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Scientists Invent World's First Anti-Laser

Velcroman1 writes "Two scientists at Yale University have built the laser's first doppelganger: the anti-laser. While a conventional laser emits a constant beam of light in one direction, the anti-laser simply does the opposite. It takes that same steady light stream and interacts with it in such a way that it absorbs and cancels out the light. And scientists hope the strange creation could help the fight against cancer. A. Douglas Stone, one of the two researchers behind the project, said he came up with the idea for a 'nega-laser' when working with equations for a random laser with his partner in crime, Hui Cao. 'I figured, if we just somehow illuminated the cavity, and replaced the gain medium with something that tends to absorb light, we could essentially reverse the process,' Stone said. Oh, that makes sense."

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  1. I want... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    an anti-laser pointer.

    1. Re:I want... by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      An anti-green-laser pointer would be nice. Presenters: why not just use a regular red laser pointer? Green ones always seem to be too bright.

    2. Re:I want... by grantek · · Score: 1

      The article says it's basically a module that absorbs light and converts it to heat, but if you had some kind of opto-electronic stuff in there, I guess it might end up being a useful receiver for fibre-optic communications?

    3. Re:I want... by TamCaP · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I am pretty sure current light sensing technology is doing just great when it comes to that.

      I on the other hand, wonder if it's possible to improve the device to work as an efficient energy "receptacle" / converter. Like a wireless power cable. You could then "beam" energy i.e. in space (where there is no atmosphere to kill all your photons) to your sattelite. One could also think about using fiberoptic cable instead of copper for energy transmission, but I don't see a real application for that (except maybe some exotic noise issues).
      Yeah, the invention doesn't have many obvious applications. But it doesn't mean scientists & engineers will not come up with one at some point.

    4. Re:I want... by BitterOak · · Score: 1

      An anti-green-laser pointer would be nice.

      Yes. This would make a perfect Christmas gift for airline pilots!

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    5. Re:I want... by Message · · Score: 1

      We always prefered green lasers because the red lasers often washed out on Plasma/LCDs

    6. Re:I want... by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      Is it maybe because you've been to too many presentations using green lasers?

    7. Re:I want... by SharpFang · · Score: 1

      Pointing it at an object causes people to stop paying attention to that object! Oh, the potential!

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    8. Re:I want... by AvitarX · · Score: 2

      It pave the way for a somebody eles' problem field.

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    9. Re:I want... by mysidia · · Score: 1

      One could also think about using fiberoptic cable instead of copper for energy transmission, but I don't see a real application for that (except maybe some exotic noise issues).

      I suppose the question is... what the losses would be due to conversions; and losses over the cable distance would be, compared to transmitting electrical current over the same distances?

      If it turned out to be more efficient, then one could imagine high powered transmission lines being replaced with lasers and anti-lasers and cable buried at each end :-)

      It would be more expensive, but that would solve the problem of weather anomalies destroying transmission lines. Which currently cannot be buried due to inefficiency / losses through soil.

      It would also eliminate electrocution risk. If someone accidentally cut into a transmission line, the situation could be signalled by the anti-laser end, causing its paired transmitter to reduce power near zero and identify the location of the break.

    10. Re:I want... by justinlee37 · · Score: 1

      I think it's due to color blindness.

    11. Re:I want... by plover · · Score: 1

      An anti-green-laser pointer would be nice.

      Yes. This would make a perfect Christmas gift for airline pilots!

      I think they should issue 5 kW YAG lasers to airline pilots. Far better than an anti-laser, it's an anti-laser-wielder laser.

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    12. Re:I want... by hvm2hvm · · Score: 1

      Am I missing something here? What's so special about a device that takes EM radiation and transforms it into heat? A black block of steel does the same thing.

      Now, if the device could transform it into electricity directly, it would be extremely useful for wireless energy transmissions.

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    13. Re:I want... by AmonTheMetalhead · · Score: 1

      Not just pilots, I've had a green laser pointer pointed on my windshield on the highway....

    14. Re:I want... by mysidia · · Score: 1

      Am I missing something here? What's so special about a device that takes EM radiation and
      transforms it into heat? A black block of steel does the same thing.

      They're calling it a coherent perfect absorber... presumably, because it somehow accomplishes the feet of absorbing all (or nearly all) the light.

      A black block of steel reflects some light. Some loss due to reflection instead of absorption. Which has some implications, at least, inside optical computer microchips, where reflected light could cause interference.

  2. Challenge for biologists: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now it's up to the biologists to create anti-sharks

    1. Re:Challenge for biologists: by OldIsCool · · Score: 2

      So we can have fricken anti-sharks with anti-lasers taped to their fricken heads?

    2. Re:Challenge for biologists: by kryliss · · Score: 1

      To their Anti-Heads.

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  3. Beam of darkness? by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 4, Funny

    It shoots a coherent beam of darkness!

    1. Re:Beam of darkness? by joeme1 · · Score: 1

      That would be the absolute coolest thing in the world. I've been a long time fan of the darksucker theory, to have an actual darksucker would be extremely fun. Lots of applications in a physics classroom.

    2. Re:Beam of darkness? by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      I was thinking it made a non-coherent, spherical light field. That would actually be useful.

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    3. Re:Beam of darkness? by dwarfsoft · · Score: 1

      Nope, when he turns them on they suck all the dark out of the room, except for the dark that is hiding behind large objects. It sucks it all up and transports it to the energy company where they stockpile all the dark for some nefarious purpose.

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    4. Re:Beam of darkness? by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      Ooh, my house is filled with Anti-Lasers!

      I wonder what an anti-Laserwolf would be?

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    5. Re:Beam of darkness? by fractoid · · Score: 1

      Apparently when I was a toddler I once asked mum to 'turn the dark on'. :)

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    6. Re:Beam of darkness? by irp · · Score: 3, Informative

      It shoots a coherent beam of darkness!

      In quantum optics when you need to silence the vacuum noise from the "dark" port of a beam splitter. You make a squeezed light source, point it at the dark port and decrease the power to just *below* laser threshold. It does not emit light, but it still squeezes the vacuum state along the path of the beam-without-light, i.e. a "coherent beam of darkness"...

      I've always found that phenomena slightly eerie... :-)

    7. Re:Beam of darkness? by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      ... what? o_O

  4. nega-laser by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    "nega-laser"

    I think the prefer vernacular is African-American-laser

    1. Re:nega-laser by 4phun · · Score: 1

      "nega-laser"

      I think the prefer vernacular is African-American-laser

      Laughing - that is an interesting politically correct name for this technology.

    2. Re:nega-laser by dzfoo · · Score: 1

      Since you're already maxed out, I'm going to scrap my moderator points and respond:

      Thanks for the best laugh on a dreary morning! You sir win the Intarwebz today.

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  5. Yes, Dr. Scott... by emurphy42 · · Score: 2

    ...an anti-laser capable of emitting a beam of pure anti-anti-matter.

    1. Re:Yes, Dr. Scott... by Gravatron · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure a device that took electricity and emitted a stream of matter would be damn interesting.

    2. Re:Yes, Dr. Scott... by russ1337 · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure a device that took electricity and emitted a stream of matter would be damn interesting.

      I expect it would look something like this:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdFuba8lPZo

    3. Re:Yes, Dr. Scott... by Bobb+Sledd · · Score: 1

      That is damn interesting.

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  6. Oh great. by towelie-ban · · Score: 5, Funny

    Now they'll create freaking anti-sharks to attach these to.

    1. Re:Oh great. by drpimp · · Score: 1

      more like seals with freakin' anti-lasers ... fine then back to the natural hierarchy

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    2. Re:Oh great. by $0.02 · · Score: 2

      You mean dolphins?

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    3. Re:Oh great. by SnarfQuest · · Score: 1

      Shouldn't you call them skrahs?

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  7. Is this as cool as it sounds? by Cheeba+Racer · · Score: 1

    Because it sounds like they just figured out how to turn off a laser...

    1. Re:Is this as cool as it sounds? by publiclurker · · Score: 1

      Sound more like they figured out how to shine it into a box full of dark stuff.

  8. Opposite? by domulys · · Score: 1

    It just sounds like they turned the laser off.

    1. Re:Opposite? by ocdscouter · · Score: 1

      Return to Sender?

  9. Re:or uh... by wjousts · · Score: 2

    Since this absorbs light rather than reflects it, I think the correct response is or you could just use anything that is opaque (e.g. a brick wall, a thick piece of cardboard, your cat).

  10. scientists? by bugi · · Score: 2

    I'm shocked. I would've assumed it was priests, or maybe economists.

    1. Re:scientists? by rsborg · · Score: 1

      I'm shocked. I would've assumed it was priests, or maybe economists.

      There's really no difference between the two.

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    2. Re:scientists? by amorsen · · Score: 2

      Sure there is: Most priests have doubts about their beliefs at least once.

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  11. Isn't it just Peruvian Instant Darkness Powder by kmdrtako · · Score: 1

    non sequitur Harry Potter reference

  12. OK - so I RTFA... by ScientiaPotentiaEst · · Score: 1

    ... yet I can't help thinking that it's akin to the classic black body. Light hits it and is absorbed. I assume the energy is re-emitted from said anti-laser in the form of heat or some-such.

    No doubt there's more to it than this. But TFA isn't clear.

    1. Re:OK - so I RTFA... by amRadioHed · · Score: 2

      But you didn't RTFC from the diagram, "In the anti-laser, incoming light waves are trapped in a cavity where they bounce back and forth until they are eventually absorbed. Their energy is dissipated as heat."

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    2. Re:OK - so I RTFA... by blind+biker · · Score: 1

      Yes, there's more to it than you think: the device in question is a coherent absorber (just as a laser would coherently emit electromagnetic radiations), so it's fundamentally different from a black body, which abides to Planck's law of blackbody radiation.

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    3. Re:OK - so I RTFA... by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 2

      The impression I get is that they have managed to achieve an ideal absorber for a specific frequency.

      That's what a classic black body is, but there is nothing in the real world that behaves this way.

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    4. Re:OK - so I RTFA... by IICV · · Score: 5, Informative

      All they really needed to say was that it's the time-reversed counterpart of a laser. Calling it an "anti-laser" makes it sound like it shoots out a beam of darkness or something like that (which could be cool, but physically impossible).

      Why this is neat is that, because it's the reverse of a laser, it'll absorb some frequencies almost perfectly while ignoring others. The reason why they said this would work for cancer, for instance, is that you could embed some of these dudes in the cancer (there's techniques for that, I have no idea how they work) and then bombard them with a laser frequency that normally passes harmlessly through humans. Areas without these reverse-lasers will be unaffected, but areas with them will get really hot, killing the cancer. We use similar techniques already (with I think gold, I'm not quite sure) in order to localize radiotherapy, but I believe that the radiation used in the current methods still kills a lot of normal cells on its own.

    5. Re:OK - so I RTFA... by jfengel · · Score: 1

      Heat... what? Infrared radiation? Molecular motion?

      I'm sure this is an important and interesting advance, but I found that description singularly uninformative.

    6. Re:OK - so I RTFA... by jfengel · · Score: 1

      What happens to other frequencies? Are they transmitted? Absorbed? Reflected?

      If they're absorbed, what's special about this frequency? Is the heat radiated from it in some other way than as a standard blackbody radiation?

    7. Re:OK - so I RTFA... by Colonel+Korn · · Score: 3, Insightful

      All they really needed to say was that it's the time-reversed counterpart of a laser. Calling it an "anti-laser" makes it sound like it shoots out a beam of darkness or something like that (which could be cool, but physically impossible).

      Why this is neat is that, because it's the reverse of a laser, it'll absorb some frequencies almost perfectly while ignoring others. The reason why they said this would work for cancer, for instance, is that you could embed some of these dudes in the cancer (there's techniques for that, I have no idea how they work) and then bombard them with a laser frequency that normally passes harmlessly through humans. Areas without these reverse-lasers will be unaffected, but areas with them will get really hot, killing the cancer. We use similar techniques already (with I think gold, I'm not quite sure) in order to localize radiotherapy, but I believe that the radiation used in the current methods still kills a lot of normal cells on its own.

      You win. Mods, please get the parent to +5 Informative. It's clearly the best post on the story.

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    8. Re:OK - so I RTFA... by PitaBred · · Score: 1

      A classic black body absorbs all frequencies. This is a very specific frequency absorption. No idea what it'd be useful for, but it's still a technically impressive capability that wasn't available before

    9. Re:OK - so I RTFA... by c0lo · · Score: 1

      A classic black body absorbs all frequencies. This is a very specific frequency absorption. No idea what it'd be useful for, but it's still a technically impressive capability that wasn't available before

      Like a ballpoint pen able to function in zero-g?

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    10. Re:OK - so I RTFA... by Dunbal · · Score: 1

      A classic black body absorbs all frequencies

      With the other minor technical detail that it doesn't exist. But when has reality ever stopped physicists? Give me a lever of infinite length and an immovable place to stand...

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    11. Re:OK - so I RTFA... by amRadioHed · · Score: 1

      Are you serious? It says heat. Yes infrared radiation is emitted. Yes there is more molecular motion. That's what heat does, do you really need the article to spell it out?

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    12. Re:OK - so I RTFA... by jfengel · · Score: 1

      Great, it absorbs photons and emits different photons. This is news?

    13. Re:OK - so I RTFA... by Dcnjoe60 · · Score: 1

      All energy is eventually dissipated as heat.

    14. Re:OK - so I RTFA... by Gilmoure · · Score: 1

      Or a crayon.

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    15. Re:OK - so I RTFA... by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 1

      Calling it an "anti-laser" makes it sound like it shoots out a beam of darkness or something like that (which could be cool, but physically impossible).

      Not quite impossible. Since a laser is coherent light, it should theoretically be possible to produce a beam that is phase-shifted so as to cancel out another laser of the same frequency. That wouldn't be a "beam of darkness" in the general sense, but it could null out the other laser. It would probably take a massive amount of real-time DSP computations to make it even partially work.

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    16. Re:OK - so I RTFA... by QuoteMstr · · Score: 1

      If you can design an antibody to selectively attach to cancer cells, can't you then use the body's normal immune mechanisms to destroy the cancer?

    17. Re:OK - so I RTFA... by pclminion · · Score: 1

      All they really needed to say was that it's the time-reversed counterpart of a laser. Calling it an "anti-laser" makes it sound like it shoots out a beam of darkness or something like that

      A time-reversed proton is an anti-proton. A time reversed electron is an anti-electron. This is just keeping with the pattern...

    18. Re:OK - so I RTFA... by nicomede · · Score: 1

      Reading TFA to get modded up informative sounds really like cheating to me. We are on Slashdot, for FSM's sake!

    19. Re:OK - so I RTFA... by dzfoo · · Score: 1

      Or infinite monkeys with typewriters.

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    20. Re:OK - so I RTFA... by Danh · · Score: 1

      If I read the original Science paper correctly this is nothing more than an etalon in front of an absorbing material (i.e. a plate of silicon, as they used in their experiment, in front of a black sheet of paper). Of couse it works as a selective absorber or "anti-laser", this is well known.

      I wonder if they wrote the Science paper just to show what you can publish using a lot of buzzwords...

    21. Re:OK - so I RTFA... by hesaigo999ca · · Score: 1

      TYVM, i appreciate having someone put it in laymen's terms, so that the rest of us non scientist folk can understand the impact, when you explained it this way, that the heat is what is important to killing the cancer, it made sense.

  13. Defensive uses? by gurps_npc · · Score: 1

    Can you install this near the cockpit of planes, making them immune to the dreaded blinding green laser attack? Or for that matter, make something immune to laser guided missiles?

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    1. Re:Defensive uses? by KingAlanI · · Score: 1

      Yeah, a weapon countermeasure was my first thought for application too...

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  14. Inverse tachyon pulse by thib_gc · · Score: 1

    It sounds just like an inverse tachyon pulse, really.

    1. Re:Inverse tachyon pulse by eriqk · · Score: 1

      Inverse tachyons? You mean particles that travel forward in time?

    2. Re:Inverse tachyon pulse by badkarmadayaccount · · Score: 1

      No - a pulse of a lack of tachyons.

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  15. Lasers by deathtopaulw · · Score: 1

    Lasers have always confused me, and maybe someone smarter than me can explain this. Why can't you just hold up a mirror, or create something even more reflective to make weapons grade lasers useless? Isn't it just light?

    1. Re:Lasers by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 1

      1) Dirt
      2) Being highly reflective like that makes you vulnerable to other less sophisticated and frequently more effective things than high-power lasers, like radar-guided interceptor missiles. We have not seen very many examples of lasers used as direct "destroy it" weaponry because it's actually pretty hard to destroy something at a distance with a laser. ICBMs are a good candidate because they are frequently in operating conditions close to the limits of the structural materials - add a little heat and it behaves as the "straw that broke the camel's back". However, a super-shiny ICBM becomes easier to hit with stuff like Aegis BMD.

      In this particular case, the development isn't really a defense against laser weapons - it appears to be a tuned perfect absorber with zero reflectivity.

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    2. Re:Lasers by Skidborg · · Score: 1

      But since 99% of the light is headed back at the guy who fired it at you, is that a problem?

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    3. Re:Lasers by c0lo · · Score: 1

      If you had a perfect reflector, you could. But perfect reflectors don't exist. Every mirror or mirror-like substance absorbs at least some of the energy of the reflected light - specifically, it's converted to heat. Even a fraction of the power of a weapons-grade laser converted to heat is a lot of heat, and melting a mirror even a tiny amount generally drops the reflectivity dramatically. End result - your mirror will reflect for a fraction of a second before it turns into slag.

      By contrast, this perfect absorber converts the entire energy of the weapon-grade laser into heat. The attacker would be thankful to you for mounting one on the target.

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    4. Re:Lasers by MasterPatricko · · Score: 1

      It would be pretty hard to aim a mirror to reflect a laser exactly back to where it came from. A corner cube is what you want. Depending on the reflectivity of the mirrors used, it would absorb some energy, but a significant portion of the energy would be reflected exactly back to where it came from - the perfect laser defense.

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    5. Re:Lasers by Dunbal · · Score: 1

      You can. However even the best mirror absorbs some light even when most of it is reflected. If the laser is powerful enough to heat the reflecting surface the heat itself stops it from being "perfectly smooth", meaning it reflects less and absorbs more heat, warping it more, etc until you have burned through the mirror's backing and into whatever it is you wanted to punch a hole through. I'm sure there are other ways to degrade a laser's performance, like using smoke or chaff, etc, which are probably much simpler than trying to maintain an extremely shiny, polished surface facing the laser at all times in this dirty, dusty world.

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    6. Re:Lasers by Sulphur · · Score: 1

      But since 99% of the light is headed back at the guy who fired it at you, is that a problem?

      Do you mean a corner reflector?

    7. Re:Lasers by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      That's a problem? Seems like a selling feature to me.

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  16. I have anti-laser shields at home right now! by Drakkenmensch · · Score: 1

    I call them "walls"

  17. Re:Polarity by uglyduckling · · Score: 2

    I think it's more complicated than that. You'd definitely need at least a tachyon burst.

  18. Its called a D.A.S.A.R. by scharkalvin · · Score: 3, Funny

    That's "Darkness Amplification by Stimulated Absorbance of Radiation"

  19. Media by uigrad_2000 · · Score: 1

    Scientist: We have an amazing toy! It does weird stuff, but nothing useful. In fact it's so weird, we don't even know what's happening. Who knows, once we figure it out, we might find that it is similar to radiation therapy used today to combat cancer.

    Reporter: The scientists believe that someday it could be used in our fight against cancer

    Editor: hmm... it's not really that big of a story. The only thing that makes it interesting enough to print is the bit about cancer.

    Final printed version: It CURES cancer!

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    1. Re:Media by jpmorgan · · Score: 1

      That's how academic funding works. If it doesn't kill people or cure cancer, you're basically begging on the street.

    2. Re:Media by cstepan · · Score: 1
      Gah. Even worse, the article quotes the physicist talking out his ass about cancer therapy:

      “Already, radiation for cancer does something like this but uses a different principal. And it can only shrink tumors near the surface of the skin. But in our case, CPAs may be able to reach a bit deeper.”

      Ummmm...no. Not even close. Radiation therapy can "shrink tumors" anywhere in the body, not just near the surface of the skin. Unless he thinks the prostate is near the skin surface. I don't know how much "deeper" he plans on going.

    3. Re:Media by Bengie · · Score: 1

      With that logic, killing cancer patients is good money

    4. Re:Media by Dunbal · · Score: 1

      Someone tell that guy about the gamma-knife...

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    5. Re:Media by Bigjeff5 · · Score: 1

      I don't know if you realize this, but the prostate is extremely easy, if a bit uncomfortable, to access. A lot easier than, say, your pancreas.

      Seriously, the doctor checks it with a finger, do you really think it's not near an accessible surface?

      Also, this sounds like it could be much, much more targeted, and therefore safer for the patient, than current techniques.

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    6. Re:Media by drkim · · Score: 1

      Yes, scientists trot out, "This could cure cancer..." the way politicians trot out, "Support our troops..." the way legislators trot out, "Think of the children..."

    7. Re:Media by Sulphur · · Score: 1

      Gah. Even worse, the article quotes the physicist talking out his ass about cancer therapy:

      “Already, radiation for cancer does something like this but uses a different principal. And it can only shrink tumors near the surface of the skin. But in our case, CPAs may be able to reach a bit deeper.”

      Ummmm...no. Not even close. Radiation therapy can "shrink tumors" anywhere in the body, not just near the surface of the skin. Unless he thinks the prostate is near the skin surface. I don't know how much "deeper" he plans on going.

      The principal is a Rad Onc then?

    8. Re:Media by cstepan · · Score: 1

      I don't know if you realize this, but the prostate is extremely easy, if a bit uncomfortable, to access. A lot easier than, say, your pancreas.

      Seriously, the doctor checks it with a finger, do you really think it's not near an accessible surface?

      Also, this sounds like it could be much, much more targeted, and therefore safer for the patient, than current techniques.

      Yes, the prostate is easy to access from the rectum, but that does not make it a good idea to shove a linear accelerator up a guy's ass. Apart from the discoftort caused by the insertion, you'd also burn a large hole in his rectum and cause your patient to need a colostomy bag for the rest of his life. Good work!

    9. Re:Media by Geminii · · Score: 1

      I see I shall have to invent Cancer-Toggling Bullets. Shoot a cancer patient, they live. Shoot anyone else, they get cancer...

    10. Re:Media by badkarmadayaccount · · Score: 1

      Good idea - no, valid excuse - yes.

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  20. "Doppelganger"? by Artifice_Eternity · · Score: 3, Informative

    Two scientists at Yale University have built the laser's first doppelganger: the anti-laser.

    I do not think this word means what you think it means.

    1. Re:"Doppelganger"? by ColdWetDog · · Score: 4, Funny

      I do not think this word means what you think it means.

      That's OK, the entire article doesn't mean what the reporter thought it meant.

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    2. Re:"Doppelganger"? by insertwackynamehere · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Um "A doppelgänger (pronounced [dplg] ( listen)) is a tangible double of a living person in fiction, folklore, and popular culture that typically represents evil. In the vernacular, the word doppelgänger has come to refer (as in German "doppelt(e)") to any double or look-alike of a person." from your link right there it clearly is being used in the "evil twin" sense

    3. Re:"Doppelganger"? by HiThere · · Score: 1

      I a way it does. In traditional usage a doppelganger was not only identical to you, but if you met your doppelganger, you would both die.

      It's a bit of a stretch, but you could say that the light of the laser is "killed" by meeting it's doppelganger, i.e., the opposite of the conditions that gave it birth. (Mind you, I agree that it's quite a stretch.)

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  21. Mirror? by prodigyx · · Score: 1

    I invented an anti-laser too. I call it a mirror. And it has 101 other uses!

    1. Re:Mirror? by Bigjeff5 · · Score: 1

      Or you could read the article before making yourself look like an idiot, instead.

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  22. Now Just integrate that into airplanes.... by L473ncy · · Score: 1

    If we could put one of those on an airplane and rig up a system that could target people lasering aircraft, pilots wouldn't have to worry about being "lased" while they're on final approach. It's a serious problem and as a private pilot I have no sympathy for people who lase aircraft, especially during final approach when you're going "low and slow" or when you're doing your base/final approach.

    1. Re:Now Just integrate that into airplanes.... by Jakester2K · · Score: 1

      I read in a novel about a system that could detect an incoming mortar round, determine its point of origin, and fire a round aimed at that point, within seconds - hopefully hitting it before the mortar team cleared out.

      Dunno if it exists in real life.

      Wouldn't it be cool if the same concept could be applied to flight-decks, deflecting the beam away from the pilot and causing it to blind the dipsh!ts who lased?

  23. Great... by jam244 · · Score: 1

    Now we have to invent anti-sharks!

  24. Doppelganger? by ChasmCoder · · Score: 1

    I thought a doppelganger was a "Twin" or as Dictionary.com says "–noun a ghostly double or counterpart of a living person." Wouldn't this be more like the antithesis of a laser? Just throwing that out there.

    1. Re:Doppelganger? by avandesande · · Score: 1

      Anything goes when reporting on science.

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    2. Re:Doppelganger? by insertwackynamehere · · Score: 1

      I think they were going for the evil twin angle which makes some sense (a doppelganger can be a reference to an evil twin)

    3. Re:Doppelganger? by ChasmCoder · · Score: 1

      Ok, that would make more sense if interpreted that way. I guess I am just not up on all the definitions :D Thanks!

    4. Re:Doppelganger? by HiThere · · Score: 1

      I don't care what Dictionary.com say, the only ghostly thing about it is that if you met it you would both drop dead. Others couldn't tell you apart, not by vision, not by touch. I don't know if the legends say anything about smell or taste. But I think it's also supposed to speak with your voice.

      Some people must have really thought identical twins were scarey.

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  25. A laser receiver, not an anti-laser. by Fieryphoenix · · Score: 2

    An anti-laser would emit light in every direction except for a tightly focused beam.

    1. Re:A laser receiver, not an anti-laser. by pclminion · · Score: 1

      And an anti-proton is a proton which exists everywhere but one particular point. Get real. The term "anti" has no such specific meaning.

  26. Re:Cancer? by IMightB · · Score: 1

    translate as "We're looking for funding.".

  27. Re:or uh... by atrain728 · · Score: 1

    I can't speak for brick walls or pieces of cardboard, but cats tend to catch fire when lasers are shined on them.

  28. Re:Cancer? Really? by md65536 · · Score: 2

    I hope a diamond-encrusted gold bust of my magnificently pale ass will help to fight cancer.

    A bust of your ass?

    bust
    n.
    1. A sculpture representing a person's head, shoulders, and upper chest.

    What does your face look like?

    Do you have someone busting your ass right now?

  29. I've got it! by Brad1138 · · Score: 1

    1) Anti-laser

    2) ?

    3) Profit!

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    1. Re:I've got it! by c0lo · · Score: 1

      1) Anti-laser
      2) Cancer
      3) ?
      4) Extra research budget!

      FTFY

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  30. Re:prior art by adonoman · · Score: 1

    If you shine a laser on a matte-black painted surface, can you see the dot where the light hits? If so, then it's not absorbing all the light - just a portion of it.

  31. to be used in optical computers? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    BBC article on the same subject talks only about using in optical computers.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12453893

    1. Re:to be used in optical computers? by Michael+Woodhams · · Score: 1

      Thank you - that is much more informative than the fluff-piece pointed to by the summary.

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  32. Me too... by mangu · · Score: 2

    I want a device that I can point to a screen and make the slides disappear

  33. Fox News? by meustrus · · Score: 2

    Why are we getting ours news from Fox? For every concrete nit-picky criticism I can make about the article (improper use of the word "doppelganger", the strangely "compressed" quotation at the end) there are some serious conceptual issues with the article as well. I'm not convinced the author understands half of what's going on. I've gotten the distant impression from the interviews that this is a device that takes in a laser light and dissipates the light into heat, but the article seems to be implying any number of things from an EMP-like device that cancels out lasers to a laser shield. There was no adequate explanation of how the device could be used for cancer treatment. Finally, and the one thing that gives the article that special Fox News touch, is the subtle but definitely present underlying tone of "This technology will be the death of us all, because science is really complicated, I don't understand it, and I don't like things I don't understand."

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    1. Re:Fox News? by IICV · · Score: 5, Informative

      The article is absolute shit, but if you ignore everything the journalist wrote and just read what the physicist said you can get an idea of how this works.

      Basically, it's the reverse of a laser; the physicist meant "anti-laser" as in "anti-matter" (because if you reverse the flow of time, anti-matter looks like regular matter).

      Normal lasers take power in and emit light at a specific frequency; this thing takes light in at a specific frequency and emits power. In other words, if you take a video of a laser and play it backwards, that's this thing.

    2. Re:Fox News? by sysrammer · · Score: 2

      I'm not a fan of Fox, and I see some of your criticisms, but don't think it's that big of a deal.

      Doing a speed read of tfa, I don't get any undertone about "death of us all". Not being interested in the techie aspects of this, I found that I got the gist of it adequately.

      sr

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    3. Re:Fox News? by noidentity · · Score: 1

      In other words, this is like shining a laser at a piece of non-reflective black material. I can't even begin to imagine all the uses this will have!

    4. Re:Fox News? by IICV · · Score: 1

      In other words, this is like shining a laser at a piece of non-reflective black material. I can't even begin to imagine all the uses this will have!

      Well yes - if that piece of non-reflective black material only absorbed that specific laser, and very little else. So for instance, if you had layers of material, and only wanted to deposit power on one of them, you would tune your laser to the frequency the reverse lasers on the layer you want to single out and fire.

    5. Re:Fox News? by Alsee · · Score: 1

      if you take a video of a laser and play it backward

      Little known fact: Lasers are tools of the Devil. They generate hidden satanic images that can only be seen when you play the video backwards.

      -

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    6. Re:Fox News? by Confusador · · Score: 1

      I get the idea of how it works, but the article is so light on detail as to be useless. How is this different from typical photovoltaics?

    7. Re:Fox News? by purpledinoz · · Score: 1

      According to this BBC article, the anti-laser absorbs a specific frequency and turns it into heat.

    8. Re:Fox News? by michelcolman · · Score: 1

      So that's what the anti-laser is for!

    9. Re:Fox News? by MMiguel78 · · Score: 1

      Does it mean that we can have a wireless power transmission system based on this?

  34. Saw this in Nature - useless. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I saw this in Nature when it first was published. It's completely useless. Basically what they are suggesting is putting weak absorber inside a high-Q cavity. The result? High absorption at the fabrey-perot modes. Surprise, surprise.

    Guess what - absorbing light isn't particularly difficult. This is probably the most overblown waste of memory I have every read.

    1. Re:Saw this in Nature - useless. by Bigjeff5 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Guess what - absorbing light isn't particularly difficult.

      Guess what, absorbing light perfectly is.

      Dumbass.

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  35. Re:Polarity by mug+funky · · Score: 1

    this could be an important safety measure to prevent crossing of streams...

  36. And sharks everywhere... by macraig · · Score: 1

    ... just heaved a huge sigh of relief.

  37. Re:or uh... by wjousts · · Score: 1

    Depends on the power of the laser. Besides, they've still blocked the laser for at least some period of time.

  38. cool story bro by RockGrumbler · · Score: 1

    "According to Stone and other physicists, the creation of the anti-laser -- the eggheads refer to it as a coherent perfect absorber (CPA) -- has been one of the defining technological innovations of the past century. So could this anti-laser have just as much impact on society’s future?"

    Considering the source, that eggheads comment comes off as pejorative. Cool editorializing bro.

  39. Re:Maybe... by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

    They can use it to zap the anti-news slashdot keeps posting.

    Ah, so I'm NOT the only one who noticed that this article linked to a Fox News story.

    Anti-news, indeed. Or, to use the terminology from this story, "nega-news".

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  40. Nonsense, this is just interference by ScottyB · · Score: 1

    This is just constructive or destructive interference of two beams of light, no different than a resonant-cavity photodiode, which has existed for 20 years. Lasing, if you recall, is stimulated emission, represented by one of Einstein's coefficients. The opposite physical process, which is the opposite Einstein coefficient, is absorption, which is always stimulated (there's no such thing as spontaneous absorption). We've long known about "anti-lasing"--it's called absorption.

    Nothing to see here, move along.

  41. Re:or uh... by Dunbal · · Score: 1

    but cats tend to catch fire when lasers are shined on them.

    So that just means you need more cats.

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  42. I want an anti-laser pointer! by StefanJ · · Score: 1

    I'm TOTALLY going to $&*# with the cat's head!

  43. Re:prior art by Dcnjoe60 · · Score: 1, Informative

    Actually, the OP is correct. the matte black paint does absorb all of the light. If you look at the other side of what ever it is painted on, you no longer see the laser light. It doesn't even have to be matte black paint. It can be any color paint you want.

    Proof of concept: Take a piece of poster board and paint it whatever opaque color you want. Place a light meter on the unpainted side. Shine a laser on the painted side and record the change in light as detected by the meter. If there isn't any, then the painted poster board absorbed all of the laser light.

    When I used to do black and white photography, I used to use nega-light all the time when loading film into cartridges. The difference was that instead of black poster board, I used a black cloth sack. It effectively absorbed all of the visible light that hit it. It was much more impressive than only being able to absorb one specific wavelength of light at a time.

  44. One joke still missing from thread by Jay+L · · Score: 1

    While a conventional laser emits a constant beam of light in one direction, the anti-laser simply does the opposite. It takes that same steady light stream

    and emits it in the other direction.

  45. We are the borg. Resistance futile. by bigsexyjoe · · Score: 1

    You will be assimilated.

    Can this technology be adapted as a defense used by a cyborg alien race, by any chance?

  46. Well, it is National Mental Health Month... by Dcnjoe60 · · Score: 1

    To create a laser, you need to excite the atoms in the medium. So with an anti-laser, does that mean the atoms are depressed? Maybe they need a little atomic prozaic.

  47. I don't believe it by Walkingshark · · Score: 1

    Holy shit, did he just invert the polarity?

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  48. Probably because, as is often the case by unassimilatible · · Score: 2

    Why are we getting ours news from Fox?

    Fox News reported something the mainstream media didn't.

    You anti-Foxers have this infinite loop problem:

    1) Fox News reports something no other source does;
    2) Libs yell "LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU FOX IS BIASED!" and remain ignorant of the story;
    3) Rinse and repeat.

    I can name numerous stories the MSM ignores, and only Fox reports, but you wouldn't want to hear about it because Fox reported it!

    And your whole anti-science thing by Fox viewers is just BS generalization. Sure, there are some creationists out there who would naturally gravitate there. But I am intellectually curious enough to read /. and lots of other technews sites. Statistics is also science, so don't generalize.

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    1. Re:Probably because, as is often the case by sysrammer · · Score: 1

      A quick google shows Reuters picked it up, Popular Science, and the BBC.

      Of course Fox is biased...just like any other media source. The key, for both sides, is to filter reports from the different sources appropriately, and the problem is to insure that the filter doesn't remove too much or color the information too much.

      sr

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    2. Re:Probably because, as is often the case by meustrus · · Score: 1

      A quick google shows Reuters picked it up, Popular Science, and the BBC.

      @unassimilatable: This. Also, I don't remember saying anything about Fox viewers; I was talking about Fox reporters. I definitely got the impression from the article that the reporter didn't understand what the technology was actually doing, and felt that it was probably dangerous in an evil-Star-Trek-alien-technology sort of way.

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  49. Replacement for electrical power xmission lines by American+Patent+Guy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If these guys have come up with something that will scale up to megawatt powers, this could spell the end of overhead power lines. It could power anything line-of-sight, including satellites. It could also transmit solar power harvested from space to the earth. Laser light can be focused tightly onto a target, unlike microwaves or radio-based radiation. This could be very efficient...

    1. Re:Replacement for electrical power xmission lines by Xarius · · Score: 1

      Would we be able to see these power lines or easily know where they are? I don't know much about the technology but it seems like a bird, person, aircraft or anything getting in the way of these wouldn't fare too well? And wouldn't rain cause trouble?

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  50. Re:prior art by adonoman · · Score: 2

    Reflection is not absorption. A piece of high-gloss tin-foil doesn't let any light through either, but absorbs very little. A material that completely absorbed all the light hitting it would always look completely black - you wouldn't be able to discern any texture. This anti-laser would be able to admit a laser, without letting any light back out.

  51. Metropolis shall bow to my Nega-Laser by lennier · · Score: 1

    came up with the idea for a "nega-laser" when working with equations for a random laser with his partner in crime

    Wow, some people are really taking their DC Universe Online character builds seriously. Can I join their guild?

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  52. Prior art by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    most technologies build on prior discovery; Years ago a non-coherent version was descrbed in JIR
    http://www.artofhacking.com/IET/NEWTECH/live/aoh_darkbulb.htm

  53. Amateurs! by Saberwind · · Score: 1

    Everyone knows that to make an anti-laser, you just have to switch the polarity!

  54. So, basically by Grimnir512 · · Score: 1

    We now have flash-darks for when it's light?

    1. Re:So, basically by dzfoo · · Score: 1

      Using special Dark Emitting Diodes (D.E.D.).

              -dZ.

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  55. Obligatory: by Palpatine_li · · Score: 1

    Scientist: Fuck you! Reporter: Scientist rapes journalist. (from SMBC)

  56. re: anti-laser by Fuji+Kitakyusho · · Score: 1

    Sooo... lightsaber anyone?

  57. Dark Sucker February Fools? by peterofoz · · Score: 1
    Could this be a leaked SlashDot April Fools article?

    Oh, wait.

    You mean its a real Dark Sucker?

    I've heard about that in a campfire skit. Isn't that why burnt stuff turns black, because the light gets out?

  58. Wait, what? by ryzvonusef · · Score: 3, Funny

    *DO* look at the anti-laser with the damaged eye???

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  59. Anti-Holograms? by kike · · Score: 1

    I wonder what implications this discovery will have in holographic technology. Could there be such thing as an anti-hologram?

    1. Re:Anti-Holograms? by LanMan04 · · Score: 1

      It's called paper!

      *rimshot*

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  60. Original article by Diffraction · · Score: 1

    Since the provided Fox News link is useless, here is the link to the original Science paper published today by the researchers. Requires paid access, if you don't have that, try PhysicsWorld.

    Basically, it is a time-reversed laser, so it absorbs coherent light.

  61. Re:Polarity by rastos1 · · Score: 2

    I think it's more complicated than that. You'd definitely need at least a tachyon burst.

    What a great item to put in the pool of my BOFH responses ;-) Thanks.

  62. Finally! by whatispseudocode · · Score: 1

    We will finally know the Speed of Dark!

  63. Re: anti-laser by Akima · · Score: 1

    That was my first thought too :P

  64. Re:Cure cancer? by DirkDaring · · Score: 1

    The article didn't mention a thing about curing cancer. It even specifically stated it could help in the treatment of it. Reading ftw.