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Wireless GeForce Graphics Card Announced
arcticstoat writes "PC gamers who are sick of being constantly distracted by whirring fans could now have a helping hand from a new wireless graphics card. Galaxy sub-brand KFA2 has announced a graphics card with no display outputs. Instead, the KFA2 GTX 460 WHDI uses a wireless link to send the display output from your PC to your screen, whether that's a conventional monitor or the HD TV in your lounge. You just need to attach the bundled receiver to the back of your chosen screen and you're done. With a wireless keyboard and mouse, you could place your PC at the other end of the room, letting you crank up those fans without having to listen to the whirring next to you."
I don't see anything about encryption. Are you supposed to broadcast your donkey porn to the neighbor in the open?
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If noise is your only reason for doing this, just get a decent pair of in-ear or fully enclosed headphones.
which is totally what she said
No more liquid nitrogen i my room!
Buy noise cancelling foam boards and/or better fans.
Not meaning to be funny either.
Hell, if your fans are that loud when you are playing a game, you NEED new fans. (especially if you are wearing a headset!)
So the summary talks about annoying fan noise and how this card is the answer, but with the wireless keyboard and mouse that it suggests I could just put my PC at the other end of the room, wired to my TV or monitor, without an expensive and display-lag-inducing wireless graphics card. Don't get me wrong, the card probably has some benefits, but reducing the annoyance of GPU cooling fans is a bit of a stretch.
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What happens when EVERYONE gets one of these? A full speed 5ghz 802.11n link is already difficult to achieve in crowded/built up areas.
With slight overclocking an amplification no display is needed at all!
Strong enough radiowaves burn the image directly in the brain!
do NOT bundle the transport (wireless) WITH the card. really dumb.
the card breaks. now you have to buy another to get your wireless back again.
otoh, if the vendors were smart this would be card-neutral and simply take hdmi or dvi and make that a wireless peer-to-peer link. THAT way the standard interface (dvi) simply has to be a dvi port and nothing else. ALL cards can do this.
bundling is good for companies. bad for us.
I would avoid 'solutions' like this that link too many things. like all in one stereos - bad for consumer since you can't upgrade anything short of a forklift upgrade. discretes is the way to go - and same for computers, too.
Input lags of over 50ms, here we go!
And hike across two rooms to reset when it crashes? No thank you.
In all seriousness, this is pretty cool. In some applications this could be tremendously helpful- Small spaces with little room for hardware and less for cords, for example. All the same, though, I won't be using it on my gaming rig- I rather enjoy my GTS 250.
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If display can be detached from computers, then forget about tablets, notebooks, or even smartphones. You have "the box" somewhere in your house and from any place you can have alternate input and output devices to work with it, you want a tablet? something to work in a desk? Using your tv set? All can have the same computer behind, and you could use the best interface for what you need to do.
If that becomes portable or wearable, same could go for mobile computing, and you could interact with the IO device you have with you, be smartglasses, something of the size of a phone or a tablet, or even some kind of sixth sense technology
This baby is not for gamers or engineers. It's for marketing and sales. Remote screens at trade shows and in a show rooms pumping out messages while all the ugly boxes are tucked away in a room elsewhere. No un-slightly wires to trip over or to run. Funky little kiosks that float in the open air. That kind of thing.
Does it support multiple displays? That'd be a nice feature.
So now we just need one person to have a powerful enough video card to stream to the entire neighborhood so we can watch DVDs without buying them!
If you were a REAL hacker type you'd get one of those USB nerf turret thingies, and a Kinect, and write a program to scan for your cat's heat signature and blast it every time it comes nearby. (or maybe a $10 spygear motion alarm would be cheaper, but nearly as cool)
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...but I don't know any real gamers (at least on PC) that use wireless keyboards or mice. They're all good and well for playing facebook games but I wouldn't want to be using wireless peripherals in an online game of Call of Duty or anything that requires split second reactions.
does it slice and dice?
They're shooting themselves in the foot if gamers are their target market. We're just now developing wireless mice with latency that's acceptable for gamers, and wireless internet is still a no no. Considering how little data a mouse actually needs to send compared to video output at 120hz/120fps... What's the response time? Shooting at a target that was actually drawn 20ms ago and has since moved is not acceptable in the gaming world.
They transmit 1080p at 60Hz, ok. But what's the latency? I don't think it's instant. Combined with LCD latency, it might be bad. So, no thanks. As said above, not intended for gamers/engineers, and might not even for watching fast action movies.
Will it stop her whining too?
Is fan noise still a problem these days? Granted I haven't been keeping up with the latest tech but the 260 GTX I have makes very little noise. This product sounds like a solution for something that was a problem 6-7 years ago.
I think the possibilities of cutting the last wire go far beyond the inconvenience of loud fans.
I generally avoid wireless devices like the plague. I don't like dealing with interference, batteries, signal, random flaking out, latency, etc. For a little home theater machine maybe this would be useful... But we already have ways to make those silent or near silent.
Make sure you buy the Monster brand wireless, soon to come to a store near you with extra gold plating on your wireless signal to ensure the absolute fastest movement of your wireless signal across your living room!
So while you sit there and get lag from your wireless mouse, keyboard, & monitor the guy with the cheap stuff will just keep fragging away while you lag.
I'd much rather have a hard-line capable of carrying 16x PCIe, then just have a little box with cooling for the video card- plus that would free up the slot right under my video card....
This technology is not really for your average consumer. Tech geeks and the curious will check it out, but the real market is for the Financial Sector especially those doing business on the Exchanges around the world. Multiple displays broadcast from the command center directly to the floor will give some traders an edge.
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Just I wanted, more exposure to radiation! YAYAYAYAY!
Is for LCD glasses or similar stuff, so you can walk around the room with your desktop level power and more convenience than netbook/ipad.
How will this reduce fan noise when the fan is still in your computer.
Did i miss something here?!?
Years ago as a capstone project for college, myself and a few friends set up a media PC, web server, and PDA (Dell Axiom 3i) to allow us to use the PDA as a remote for the TV and Media PC.
It worked, and worked rather well IMO. But you can imagine the hassle and costs associated with setting up such a set up.
Using this technology, I could effectively strip it down to a single media PC. Sure, I'd lose the ability to set record schedules on my media PC from work, but I never really used that feature anyway ;)
Get a small LCD monitor (7-9" or so), put a touch screen over it, run that through a wireless mouse connection, put a lithium battery under it, shrink it up in some plastic and I could have a full media PC that I could use the mobile monitor for C&C and previews/commercial break channel flipping with out changing the main TV's output. Kinda like picture in picture only the in picture would be on your lap.
It would work. Not that I'll invest in it these days, but if I were a college student with a hankering for electronics and media systems again, it could be a fun project. And if you could get it to market for under $300 (mobile monitor and RF graphics card included) you might even be able to sell it.
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The first thing that came to mind was potential use with a laptop. You could switch from built-in video to this for 3D gaming and use your HDTV for the picture (being that 1080p is as large as almost all laptops ever get anyways).
Done correctly, you could manage to have a $400 budget laptop for normal use and when you want to play games, sit it on your coffee table, sync it up, and presto. No need to spend $1300 on an Alienware or similar rig.
Wireless=increased latency. There already is built in latency with flatscreens and if you use a wireless mouse or keyboard that's more latency. Who would want this for a gaming system? Latency is detrimental to gaming performance.
This solution bundles the graphics adaptor with the sending of screens.
Yes, that's wrong. But its wrong because it sends too much data. The WORST amount of data is the screen itself. However, the graphics card itself takes information and generates that screen. For example, texture mapping. Why send all that texture data? Instead, send it once!
The idea would be to send higher level graphics commands via wireless, and then generate the actual screens at the device. An external, wireless graphics card. Now, this model fits the older "obsolete" OpenGL better than the newer OpenGL, which may be its downside.
But, the model should be similar to the "X" protocol (on which OpenGL rides). Commands at this (transport) level to be sent to the device. The software vendor optimizes to this level, and the card vendor implements, either using local transport, network transport or wireless transport.
This fits well into the Unix GUI approach -- maybe someone wants to carry this further into a Windows(tm) DX10/11 analysis?
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Give me some sort of wireless set up for some basic satelite monitors, but an HD option doesn't seem very pratical seeing as I am running 3 monitors at 1900x1200 already.
As for noise level that is what water cooling and SSD drives are for. The loudest thing on my computer is my keyboard.
.. which is to find a solution WITHOUT disturbing the cat.
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"Galaxy sub-brand KFA2 has announced a graphics card with no display outputs . Instead, the KFA2 GTX 460 WHDI uses a wireless link to send the display output from your PC to your screen"
WAIT A MINUTE! First you say it doesn't have any display outputs, and then it sends the outputs it doesn't have? I'm confused!
And what good is a video card with no display outputs? Hmmm ...
Oh boy I can have the batteries die on my keyboard, mouse and now my wireless plug for my monitor! I can't wait for the to be the new excuse for people losing in their games online. Oh yes and for the fan noise it's still got a fan, and that makes noise, I like silence you can't get that with moving parts.
This is a Mac, what you have there is an embarrassment to your fellow computer users.
Bigger PVA LCD panels already introduce significant input lag to the point where its noticeable to the avid gamer, with a difference of only ~40ms to TN panels. This would add a very significant number to a system that is already very close to the breaking point. An above poster mentioned that this would be good for trade shows or marketing displays, which seems to be significantly better application. Marketing based on fan noise is pretty rediculous when water-cooled systems are already economical.
In my opinion, the killer app for this is connection to ceiling-mounted projectors. Not only is it a pain in the ass to find a long video cable to connect a computer to a ceiling mounted projector, you also end up with an unsightly cable running up your wall and across your ceiling. Now there's a reasonable solution for media PC's etc.
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Now when I use my mircowave I can kill not only the network connection but the display as well!
The fact that you can only fit three full 40Mhz channels in the unlicensed 5GHz space, and that the range of this stuff is optimally 30m, means that it will be completely useless for what you describe. There are existing wireless display technologies that are enormously more effective for that sort of thing.
Bandwidth and interference aside. 30m is pretty far. Could you post a link to the existing wireless display you speak of?
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When I built my current PC in 2007, I installed a Gigabyte nvidia 7600GT video card. It uses heat pipes and large heatsinks to passively cool the card. My comp sits on my desk and it's all but silent. I've recently begun looking into building a new PC, but trying to find a dual-output card with passive cooling is next to impossible, if you want anything mid-range or up.
And why are all the damn monitors widescreen? Widescreen sucks for PC use (portrait is generally a better form factor, so why go in the opposite direction? I suppose it's because manufacturers are geared up to make HDTV LCDs, but I would think businesses would prefer the 4x3 monitors. I'll need to replace my 1600x1200 native Samsung 204Bs eventually, but right now there is nothing worthwhile to replace them with.
They can whistle, though.
Any wifi thin client should do, since they don't rely on whole-frame video compression. It's a lot more optimal to send text *as* text (as many remote desktop solutions like X or NX do) than to send a video of the text. You'll get more than 30m of range (or rather, with a higher base range, given the same amount of interference, it'll go farther than WHDI), and you can have a lot more active clients than WHDI, which can only support three clients (40MHz channels in a 150MHz band) at a time.
Great info, but do you have a link. I'm a graphics and display geek with much prior experience reading specs.
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Link to what? NX? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NX_technology WiFi? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi Thin clients? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thin_client
You can toss together a solution for $200-300 per unit (not including server cost) by throwing a generic Linux distro with NX installed onto an embedded PC and be done with it. It's pretty trivial and common place stuff...
Yeah those work. Thanks.
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