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New IE Zero Day
RebootKid writes "Microsoft has released a notice about
a new zero day attack against Internet Explorer. Guess it's going to be more a 'Script Kiddie Christmas,' less of a 'White Christmas.' 'Ok, fess up — who asked for an IE 0 day for Christmas? I'm guessing Santa got his lumps of coal mixed up with a bag of exploits. This exploit has been discussed over the last day or so on full disclosure and a number of other sites. Metasploit already has a module available for it (just search for CSS & IE). Microsoft has put out an advisory 2488013 regarding the issue which manifests itself when a specially crafted web page is used and could result in remote code execution on the client.'"
Merry Xmas
If you felt the story was newsworthy, I have no doubt that it was submitted in a form that was better than this one, or that you could have re-wrote it.
UGH ain't pirates taught you anything yet
Kind of bad that the folks at SANS dont even know the difference between a "0 day" and simply "a really bad exploit". If its not being utilized yet, and the first notice came from MS, it is in no way a 0 day.
or at least it's not on the list.
We're in 2010. How come we still have something as simple as a godamn webpage able to make the system run arbitrary code on the OS itself?
What about memory-checking, array boundaries, etc? This isn't 1985, systems are so complex that nobody can know it from top to bottom, they don't only have 64KB and they don't run a single program anymore.
My Netscape Dialup requires Internet Explorer to work with its compression software. But knowing how IE operates, I decided to give Firefox, Seamonkey, and Opera a spin. Opera and its Turbo work great.
Then I uninstalled IE. So happily this 0-day exploit is a non-issue for me. I advise all my coworkers, when the topic comes up, to stop using IE and switch to any other browser. Some look at me like I'm nuts, but IE is still the #1 browser and biggest target for viruses/malware/thieves.
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." - historian Evelyn Beatrice Hall
It's noteworthy, because while you and I don't use IE, we support tens, hundreds, or thousands of people that do. Therefore, we like to be informed about what's going on and what we can expect, especially if it will impact our Christmas vacation.
With that said, I still use IE often, even though Chrome is my browser of choice. Don't get me started on Firefox. If malware can be defined as an app that sucks every last megabyte of usable RAM, then Firefox is malware.
Microsoft is not being entirely straightforward in their report. This is not an IE bug. It is a .Net bug in mscorie.dll. Mscorie.dll is not required by IE. (IE works just fine, so to speak, without .Net.)
Just don't put this on the Christmas Elves or Elf Bowling sites.... Let's see, risk factors:
* Tech-clueless relative just got their first computer for Christmas. "Chooses" I.E. as browser. Drawn in by Elf Bowling. There's a virus on your computer, click here!
Oh, man....
And related to what an earlier poster said, why is it that we need to use Internet Explorer in order to update our Windows boxes? I still find that a little bit anti-trust.
To borrow from 2001: My God--it's full of holes!
I don't use technology X and therefor nobody else does! LALALALALALA NOT LISTENING
Is it a slow news day? ;)
Next you are going to say there are some unpatched vulnerabilities in IE.
Well the (+1 score) is that they have called for using the “The Enhanced Mitigation Experience Toolkit” (EMET) tool to mitigate the problem. The bigger question is why is EMET not a part of the OS proper? If the EMET tool is capable of solving this problem then why the &83$$@# didn't they force an install of EMET to solve all the Adobe issues? Why are they NOT stepping forward to fix all the third party application security issues?
What security features can you add with EMET?
Dynamic Data Execution Prevention (DEP)
Structure Exception Handler Overwrite Protection (SEHOP)
Heap Spray Allocation
Null Page Allocation
Export Address Table Access Filtering
Mandatory Address Space Layout Randomization (ASLR)
Now I have several questions, like why is this not part of the OS? Why is it not a default where these can be turned off on a case by case basis? Have untrusted browser plugins? And why isn't Flash/acrobat/shockwave forced to run under it? Admittedly Acrobat-X (sandboxed version of Acrobat) is a step in the right direction, but wouldn't it be better to have all applications turned on by default?
The Enhanced Mitigation Experience Toolkit 2.0 is Now Available
http://tinyurl.com/28znulg
I thought that zero day means that somebody uses it in a attack and it appears that it hasn't been known before the said attack. Public Disclosure automatically disqualifies it as zero-day.
Can someone please tell me how does these exploits normally work?
1. Victim visits webpage with malicious code.
2. Attacker execute code on victim machine.
3?
4?
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But what kind of remote code do they execute, is it some kind of program already installed ?
Do they make you download some program and execute it silently?
Does all these only works when victim has (good)firewall installed?
And this is noteworthy why?
Because a significant number of people on Slashdot are security geeks and enjoy learning about exploits, or are sysadmins that manage at least some machines where the users can get to IE.
And this is noteworthy why? How many Slashdotters use Internet Explorer for anything other than the occasional WindowsUpdate in XP? This may be News for Nerds, but it hardly matters. Everyone here knows very well that Internet Explorer is too dangerous for general Web use. That Microsoft is suffering yet another security failure doesn't really elicit much interest from me, I must say.
Firstly, a serious security vulnerability in a popular (for whatever reason) software tool is always noteworthy, if just for the fact that it's interesting. Secondly, the overall state of IE is large enough to affect everyone in some way or another. And finally, numerous people here administer systems or have friends and family that may run or require Internet Explorer, and such a bulletin could certainly prove useful to them to prevent this attack from damaging those they (are paid to) care about.
It irks me that there are better options than Explorer readily available, but so many people just don't care enough about their own security and privacy to avail themselves of those options. It's not like paying through the nose for an anti-virus product: these things are free to use! I feel less and less sorry for Explorer users every day, having heard all the excuses ("it doesn't look like Explorer, my favorite free-malware-site doesn't like it, it's too hard to install, I'm too stupid to use a computer, and so on ad infinitum.) It's not as if the likes of Firefox, Chrome and Opera are hard to find, or aren't in the public's eye nowadays. Hell, a few months ago a major U.S. bank issued a warning recommending that its customers eschew Explorer in favor of anything else and further recommended that any online banking be done in anything but Windows (preferably Linux/Unix.) Of course, the month after that they made another public statement to the effect that they would only support Internet Explorer (note: they didn't follow through on that threat. I got the distinct impression that it was a "left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing" situation.)
I've met smart people who think that Internet Explorer is the Internet. They don't know or care what a browser is. Technology, Internet included, is just another tool, and it needs to work correctly. To tell someone like this to get another browser is not feasible; without a long explanation, they will never like the idea of switching from something that is (or appears to be) working to something different.
Approaching someone and taking the time to explain the situation and answer their questions is the only way to make a transition sit comfortably with them. Unfortunately, people "in-the-know" don't have the time or desire to address the remaining population. The best effort I've seen to address the non-technical public is Google's "get a faster browser" button on their home page, and even then I've heard those who say "well, mine is fast enough". Someone has to explain things and answer their questions.
I've encountered pretty popular attitude that viruses only exist on shady websites (e.g., gambling, and porn) and that caring about or addressing security is not only unnecessary, but also an admission of one's intention to visit such sites. Once again, the only way to break past this is to take the time to sit down, explain things, and answer questions.
Short of prosthelytizing nerd squads going door-to-door, there's not much that can be done. Microsoft got themselves into this biased market mess by aggressively pushing IE and locking out other browsers, and they are wholly responsible for keeping their shit together. Maybe someone should sue them for damages.
Also, keep in mind that serious flaws have been found in Firefox, Safari, and Chrome. IE, like Windows, is targeted more heavily than other browsers due to its market share. If IE is ditched en masse, I would bet money on the number of flaws in other browsers growing significantly higher. This doesn't absolve Microsoft (see previous paragraph), but it does suggest that the problem is larger than IE and attitude.
Despite the jokey look, the history is still serious.. very very serious.
How many slashdotters support many users who refuse to use anything other than IE despite our insistence and warnings and enabling them to use another browser. So, knowing that there is a new 0 day is newsworthy and relevant to our interests.
Maybe the majority of slashdotters are on firefox, chrome, opera right now, but the software we're developing may only work on IE. The Network admins will need to deal with their users using IE. And a lot of our relatives are still using IE
When your aunt Bertha calls on christmas and goes "MY INTERNET IS BROKEN", i'll be able to go "ah yea, I remember reading about that on slashdot".
Global warming and other natural disasters are a direct effect of the shrinking number of pirates - Gospel of the FSM
Yeah, well, posting 5 sentences of "MICROSOFT R TEH SUX LOLOLOLOL WHO WANTED 0-DAY FOR XMAS LOLOLOLOL" doesn't really convey that impression to me.
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Microsoft got themselves into this biased market mess by aggressively pushing IE and locking out other browsers,
Wha? Since when did Microsoft "lock out" other browsers?
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Microsoft has released a notice about a new zero day attack against Internet Explorer.
And this is noteworthy why? How many Slashdotters use Internet Explorer for anything other than the occasional WindowsUpdate in XP? This may be News for Nerds, but it hardly matters. Everyone here knows very well that Internet Explorer is too dangerous for general Web use. That Microsoft is suffering yet another security failure doesn't really elicit much interest from me, I must say.
Weeellllll, that's the stereotype, sure, but the on-the-ground reality paints a different picture.
Surely you've noticed that Firefox 3.6 is up to its 13th point release since January,and #14 is just around the corner. The first Secunia security advisory for this browser was issued within weeks of its initial release, and there now have been 11 in total, covering 85 separate vulnerabilities in Firefox 3.6. Look at SA42517 for an example, which was published two weeks ago. In that one advistory alone, 13 different security bugs are addressed, covering a wide variety of attack vectors like large Javascript arrays and large parameters to document.write(). And when you look at the fixes made in source control to patch these bugs, you sometimes scratch your head and wonder, how the fuck did they miss that when coding it?
But the problem with Firefox is worse than that. On Windows and Mac OS X, users are prompted over and over again to install these point updates. It requires elevation to Administrator privileges, and it requires restarting the browser. I see people routinely ignoring these updates because it'd interrupt what they're doing..... and the web server logs I have access to are a mishmash of Firefox browser versions.
This is a browser with 25% of the worldwide marketshare -- more than any version of Internet Explorer save for version 8.
So.... how about Google Chrome, you say? Their patching setup is far superior (that's why I use it), but it's not like the browser is any better-written. Just this month there have already been eighteen disclosed security vulnerabilities. And that's only slightly worse than average for a month in Chrome land. There are actually a number of Google Chrome bugs which are marked as only affecting the Linux version, too. Look at CVE-2010-4041 for an example of what I mean.
What I'm trying to say here is this -- Internet Explorer's security profile isn't significantly different than the other major vendors. They all have poorly-coded browsers that focused on packing the features in, without taking due consideration to the safety of the code they're writing. If you want to single out Microsoft for criticism, let's talk about the fact that they take so long to get these fixes out, and that reboots are often required to get the patches in place. That's where Firefox and especially Chrome are ahead.
Microsoft got themselves into this biased market mess by aggressively pushing IE and locking out other browsers,
Wha? Since when did Microsoft "lock out" other browsers?
Sorry for the ambiguity; I was referring to locking them out of the browser market via aggressive pushing, default installation in the most popular operating system, IE-only web sites due to standards deviations, inseparable integration with the host operating system, and use of (at the time) Microsoft-only APIs for optimizations, plug-ins, and media capabilities. People always have had a choice, but Microsoft used every bit of their considerable influence and position to make that choice for them, causing an effective "lock out".
I didn't use the term appropriately, and I would retract if it I could; s/locking out/thoroughly defeating/g. My point was that by becoming the dominant product in the market and accepting that role, Microsoft also inherited the responsibility for operating as a major player in securing that market, and they have grossly failed in this role.
The summary is childish, but more importantly, it is NOT EVEN FUNNY!!!
Exactly what I thought...
Seven Days with Ubuntu Unity
more outline and summary of the article, its content, affected users and payload. bonus points for countermeasures to employ.
less goofy references to your fucking holidays.
sincerely,
the overworked windows administrator trying to use slashdot for an intended purpose.
Good people go to bed earlier.
Ah, I agree.
The cynical person in me would say that the dominance of IE is at least half of the blame on Mozilla's disastrous decision to re-write Netscape from scratch, resulting in them having literally no way of competing with Microsoft. (It's also telling that IE won against Netscape on the Macintosh, a platform which wasn't subject to the biases you mentioned.)
I mean, if you want Microsoft to write good software, you need to compete with them-- that's just how it works. No competition to Microsoft = no effort from Microsoft.
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And this is noteworthy why?
Because a significant number of people on Slashdot are security geeks and enjoy learning about exploits, or are sysadmins that manage at least some machines where the users can get to IE.
Or you work as a lowly developer or IT Grunt Technician a company where you are pretty strictly IE only - based on policies set forth by Vice Presidents who don't know how technology works.
When I went to a 64-bit OS I decided I'd force DEP on. Windows actually has 4 DEP modes: always off, always on, opt in, opt out. It just only shows the opt in and opt out choices in the GUI. So I turned it on. After all, this was some time since DEP had come about, figured things would be fine.
Wrong answer. Tons of apps bombed on DEP errors. Seems lots of apps like to execute from memory they forgot to mark for code. I tried the opt out mode for a bit, figuring that I'd just add the apps that were problems, but it got to be too much since you have to do it by hand (there isn't an "add exception" button in the error or anything), some apps had multiple sub apps that had to be added, and of course it isn't like apps would always just fail to execute, sometimes they'd run fine until you were in them and working, then bomb (audio apps with plugins were notorious for this).
So now my computer is in the default op in state, meaning only apps that ask for DEP get it. Not as secure, but such is life. Good news is as far as I can tell all my apps that run at any privilege above user DO use DEP so that's nice.
Botnets! Worldwide botnets!
What kind of boxes are on on botnets?
Compaq, HP, Dell and Sony, true!
Gateway, Packard Bell, maybe even Asus, too.
Are boxes! Found on botnets!
All running Windows. FOO!
Why, yes! Yes I Am a smug, OS X using bastard!
How kind of you to notice!
Guaranteed! This comment 100% Anthrax free!
And then you go: "But Aunt Bertha, it's Christmas, I can't help you today."
Seven Days with Ubuntu Unity
It is also important to take note that IE is the second most secure browser after chrome, as it is the only one to make full use of WIC(Windows Integrity Controls), although does not have the sandboxing that Chrome has.
If you ignore ACs because they are anonymous - you're an idiot.
And you're still a troll.
Different poster here.
Whether you use Windows, Linux, MacOS, BeOS, Android...
If you aren't paying attention to what you're doing, you deserve the consequences.
That goes for everyone.
And, that said and given the myriad alternatives, Internet Explorer just plain sucks the 1 bit.
Ah, I agree.
The cynical person in me would say that the dominance of IE is at least half of the blame on Mozilla's disastrous decision to re-write Netscape from scratch, resulting in them having literally no way of competing with Microsoft.
You fail to mention that Netscape (4.x) was in no way or shape capable of beating IE. It was a pile of crap. IE went into dominant position because it was a so much better browser starting at IE4.
(It's also telling that IE won against Netscape on the Macintosh, a platform which wasn't subject to the biases you mentioned.)
Well, this is not the case anymore. Again, they won because they had no worthy competition.
I mean, if you want Microsoft to write good software, you need to compete with them-- that's just how it works. No competition to Microsoft = no effort from Microsoft.
But they did make lots and lots of efforts to wipe Netscape out of the map. They did succeed because Netscape had such an horrendous product AND because they did all they could for it to go away, not counting technical superiority.
Write boring code, not shiny code!
If the software you're developing only works in IE, someone somewhere made a bad decision. Also, how does my Aunt Bertha know you? ;)
No, you haven't.
Peter predicted that you would "deliberately forget" creation 2000 years ago...
Loving the fact that most (all?) of those threads from that Bing search were just you screaming in all-caps and bold into the abyss. That pcreview thread was 8 pages of you being ignored. Nobody cares about your 16MB hosts file or 85.706 CIS score. Nobody.
This is you:
http://www.timecube.com/
You have wasted your life.
Or have a relative who is guaranteed to get all the latest malware, and will have to remove it while home for the holidays.
Any ideas on how I can get out of it this year?
Not to mention that he’s been banned on multiple sites & forums for sock-puppeting to sing his praises, including writing fake reviews for himself. He also has a few /. sock-puppets – MEK LoveBug, the kings jokwers, and kingsjokers – with whose presence he might grace us if we get him especially pissed off. (Though it looks like the old ones haven’t spoken up for a while now – maybe they were banned, or he forgot the passwords for them.)
He also doesn’t like it when you link to this (Ugh. APK again!), this (How to Respond When People Threaten to Sue You on the Web), and especially to this.
(APK, are you mad yet?)
Speaking of Firefox security. Firefox has a ways to go in regards to the issue of unwanted pop-unders.
When visiting a website, even at the highest security settings, can [u]open another window unsolicited[/u], that's a security flaw.
Ron
If the software you're developing only works in IE, someone somewhere made a bad decision.
Ah if only it was that simple.. The company I originally developed software like this years ago when it was basically just IE or Netscape. They made it support both, thinking that those two would be used and supported forever. Well netscape died, and all that work going into supporting it was all for naught 5-10 years later. Because there are going to be bugs you see in one browser and not the other, and fully supporting additional browsers will require a lot of additional overhead.
Two years ago we started developed a similar version of the main site, and there was some debate over whether the site should just suppport IE, or IE and firefox. We started with both, then quickly dropped it because of the large number of firefox-only bugs. I look back at this and I think that was a good decision, because for all we know in 5 years firefox will be dead, and chrome will be the big #2 (or #1).
This might be a poor business model if you're looking to attract single customers from a site, but this stuff we develop is generally bought by larger corporations that have all their employees use it. We can dictate the terms & requirements a little easier and not risk losing customers by not supporting a browser. And unfortunately, we'll have to deal with any IE issues they have that get blamed on us because of some IE exploit...
Global warming and other natural disasters are a direct effect of the shrinking number of pirates - Gospel of the FSM
You fail to mention that Netscape (4.x) was in no way or shape capable of beating IE. It was a pile of crap. IE went into dominant position because it was a so much better browser starting at IE4.
Yep, I know (for example, the CSS/JSSS fiasco). But I think the argument here is that even if the rewrite was necessary, Netscape could have released a 5.0 version based on the old codebase in the meantime to compete against IE5.
Technology, Internet included, is just another tool, and it needs to work correctly. To tell someone like this to get another browser is not feasible
I think if a carpenter told me that the brand of hammer that I, a non-carpenter, was using at home had a tendency for the head to fly off the handle, I'd be pretty damned interested, and I'd be looking to buy a different brand of hammer.
And in a corporate environment, the admin may know that IE is a crappy browser, but the technically clueless middle manager knows that "nobody ever got fired for buying Microsoft". That's why a lot of corporate desktops have IE.
And yes, IE is far from the only problem, holes show up in any application.
Free Martian Whores!
Netscape 4 was not DOM based. There was just no way to make it competitive against the beast that IE was at the time.
Let's make a car analogy, it's been a while. If you have a 1995 Toyota tercel and are about to start a race against a Corvette, new tires or a new carburator ain't going to change much. What you need is a new car.
Ahhhh... Car analogies makes me feel good.
Write boring code, not shiny code!
We live in a highly specialised society. You can be highly intelligent and still not know squat about something you use in your everyday like.
My brother in law, for example, probably thinks that IE is the internet, however he is a consulting arborist and compared to him most people have a similar level of ignorance about trees, even if they have them in their yard.
He needs his computers looked after by someone else, many people will destroy tens thousands of dollars of the value of their property by improper care of trees. It doesn't make either stupid, you can't specialise in everything.
Fine, let's not allow pop-unders, but can we leave in the ability to move windows to the front?
-- thinkyhead software and media
So, any idea what's wrong with this guy? Mild schizophrenia perhaps?
If they're using it for that whole 5 years, guess what, it's not for "naught". technology for the most part is a sliding window not a bedrock investment of time and money that lasts down through the ages. Sorry but that's just reality.
Start charging.
Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
prosthelytizing nerd squads going door-to-door
Those would be people who aggressively evangelise the replacement of body parts, right?
"Mom! The Jaime Sommers Witnesses are here again! Do we wanna buy an H+ Magazine?"
You are not a brain: http://books.google.com/books?id=2oV61CeDx-YC
We live in a highly specialised society. You can be highly intelligent and still not know squat about something you use in your everyday like.
While that is no doubt true, I'm wondering what happens to an advanced global technological society based on such high specialisation and the resulting relative general ignorance when it is combined with a rising level of cynical anti-social manipulation that leaves anyone not a domain expert in any given domain, wide open to fraud and abuse from 99% of the rest of a 7 billion person planet.
Guess we're going to find out real soon! Won't that be fun!
You are not a brain: http://books.google.com/books?id=2oV61CeDx-YC
No, you haven't.
That's nothing. I know smart people who believe that AOL is the Internet.
The higher the technology, the sharper that two-edged sword.
"You have wasted your life." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 23, @03:20PM (#34654440)
Really? Well, let's see about that, shall we??
Ok - I have these items paid for in full:
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1.) A house
2.) Rental Property
3.) Nice sports car
4.) Kick Ass computer
5.) Kick Ass education (2 degrees around the computer sciences)
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(SO - that all "said & aside": I wonder if "the likes of you" (a troll) can say the same?)
APK
P.S.=> Also, the day you can show us all you've accomplished the same as I have in respected publications in the art & science of computing, and earlier than I have & as many times? That's the day you can even BEGIN to talk to me that way, see this only PARTIAL list below that's to MY credit:
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Windows NT Magazine (now Windows IT Pro) April 1997 "BACK OFFICE PERFORMANCE" issue, page 61
(&, for work done for EEC Systems/SuperSpeed.com on PAID CONTRACT (writing portions of their SuperCache program increasing its performance by up to 40% via my work) albeit, for their SuperDisk & HOW TO APPLY IT, took them to a finalist position @ MS Tech Ed, two years in a row 2000-2002, in its HARDEST CATEGORY: SQLServer Performance Enhancement).
WINDOWS MAGAZINE, 1997, "Top Freeware & Shareware of the Year" issue page 210, #1/first entry in fact (my work is there)
PC-WELT FEB 1998 - page 84, again, my work is featured there
WINDOWS MAGAZINE, WINTER 1998 - page 92, insert section, MUST HAVE WARES, my work is again, there
PC-WELT FEB 1999 - page 83, again, my work is featured there
CHIP Magazine 7/99 - page 100, my work is there
GERMAN PC BOOK, Data Becker publisher "PC Aufrusten und Repairen" 2000, where my work is contained in it
HOT SHAREWARE Numero 46 issue, pg. 54 (PC ware mag from Spain), 2001 my work is there, first one featured, yet again!
Also, a British PC Mag in 2002 for many utilities I wrote, saw it @ BORDERS BOOKS but didn't buy it... by that point, I had moved onto other areas in this field besides coding only...
Being paid for an article that made me money over @ PCPitstop in 2008 for writing up a guide that has people showing NO VIRUSES/SPYWARES & other screwups, via following its point, such as THRONKA sees here -> http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=ee926d913b81bf6d63c3c7372fd2a24c&t=28430&page=3
Lastly, lately (this year)?
It's also been myself helping out the folks at the UltraDefrag64 project (a 64-bit defragger for Windows), in showing them how to do Process Priority Control @ the GUI usermode/ring 3/rpl 3 level in their program (good one too), & being credited for it by their lead dev & his team... see here -> http://ultradefrag.sourceforge.net/handbook/Credits.html
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Show us you've done more, & earlier... ok? Good luck, I know you can't... you say I "wasted my life"?? LOL, you are a WASTE OF LIFE, especially by way of comparison, troll! apk
This year? No. Next year? Sure.
Make their account a limited user account only.
Change the admin password, and don't tell him/her what it is.
Enable the Remote Assistance feature just in case it's absolutely necessary.
Set anti-virus to be updated automatically, and make the schedule locked to anybody but admin. In fact, turn off all AV controls to non-admins except for "run a scan now." MSE can do this, by the way.
Do the same for Windows Update (force it on, don't let a non-admin turn it off).
Works best on Vista or Win7, though it's possible to use XP or 2000 as a limited user too (just more annoying). Giving a non-techie Admin on an Internet-connected box makes about as much sense as giving a Linux newbie a root login; it's easier to do everything, most notably shooting yourself in the foot.
Expect to get some calls related to "I need to install X" and be ready to handle them. Note that one advantage of this approach is that you can handle them by educating your relative about things that really should *NOT* get installed.
There's no place I could be, since I've found Serenity...
Just looking @ your post, with no proofs whatsoever? Please... give us a break.
When you can show us you've all done something with yourself instead of trolling others boy, & better than I put up here ->
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1922942&cid=34656232
?
Then, you can talk.
APK
P.S.=> The source of my app being called a malware? Hehehe, Computer Associates: Who were BUSTED for accounting fraud scandals... thanks for letting me put THAT out here (because last time I did here? It was "modded up" +5 in fact):
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1884922&cid=34350102
I took them to task & took their 21 point test for removal, & CA had to lower the "threat level" on my app (1 of around 50 I've done over time online that did well) to ZERO THREAT LEVEL.
(The same has happened to Nir Sofer of Nirsoft & also Dr. Mark Russinovich of Microsoft too, so, I am truly in "good company" (unlike you)).
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Arstechnica? Home of Jeremy Reimer, the self-published LULU "fake-it-till-you-make-it" who lives off of his stripper wife? Please:
Jeremy Reimer and Arstechnica were caught impersonating me on their forums, had the police called on them and had portions of Reimer's own personal website removed (and Jay Little's ENTIRELY by CrystalTech.com, his then hosting provider), and had his behind handed to him by myself, alongside his fat friend Jay Little (who screwed up publicly on Exchange Server being helped by memory optimization programs - to which he stalked me to other forums and got himself banned, lol, hilarious...).
That's easily seen at Windows IT Pro magazine forums under Dr. Mark Russinovich's articles...
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Thor SCHMUCK though? LOL... the page you posted to explains it all, & he HAD TO GO SILENT (because he's the one who sent my app to CA, because I trashed him on forums before)... I took care of them BOTH, easily, see above.
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Anything else you want to post to help me look good here again?
Thanks for that much! apk
See subject line: I am *FAIRLY SURE* I know who it is that put that up, but my replies to he?
Hey - It put him in his place, easily here -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1922942&cid=34656232 and here -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1922942&cid=34656232
(So, as the saying goes? "Nuff said"... & just too, Too, TOO EASY (just 2 EZ))
APK
P.S.=> Everything he wrote I have links to the ACTUAL TRUTH on, so it's no biggie... LOL, he just makes me laugh & makes me look good at the same time, everytime... can't beat that! apk
See subject line, and when you get your:
1.) PHD in Psychiatry
2.) A a license to practice it
3.) When you have given myself a formal examination in professional settings?
Then, & only then, can you make your "snap prognosis" there, Dr. Quack!
APK
P.S.=> Unbelievable: Trolls always fall into the SAME "ad hominem" attack tactics (which is, of course, invalid in logical argument), & all I have to do?
Well, see my "std. reply" to the wannabe sidewalk surgeons & psychiatrists here, as shown above... too easy! apk
LMAO, see my subject-line above, in regards to your down moderation of my init. post here, & this link to the trolls' own "downmod squad":
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THE "DOWNMOD SQUAD":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kd85Qim_Z6A
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(ROTFLMAO!) I can see it now!
The white guy & black guy are sick & tired of being chased by trolls, & malware makers & being tracked online (& it shows)... then, they notice the girl is the same...
They tell her about posts like my guides above, & guess who shows up? You guessed it:
CAPT. TROLL (lol, when Tige Andrews "pops outta the woodwork" there...)
APK
P.S.=> I mean, hey, after all:
IF all you trolls have is your technically unjustified off topic down mods & ad hominem attacks? Hey - that only means I did a decent job of things is all.... apk
"Trying to maintain a 16MB hosts file would send anyone completely fucking mental though, so I'm not at all surprised." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 23, @08:01PM (#34656628)
This is the "how & why" of WHY I can say you're nothing but a trolling "ne're-do-well":
I've done what makes it EASY TO DO, because I have such abilities & you? Do not:
I wrote a program that does it for me, from up to 8 reputable sources for HOSTS file blocking data, & it does so, in 20 minutes time now (got a HUGE break in time down from nearly 2 hrs. time via a better algorithm, & how I process the data itself).
See, that's what going to school & NOT WASTING YOUR TIME TROLLING OTHERS as you are trying to do here to me, can do for you - I actually can do things that trolls like you, cannot!
(I also have things to show for it like homes, cars, nice other things too... you obviously do not, & whose fault is that?)
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"1) You own some stuff." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 23, @08:01PM (#34656628)
And, you do not - why? Because you're a "ne'er-do-well" & that "stuff"?? Is typically the LARGEST THINGS most folks who are decent, can afford to buy over the course of their lifetimes (not trolls that dwell in their parents' basement as I KNOW YOU DO Ash).
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"2) You used to write Windows shareware" - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 23, @08:01PM (#34656628)
Yes - I used to, & I even went to commercial ware production instead & DID WELL AT IT (see my list)!
(However, I also DO help others in the 64-bit freeware/open source realm now (see UltraDefrag in my list I posted))
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"1) Congrats. I own, amongst other things:" - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 23, @08:01PM (#34656628)
Thank you, & as I suspected & now KNOW to be true? You do not, because of what you are: A "ne'er-do-well" & a troll, lmao!
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"2) Not writing any software would have been a better contribution to society. Most reports I've seen of your attempts at software ranged from "Didn't install" to "Broke right-clicking". This is not a record to be proud of." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 23, @08:01PM (#34656628)
Oh, these still seem to be doing well:
http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/390/.html
&
http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/389/APK_Registry_Cleaning_Engine_2002++_SR-7_.html
HOWEVER, Since you're such a "great critic"? Can you show us YOU have done the same & created any decent wares others like, as I have NUMEROUS times since 1995-2006?
LMAO - of COURSE YOU CAN'T: You're a trolling "ne'er-do-well"...
APK
P.S.=>
"I've seen you on forums." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 23, @08:01PM (#34656628)
Translated from "troll speak", means "I've been 'online stalking' you", between THAT & the last thing I quoted from you above...
(You probably did the SAME trolling you tried here, and were shot down on by myself, "point-by-point" as is my style).
However, ok: Then what forums and how do I know you then? apk
See subject line... lmao!
Secondly:
"No, you didn't. By "going silent", he let you humiliate yourself by showing that every single legal threat you ever make is an incompetent bluff, and that you have never even been in the same room as an attorney. - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 23, @07:58PM (#34656600)
I suggest you read this +5 INFORMATIVE rated post I did on Computer Associates & Thor SCHMUCK too (see Lowe there, & see what's what, lol):
http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1884922&cid=34350102
APK
P.S.=> LMAO on "Thor Schmuck" - hey, do ask him about Ty Tymkovich, lol, who suckered him (for whom I wonder, lol - that took care of ole' Thor VERY well, lmao) & about his sister sleeping with every Tom, Dick & Harry & being knocked up (& left out to dry)..
"Nobody, including yourself, believes that you beat anyone, in anything, everby Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 23, @07:58PM (#34656600)
Ask Thor SHMUCK about what I just wrote then, lmao... we'll see! apk
His name is Alexander Peter Kowalski, and he's a nigger.
"His name is Alexander Peter Kowalski, and he's a nigger." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 23, @08:45PM (#34656944)
LMAO - something I wrote must have REALLY "gotten to" our AC troll here in my last response he replied to... look @ that response!
(Something I put up hit a little TOO CLOSE to the truth there? Must be, lol!)
APK
P.S.=> If all you have "Mr. Troll" is your easily disproven b.s. in some attempt at "ad hominem attacking me"? Keep it up - you only make ME look good, each time, as I put up contrary actual proof vs. your b.s. ... but this racist stuff? Sorry man, I am not a "nigger" or even black (since that's typically applied to black folks unfortunately), etc./et al... caucasian here! apk
Disregard that last post, I doublechecked and it turns out that although I am not of African decent, I am in fact a nigger. Furthermore, I suck cocks and think that every AC who flames me is the same person.
APK
P.S. => Since I've realized that I'm a nigger, and thus cannot be trusted, I've gone ahead and deleted my HOSTS file. Everyone else should do the same.
"APK: "Unbelievable: Trolls always fall into the SAME "ad hominem" attack tactics (which is, of course, invalid in logical argument)" APK: "Arstechnica? Home of Jeremy Reimer, the self-published LULU "fake-it-till-you-make-it" who lives off of his stripper wife? That, Sir, is hilarious" - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 23, @08:26PM (#34656808)
It is UTTERLY hilarious, I agree!
Especially since it's true on all accounts you quoted... & we already KNOW you're a nothing/nobody whose done NOTHING with his life!
(And, you said I am a waste of life? Please... show us you have amounted to ANYTHING then, because you surely did not here -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1922942&cid=34656232 ).
After all the names you've called me here, completely off topic AND DISPROVEN on every single "so-called point" you've tried to use to "discredit me"?
Please - you can't show a single thing you've accomplished, and you're trying to "cut me down"? I only posted facts.
APK
P.S.=> You're trolling, others here know it, and unfortunately, they also know you're nothing but a useless "ne'er-do-well" troll too - after all, you couldn't even BEGIN to put up a list of decent achievements in computing, or otherwise, to even show you have anything worthwhile to your name... whose fault is that? apk
"Disregard that last post, I doublechecked and it turns out that although I am not of African decent, I am in fact a nigger. Furthermore, I suck cocks and think that every AC who flames me is the same person.
APK
P.S. => Since I've realized that I'm a nigger, and thus cannot be trusted, I've gone ahead and deleted my HOSTS file. Everyone else should do the same." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 23, @09:05PM (#34657080)
See my subject-line & that's how I KNOW I have "gotten to" this troll attempting to "troll me" - he has to use one of the "last resorts" of trolls: Impersonating me (not a first from this particular troll either).
Please... grow up, get an education & a good job, instead of wasting your life trying to troll me (and failing).
APK
See my subject line & do not fall for this imposture! - this troll is trying to soil my good name.
Delete your HOSTS files at ONCE! You will be insecure if you don't!.
APK
P.S. => I have nothing better to do with my life so please respond to all of my comments as AC. I simply don't know what I'd do with all my time if I didn't have ACs on ./ to respond to.
"Yes, I can do that. 8 wget invocations to get the data, cat the 8 resulting files into sed 's/[[:space:]]/\t/', pipe into sort, pipe into uniq. Job Done. Why does your program take 20 minutes to do this very, very simple process?" - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 23, @09:01PM (#34657040)
Ahem: DID YOU WRITE THOSE PROGRAMS YOURSELF?
Answer = NO.
(You're just a "script kiddie" type is why, and certainly an off topic troll!)
My program does a LOT more than just what you listed by the way, also... and, I wrote it myself, unlike you, script kiddie (LMAO)
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"2500 downloads of your screensaver in 4 years is crap." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 23, @09:01PM (#34657040)
Oh, really? Have you done one better?? No.
HAVE YOU DONE ANYTHING?? NO, we know that already from the questions I asked of you, lol, & your replies (off topic though they are).
(I also checked, & the counter? Broken! Nothing I can do about that, & not that I care to be blunt about it!)
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"A mention in a credits list is all you can dredge up? That's not contribution. They put you on the list so you would stop hassling them. Did you suggest they add 'sleep's to their code? I know that's a favourite of yours." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 23, @09:01PM (#34657040)
Again - what have YOU ever created that did well? I put up an entire LIST (partial only too, mind you) of things I've done... stuff that ended up in commercially sold products no less!
Can you show the same?? NO, as per usual... lmao!
APK
P.S.=>
"You don't know me, but I'm on a number of forums that you're on. You're very hard to miss." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 23, @09:01PM (#34657040)
You're a stalker & we all know it now... for sure. Get your head examined, get an education, get a job, & do something with your life... I have:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1922942&cid=34656232
Don't try to "match wits" with me troll - I've already gotten you so "worked up" here you've called me a "nigger" & tried to impersonate me as well? Give us a break - grow up! apk
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1922942&cid=34657080
That was your first attempt @ impersonating me here, & it failed... but, I see you modified your topic title to try to "duplicate" my posting style too... oh well: It's not my fault you're a waste of life -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1922942&cid=34656232 and you haven't accomplished anything w/ your life!
(I suppose THAT is the "price of trolling", eh? You're "living proof", lol!)
APK
I own a very nice flat in the West End of a very expensive city... I also have a BSc, CCNA and SCSA qualifications. I have been to school.
I have been reading you trolling here and I would like to see proof of that from you on all accounts noted. The part that makes you not to be believed is that You claim all that education and yet you haven't even done a small fraction of what APK put up. Why is that?
See my subject-line above.
I don't think you understand that I absolutely LOVE shooting down trolls and watching them react (especially on if they have created anything that others noted as good, especially in written publications in the art & sciences of computing, as I have, numerous times).
It's THAT simple! Other folks may "lay down" to trolls, but that's NOT how I was raised... to quote "Jerry" from "ENEMY MINE":
"INTELLIGENT LIFE MAKES A STAND"
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"By responding to every AC that dares flame you, you're only encouraging them and making yourself look bad. - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 23, @09:42PM (#34657260)
LOL, as far as I am concerned? Please: You're just the same troll, posting as AC to me now.
APK
P.S.=> I look bad? Yea, well... better than the trolls look here -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1922942&cid=34656232 that's certain!
The day a troll can show me he's done MORE than I have in this field? I'll stop... but, that's NEVER HAPPENED in nearly 18 yrs. online now for me, so, doubt that'll ever happen!
(So - until then, I just enjoy watching them call me names, impersonating me, & other things they tried here to NO AVAIL (since they're easily disproven & always "shot down" by myself, & with visible facts))... apk
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1916240&cid=34612834
and
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1916240&cid=34647708
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1916240&cid=34612834
&
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1916240&cid=34647708
Disregard that ... I'm still a nigger.
APK
See subject above, & don't let an ignoramus troll like hairyfeet bother you. He had to "eat his own words" 2 times already this week when he trolled others here:
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1916240&cid=34612834
and
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1916240&cid=34647708
First time: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1922942&cid=34657080 (where you f'd up on how I sign off my "titles/subjects")
Second time: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1922942&cid=34657150 (where you attempted to "remedy" what I told you you messed up on above)
And this one... (Biggest F' up of all - I never, ever, post THAT short (usually)).
Boy: You're sure "effective" (not). More like "3 strikes YOU'RE OUT!", lmao...
This must have REALLY "gotten to you", eh? See here -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1922942&cid=34656232 bigtime...
APK
P.S.=> What is it with this "nigger" stuff you keep calling me? Did some LARGE black man "treat you badly" (lol!)? apk
You can't even write programs, and his single program does all of what yours does and more. He asked you if you wrote any of those programs you noted that you use to try to duplicate just some of the functions his single program has? We know you didn't. You conveniently ignored it, and then you let loose your flipped out raging response I replied to. As to APK has not done anything of note, he put this up here http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1922942&cid=34653958 and it's more than you have done, despite all your alleged education (which I doubt is true or you would be able to put up what APK did in the link above). You aren't a good troll and it seems you are not good at life either if all you have is trolling and being shown up as a failure trolling and in life as well it seems. Thank you for your answer though. It confirms your trolling and script kiddie status for the rest of us reading.
"Thank you for your answer though. It confirms your trolling and script kiddie status for the rest of us reading." - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 23, @10:32PM (#34657476)
Nope, lol, you need to change "trolling & script kiddie status" to:
Stalking trolling script kiddie armchair quarterback status
Instead... PLEASE!
APK
P.S.=> Thanks for the replies - LMAO! apk
No, you haven't.
Half the university staffers and a few professors I supported think all urls go in the search bar, no matter how small and inconspicuous it may appear right next to the main URL bar.
Must have something to do with browser GUIs giving you two textfields without distinct background color. Only geeks notice that "the one on the left is the one filled with text all the time... perhaps reading that text will contain something useful... ooh, it says facebook and i happen to be on my facebook." Nongeeks never read the "this one is a google search bar" text blurred until onfocus() is triggered. Instead they go "ooh, that box on the left is all taken up with letters, let me ignore it and use the empty one here on the right. Ooh, i'll ignore that i always end up on google and have like 3 different places that might all be facebook"
Cooler story bro: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1922942&cid=34653958
Even cooler here: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1922942&cid=34657188
Check this one too, especially this one: http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1922942&cid=34656232
(Nuff said, & "too, Too, TOO EASY... just 2 EZ!")
APK
P.S.=> ROTFLMAO: To the trolls of /.:
I have a request - IF you're going to "troll me", @ least come with your guns loaded instead of having to resort to your "memes", trying to be cool, or subtle (& as usual for you here vs. myself, failing, hugely).
I mean, to be blunt about it? What's next?? English grammar critique???
You've done everything else in typical "troll autistic pattern" of:
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1.) repeated adhominem attacks
2.) Trying to impersonate me 3-4x or more times now
3.) Trying to discredit me (where you were severely shot down no less see above)
& more, repeatedly.
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All that effort, just to be reduced to "memes", trying to be "clever" as brits say... & failing???? LOL, please.
Dudes with limp wrists (lol) use terms like that: It sounds like, lol, some "StRaNgE AcT" they perform even imo or SOMETHING, lmao - & the way you're STALKING ME? Yes, I am a bit worried, so get with the program & realize this: I am straight, ok? Go "find another dish" because I am like, NOT ON THE MENU, ok?? LOL!
Grow up, do something with your lives. I did:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1922942&cid=34656232
Instead of trolling others, which you clearly are just NOT that good at either, lol, sorry... apk
"You're right, some wget and a pipeline probably wouldn't cover your crazy scheme" - by Anonymous Coward on Thursday December 23, @11:20PM (#34657666)
That's more "moving parts" in pipes and more, and it won't:
1.) ping sites you wish to hardcode & sort them into the hosts file (for more speed, & avoiding DNS lookups or dns block lists, etc. & FASTER than DNS calls as well).
Will your use of others' tools (stress the tools of others, nothing YOU built, rookie/noob)?
Nope.
Sorry, you lose on BAD DESIGN WITH EXCESS MOVING PARTS.
Why?
You'll need more than someone else's program (not yours, lol) you have to "use", "user" (sarcasm/lmao), like yet another script kiddie!
LMAO...
You'll also need ping to do another part of my program does for me as well...
Yet MORE "moving parts" & shitty commandline stuff - GUI is where it is at, in case you haven't joined us this & last century, lol!
(And, you didn't write that yourself & ping neither... yet again, whose fault is that, that you're an "armchair quarterback script kiddie online stalking troll" of mine?)
Want more things my program does, which you'll need yet more programs for & THUS, YOU NEED MORE CRAPPY COMMANDLINE TOOLS IN MULTIPLE FOR, MEANING MORE MOVING PARTS BAD DESIGN???
APK
P.S.=> See subject line - good luck, you'll lose worse than you have here: Incidentally? My hosts file is now 24.5 mb in size, using 0.0.0.0 (the most "optimal" blocking address for size, speed, efficiency & compatibility) - blocking out 915,000 known bad sites/servers from 8 reputable sources... another layer of protection that works for not only security, but also more speed & anonymity... apk
wow
spoken like a true nigger. you are NOTHING.
"wow spoken like a true nigger. you are NOTHING." - by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 24, @01:11AM (#34658054)
Until you've shown us all you've done more in the field this topic's on (computing, not off topic trolling like you are doing in bad taste I might add on your part as well) than I have here -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1922942&cid=34656232 as well as earlier than myself, and more times in respected publications in this field over a decade etc., in my partial list only??
Well - actions speak louder than your trolling words!
APK
P.S.=> See subject-line troll. Speak for yourself - but then, all you DO, is speak... you never show us you can actually "do" in the computer sciences, now do you? Nope - you're an off-topic troll, easily dispatched, as per usual... apk
Did you write wget?
Did you write ping??
Did you write cat???
Did you write awk????
Hell - Did you write ANY OF THE 12 dozen OTHER COMMANDS YOU USED that YOU DIDN'T WRITE, "user" (script kiddie is more like it)?
(Answer = NO!)
BUT, I did... myself - & into 1 easy to use program for a specific set of purposes in easy to use GUI form (hosts file dataprocessing).
Is that a GUI what you've done (you know - what people use in the 21st century)??
LMAO - lastly to the "script kiddie" here?
Hey - If I want my program to run quicker, I just cut the data up into more equal parts, & I can get it down to 1 minute if I wish... easily.
I love it when these "armchair quarterback script kiddies" think they know about "programming efficiency" when they don't even program themselves... it's pitiful.
APK
P.S.=> There is a hell of a lot more my program can do, & it's all written by myself (another feature is changing the blocking IP address from 127.0.0.1, to 0.0.0.0 (or even 0))...
Add that to your usage of others' work, lol, script kiddie (and let's see you use even MORE "moving parts" from the commandline to do it, things you never created yourself either))... apk
http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/390/.html
&
http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/389/APK_Registry_Cleaning_Engine_2002++_SR-7_.html
"You fail it. It is computers." - by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 24, @02:01AM (#34658206)
See subject-line, & write either one of those programs of mine in the links above, in scripts as you do (you have to, you can't code in a more powerful language evidently) with DOZENS OF UNIX TOOLS you never even created yourself no less in ping, awk, mv, cat, wget, & more ...
We'll be waiting, script kiddie!
APK
P.S.=> His reply here ought to be CLASSIC... some sort of "spin" b.s. trolls always pull I am guessing... call it a "prediction"! apk
I can do in 1 line, what it took you HOW MANY (lol) to do?
(How much faster as well?? How about less than 1 second here!)
It's called SQL (use VARCHAR fields so no trailing blanks crap gets left over - note: Access doesn't have VARCHAR datatype afaik - mySQL does, & it's free (& FAST + easy to work with)):
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SELECT * DISTINCT (fieldname) FROM (hosts table name) ORDER BY (asc or desc etc.)
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How many lines of using others' programs (lol, what 10 of them) did you use to do that much?
LMAO - Doesn't matter: I can do it all in 1 step vs. your... what was that # of lines of "code" (script kiddie b.s. using others' tools) difference here again?
ROTFLMAO!
Best part is, that runs in a split second on mySQL on a FAST machine (like mine)... indexing, rocks!
APK
P.S.=> See? I can "play smart" & use the tools of others to do the whole thing you took many lines & many others' tools (bad design in too many moving parts & being tty term stuff only) almost ALL in 1 line, & probably a LOT faster than what you're doing using the tools of others due to indexing!
(Plus, you "showed your true colors" & leveraged UNIX strengths in text programming tools (ones you didn;t write though) albeit, in mere scripts, not actual programming knowledge really, because for you to write all the tools you used out in code alone, would be PAGES here between 10 different others' tools your "SCRIPTS" utilize)).
How many others tools you had you used, script kiddie like no less, in mv, awk, wget, ping, cat, & sed, uniq, sort, etc. & who knows what else?
Man - & you're STILL not doing all my program does in GUI easy 1 click action (I chop the data into 48 parts or more, it will go faster (but I have commandline analogs written of MOST OF WHAT MY PROGRAM DOES, that operate 10x as fast (because they're tty term apps & specialized))... apk
Merry Xmas
NMAP Christmas Tree Scan... lite up your lights.... do not forget +b proxy. Hack the Gibson muhahahahaha
All cows eat grass!
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1922942&cid=34658268
Yes, the "impossible dream", for shell scripting kiddies - it can't be done, unlike string processing on files, as UNIX type tty term utilities (the province of dinosaurs & admins, I know, I am BOTH but GUI automation in 1 codebase is best, & customized to a task)... lmao!
I'd love to see you do my:
APK Matrix Screensaver
or
APK Registry Cleaning Engine
In shell scripts...
(LMAO, man - IF you can somehow "pull that off"? My hat's off to you... thing is though, I KNOW YOU CAN'T!)
APK
P.S.=> Oh, good news too - one a troll like you will hate:
I just added another 1,284 new known bad sites/servers/hosts-domain names to my custom HOSTS file, protecting me vs. 916,222 of them, currently (absolutely "up-to-date" as of 1 minute ago)... apk
"You must be a fucking terrible programmer then" - by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 24, @07:30AM (#34659164)
Well - I divided my data into 48 parts this a.m. &, in GUI? I outrace you (just tried it in fact, thanks for the motivation)!
However: That's IN GUI mind you, only (which has more overheads than your tty term "script kiddie" script, of which you didn't write a dozen commands in it yourself either - my work IS literally, ALL MINE (not someone else's like you do, script kiddie)).
I moved it to my character mode analogs of the GUI model I have here, it was literally 10x faster than that above, as I said it would be. I put the data thru MY tty term version of my GUI app, into 48 parts, & I outrace yours handily... by MANY ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE in fact!
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"So why aren't you doing that? Why are you writing hundreds of lines of mind-bendingly slow Delphi when all of your problems have already been solved with a single SQL statement? What's wrong with you?" - by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 24, @07:30AM (#34659164)
First: NOT EVERYONE KNOWS SQL, or has a *NIX variant with all of its string processing tools (*NIX's are KNOWN for that, & iirc, AT&T/Bell Labs 1st UNIX was used for that, string work, mostly).
That's HOW/WHY you could even DO a "shell script" (like a script kiddie does) by using all those *NIX tools that YOU DIDN'T WRITE YOURSELF, and on only 1 type of program I wrote, not the others (which that one you tried to duplicate and we don't know it works (it won't, your wget will need work for one thing, & your sed for block address conversion will give you surprises too) processes text in a file only, albeit in GUI, whereas yours is in charmode/tty term stuff and YOU didn't write a good 90% of it - we don't even KNOW IF YOURS WORKS...
It won't - your wget is pseudocode for 1 thing. Your attempts @ changing the blocking address w/ sed will fail too, you'll see (diff. hosts files makers use diff. formats for it).
(Mind you - Windows doesn't have those commands natively, either).
Of course/AGAIN: I'd like to see you do my other programs I showed you in SHELL SCRIPTS, lol! Impossible...
Also - I designed my HOSTS file processor for others who don't have a decent db program (mySQL is free though) OR *NIX or who know how to use it...
See - I was going to distribute it as a freeware is why (I decided against it - there's others like mine, almost, in HOSTSMAN (it's hosted at mvps.org)).
Secondly: I decided to do a "1 stop shopping" 1 button press easy model of what you had to use 10 or more other programs for... UNIX programs, mind you - NOT Windows ones!
Get it?
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"If your GUI is 1-click, then what's the point of the GUI? Is it just a 'Go' button? I can script you that too, if you like:" - by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 24, @07:30AM (#34659164)
You show me you can write the sourcecode for:
ping
awk
sed
sort
mv
wget
cat
Then you can call that "your own work" & you can say it's yours... otherwise?
You're a "Script Kiddie", point-blank!
Besides: Your work? WON'T WORK! Again, your wget needs work, and your sed work on blocking IP addresses conversions will fail too... does yours trim off trailing blanks that get left from the largest entry also (no, it does not, & that's a problem doing it via DB's can possibly present if no VARCHAR type is present (this happens in Access for example)).
APK
P.S.=> Again though - I'd like to see you "Shell Script" these programs for us:
http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/390/.html
&
http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/389/APK_Registry_Cleaning_Engine_2002++_SR-7_.html
Especially since you called me a "bad programmer"... ok, your turn now, do those 2 programs of min
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1916240&cid=34612834
and
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1916240&cid=34647708
"You must be a fucking terrible programmer then" - by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 24, @07:30AM (#34659164)
Well, ok - like I challenged you to before 3x now? You write THESE PROGRAMS OF MINE in shell scripts then, they're not just string processing in a file this time big mouth!
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APK Matrix ScreenSaver:
http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/390/.html
&
APK Registry Cleaning Engine 2002++ SR-7:
http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/389/APK_Registry_Cleaning_Engine_2002++_SR-7_.html
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(AND, that I wrote the entire code to in them both, unlike yourself, in your using 10 other *NIX tools for string processing in a file only, which doesn't even WORK, because your wget is PURE PSEUDOCODE and your sed work will fail on diff. blocking address formats also to name a few things I spotted as shabby in your work & pure B.S. also)
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"You're just not very good at this computing thing, are you? I bet that five star rating your shareware abomination got was from a single review. Your review." - by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 24, @07:30AM (#34659164)
See the above, big mouth, & live up to it... good luck - there is NO WAY IN HELL you can do that screensaver or registry cleaner program in shell scripts, lol!
APK
P.S.=> Bottom-line: You're SHOCKINGLY LIMITED in skills, and you post b.s. pseudocode that won't work either... and, you called ME a "shitty programmer"? Please...
Additionally/again - The day you can do the list of achievements in the art & science of computing that I did while you were still in diapers I wager ion.simian.c?? Is the day I take that back - only thing is, I know you haven't...
(Lastly/in closing here - I'd like to see you TRY to live up to the above challenge by doing 2 of my wares in "shell scripts", you script-kiddie, GOOD LUCK, you'll NEED IT (more than luck, lol) - lmao!)... apk
Not... lol!
APK
P.S.=> The day he can write these 2 programs of mine into a shell script (and let's see him write sed, awk, ping, mv, sort, & wget himself too, lmao)?
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APK Matrix ScreenSaver:
http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/390/.html
&
APK Registry Cleaning Engine 2002++ SR-7:
http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/389/APK_Registry_Cleaning_Engine_2002++_SR-7_.html
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Is the day I take this all back!
Heh - thing is though, I know he can't implement a screensaver or my registry cleaner in shell scripts, & his running away shows us all that - the script kiddie figured out that he can SOMEWHAT "duplicate" 1 of my programs, in a shabby tty term program only, not what users want in GUI easy!
(His works' also NOT proven either, & only theoretically only on his end, his wget will need work as its only "pseudocode" so far, & his sed will fail on the diff. blocking formats other hosts files makers use when he tries to import his hosts data too - he'll have to take commandline parameters also, means typing & data entry errors possibly by users, as the hosts file is moveable, and he will have to import from many sources to do what I do in my program, & more - no, your "pseudocode shell script" isn't even a WORKING TOOL, or refined either)... apk
"Well - I divided my data into 48 parts this a.m. &, in GUI? I outrace you (just tried it in fact, thanks for the motivation)!"
Lies.
"I moved it to my character mode analogs of the GUI model I have here, it was literally 10x faster than that above, as I said it would be. I put the data thru MY tty term version of my GUI app, into 48 parts, & I outrace yours handily... by MANY ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE in fact!"
Also lies. Unless your GUI code is somehow managing to hose your processor (I wouldn't put it past you), displaying a GUI should make bugger-all difference to throughput.
"First: NOT EVERYONE KNOWS SQL, or has a *NIX variant with all of its string processing tools" /you/ must know SQL. Since nobody else is using your software, you're all that matters. Unless of course you don't know any SQL and are just pulling random stuff out your ass to try to impress people.
But you claimed that a single SELECT DISTINCT solved all your problems, so
"by using all those *NIX tools that YOU DIDN'T WRITE YOURSELF"
That's the point. These are solved problems that you are failing to solve again. If ever there was a problem that suited a shell script, this is it.
"your wget is pseudocode for 1 thing"
Obviously. Just fill in the URLs. This is not a point of contention.
"I'd like to see you do my other programs I showed you in SHELL SCRIPTS"
You're right. A shitty yet-another-matrix-screensaver is not the sort of thing shell scripts are suited to. The Windows registry is an abomination, but again, not the right place for a shell script. Maybe a PowerShell script.
"You show me you can write the sourcecode for..."
I haven't claimed to be able to write C. I have claimed to have solved your hosts file generation problem more efficiently than you. This I have done.
"can call that "your own work" & you can say it's yours... otherwise?"
Unless you're hand coding in ASM, neither can you. How many string functions built into Delphi do you use?
"your sed work on blocking IP addresses conversions will fail too"
No. It won't.
"does yours trim off trailing blanks that get left from the largest entry also"
No. Because there aren't any. Trailing blanks don't affect the functionality of a hosts file anyway, so your point is moot.
Have you just learned the term VARCHAR? You seem very fond of it.
"Especially since you called me a "bad programmer"... ok, your turn now, do those 2 programs of mine in shell scripts!"
I do not claim to be a particularly good programmer. I do, however, claim that your are not a very good programmer. The fact that your app takes 20 minutes to process 25MB of plain text is testament to that.
"you didn't even realize that writing a scheduler isn't hard in GUI"
You're re-inventing the wheel again. Windows has 'Scheduled Tasks', Unix has cron. Surely nobody would be stupid enough to not use these tools.
"You cannot do those apps in shell scripts... and YOU KNOW IT!"
Nobody's claiming screensavers and registry editors are the sort of thing anyone would do in shell. Processing hosts entries in a Delphi GUI is equally idiotic though.
Also, nobody uses screensavers any more. And nobody ever used registry cleaners. You really have wasted your life.
"Also, nobody uses screensavers any more. And nobody ever used registry cleaners. You really have wasted your life." - by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 24, @12:38PM (#34660816)
LMAO... my subject-line, says it all! Between that & my P.S. below? Well... you FAIL, script kiddie!
(ROTFLMAO)
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"Also lies. Unless your GUI code is somehow managing to hose your processor (I wouldn't put it past you), displaying a GUI should make bugger-all difference to throughput." - by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 24, @12:38PM (#34660816)
I step up the process to REALTIME cpu usage, for 1 thing, & it's now done in commandline tty DOS type work (always was, but I didn't intend to give THAT to users, as you seem to do, lol).
Also - anyone that's programmed, especially multiple types of programs KNOWS that commandline/tty terms programs run faster than their GUI analog counterparts... I've even demonstrated this in front of a pal today!
(And, what I wrote? It's ALL MY CODE, & not just shell scripts where you use the work of others in DOZENS of programs as you laughingly have & you *THINK* you're a programmer? PLEASE... lmao!).
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"But you claimed that a single SELECT DISTINCT solved all your problems" - by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 24, @12:38PM (#34660816)
I never EVER said any such thing - I only showed I can do what takes YOU many programs & many lines of code in 1 line of SQL, and that doing so, I can do it FASTER THAN YOU CAN!
(IF I had to solely rely on the code & tools of others, as you plainly have to... noob!)
LOL!
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"No. It won't." - by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 24, @12:38PM (#34660816)
Yes, it will - as you wrote it, just like your wget "pseudocode" would? It's only 1/2 baked!
(Typical of "Script Kiddies"... 1/2 ass stuff, lol!)
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"No. Because there aren't any. Trailing blanks don't affect the functionality of a hosts file anyway, so your point is moot. Have you just learned the term VARCHAR? You seem very fond of it." - by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 24, @12:38PM (#34660816)
Trailing blanks at the tail end of hosts files' record entries bloats the HOSTS file itself... so much for YOUR "know-how", yet again - bloat in diskspace used, is a "no no".
A select distinct in Access will do that, because afaik, it has NO varchar (mySQL does though).
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"I do not claim to be a particularly good programmer." - by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 24, @12:38PM (#34660816)
No, you actually SUCK because you are LIMITED TO SHELL SCRIPTS ONLY it seems, lol... & you said this to me?
"You must be a fucking terrible programmer then" - by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 24, @07:30AM (#34659164)
Funny - seems I have created programs you cannot, and in diff. languages than you have mastered (seems to be only script kiddie shell scripting where you leverage dozens of commands *NIX provides, you didn't write them yourself!)
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"Also, nobody uses screensavers any more. And nobody ever used registry cleaners. You really have wasted your life." - by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 24, @12:38PM (#34660816)
LMAO... my subject-line, says it all! Between that & my P.S. below? Well... you FAIL, script kiddie!
(ROTFLMAO)
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"Also lies. Unless your GUI code is somehow managing to hose your processor (I wouldn't put it past you), displaying a GUI should make bugger-all difference to throughput." - by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 24, @12:38PM (#34660816)
I step up the process to REALTIME cpu usage, for 1 thing, & it's now done in commandline tty DOS type work (always was, but I didn't inten
Also, nobody uses screensavers any more. And nobody ever used registry cleaners. You really have wasted your life." by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 24, @12:38PM (#34660816)
I do, and so do many others. In reality, it's more like nobody uses commandline shell scripts anymore, no normal end user does period typically. Tell us when you get back from 1970 and learn more than just using others' work in shell scripts. The truly amusing part here is watching you run from porting apk's screensaver and registry cleaner to shell scripts. You can't, you know it, and not all the spin in the world can save face for you now. You're a limited script kiddie that only uses the work of others in dozens of commands others wrote. There's a big difference in writing those commands work yourself. Which you obviously cannot do that either.
why should we "come with our guns loaded" if cheap insults are all it takes to sent you off in a tizzy?
"prosthelytizing nerd squads going door-to-door" Haha I love it! Every neighbourhood should have a nerd squad :)
Make IE history
Merry Christmas APK, you crazy bastard. Lots of love from Ars, Ash, and ZDNet. - by Anonymous Coward on Saturday December 25, @06:14AM (#34664924)
Likewise, & always a pleasure in my getting the better of you, as is per my usual.
APK
"Still afraid trollie? Can't say as I blame you, as even other websites [arstechnica.com] laugh at you and make fun of your HOPES file. Afraid to put it to the test? Can't hide behind anecdotes with a REAL test" by hairyfeet (841228) on Friday December 24, @08:00PM (#34663138)
Nope, and as far as arstechnica & a real test? Ok: Arstechnica made fun of themselves blocking their users who used adblock (but they cannot block or detect for hosts files usage):
PERTINENT QUOTE/EXCERPT FROM ARSTECHNICA THEMSELVES:
http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2010/03/why-ad-blocking-is-devastating-to-the-sites-you-love.ars
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An experiment gone wrong - By Ken Fisher | Last updated March 6, 2010 11:11 AM
"Starting late Friday afternoon we conducted a 12 hour experiment to see if it would be possible to simply make content disappear for visitors who were using a very popular ad blocking tool. Technologically, it was a success in that it worked. Ad blockers, and only ad blockers, couldn't see our content."
and
"Our experiment is over, and we're glad we did it because it led to us learning that we needed to communicate our point of view every once in a while. Sure, some people told us we deserved to die in a fire. But that's the Internet!"
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So much for your usual bullshit and the b.s. from arstechnica too. They could detect for and block adblock, but not hosts files.
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1888084&cid=34462614
Lol.
Owned by a script wielding Linux weenie.
"Since nobody else is using your software" - by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 24, @12:38PM (#34660816)
Funny - I showed over 5,000 downloads in only 1 spot where 2 of my apps are downloadable still: Last time I checked? Math says 0
"These are solved problems that you are failing to solve again. If ever there was a problem that suited a shell script, this is it." - by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 24, @12:38PM (#34660816)
Your script? It doesn't work - it's going to 1st "break down" where the wget is (that's pseudocode, you don't have it hook to any sites) & secondly, you're going to have to add a BOATLOAD of parsing because each hosts file maker does their files in a DIFFERENT FORMAT from the others (this is where the PAIN is)...
The funniest part here, is this: UNIX was originally built largely for string processing, it has tools Windows doesn't for this natively since its beginnings...
Still, because of your poorly written mess of a shell script (which nobody uses anymore other than network admins, vs. ordinary end users)? You've failed!
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"I haven't claimed to be able to write C." - by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 24, @12:38PM (#34660816)
You are limited, period.
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"I have claimed to have solved your hosts file generation problem more efficiently than you. This I have done." - by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 24, @12:38PM (#34660816)
You have not solved the problem I noted above, on diff. hosts file formats during imports for merge into a final new unique entry filled HOSTS file... period!
(LMAO - you're going to have a LOT OF FUN with that one... lol!)
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"Also, nobody uses screensavers any more. And nobody ever used registry cleaners. You really have wasted your life." - by Anonymous Coward on Friday December 24, @12:38PM (#34660816)
Really? See how many downloads counts are present for files like that, across the entire web... ok?? 2 examples thereof are in my programs' links, & they have over 5,000 downloads themselves (on a relatively obscure site no less, yet leading downloads on WinRar &/or WinZip both too there though)
APK
P.S.=> Not even a "nice try"... apk
Successful troll is successful. I don’t think there’s any signal left in the noise.
Alexander Peter Kowalski, going on a tirade because somebody actually had the audacious nerve to NOT REINVENT THE WHEEL!
Tell me, Alexander Peter Kowalski, what operating system do you use? Did you write it yourself? HA. I’m betting your own precious program made some system calls to CODE YOU DIDN’T WRITE, too!
Distributed Denial of APK: It takes 15 seconds to reply to him anonymously, but wastes tons of his time if we all do it.
"Alexander Peter Kowalski, going on a tirade because somebody actually had the audacious nerve to NOT REINVENT THE WHEEL!" - by clone52431 (1805862) on Monday December 27, @09:45AM (#34675914)
That "wheel" of yours? LOL, your script doesn't work as it's written - though YOU SAID IT DOES!
1.) You have to actually LINK IT via your wget to the websites that make hosts files for import/merge into YOUR hosts file.
2.) Then, you'll have a devil of a time getting it to remove duplicates, because of the diff. formats used by other HOSTS file makers... period!
(And you KNOW it...)
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Now that we've got clone53421 admitting he's the one trolling me in this exchange - now that's he's FINALLY posted under his normal account name here? Let me show you ALL why he's doing this:
Clone53421 was SO "frustrated" by an argument he & I had here once, he stalked me to another forums and tried posting some b.s. there:
http://www.pcreview.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?s=0c20bd72321b9c96c7a66c25b68b16a6&p=13958812#post13958812
Write Ian Cunningham at PCReview yourselves if you like, as he can verify this all for you, if my word here isn't good enough.
clone53421 also ran from disproving points in favor of HOSTS files I posted here before:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1755714&cid=33353946
And now, as you can all see? He's "stalking" my posts regarding HOSTS files, as he has here... pitiful!
APK
P.S.=> The funny part still is that his "script kiddie" script doesn't work as it was written - even though he SAYS it does (b.s., it will fail first on his wget's & then later when he tries to "merge import" the widely different formats others use that make HOSTS files (and he KNOWS it)... apk
"Post the URLs where you pick up your data, and I'll fix the wget lines and write a parser. Shouldn't take more than an hour." - by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 27, @03:17PM (#34678872)
LOL, but I thought your script worked? First of all, that makes you, a LIAR...
Secondly? LMAO, yea, ok - you'd take THAT LONG to just finish off a wget commandline??
Wait till you see the diff. formats used by those hosts files makers, & your code now WILL FAIL and you KNOW IT!
Else why mention you'd have to write a parser???
You'll have to add a TON OF EXTRA LINES for dealing with the diff. in format between HOSTS files makers on their websites, IF you can deal with it at all, we'll see...
This is the PAIN part as I noted above repeatedly, and now? NOW, you finally admit your "script kiddie" script does NOT work!
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"I was talking about this crazy hosts file software, not your other abominations." - by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 27, @03:17PM (#34678872)
Well, those "other abominations" of mine are parts of commercially sold software, first of all... & secondly? The day you've done ALL of this yourself (more & earlier especially - I did this while you were still in diapers I strongly wager):
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Windows NT Magazine (now Windows IT Pro) April 1997 "BACK OFFICE PERFORMANCE" issue, page 61
(&, for work done for EEC Systems/SuperSpeed.com on PAID CONTRACT (writing portions of their SuperCache program increasing its performance by up to 40% via my work) albeit, for their SuperDisk & HOW TO APPLY IT, took them to a finalist position @ MS Tech Ed, two years in a row 2000-2002, in its HARDEST CATEGORY: SQLServer Performance Enhancement).
WINDOWS MAGAZINE, 1997, "Top Freeware & Shareware of the Year" issue page 210, #1/first entry in fact (my work is there)
PC-WELT FEB 1998 - page 84, again, my work is featured there
WINDOWS MAGAZINE, WINTER 1998 - page 92, insert section, MUST HAVE WARES, my work is again, there
PC-WELT FEB 1999 - page 83, again, my work is featured there
CHIP Magazine 7/99 - page 100, my work is there
GERMAN PC BOOK, Data Becker publisher "PC Aufrusten und Repairen" 2000, where my work is contained in it
HOT SHAREWARE Numero 46 issue, pg. 54 (PC ware mag from Spain), 2001 my work is there, first one featured, yet again!
Also, a British PC Mag in 2002 for many utilities I wrote, saw it @ BORDERS BOOKS but didn't buy it... by that point, I had moved onto other areas in this field besides coding only...
Being paid for an article that made me money over @ PCPitstop in 2008 for writing up a guide that has people showing NO VIRUSES/SPYWARES & other screwups, via following its point, such as THRONKA sees here -> http://www.xtremepccentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=ee926d913b81bf6d63c3c7372fd2a24c&t=28430&page=3
Lastly, lately (this year)?
It's also been myself helping out the folks at the UltraDefrag64 project (a 64-bit defragger for Windows), in showing them code for how to do Process Priority Control @ the GUI usermode/ring 3/rpl 3 level in their program (good one too), & being credited for it by their lead dev & his team... see here -> http://ultradefrag.sourceforge.net/handbook/Credits.html
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Is the day you can talk about apps I've written that way...
After all - others in respected publications liked my work in software enough to feature them in their periodicals & books, etc./et al & even some of it went to the commercial software realm... have YOU done the same? NO!
I don't put this program out (APK Hosts File Grinder 4.0++) for others o use is why, lol!
It's solely for my OWN personal usage , & for doing what the IMPORTANT PART here is:
Putting out a HOSTS file that's as totally comprehensive as p
"Post the URLs where you pick up your data, and I'll fix the wget lines and write a parser" - by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 27, @03:17PM (#34678872)
LMAO - That was the part I was WAITING to see: An ADMISSION YOUR SCRIPT KIDDIE SCRIPT DOESN'T WORK AS WRITTEN!
(and you KNOW it... lol!)
You called my program all kinds of names, but it works, whereas yours? Well... lmao!
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"I'll even here-script the awk and add a zenity GUI so that is really is a single script, with a GUI, that completely and utterly destroys your hilariously crap Delphi implementation." - by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 27, @03:17PM (#34678872)
Let's see - You've used these commands you didn't write yourself at this point:
mv
awk
wget
ping
sort
sed
cat
& more... & you *THINK* that makes you a "programmer"?
You're a SCRIPT KIDDIE... I've written all of those commands' functionality, myself, in my Delphi program...
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"Or are you scared a 'limited script-kiddie' might out code and out perform you?" - by Anonymous Coward on Monday December 27, @03:17PM (#34678872)
No, actually, I hope it works out for you...
(As it never hurts to have others into HOSTS files usage, because they work vs. known online sites that are known to try to "f'up" your system! It's NOT much different than what your DNA does, maintaining signatures of actual REAL VIRUSES in its bases, for identification/filtering out, etc.)
Still - you ALSO can't implement my other programs in scripts, that you already ADMITTED to which shows you are, indeed, LIMITED in skill, if not only by the tools you chose to learn to "code"!
(I use that term loosely, because all you did was use others' work in the commandlist I put up above from YOUR script kiddie script).
APK
P.S.=> My sources I use, & good luck - & yes, I mean that, I hope it works out for you, even though you are reinventing MY wheel:
http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm
http://someonewhocares.org/hosts/
http://hostsfile.org/hosts.html
http://hostsfile.mine.nu/downloads/
http://hosts-file.net/?s=Download
https://zeustracker.abuse.ch/monitor.php?filter=online
There's others, like Spybot "Search & Destroy" too, but that integrates hosts file fortifying entries via its GUI, not an externally merged file...
(Good luck, again, & especially w/ mvps.org's &/or someonewhocares versions, they put so much SHIT into them, it's horrible to parse by comparison to the others)... apk
A few things.
1) I'm not that clone guy. I think that should be pretty obvious from the difference in writing style.
2) You are the only person on earth that cares about, for example, a 13 year old magazine article that doesn't appear to mention you in any capacity.
3) You still haven't posted the URLs for the hosts data. I have a feeling you're petrified of a 'script-kiddie' making a complete fool of you, so you're never going to post them.
4) I made it perfectly clear that the wgets were stubs and that I was using randomly generated data, so calling me a liar makes you look a bit silly.
Come on apk, be the bigger man. Post the data sources.
See subject-line, & YOU ARE MERELY "REINVENTING MY WHEEL" - you know, my "APK Hosts File Grinder 4.0++" program, which actually WORKS, unlike your "script kiddie script"...
Ah yes - this is the HILARIOUS part: You said your script kiddie script, actually worked... but, it clearly does NOT, & I had to show you how & WHY it doesn't... which you clearly are now admitting to!
What's this? Say it ain't so! APK had to correct yet another *NIX "Script Kiddie" on /.?? LMAO!
Funny how ONLY NOW do you ADMIT YOUR "SCRIPT KIDDIE SCRIPT" doesn't work as it was written here earlier -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1922942&cid=34658206
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"3) You still haven't posted the URLs for the hosts data. I have a feeling you're petrified of a 'script-kiddie' making a complete fool of you, so you're never going to post them." - by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 28, @06:42AM (#34684836
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1922942&cid=34684770
No, no senor - I actually DID post them in the link above in another post!
Why not? You MAY make something useful for *NIX people - but then, commands vary even if they have the SAME NAME in *NIX's, & you'll have to port that to them IF you want widespread usage!
E.G.-> BSD commands are NOT the same as Linux shell or other commands...
NOR DO THEY EXIST IN WINDOWS NATIVELY!
(Your script kiddie script? Not that useful, but hey, let's let YOU, reinvent "APK's wheel", ok?)
(Yes - YOU'RE REINVENTING MY WHEEL, & "IMITATION IS THE SINCEREST FORM OF FLATTERY"... albeit, you're doing so, in script kiddie script & using 7-8 *NIX commands for which you didn't even WRITE THE CODE FOR (but I have), which normal users don't generally use mind you, though you tried to say "nobody uses screensavers or registry cleaners" - check the downloads of either worldwide, & tell us another one, lol!)
You've already PROVEN your "Script Kiddie Code" doesn't work via your own admissions of having to do more to it, even though you said it would work, as is... lol!
You'll find out how much more work you have to do to it, soon!
(Additionally - For which you used 7-8 *NIX commands that won't run natively on Windows mind you, & that you didn't actually write the code for while you try to REINVENT MY WHEEL, no less).
Still, I wished you luck, because the IMPORTANT PART isn't even the code used here, it's the HOSTS file data, itself... good luck, you'll need it, & you've already proven yourself a liar in saying your script already worked... it does not, & YOU KNOW IT!
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"1) I'm not that clone guy. I think that should be pretty obvious from the difference in writing style." - by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 28, @06:42AM (#34684836)
Sure, sure... lmao!
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"2) You are the only person on earth that cares about, for example, a 13 year old magazine article that doesn't appear to mention you in any capacity." - by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 28, @06:42AM (#34684836)
Since you've never had your work appear in respected publications? You might want to understand a few things:
DEVS' NAMES? They USUALLY never, ever, get noted... look at any article on software in publications, it's just how it is.
(Usually only the "company in its entirety" does, with a mgt. figure representing them typically)...
STILL:
You're FREE to write Mr. Eric Dickman, CEO of SuperSpeed.com (was EEC systems back then)!
Ask him if I was on a paid contract for my code, which was used to improve their SuperCache I/II line of programs, which I did, by up to 40% better in fact (better than the Windows IT Pro mag article in fact, even though the programs reviewed great there even then too).
Ask him if my ideas were featured on the
I corrected you by showing you HOW/WHERE/WHEN/WHY your already blown code won't work on HOSTS file data import & conversion, & got you to admit it doesn't work
(Despite your use of 8 commands you yourself never wrote up & merely "use" no less... which you said WORKED ALREADY no less (a lie))
and
That YOU are REINVENTING MY WHEEL (the "APK Hosts File Grinder 4.0++), but failing so far, badly in your "script kiddie" script... too easy!
The old adage of "IMITATION IS THE SINCEREST FORM OF FLATTERY" applies here, lol, IF YOU COULD ONLY GET YOUR IMITATION TO WORK RIGHT THAT IS, lol...
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"I’m not “clone53421”, learn to read moron." - by clone52431 (1805862) on Tuesday December 28, @08:30AM (#34685344)
LOL, & you're STILL A TROLLING WEASEL though!
You were asked to disprove my points on HOSTS files, especially vs. Adblock &/or DNS servers (& BOTH of those programs' faults, which HOSTS files DO "cure")...
You still haven't managed that, have you?
Nope -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1755714&cid=33353946
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"And that wasn’t my script" - by clone52431 (1805862) on Tuesday December 28, @08:30AM (#34685344)
LMAO - yea, sure, "ok"... funniest part is, YOU SAID IT WORKED, & then tried to "mock me"?
LOL, it's awfully funny how more than 4 hours have gone by now, & your saying it'd only take you an hour to write up the parsers needed for the numerously different formats HOSTS files makers use... ?
Please... learn to lose, gracefully @ least! You said this:
Alexander Peter Kowalski, going on a tirade because ,b>somebody actually had the audacious nerve to NOT REINVENT THE WHEEL!" - by clone52431 (1805862) on Monday December 27, @09:45AM (#34675914)
Funny thing is, ,b>your "wheelmaker" script kiddie isn't able to "REINVENT MY WHEEL" like he said he could in an hour (it's you, we know it, who else would show up this deep into a /. discussion at this point?)...
I am loving this - it's a definite VICTORY vs. yourself, big talker...
APK
P.S.=>
"I just stepped into the fray to let everyone know you’re a full retard." - by clone52431 (1805862) on Tuesday December 28, @08:30AM (#34685344)
My my, "frustrated into using profanity" & "adhominem attacks" are we? LOL, is THAT the "best you've got"?
Apparently so - because your "script kiddie" script that uses 8 tools I literally wrote the functionality for into my single program isn't working... that's certain! lol... apk
"That wasn’t me, you dense fucking ass. I’ve told you it wasn’t me, and the guy who wrote it has told you that I’m not him. How much more clear could we make it?" - by clone52431 (1805862) on Tuesday December 28, @10:05AM (#34686218)
See subject-line, & do you *THINK* you're fooling anyone here? Not.
Clone, listen:
Nobody shows up that late into a discussion like this, & you obviously "slipped" when you hit the submit button this time - instead of replying "AC" as you can!
(Especially since you registered LUSERS (who are easily tracked for trolling via your post history makes it so) can do so...)
You messed up, as usual, vs. myself... ah, nothing like consistency, eh? LMAO!
APK
P.S.=> You've made my bookmarks/favs again, in my "trolls" section once more!
Just like you did here before where you were BLATANTLY UNABLE to disprove my points on HOSTS files (vs. Adblock &/or DNS servers):
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1755714&cid=33353946
Are you also going to stalk me to another forums & get yourself BANNED AGAIN, as you did at PCReview?
http://www.pcreview.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?s=0c20bd72321b9c96c7a66c25b68b16a6&p=13958812#post13958812
(Write Ian Cunningham at PCReview yourselves if you like, as he can verify this all for you, if my word here isn't good enough).
Not even a "nice try" troll, & "as-per-my-usual"? I gotta say it:
"too, Too, TOO EASY... just '2EZ'"... apk
"None of the data sources required anything more than a bog standard sed/grep line to extract the relevant data." - by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 28, @08:36AM (#34685386)
See subject-line above... didn't YOU say that, to me? You've still got to prove "your work", actually works (not yours really, you used 8 or more *NIX commands to do a "script kiddie script" is all - I literally wrote those commands function myself for my single app (1 moving part, vs. your 8-12? Please!))
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"Hang your head in shame, Sir." - by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 28, @08:36AM (#34685386)
I don't think so... heck, I KNOW NOT!
Already once I had to CORRECT YOU, on "your work" no less, & how/why/when/where it failed... &, it did!
Basically, it came down to this:
You've not only TRIED to duplicate my work here, after all, but, YOU FAILED AT IT, AND W/ ME HAVING TO SHOW YOU HOW/WHEN/WHERE/WHY YOU FAILED, no less...
(After LYING outright when you said it already worked)
So... how many days now have you been working on it again? Won't you tell us?? LMAO!
Still - I wonder: Does your "script kiddie" usage of 8 or more *NIX commands remove duplicates AND trim off each entry properly?
I doubt it... & it doesn't QUITE look like this anymore (even though you said this works, & I had to SHOW YOU WHY IT DOES NOT) ->
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1922942&cid=34658206
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"20 minutes runtime to do that? Hang your head in shame, Sir." - by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 28, @08:36AM (#34685386)
Mine works, yours does not (I proved that much earlier, despite your LIES that "your work" worked right (again, not really YOURS since you used 8-10 *NIX commands in a script only))
You FAILED!
(I had to tell you how/where/when/why too, Mr. *NIX script kiddie (hell, you're not EVEN THAT, especially since I had to correct you!)).
I have it down to just over 1.4 minutes now (albeit in character mode/DOS/tty term type apps, with CPU priority RAISED to REALTIME & the data itself broken into 48 parts, to do so)... beat that!
You can't, you know it, & you STILL DON'T HAVE YOUR SCRIPT KIDDIE SCRIPT WORKING AS WELL AS MY SINGLE WARE DOES!
(& I didn't use 8 built in *NIX commands to do my work either, lol... I wrote mine, by hand!).
This is hilarious: I had to show YOU, the "great script kiddie" how & where + WHY you "break down", despite your earlier LIES saying your original code, worked.
You've been busted lying above all else & your work still isn't proven...
I say that, simply because I don't think you remove duplicated entries properly even though you use *NIX commands to do the work for you, script kiddie!
(Do double-check your work on that account & actually, I wish you "good luck", as I said before - you MAY actually make a usable tool, albeit in scripts using others' work I have already SHOWN I can write myself, where you cannot...).
APK
P.S.=> Took you longer than 1 hour, and you're STILL not working right... lol, but remember this, above ALL else:
IMITATION IS THE SINCEREST FORM OF FLATTERY
However, you've STILL got to prove your "imitation" is that, & does the same as my app does... you have not - all you have proven, is your overconfidence in saying earlier it would, & my experience in this was your undoing - I've "been there & done that" with my OWN code (not others' tools as you used in mv, awk, sed, sort, wget, ping & more)! apk
Nobody shows up that late into a discussion like this
I did. Your argument is invalid.
Distributed Denial of APK: It takes 15 seconds to reply to him anonymously, but wastes tons of his time if we all do it.
Again: You obviously "slipped" when you hit the submit button this time - instead of replying "AC" as you can!
Ah, it was GREAT showing you, the "script kiddie" how to do his OWN scripts no less, correcting you!
Too easy... just TOO easy!
(Yes, it's always FUN making a FOOL OUT OF YOU, clone... you make it VERY easy to do is why!)
APK
P.S.=> You've made my bookmarks/favs again, in my "trolls" section once more!
Just like you did here before where you were BLATANTLY UNABLE to disprove my points on HOSTS files (vs. Adblock &/or DNS servers):
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1755714&cid=33353946
So - Are you also going to stalk me to another forums & get yourself BANNED AGAIN, as you did at PCReview?
http://www.pcreview.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?s=0c20bd72321b9c96c7a66c25b68b16a6&p=13958812#post13958812
?
(Write Ian Cunningham at PCReview yourselves if you like, as he can verify this all for you, if my word here isn't good enough).
Not even a "nice try" troll, & "as-per-my-usual"? I gotta say it:
"too, Too, TOO EASY... just '2EZ'"... apk
"I’m replying to you under my username on purpose, you dimwit" - by clone52431 (1805862) on Tuesday December 28, @10:47AM (#34686842)
Ahem: "BullShit" - you slipped on replying as AC, & we ALL KNOW IT... NOBODY comes in this late into a post this deep, & replies, unless they were here already!
Do you *THINK* you're "fooling anyone", troll?
I mean, lol, after all:
You've trolled me before, & FAILED hugely (per my subject-line above):
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1755714&cid=33353946
Funny how those technical points of mine "stand strong" vs. your off topic, profanity laden, stupid adhominem attacks!
(Poor little troll, frustrated again, lol, into his adhominem attacks here, and how he FAILED at disproving my points on HOSTS files as shown above... too easy!)
You also posted as AC, because your IMITATION of my work with "your work", doesn't work & I PROVED THAT MUCH & had to show you how/when/why/where to correct for it!
(Despite your stating initially "your code" (script that uses others' work really) works right - it did not, you had to make amendments... amendments that came FROM ME, because they were needed!).
I mean, what: Do you stupid little *NIX scripting kiddie pricks think you're the ONLY ONES that know *NIX? I was using *NIX, when you were STILL IN DIAPERS I strongly wager!
That's how I was able to tell YOU, the "Script Kiddie", what's-what here + HOW your work, fails!
(That work? Again, it's NOT really yours: You only used what *NIX is good at, via others' work in commands like ping, awk, sed, sort, mv, wget, & more - text processing commands, which IS what AT&T/Bell Labs designed it for in the 1st place).
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"And I never got banned at any PCReview forum"
- by clone52431 (1805862) on Tuesday December 28, @10:47AM (#34686842)
Like I said before? Anyone is FREE to write that site's owner, Ian Cunningham, & see if a clone52431 user didn't try to "troll me" there, after I WHIPPED HIM on hosts files advantages, here on /.!
(Which still, again, stands strong on my points on HOSTS files, vs. a puny "script kiddie" troll, like clone52431 here... after all, he never disproved my points in favor of HOSTS files!)
APK
P.S.=> Ah, yes... as usual: "too, Too, TOO EASY... just '2EZ'"... apk
"But his is written in Visual Basic and has pretty ASCII art in the title bar!" - by clone52431 (1805862) on Monday December 27, @09:40AM (#34675884)
Oh, clone, you're "SO CLEVER" (not)!
You're now trying to post attacks on myself, in 2 diff. locations here, like some stooge troll would??
LMAO!
Man - you not only trolled me here & got busted for it again, as you tried to troll me on my points on HOSTS files vs. Adblock &/or DNS alone:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1755714&cid=33353946
I also had to show you that your "script kiddie code" doesn't work & how/when/where/why etc.:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1922942&cid=34684420
Which you had to correct it for, per my suggestions because I am the "voice of experience" here!
(AND, STILL IT WON'T WORK - your deduplications will fail, due to diff. hosts file formats!)
AND, it's FAR from "your work", as you are using 8 *NIX commands no less, you didn't create those at all (where my program DOES ALL OF WHAT THEY DO, & I WROTE IT MYSELF)
APK
P.S.=> 1 for the "bookmarks/favs", as per my usual... The funniest part is, though, that I had to correct "the great *NIX script kiddie"... that's classic! ...
So, clone: Are you going to follow me to other forums to try to "troll me" because you got your ass handed to you by my superior know how as usual vs. yourself?
"Inquiring minds want to know", lol... apk
I’ve been here all along. by clone52431 (1805862) on Tuesday December 28, @11:04AM (#34687128)
So have I, and it is obvious you forgot to post as AC as you have been doing, while your script kiddie script failed badly and APK had to show you how - when - where - why - and how it failed as well as telling you how to correct it, which you had to, because as usual apk was right. That really chaps your ass doesn't it, troll? It's obvious it does: Look at your adhominem attack reactions here calling APK names, and yet apk came up on top here, showing that you posting as AC troll messed up on a shell script (which commands are in it you never even created yourself, taking the easy way out), and you still did not get it right, even though you said it worked? Please.
"That clone geezer really isn't me, by the way. It amuses me that you've accused three different people of being me in this thread. But that's by the by." - by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 28, @11:11AM (#34687234)
Sure it's not... kind of like how your first shell script was running & working for you?? Funny it wasn't & you HAD TO LISTEN TO ME why/how/when/where/what failed in it, & you had to correct for it!
Funny that, eh?
(And, we STILL don't know if it works... I'd say no, because I believe your de-duplication/normalization will fail, due to diff. formats used in HOSTS files)
E.G.-> Did you account for these things:
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1.) Capital letters used on a URL, vs. not being used (this happens, same URL will appear many times due to this)... an "toUpCase" or "toLowerCase" style method/function can help!
2.) Trimming off excessive blanks trailing each entry (trim/rtrim/ltrim help here)
3.) THE TOUGH PART - you'll have to do a LOT more sed work for your replace methods, because hosts files have DIFF. blocking entries, from diff. hosts file makers (not only diff. in 127.0.0.1, vs. 0.0.0.0, or even 0, but also the characters used to "pad" between that blocking address & the actual hosts/domain name).
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See, I've been there & done it: This is WHY I am "the voice of experience" here, and you are not, & why you had to AMEND YOUR WORK - per my suggestions on why, which you did!
(Hell, I'll even HELP you here... why not? I have enough already by this point, lol!)
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"'APK Hosts File Grinder' in an hour and in 56 lines of shell has to go down in history as the most humiliating pwnage in the totality of human experience" - by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday December 28, @11:11AM (#34687234)
Mine works... yours does not (I thought you said it worked though, days ago? Hmmm?? LOL!)
Sure, sure: My making you look stupid, and a liar? That has been MY PLEASURE... too easy!
APK
P.S.=> After all - didn't you SAY "YOUR PROGRAM" WORKED RIGHT, DAYS AGO? Yes, you did (b.s., it's not even YOUR WORK, as you used 8-10 *NIX string processing commands to do it, & you didn't write those either)...
Funny how "little ole' me" had to "show up" you little *NIX dorks... & with a program that outdoes what you shell scripting kiddies can't even GET RIGHT, 1st time out & probably not now (per what I wrote above)... apk
Clone - You've trolled me before, & FAILED hugely (per my subject-line above):
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1755714&cid=33353946
Right there, in that URL above... hilarious - you couldn't disprove my points in favor of HOSTS files over adblock &/or DNS servers (which hosts correct BOTH of their shortcomings for extra speed, extra security online, & even extra "anonymity" too).
Funny how those technical points of mine "stand strong" vs. your off topic, profanity laden, stupid adhominem attacks!
You also posted as AC here in other posts, because your IMITATION of my work with "your work", via shell scripts on *NIX wasn't SOLID, though you said it was
(That's also the only place it's good for, and then it won't "port" correctly to a BSD *NIX variant either, because though their commands have the same names, the parameterizations are DIFFERENT)
Hahaha, ,b>it doesn't work & I PROVED THAT MUCH & had to show you how/when/why/where to correct for it!
Which you now TRIED to, but it will fail, yet again...
APK
P.S.=> Yes, this about "says it all for me", as you tried to attack me on posts you didn't think I'd see too like this one:
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1922942&cid=34675884
?
Please...
"I’m done arguing with you, anyway." - by clone52431 (1805862) on Tuesday December 28, @11:28AM (#34687474)
I don't blame you @ this point: You're SO "full of bullet holes", it's amazing... lol, yea, you're "done" alright:
"WELL DONE/EXTRA CRISPY CHARRED & BURNED" by your own stupidity in trolling... ah, "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2EZ'"... apk
You’re obviously too scared to e-mail the admins, who will just verify what I already told you.
Distributed Denial of APK: It takes 15 seconds to reply to him anonymously, but wastes tons of his time if we all do it.
"I'm done arguing with you, anyway." - by clone52431 (1805862) on Tuesday December 28, @11:28AM (#34687474)
LOL, can't "keep your word", troll? Of course not - your posting here as AC was your undoing trying to "take me on", because your shell script, though you said it worked RIGHT, days AGO? Didn't... & you had to correct it, just as I said you had to, & where... bonus!
Oh, & You'll have to do MORE to it, per my now extra added suggestions now vs. your current model of MY PROGRAM (imitation IS the sincerest form of flattery) -> http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1922942&cid=34687498
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"You're obviously too scared to e-mail the admins, who will just verify what I already told you." - by clone52431 (1805862) on Tuesday December 28, @11:49AM (#34687794)
Clone, they can't "give away" information like IP Addresses & what not... so what would that prove? It's just TOO OBVIOUS you came in here, trolling me, again as you did here failing AND LYING that your script actually worked right DAYS AGO, which, it clearly did not, or you would not have made changes - changes I TOLD YOU YOU HAD TO MAKE, & you did!
(You also earlier FAILED ON disproving my points in favor of HOSTS files over DNS &/or AdBlock programs alone, here http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1755714&cid=33353946 too, still "stinging" I see, lol, else why "troll me" failing as you did again, here? It's TOO obvious!)
As hosts make up for the deficiencies in BOTH AdBlock &/or DNS servers, acting as a PERFECT SUPPLEMENT to them both, for added online speed, added online security, & even a degree of "extra anonymity" too (avoiding DNS block lists &/or DNS request logs).
APK
P.S.=> Yes, it has been a PLEASURE "trashing you", easily, on ALL accounts noted above here now... ah, just "too, Too, TOO EASY" (just too easy)... apk
I cower because of niggers.
Do you like niggers? I like niggers. If you don't like niggers then you are a racist. I am so afraid, so very afraid. Of niggers.
Anyone with multiple accounts is a nigger, so of course you like niggers. Can't hate your own kind and all of that. Nigger.
Naturally, hiding your name behind "Anonymous Coward" is totally different from hiding your karma score behind a bunch of sockpuppet accounts. That last sentence was sarcasm, you hypocritical jigaboo.