the year of the Linux desktop.

      It has always been the year of the Linux desktop.

    10. Re:Nope by icebike · · Score: 1

      This. Anytime you spot the formula "Will 'x' be the Year of 'y'" - particularly on slashdot - the answer is ALWAYS no. I think it has to do with that particular phrasing. Nobody ever seems to ask 'Will 2011 be the Year of 365 days' or something similar. It's always outlandish...

      Another tell is any time you spot reference to Gartner, you can pretty much stop reading.

      Its a race between Gartner and JD Power and Asshats to see who can provide the best cooked analysis and micro-category awards that money can buy.

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    11. Re:Nope by Ponder+Stibions · · Score: 1

      Will 2011 be the year Windows kills off OSX and Linux and Microsoft takes control of the mobile market? Oh, the 2nd prompts the original suggestion: year of mobile malware.....

    12. Re:Nope by Quirkz · · Score: 1

      Will 2011 be the Year of the Rabbit according to the Chinese zodiac? Yes, yes it will! Having been born in the year of the rabbit some multiple of 12 years ago, I expect 2011 to be particularly auspicious.

    13. Re:Nope by froggymana · · Score: 1

      Current_year = n

      Year_of_Linux_Desktop = N+1

      By this reasoning, we are only 1 year away! I can already see everyone I know switching their PIII computers from XP to Debian or Gentoo!

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  2. None have come to fruition? by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 1

    Oh I can think of a couple

    Albeit, Jailbroken iPhones are less Secure than... umm... whats the term for that? Non-jailbroken? Jailfixed? StillJailed? Anyways.

    Point is that some people have started writing malicious software for phones, its becoming glaringly obvious.

    What we don't have is people focused on finding, removing, and spouting a product yet like Norton/McAffee/AVG/whatever.

    Who is to say a lot of phones are infected but no one yet knows. I bet most users, if their email was compromised, would assume they were hacked via a computer, not tracked via their phone, which could easily be the case.

    1. Re:None have come to fruition? by BobMcD · · Score: 2

      What we don't have is people focused on finding, removing, and spouting a product yet like Norton/McAffee/AVG/whatever.

      Go wash your mouth out with soap, right now!

      Can you imagine how god-awful slow people's phones will become after installing Norton Mobile 2011? And I bet the 'uninstall' process involves reflashing the device, too.

      Please no, for the love of all smartphones everywhere, please DO NOT speak this 'solution' out loud where others might hear it. If you speak it's name you give it power, after all...

    2. Re:None have come to fruition? by jeffmeden · · Score: 5, Informative

      What we don't have is people focused on finding, removing, and spouting a product yet like Norton/McAffee/AVG/whatever.

      Oh we don't, do we?

    3. Re:None have come to fruition? by mark72005 · · Score: 1

      I don't see how BloatwareSecuritySuitExtreme 2011 would ever be necessary.

      When I sync the phone, my contacts and apps, etc. - get backed up. Worst case scenario, I do a reset-to-factory, then retrieve the backup of my contacts and emails, the apps get downloaded and installed again.

      (of course this assumes the user knows they have malware in the first place)

    4. Re:None have come to fruition? by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 1

      I sit corrected.

    5. Re:None have come to fruition? by causality · · Score: 2

      I don't see how BloatwareSecuritySuitExtreme 2011 would ever be necessary.

      Since when did marketers ever care about whether you actually need whatever product they're hawking?

      Windows has already trained most of the public to perceive virus scanners as essential system tools.

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    6. Re:None have come to fruition? by AltairDusk · · Score: 1

      And I bet the 'uninstall' process involves reflashing the device, too.

      I applaud your optimism but I suspect the uninstall process may require a good-sized hammer.

    7. Re:None have come to fruition? by AltairDusk · · Score: 2

      All sarcasm aside if GP is referring to the incident I'm thinking of that was only because people never changed the root password after jailbreaking. More recently with the iOS PDF exploit tools to help users protect themselves were available to jailbroken users 3 days after it was widely known (release of Jailbreakme.com which used the exploit). "Jailed" devices had to wait for a fix from Apple which came 10 days after. This is still a good response time and should not be taken as a bash on Apple, it does illustrate that assuming jailbroken automatically means less secure is wrong.

    8. Re:None have come to fruition? by VortexCortex · · Score: 1

      What we don't have is people focused on finding, removing, and spouting a product yet like Norton/McAffee/AVG/whatever.

      Oh we don't, do we?

      If Viruses did not exist, it would be necessary for AV companies to create them.

      The Joker exists because of Bat Man. Bat Man exists because of the crime in Gotham. Both Bat Man and The Joker can use their resources to fight or cause crime.
      Darth Vader exists because of the Jedi, the Jedi Order exists because of crime in the Universe. The Force can be used for good and evil.

      It's a Yen & Yang sort of thing. Good and Evil are relative terms, subject to interpretation.

      Crackers exist because of Hackers. AV exists because of malware in CyberSpace. The Source can be used for good or evil.

      Hackers hack on the hardware / environments that they have available. Hackers can turn bad, and become Crackers, and use their but first they must have a genuine interest and exposure to a platform in order to exploit it.

      Some platforms cater more to the Hackers, and they are less frustrated with the platform; Thus, less become Crackers for such platforms. Other platforms shun the Hacker, frustration fuels the desire to become a Cracker, and more malware is released which exploits such platforms...

    9. Re:None have come to fruition? by sjames · · Score: 1

      And I bet the 'uninstall' process involves reflashing the device, too.

      Utter nonsense. Nothing short of cracking the case and soldering in a JTAG interface will remove that spawn of Satan.

  3. Maybe it might could by Hijacked+Public · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It is possible that 2011 might be a year in which there could be some unspecified increase in what could loosely be termed malware that might be targeted in whole or in part to infect certain devices that might be considered mobile devices under certain definitions of mobile or device.

    If you feel you have to lead off with a statement that your prediction is essentially the same one you've been making for the past six years and it has yet come true, maybe you should leave off setting a deadline for the thing.

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    1. Re:Maybe it might could by goldspider · · Score: 1, Funny

      "If you feel you have to lead off with a statement that your prediction is essentially the same one you've been making for the past six years and it has yet come true, maybe you should leave off setting a deadline for the thing."

      2011 is going to be the Year of the Linux Desktop.

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    2. Re:Maybe it might could by grcumb · · Score: 1

      It is possible that 2011 might be a year in which there could be some unspecified increase in what could loosely be termed malware that might be targeted in whole or in part to infect certain devices that might be considered mobile devices under certain definitions of mobile or device.

      Also: TERRORISTS!

      ... er, ooga booga.

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  4. Not really by Artem+S.+Tashkinov · · Score: 3, Insightful
    I haven't read the article but the summary seems to be somewhat exaggerated:
    • Mobile phones (OS) don't have any form of autorun
    • You cannot run .exe/.cmd/.com/.lnk attachment from e-mail
    • A lot of users still ... don't ever install a single extra app, and use their smartphone only as a contact list manager, calender and alarm clock
    • Unless Apple/Google becomes careless it's hard to believe that malware authors can (frequently) penetrate their app stores
    • There is still some variety: iPhoneOS/Android/RIM/W7 so malware writers can hardly target all platforms at once - so outbreaks are hardly possible
    1. Re:Not really by Monkeedude1212 · · Score: 2

      The first two are irrelevant.

      The remaining points can all be made irrelevant by the website that will jailbreak your iPhone using a PDF, all you have to do is swipe.

      Clearly there are some exploits you can hide to open up someone's Phone.

    2. Re:Not really by Lazareth · · Score: 1

      The rest begin like yours. Zing!

    3. Re:Not really by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      Most interestingly, it's relatively easy to make money with mobile phone malware. Just make the phone call a premium rate number and you've got free money. If you don't get greedy, you can probably make it just make a one-minute call and then delete itself. Get a few hundred thousand phones infected, and that's serious money...

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    4. Re:Not really by Abcd1234 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Mobile phones (OS) don't have any form of autorun

      So?

      You cannot run .exe/.cmd/.com/.lnk attachment from e-mail

      Correct. On the iPhone, you just had to visit a *website*, ffs.

      Seriously, this statement is beyond short-sighted. It's one zero-day vulnerability from being completely false.

      A lot of users still ... don't ever install a single extra app

      Again, who cares? All you need is a hole in one of the stock apps, and voila, users are hosed. Moreover, given how slow mobile phone operators are in updating the OSes on their network (the Android situation being the most obvious), a vulnerability like that could be a) near universal, and b) very slow to close.

      Unless Apple/Google becomes careless it's hard to believe that malware authors can (frequently) penetrate their app stores

      See above. This point is, well, pointless.

      There is still some variety: iPhoneOS/Android/RIM/W7 so malware writers can hardly target all platforms at once - so outbreaks are hardly possible

      Please... you need only target one of those platforms to hit millions and millions of people. That's by far lucrative enough to make it worthwhile.

      Frankly, I think the only reason you haven't seen this yet is because most malware is directed at turning a machine into a zombie, something for which a mobile device isn't that useful. But the minute someone can, for example, break an iOS device or Android device and start snarfing passwords, it'll become a far more interesting target.

    5. Re:Not really by Locutus · · Score: 1

      I read the first two points as meaning that their standard tools won't work and they'll have to find other vectors to exploit. As I mentioned elsewhere, there is lots more to be had on the Windows PC side so if anything, attack attempts should start off slowly as long as the NFC doesn't pick up and leave CC's #s wide open. IMO

      LoB

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    6. Re:Not really by AltairDusk · · Score: 1

      The iOS PDF exploit that enabled jailbreakme.com to work could run just from the user clicking a link.

    7. Re:Not really by Pootie+Tang · · Score: 1

      you haven't seen this yet is because most malware is directed at turning a machine into a zombie

      I admit to not reading the article, but this is my concern here. Is mobile malware the same definition?

      I have an android phone. Permissions are such I can tell if an app wants "unneeded" permissions in some cases. An (offline, single player) game that needs no permissions, or maybe wants to have "disk access" (save a little game state) sounds safe.

      On the other hand, certain apps (gmail, you name it) need lots of permissions for "legitimate" purposes. The problem is, just because an app might have good use for camera or GPS permissions, doesn't mean I can trust it to only read/store/send those values as I expect.

      I'm concerned about all the "free" apps that may collect information. I don't (yet anyway) have a good way to know whether they are behaving or not. I just have to trust that they do. And certain things, like my phone number, I can't necessarily just put in fake data for.

      There are lots of reports (many exaggerated) that talk about this already happening. I'm not sure to what extent, but I wouldn't doubt I've been "victimized" and just don't know it. If 2011 is the year I find out the hard way, I'm can't say it will be all that surprising.

      But yeah, I don't see "regular" (desktop) malware getting substantially worse on mobile in a short time frame.

      I'm not sure there's an easy fix for this either. Java applets allowed much more fine grained permissions, and it sucked ("Yes to all"). I think android is better, but I still want a way to override and (to the extent I trust the OS) have the OS enforce it.

    8. Re:Not really by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      His post actually begins exactly like the ones he's criticizing, with "I haven't read the article but".

      You're not exactly the sharpest pencil in the box, are you?

    9. Re:Not really by trollertron3000 · · Score: 0

      I think we have seen it but people aren't picking up the evidence. These apps focus on data collection, not botnet strength. They post links on facebook, they send out emails to friends, etc. I've had friends post spam links on FB after they've installed applications. They're out there.

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    10. Re:Not really by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      some do have autorun, some have autorun that's hard to setup, some autorun that's simple to setup, some autorun that needs crypto keys to use. some however do have autorun that you _want_ to use that relies on a exploit on the phone.

      however.. "2003 is going to be the year of the mobile malware, 2004 is going to be the year of the mobile malware, 2005 is going to be the year of mobile malware...", as long as I've been in the industry, the next year has always been that, the year of the malware. why? because antivirus companies push it to it magazines every single friggin year. why? because that's where they see growth, growth for their bottom line. do I know a single person who had trouble with mobile malware? no. usually it takes far too many confirmations to even install things you're interested in.

      in reality the threat is smaller than from autodialer malware in 1996. target operating systems and releases change rapidly too and are much more fragmented than on desktop side.

      the bigger threat to consumers during this time has been that there are people in big companies who think that a walled garden is a good system, because if you scale things on an excel sheet, a walled garden makes sense to bottom line. there were operators in market areas small as 10million people who were trying to build their own mobile ecosystems that they could fleece(failures all of them).

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  5. Yea by mrsteveman1 · · Score: 1

    I doubt this is going to be a repeat of Windows, where a combination of massive marketshare and blatant negligence on the part of Microsoft led to an epidemic of worms.

    But, there's also a very real threat, even on systems like iOS where users and even Apple assume that they have control of the platform, hackers prove them wrong constantly.

    For instance a month or 2 back, jailbreakers were able to just visit a website through mobile safari and execute one exploit after another to compromise the entire system and install unapproved software like Cydia. That's a rare alignment of exploits, but who can really say it won't happen again via a malicious attacker?

    1. Re:Yea by AltairDusk · · Score: 1

      For instance a month or 2 back, jailbreakers were able to just visit a website through mobile safari and execute one exploit after another to compromise the entire system and install unapproved software like Cydia. That's a rare alignment of exploits, but who can really say it won't happen again via a malicious attacker?

      The most amusing part of that was walking through the local Apple store and noticing Cydia on one of the iphones. Checked the rest of them and realized someone had gone around and jailbroken every iphone in the store, I got a good laugh out of that.

  6. Isnt that now? by pablo_max · · Score: 1

    I seem to recall a similar prognoses at the end of last year. Seems not to have happened. I suspect the trend will continue.

  7. Got rid of my BB. by Ismellpoop · · Score: 0

    To much money on phone bills.
    5 minutes for it to start.
    Random crashes for no reason (particularly media player).
    The actual telephone part of it had so many quirks it was only semi usable as a phone.
    Internet was dodgy at best and I live next (2 miles) to a new tower .
    I got a new phone like my old one from 4-5 years ago couldn't be happier but now I have a BB Storm that's basically an mp3 player and did I mention media player crashes a lot requiring a 5 min reboot

    1. Re:Got rid of my BB. by jeffmeden · · Score: 1

      Quit doing it wrong. I had a storm for a year and a half and aside from the time it took to perform routine software updates it was hassle-free as a phone, media player, and everything else.

    2. Re:Got rid of my BB. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To fix this -

      1) Back up phone

      2) Factory reset phone

      My girlfriend's old BB used to have similar problems, and resetting it would cure it. Until it started doing it again in a couple months, then just repeat when necesary.

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  9. Re:I'm in trouble by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Uh, could you elaborate? Was it malware, or just so good that you don't think you can quit playing?

  10. Are you suggesting that... by Fibe-Piper · · Score: 3, Funny

    the Windows Mobile aka WinPhone will really take off in 2011

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    1. Re:Are you suggesting that... by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

      In the news today, MS would have already sold 1.5 million win7 phones... (according to MS).

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    2. Re:Are you suggesting that... by Capt.DrumkenBum · · Score: 1

      the Windows Mobile aka WinPhone will really take off in 2011

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  11. Glad my phone is dumb by cpu6502 · · Score: 1

    Nokia 2115i. It makes calls and sends texts. That's it. Not even internet access or a camera. (Though it does have a flashlight.) No need to fear viruses or spyware.

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    1. Re:Glad my phone is dumb by Lazareth · · Score: 1

      Your phone sends and receives data which it to some extent manipulates. While unlikely that you'll ever have any problem, don't think yourself safe ;)

    2. Re:Glad my phone is dumb by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Go use a typewriter and pocket calculator instead of a computer then. It's surely dumber but you have no need to fear viruses or spyware will damage the ink tape or the 8 digit LCD display.

    3. Re:Glad my phone is dumb by Chris+Tucker · · Score: 1

      My HP-45 calculator has a 10 digit LED display, you insensitive clod!

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  12. 2011 will be the year of.... by eepok · · Score: 1

    ... rampant blogosphere speculation about everything. Just like the year before it.

    year of...

    Year Of...

    YEAR OF!!!!

    Holy crap, get over it! Stuff will happen next year. Some of that stuff will be expected. Of that expected stuff, some will live live up to expectations while the other will not. And there will be surprises!

  13. Symbians by Himring · · Score: 1

    "The mobile component, which targeted Symbian Series 60 devices or BlackBerrys, intercepted one-time passcodes used to verify transactions."

    So that thing can be used for banking too? Huh, I'll tell my wife....

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    1. Re:Symbians by natehoy · · Score: 1

      There's a substantial penalty for early withdrawal, though.

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  14. In first by mark72005 · · Score: 1

    It's been on MY desktop since 199x!

    1. Re:In first by perpenso · · Score: 1

      <snoot>It's been on MY desktop since 199x! </snoot>

      I don't think dual booting counts in the "year of" context. And I say this as a Linux user since 1994, I even have the Yddrasil plug-and-play CD to prove it. ;-)

  15. Re:Who cares? by shadowrat · · Score: 1

    and as smart phones become more powerful more people use them for actual work. I have worked on many mobile apps that are used for on site surveys, audits, and other data collection. My own opinion of the value of that data isn't really very high, but i know my clients would freak out if their iphones crashed and the data was lost. In that event, i would say, "well I tell you to upload the data on a regular basis and it should be in your most recent backup, you do back up your phone, right?"

    I know sales people who's contact list IS their life. I've become reliant on the iphone app 1Password to store my passwords. I have a number of drawings in audodesk sketchbook i wouldn't want to lose. Now, i back my shit up. Anything that brings down my phone is likely only a minor inconvenience, but there are plenty of people who could be seriously affected. The real question should be is 2011 the year when smart phones become so important that malware is a real threat?

  16. DIE by mark72005 · · Score: 4, Funny

    do you know how hard I worked on my Angry Birds scores?

    1. Re:DIE by Pootie+Tang · · Score: 1

      Yes, in fact we do. We also know how hard everyone else in your contact list worked on their Angry Birds scores. And we're selling it for big money soon.

      Just kidding here, but that's my real concern with this.

  17. Re:I'm in trouble by mark72005 · · Score: 1

    My brief foray in android led me to believe those non-marketplace apps often had memory leaks and slowed my phone down considerably.

  18. Re:Who cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    if you don't know your banking password or have it stored on your phone, you're doing it wrong. google docs auto-saves frequently and is "cloud" based so you'll lose very little. online store passwords are easily recoverable. you haven't really negated the original post's points.

  19. That's not really a problem by Yvan256 · · Score: 1

    The mobile component, which targeted Symbian Series 60 devices or BlackBerrys, intercepted one-time passcodes used to verify transactions.

    It doesn't really matter since passwords are already the weakest link in online security.

  20. Of course not. by Haedrian · · Score: 1

    2011 is the year of Linux on netbooks. Or was that desktops. Anyway, I'm sure its a year of something linux related...

    1. Re:Of course not. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      2011 is the year of Linux on netbooks. Or was that desktops. Anyway, I'm sure its a year of something linux related...

      Yes, you are correct - 2011 will be the "year that desktop users not only continue to ignore Linux, but tell those annoying twits that keep trying to get them to switch to Linux to get the hell out of their basement".

    2. Re:Of course not. by Haedrian · · Score: 1

      That sounds like 2010 to me. And 2009. And maybe a bit earlier...

  21. new in the drug market... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    tylenol's new pill for textually transmitted diseases.

  22. Re:Who cares? by couchslug · · Score: 2

    "...and passwords for your bank, online stores, Google (Docs (where you're writing your half-finished novel))..."

    That sort of fuckup could be regarded as "LARTing by events". I don't leave passwords or important work on my phone. Ever.

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  23. Re:I'm in trouble by joe2tiger · · Score: 0

    I regret the install and uninstalled the app, but I'm sure they mined for data I gave up.

  24. Already happening! by Jeppe+Salvesen · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Our apps are already watching us beyond what we've authorized. How is that not malware?

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  25. So the big question is by Dee+Ann_1 · · Score: 1

    How can I install a firewall and AV software on my iPhone 3gs ?

    I've unlocked and jailbroken it so I can customize it MY way and use it on the carrier of MY choice but I really want more than just a wink and a promise from Apple that I'm safe.

  26. With android... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    2011 will be the year of viruses on linux!

  27. will Windows Phone 7 be _that_ popular in 2011 by Locutus · · Score: 1

    http://blogs.mcafee.com/mcafee-labs/windows-mobile-trojan-sends-unauthorized-information-and-leaves-device-vulnerable

    it is possible but it is not like the market of Windows PCs has shrunken significantly so there's plenty to continue feeding on there as opposed to trying to attack low resource embedded devices like phones.

    LoB

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    1. Re:will Windows Phone 7 be _that_ popular in 2011 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Really? Your best jibe at Windows Phone 7 is a link to a three year old trojan? Heck, that was back when Microsoft was still trying to convince people that Vista wasn't really all that bad...

    2. Re:will Windows Phone 7 be _that_ popular in 2011 by Locutus · · Score: 1

      That was the last time Windows had enough market share on mobile devices to care. The increase in mobile device market share and numbers is the basis of the OP. Besides, it shows this is not new.

      regarding the Vista comment, FYI, Microsoft is always trying to convince people that their products aren't really all that bad.

      LoB

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    3. Re:will Windows Phone 7 be _that_ popular in 2011 by cbhacking · · Score: 1

      Bullshit alert:

      Windows Mobile (PocketPC) malware (Trojans, specifically) have nothing at all to do with Windows Phone 7. The application runtimes are completely different, and application sideloading is very limited on WP7 anyhow (which I personally dislike, but which nonetheless makes Trojans rather difficult to spread). There was definitely malware for WinMo, but that's a dying platform. Besides, any OS that allows users to install/run arbitrary software will have Trojans; it's happened to every significant platform including "secure" ones like OS X and Linux. WinPhone7 might be exploitable - no information on that yet - but it's not going to be easy to install a Trojan.

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    4. Re:will Windows Phone 7 be _that_ popular in 2011 by Locutus · · Score: 1

      That might be true but it'll have to get some traction before that can really be tested. So it's more like a bullshit warning than a bullshit alert.

      It really was a dumb article considering how many iPhone,Androids and Blackberrys have already been shipped. The only thing very new for 2011 is Windows Phone 7. Time will tell.

      LoB

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  28. Not without a monoculture. by Zaphod-AVA · · Score: 1

    Malware is profitable when it can infect a huge number of systems. Without a monoculture of mobile operating systems malware isn't profitable enough to develop.

    1. Re:Not without a monoculture. by AltairDusk · · Score: 1

      I suspect the amount of people with iPhones or Android devices is high enough that it would still be profitable to get malware on either one of those platforms. iPhone would probably get you the most in a short time but Android may work better long term as some of the carriers are horrible about issuing updates.

  29. but... by Aerorae · · Score: 1

    didn't they ask us this last year? This question feels awfully familiar...

  30. It's about 2-factor authentication... by js_sebastian · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The mobile component, which targeted Symbian Series 60 devices or BlackBerrys, intercepted one-time passcodes used to verify transactions.

    It doesn't really matter since passwords are already the weakest link in online security.

    It's not that type of password. You are already logged in to your banking site using username and password. Then you decide to send money to someone, and one of the ways of doing 2-factor authentication available to you is to have the bank send you a 1-time password by SMS, which you then type into the computer. The one-time password is bound to the specific transaction you were requesting, and the sms contains some information about the transaction (like the destination account number and amount), so if the account number or amount is not what you wanted you know something is wrong.

    So unless the bad guys have malware on your phone AND on your pc, they can't steal your money.

    Of course, this is in europe. In the US two-factor authentication means password+"what is your mother's maiden name". And no, this is not a random anti-american rant. Most US banks still do not have 2-factor authentication, while all that I know of in europe do, in some form or another. Also, a security guy from a US bank I spoke to at a conference told me they don't do two factor authentication because users don't want to remember more passwords (thus proving he does not understand what is 2-factor authentication). Also, he said that when you want to do something "suspicious" like sending money to a new destination, they start to ask you security questions (like "what is your mother's maiden name").

    1. Re:It's about 2-factor authentication... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      FWIW, I have accounts with 4 US banks. Every one has a two-factor authentication system identical to the one you described.

    2. Re:It's about 2-factor authentication... by IchBinEinPenguin · · Score: 1

      So unless the bad guys have malware on your phone AND on your pc, they can't steal your money.

      Unless you're doing your banking from your Internet-enabled smart-phone...

    3. Re:It's about 2-factor authentication... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For what it's worth, I'm very familiar with the technology behind the authentication that many US banks are using. Most online banks do have additional security beyond the fake 'second' factor of secret questions. The technologies have specifically been designed to be most concerned with usability for the generally stupid end users while catching the vast majority of fraud. Banks have no interest in sending one time pass tokens or SMS messages to every single customer for every login because it will confuse a large number resulting in more calls to the call centers, which costs them even more $$$. In addition the most advanced trojans and malware get around these methods anyway.

      There's an accepted fraud cost of doing banking online. Many banks have done a very good job of putting in the right type of security to minimize it while providing a good customer experience. Some have managed to fuck up security so that it's not only more of a pain in the ass for their customers, but is also easier to be bypassed or social engineered.

  31. Re:I'm in trouble by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I just installed Hero of Sparta, non-market place game for free. I swear, that's the last non-market place app I'll install on my phone.

    Why, did it change your restaurant finding apps to only show "Hell" as an option for dining? ;)

  32. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

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  33. Yes it will. by goombah99 · · Score: 2

    But not for the reasons given. If you go to light in a box and browse all the android 2.1 pads for sale, all of them warn you not to attempt to re-install or change the OS. this warning is not given for some propriatary reason but simply because there is no assure path to a perfectly safe re-install of the android software and drivers.

    Thus there are going to ba a gazillion android pads walking around that cannot be patched. It's a safe bet there are security holes to be discovered in this. Once that happens it's going to be like windows has been with the sea of mobile zombies.

    The iphones are different. You are constantly offered updates. (which brings up the problem with jailbreaking-- you can't update easily for fear of busting the jailbreak.)

    Now phones may be a different matter. If the phone companies are able to push updates it may be a lot safer.

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    1. Re:Yes it will. by icebike · · Score: 1

      Wrong.

      The warning about re-install has nothing to do with an "assured path to perfectly re-install".

      It has everything to do with carrier lock downs, and to a lesser extent with manufacturer locked downs.

      As for their inability to be patched, that too is FUD. They can and do receive OTA or wifi system upgrades and patches as needed.

      Check your zipper. Your Apple Fanboy is showing.

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    2. Re:Yes it will. by mlts · · Score: 1

      He does have a point though -- Some Android device makers tend to be lazy when making updates available for their platform, so compared to advertising a device that hasn't shipped, fixing holes on already sold equipment is quite low on their priority list.

      The ironic thing -- Android's update mechanism is standalone. When the updates do arrive, they are either already pushed to the device, or easily downloaded via OTA. Contrast this to iOS devices which must be updated via iTunes.

      Backing down from an update is also a different story. With tools like ROM Manager and others, it is easy to back up, install a new/updated ROM, and if it doesn't work, roll back. A restore from an iOS device can take a long time, especially if one has a lot of transcoded music files. To boot, unless you use TinyUmbrella and save your SHSH files, you can't go back to an older firmware level.

  34. Mobile Malware? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I thought 2011 was going to be the year of the Linux Desktop

  35. Re:I'm in trouble by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Slowed your phone down? Likely. Memory leaks, probably not. For anyone that has programmed in the Java-esque Android environment, they know that dealing with memory is simple and leaks don't ever happen!

  36. Isn't 2011 the year of the Linux desktop? by sourcerror · · Score: 1

    I feel confused. Hey, if you're at it make it the year of reading too.

  37. Users != aware by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Users — while generally aware of threats aimed at their desktop computers and laptops — have a good chance of being caught flat-footed with their mobile phones

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I stopped reading after this sentance.

  38. Re:I'm in trouble by mark72005 · · Score: 1

    Thought slowdown and increased battery consumption were the cost of using non-market applications.

  39. Re:Who cares? by icebike · · Score: 1

    Its not about losing work to a systems crash or phone splash down in the toilet bowl.

    Its about content being stolen by malware.

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  40. Driven by smartphones with not-advanced OS' by gig · · Score: 1

    Advanced operating systems are maintained in such a way that they don't run malware, for example, they are updated automatically so regularly that there is a disincentive to create malware, same as you get rid of graffiti with a regimen of immediately painting it over. Mac OS and iOS, for example. It's the not-advanced operating systems which are easy targets, graffiti magnets.

  41. Re:Who cares? by icebike · · Score: 1

    I don't leave passwords or important work on my phone. Ever.

    Well you will. So get used to it.

    Probably they will be in an encrypted password vault, dozens of which are available for Android or iPhone.

    Your credit cards will be moving to the phone. Tap to pay terminals are springing up everywhere. Near Field Communication chips are being introduced into cell phones. They are already HUGE in Japan.

    You will still need to password enable payment, but you won't be carrying a wallet full of risky credit cards in the future.

    And those digital car keys? The rush to push button ignition is just to prep you for that being triggered by the presence of your phone as well.

    Its all going into the phone, my friend, so get use to it.

    The Amish won't use Electricity. Don't be that guy.

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  42. Re:Who cares? by couchslug · · Score: 1

    "Well you will. So get used to it."

    Asserted conclusions /= proof.

    "Probably they will be in an encrypted password vault, dozens of which are available for Android or iPhone."

    Mine will be unused.

    "Your credit cards will be moving to the phone. Tap to pay terminals are springing up everywhere. Near Field Communication chips are being introduced into cell phones. They are already HUGE in Japan."

    I give a shit what is HUGE in Japan?

    "You will still need to password enable payment, but you won't be carrying a wallet full of risky credit cards in the future."

    I don't carry a wallet full of risky credit cards NOW. One card, that's it. No debit cards, which I will not have.

    "And those digital car keys? The rush to push button ignition is just to prep you for that being triggered by the presence of your phone as well."

    I'm a mechanic. If my old PATS system annoys me the PCM will be flashed with a "PATS delete", No problem

    "Its all going into the phone, my friend, so get use to it."

    I welcome other folks getting used to it. I spent my life learning how to make most of the tech I use serve me and see no reason to stop.

    "The Amish won't use Electricity. Don't be that guy."

    Blind technophilia /= "Amish".

    One may choose from a wide variety of tech in ones personal life, Amish tech or computing tech any anything in-between.

    It's all about "serving me". MY convenience, MY wants, not the wants of marketroids. OTHER people exist for them to fuck, which is fine with me.

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  43. On attacking "all platforms at once"? Big deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "iPhoneOS/Android/RIM/W7 so malware writers can hardly target all platforms at once" - by Artem Tashkinov (764309) on Wednesday December 22, @10:45AM (#34641654)

    As long as the phones in question run a BSD based IP stack, then, , they already have a defense built in. That defense is a HOSTS file (all the user has to do is fill it with data for blocking out known bad sites/servers/hosts-domain names etc.).

    HOSTS work on the "blacklist" principal here: You block out the bad sites, you can't enter them. You can't enter them, you cannot be infected/infested - simple.

    Not only that, but you can block out adbanners that eat up bandwidth (and have been known to infect you more than a few times over the years now).

    You can also speed up access to your fav. sites using HOSTS also, hosts work on the "whitelist" principle here

    (In doing the latter, you also avoid DNS request tracking logs too (in avoiding using DNS altogether for those said favs of yours), you also avoid downed/crashed DNS servers & you still reach your fav. sites, PLUS you additionally/lastly avoid DNS redirected/poisoned (or otherwise hijacked) DNS servers also).

    APK

    P.S.=> I've already done this on an ANDROID phone, it works excellently for better online SPEED, SECURITY, & even a "touch of added extra 'anonymity'" too (via the ADB (android debugging bridge) & it's PUSH/PULL commands (after mounting the system mountpoint with READ + WRITE priveleges), loading a 24.5mb size HOSTS file, & seeing it work well for the purposes I noted above) & pre-built HOSTS files are out there, & they're regularly updated, such as this one -> http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm ... apk

  44. On Symbian malware/exploits by Rexdude · · Score: 1

    I've used Nokias exclusively for the last 6 years. S60 2nd edition allowed you to install any apps from anywhere, and there were quite a few trojans and other apps written for it, around 2004-05.
    S60 3rd edition made it harder to do so by requiring all apps to be signed by Symbian, and earlier they only gave out certificates to companies rather than individuals. Nevertheless, there were (are) ways to self sign an install package (a .SIS file) and then install it.
    Even then - the phone warns you that the application is not signed, so there's no way anything can silently install itself without user intervention.
    The second most common vector for exploits is the browser. No matter what short sighted US tech blogs may say - Symbian is the world's most widely used OS, with over 2 billion devices sold to date. How come we haven't yet seen a browser based exploit for the internal Webkit browser?
    A google search for 'Symbian 3rd edition malware' shows up hardly one or two examples - and reading the descriptions, they rely on social engineering to fool the user into getting installed.

    The same rules apply as on desktop OSes - namely not to open/install unknown applications etc. What would be worrisome would be a browser exploit, where just visiting a link can compromise your phone, or some sort of silently installed malware. The former has yet to be proved and the latter can only happen through (all too common) user stupidity, so this leads me to conclude that Symbian at least is safe for the present.
    Also bear in mind that Nokia pushes out firmware updates much more regularly than other phone manufacturers; even upto 2 years after launch (the 5800 Xpressmusic is a case in point), so you can expect security fixes, if found, to be available faster. Sucks to be in the US with a carrier subsidized handset though.

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  45. Security sw peddlers are becoming desperate by S3D · · Score: 1

    With PC sales on decline they are looking for new markets. They crying wolf for several years already. That kind of FUD provoked Nokia to introduce digital signing for Symbian OS apps, which effectively killed developers community. That caused Symbian OS becoming increasingly irrelevant and eventually caused its death(or at least zombification). Which in turn destabilized Nokia position and could be cause of the death of Nokia itself.

  46. Gartner = BullShit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    according to statistics published last month by analyst firm Gartner

    That line right there shows this is total bullshit paid for by someone trying to sell AV for phones. Anytime I read a line like above with the word "Gartner" in it I don't believe a word of it.

  47. Symbian by dwater · · Score: 1

    ...had malware years ago, but they introduced measures to stamp them out. This was the move from Symbian 7 to Symbian 8. IINM, this was the reason for the introduction of capabilities.

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