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Ubuntu Powered Tablet Spotted!
dkd903 writes "The year 2010 had been all buzz with tablets and a similar trend is expected during the year 2011 too. We have already seen a lot of Android powered tablets. But how does a tablet powered by Ubuntu sound? A Chinese manufacturer TENQ has launched a tablet called P07. The device is said to be running Ubuntu 10.10 Netbook Edition and the boot time reported to be almost instant."
Say it ain't so, Yoggie !!
Surely 2011 will be the Year of the Linux Tablet now?
... TFA is already /.ed.
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Is this 4chan? Where am I?
I guess the server's uptime is about the same as the tablet's boot-time once the /. crowd "spotted" the product.
2011: Year of the Linux Tablet
Analogous to "Year of the linux desktop every year, next year!"
Sorry, it had to be done.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:h8oRGG22slsJ:gadgetizor.com/the-tablet-season-brings-a-new-ubuntu-powered-tablet/6304/+http://gadgetizor.com/the-tablet-season-brings-a-new-ubuntu-powered-tablet/6304/&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a
Google has a cached version: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:h8oRGG22slsJ:gadgetizor.com/the-tablet-season-brings-a-new-ubuntu-powered-tablet/6304/+http://gadgetizor.com/the-tablet-season-brings-a-new-ubuntu-powered-tablet/6304/&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a
...does it run Linu..oh wait.
Palm trees and 8
The Ubuntu UI is very nice, but it's designed around the assumption of a big screen and a precise pointing device. The icons are too small, and the menus too long and deep to be navigated in a small screen with a touchscreen, from what I can guess.
Am I part of the core demographic for Swedish Fish?
http://www.gizchina.com/2010/12/23/exclusive-leaked-images-reveal-ubuntu-powered-tablet/
Seems there is more info at gizchina http://www.gizchina.com/2010/12/28/ubuntu-tablet-details-surface/
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It's right there on the website at the top...
FORBIDDEN!
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
GO to ebay, search Tablet PC. Pick one.
Download Ubuntu 10.10
Install Ubuntu 10.10 on the tablet.
Magical poof happens with a bright brown genie appearing and angels singing.... you have a ubuntu tablet! Something that nobody ever though of....
Granted, Tablet PC's have been around for decades, and running Linux on them has been happening for decades.... Ignore that.
Fujitsu stylistic works great, plus I can use a stylus so I can use it as a writing tablet. Too bad there is not a OS replacement for MSFT One Note.
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
The index page of the website seems to be working fine, its just the articles that are down. This means that while you won't be able to read all of TFA, you can read three sentences and see a photo.
Ah, the form factor which combines all the problems of "too big" and "too small."
It's nice to see Ubuntu on there, but you've still got the "Where the fuck is the keyboard" problem and the "the screen is too small" problem and the "it doesn't fit in my pocket" problem. Some of these are problems I can live with; tradeoffs are a good thing and a sacrifice in one place can pay for itself in another. But all of the problems at once, without any advantage to balance it all out? No thanks.
Tablets: a solution which creates problems without solving any.
Get it down to where it will fit in a pocket, and I'll find a way to use it, in situations where anything bigger is too big.
Put a keyboard on it, and I can use it to get things done, whether it fits in a pocket or not.
Give it a 50" screen and I'll use it in the living room.
As is, this thing or an iPad or others like it: No place to take it to. No time when it's the right tool for the job. No point where it's useful. Lame.
It's been on MY tablet since 199x!
the iPad is cool not because it can read email but the app store. all kinds of apps that do things that were unimagined a few years ago.
i'm looking at an ipad next year because there are apps for kids that even out the cost between buying crap like leapfrog. there are apps to get kids to learn to read
boot time reported to be almost instant.
"Boot time"? On a tablet? Is this thing following the failed Windows Tablet paradigm rather than the iOS/Android model?
#DeleteChrome
TFS: The device is said to be running Ubuntu 10.10 Netbook Edition and the boot time reported to be almost instant.
The question is whether it will crash instantly after a kernel update (due to a GRUB issue). This will instantly please all users.
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TaijiQuan (Huang, 5 loosenings)
Sharp introduced an Ubuntu tablet 6 months ago, as part of their `Netwalker' line.
I think Always Innovating was supporting Ubuntu on their tablets before that.
Maybe there are others, also; still, each new one is nice to see.
-rozzin.
"almost instant" is equivalent to three finger snaps
No more pollution, no more hunger, and no more wars.
The Ubuntu-powered Tablet shows off the first real-world application of Ubuntu power, which is the world's first free-as-in-beer AND free-as-in-freedom power source. No longer will we rely on arcane power storage devices such as Lithium-Polymer batteries, or dangerous power generation methods like coal-fired generators.
I, for one, welcome our new Ubuntu Overlords!
Do daemons dream of electric sleep()?
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by TheSpoom (715771) Uncaring Linux user here. I have nothing to add to this but please continue. *munches popcorn*
The article has apparently been slashdotted, so I can only guess how it's been implemented.
Please bear with me, I have to take a run-up to this.
I've used the Galaxy tablet, an iPad, and a tablet running Windows 7.
The iPad is very stable intuitive and usable. The Android tablet works much the same as the iPad with the additional features of a higher degree of customization, widgets, flash, and so forth.
The Windows 7 tablet sucks.
The main reason the Windows 7 tablet sucks is that the GUI doesn't seem to like living on a tablet. Too many operations assume keyboard and two button mouse, and tablet support consists of clumsy work-arounds to simulate a two button mouse on a tablet, when what is sorely needed is a new, mouseless paradigm, as the iPad and Android already have.
An additional problem I'm having with the Win7 tablet is that the virtual keyboard is not accurate enough to type in yer damned password. I have to resort to a physical keyboard to log into the damned thing. Part of the problem is probably hardware, but it does not help that the keys do not light up or do anything to indicate what key it thinks you've pressed, and you can't see what you're typing. If this really was designed to be a touch interface, instead of something cobbled together to have a presence in the tablet market, it'd work better than that.
Parenthetically, Microsoft already has a killer touch interface in Surface, so at least some people in Redmond know how a touch GUI is supposed to work. Given that, it totally baffles me that they'd try to push off this Windows 7 kludge as a serious contender in the tablet marketplace. I mean, what the hell?
Which brings us to Ubuntu. I've used past versions, and am very impressed. It's a tight little OS with a fast, well integrated, and at times amusing GUI. (I still get a kick out of shaking the rubber windows.) I think putting Ubuntu on a tablet is a very exciting idea.
But
Ubuntu out of the box is just as mousey as Winders. If all they're going to do is paste on work-around gestures to simulate a multi-button mouse and throw up a virtual keyboard, I'm not interested. I've already been down that road, and don't want to go through that frustration again. If that's what they're planning to offer, I'll stick with Android.
However, if Ubuntu produces a really truly designed-from-ground-up-to-be-mouseless interface, and it works well, then I'm all over that.
This is going to be interesting. Apple did the transition correctly to touch devices -- they came up with a brand new set of GUI rules instead of trying to reuse the paradigms in OSX. Android was designed from the start to be a touch interface. Winders has flubbed it so far, for their consumer devices at least. It'll be fascinating to see what Ubuntu does.
Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
Grub2 that ubuntu/mint use works very well I usually keep my kernels latest release and have never had problems with Grub2. I've had lots of problems however with Alsa/PulseAudio doing kernel updates. I use Grub2 for booting 4/os and its awesome when I install a new distro don't install the new distro's Grub/Lilo. Boot to Mint go to terminal type "update grub2" works every time.
Also with a tablet I doubt you would even see the boot loader on the screen. How many people will install 2 os on a tablet? Why give people boot options when it is completely unnecessary.
Imagine starting up your new Mac/Win machine and it gives you an option to boot into OSX/Win7 respectively wouldn't you just be thinking WTF is wrong with the people that made this thing? It would actually look kind of amateurish if there was a visible Grub2 during boot.
Really that many people recompile their kernel amazing. I think your being optimistic about the number of geeky enough people.
Yup. I was thinking the same thing, but I'm out of mod points. I wanted to grab a tablet PC, put a desktop or screensaver with a single image from Ubuntu, and take a picture of it. That'll learn everybody.
Why don't tablet makers that want to use a full desktop OS think about using it with Synergy (on sourceforge)???
It's a perfect complement.
If the tablet is running Win7 or x86 Linux, then when it's docked next to my monitor, it fires up synergy and the mouse and keyboard control it just like an extra screen. When I pull it off the cradle, Synergy shuts down, and now it's a distinct computer. If running Ubuntu, it can still run Windows apps via Wine (critical for how I want to use a tablet).
I don't know why these companies don't see this option!!!
Don't steal. The government hates competition.
Like I hadn't seen enough "Ubuntu conquers the World!" news this month. I was pretty much saturated with that already after perusing the magazines at the local Borders and saw almost nothing but magazines containing DVDs of the newest Ubuntu distribution or some beta copy of it. I doubt I would have been surprised to find one stuck in the latest Tiger Beat or Cosmo.
Heh. Alpha user? Just kidding. (I guess I've spent way too much time at P00>>> prompts in recent months.)
Surely you meant "instantaneous". (Sorry 'bout that.)
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I blame this on the OEM's who could have escaped the grasp of Microsoft but, in their haste, failed to ensure that the customer experience was a good one.
On the OEM side, the urgent need is to build a rapidly sale-able product. Microsoft is a good way to sell product for an OEM. Brands like Dell and HP sell lots of boxes with Windows on them. OEM's know this and tailor product accordingly. End users know Microsoft's Windows and are comfortable with it. Add to that the strong likelihood there are Marketing dollars committed by Microsoft to help sell the device.
If an OEM takes a huge chance and has an alternative OS, the business climate inside an OEM is as obsessed with capturing as much value as possible, so building their own distro seems like the best choice. Weird, but true. Look at the OEM that shipped Linux to Walmart. Their own distro.
What about Ubuntu? They can't possibly make a viable deal with an OEM. No money, no market penetration. Very little money in end-user sales like Ubuntu's so they will scrape along until the patriarch is tired of funding the project and fires most employees to get it breaking even.
It takes quite a bit to line up a deal where an OEM is shipping Linux. Especially with Microsoft discouraging the presence of Linux distro-equipped end-user devices like notebooks, tablets, phones, etc.
http://www.maxineudall.com/2010/02/should-economists-be-sued-for-malpractice.html
I believe the Kno's underlying OS is Ubuntu 9.10 - (it's a single or dual screen 14.1" tablet intended for students, which allows annotations/notes/etc. - see here: http://www.kno.com/the-kno/specs (altho a Web Kit layer runs everything and the user doesn't have direct access to Ubuntu)).
When I tried to access the sight, I was "Forbidden" - 403 error LOL :-D
Your sarcasm is old. And broken. Please get some new sarcasm. In the fresh, minty flavor!
When you want something built, come see me. If you want correct grammar and spelling, get a F*ing liberal arts student.
You check the button in the install process, Canoncial doesn't. With preinstalls it would be the OEM installing it for you, which makes the OEM a lawsuit target
Canonical licenses mp3 and H.264 for its OEM distributions:
Licensed Companies, Licensees - PC Applications
AVC/H.264 Licensees
Walmart.com had 212 flavors of the Win 7 laptop and 95 Win 7 desktops on sale this holiday season - and all sold with licensed mp3 audio and DVD video play out of the box.
You're comparing what's essentially a laptop with what's essentially a netbook..
The 'tablet' you have has more features than a normal laptop, TFA's tablet has less features than a normal netbook.
In short, "so"?
http://www.kno.com/ uses Ubuntu:
"The Kno system runs on an Ubuntu Linux (32 bit) operating system, and all Kno software is powered by the WebKit browser engine. As a result, the Kno supports standard web technologies such as JavaScript, HTML, and CSS."
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1916240&cid=34612834
http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1916240&cid=34647708
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1922942&cid=34665368
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1924664&cid=34669668
ROTFLMAO!
I wouldn't listen to "professor hairyfeet" guys, he's only an ITT Tech student.
I'd bet for a distro based on MeeGo (or MeeGo itself). In general, the conventional Linux distributions are still stuck in the desktop/laptop interface and that's clear if you look at the picture shown in TFA. I'll spend a couple days playing around with the Nokia MeeGo image for the N900 to see how it goes, but the screenshots look promising. That could be the future of Linux (non-Android) GUIs for mobile devices.
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