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Linus Goes Hollywood At Pre-Oscars Party

alphadogg writes "For those who feel like Linux and open source have been slighted by Tinseltown in the face of its embrace of Facebook and The Social Network, you'll be heartened to know that the Father of Linux, Linux Torvalds, and his wife Tove were among the beautiful people at Saturday's pre-Oscars Night Before Party in Beverly Hills. Torvalds blogged about the Oscars party experience Monday, recounting a series of awkward encounters with movie stars."

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  1. Linux by amicusNYCL · · Score: 5, Funny

    the Father of Linux, Linux Torvalds

    Ahh, good old Linux Torvalds. I wonder if he brought his son Android, Andy for short.

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    1. Re:Linux by c0d3g33k · · Score: 1

      Seriously.

      alphadogg - you suck.*

    2. Re:Linux by microbee · · Score: 1

      That's a son after a fork.

    3. Re:Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Robin Williams would tell you that the shortened form of "Android" is "Andrew".

    4. Re:Linux by peragrin · · Score: 1

      shh!! that fork is Tove's little secret.

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    5. Re:Linux by Locke2005 · · Score: 0

      Laugh if you will, but I constantly have to remind both my wife and my sister-in-law that the "r" in "fork" is NOT silent... and yes, it is a little unnerving when your sister-in-law asks you, "Would you like a fok?"!

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    6. Re:Linux by corbettw · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      it is a little unnerving when your sister-in-law asks you, "Would you like a fok?"!

      Why? Is she fat? She sounds fat, with her obsession with tableware.

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    7. Re:Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Though someone got it right in the title, just not bothering to edit the body text.

    8. Re:Linux by Locke2005 · · Score: 2

      Uh, no. My wife is quite attractive; people used to tell her all the time that she should be a model, and she even had an offer to go to work for a strip club (she declined). My sister in law is 7 years younger and even more attractive than my wife, and has noticeably larger breasts than my wife's 36-D's. She also dresses quite provocatively, and in many ways in nicer to me and more compatible with me than my wife, you has the exact opposite personality as I do. In short, it's unnerving because "foking" her is something that has crossed my mind...

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    9. Re:Linux by Shikaku · · Score: 1

      Or maybe... it's just her accent. There's a joke:

      One day, a gal from Tennessee was serving a guy New York, and she sat him down. The ordeal was normal, he ordered the food and got it, but the girl forgot to bring silverware. So the New Yorker exclaims "Excuse me, can I get a fouk 'n spoon?"
      The gal shouts in response that it is very impolite to swear, and the New Yorker responds, "Miss, I just want a fouk and a spoon!"

    10. Re:Linux by Raenex · · Score: 1

      Who sucks more, the person who wrote it, or that fucking retard cmdrtaco for not taking the time to read and/or edit the post before submission?

      Give him a break. I'm sure he's just a n00b editor.

    11. Re:Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      a /.er with a hot wife? Youtube or it never happened

    12. Re:Linux by Locke2005 · · Score: 1

      Naked or fully clothed?

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    13. Re:Linux by tqk · · Score: 1

      Get the fok outa here! :-)

      And "Linux Torvalds" is a beautiful name.

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    14. Re:Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you ever think leaving the "r" out was intentional? At least on some occasions? Maybe you're wife and sister-in-law are trying to tell you something. Well, maybe you're sister-in-law is. Hehe!

    15. Re:Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      cmdrtaco for not taking the time to read and/or edit the post before submission

      I think CmdrTaco and company should just stop calling themselves editors. All they do is resubmit, there is no editing (at least, not until a significant majority in the comments calls them out).

      On the subject of editing, it's spelled "deity".

    16. Re:Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "My sister in law is 7 years younger and even more attractive than my wife, "

      Oh, I'll wait for you when you come home.
      Your wife.

    17. Re:Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      because "foking" her is something that has crossed my mind...

      And you thought it appropriate to mention that on /. ? Oh wait, if they're that attractive neither of them will be nerds browsing here. Okay, go ahead.

    18. Re:Linux by Noughmad · · Score: 1

      Well, you must consider that she's the uglier sister.

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    19. Re:Linux by corbettw · · Score: 1

      Bottom line, flirting should never be unnerving, even if it's with someone you want to, er, fork and who is forbidden fruit for one reason or another. Just relax and go with it (but don't follow through with your sister-in-law, that has zero potential to end well no matter what happens).

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    20. Re:Linux by jefe7777 · · Score: 1

      naked. with hot grits. thank you.

    21. Re:Linux by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Michael James: Did you find a job?
      Victor Skakapopulis: Yeah, I got something at the striptease. I help the girls dress and undress.
      Michael James: Nice job.
      Victor Skakapopulis: Twenty francs a week.
      Michael James: Not very much.
      Victor Skakapopulis: It's all I can afford.

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    22. Re:Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds pretty cash bro.

  2. "Linux" Torvalds? by Obispus · · Score: 1

    Good lord...

    1. Re:"Linux" Torvalds? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      You misspelled his name:
      GNU/Linux Trovalds

    2. Re:"Linux" Torvalds? by Locke2005 · · Score: 2

      Uh, that should be "GNU/Linux Torvalds. Please turn in your geek card on the way out...

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    3. Re:"Linux" Torvalds? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Actually, suffering from dyslexia is +1 geek cred.

    4. Re:"Linux" Torvalds? by GNUALMAFUERTE · · Score: 2

      Writing it as anything but dysxelia is -1 too.

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    5. Re:"Linux" Torvalds? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uh, that should be GNU/Linus GNU/Torvalds.

    6. Re:"Linux" Torvalds? by tqk · · Score: 1

      Uh, that should be "GNU/Linux Torvalds.

      Fsck, this is as funny as hell! Sorry Linus. You're now memed.

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    7. Re:"Linux" Torvalds? by tqk · · Score: 1

      Actually, suffering from dyslexia is +1 geek cred.

      Aww, you're just trying to escape typo nazis (like me). Dyslexia is just a cry in the dark. :-)

      Compilers don't let bad code through. Why should our text editors?

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    8. Re:"Linux" Torvalds? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "GNU/Linux Torvalds

      Forget anything, dear boy?
      Just in case, maybe this will help you see the error of your ways.

      (GNU/Linux Torvalds

    9. Re:"Linux" Torvalds? by tqk · · Score: 1

      Writing it as anything but dysxelia is -1 too.

      C|K>k, thanks. Ick.

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    10. Re:"Linux" Torvalds? by e4g4 · · Score: 1

      Failure to ctrl-t the transposition typo is -1, so it's even.

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  3. misleading summary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    He mentions asking people "Who are you?" and 'recounts' (mentions) only two specific encounters.

    Not at all the titillating and medium-long read that the summary promises.

  4. Not Hollywood's Fault by Petersko · · Score: 4, Funny

    "For those who feel like Linux and open source have been slighted by Tinseltown in the face of its embrace of Facebook and The Social Network"

    Well stop sending scripts in EMACS and insisting that Hollywood attach them to the end credits. Pilots in theora don't help either.

    1. Re:Not Hollywood's Fault by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 2

      Actually, Hollywood is just an Emacs mode, which uses Eliza as a back-end to generate scripts.

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    2. Re:Not Hollywood's Fault by greed · · Score: 3, Funny

      I see. Is it because of your mother that you say, "Hollywood is just an Emacs mode"?

    3. Re:Not Hollywood's Fault by darthdavid · · Score: 1

      Oh... say, " Hollywood is just an Emacs mode"?

    4. Re:Not Hollywood's Fault by tool462 · · Score: 5, Funny

      I implemented my script as a lazy-evaluated list. You can seed it with starting values like "Once upon a time" or "It was a dark and stormy night" or even "I'm sorry Mr. Pizza Man, I ran out of money. Is there any other way me and my 20 lesbian sorority sisters can pay for that Italian Sausage?"

      It'll keep giving you new lines based on the ones before it. The only boundary condition I put on the list length was the eventual heat death of the universe (likelihood of being eating by a grue = 1)

      It got its trial run on the TV show Lost. The producers would just keep requesting lines until they filled their time slot. Then they'd just cut to black and play an ominous screeching violin sound at the end of each episode and call it "suspense." It had a couple bugs though where it would get stuck in these self-consistent story loops that made it seem like there was some deeper meaning. We'd have to go in and tweak something every now and then just to get it to move on. The most embarrassing error was where it would dump out 4 8 15 16 23 42 repeatedly which was just some garbage in memory after reading an unterminated string.

    5. Re:Not Hollywood's Fault by Capt.DrumkenBum · · Score: 1

      I think if they really did use Eliza to generate scripts, the scripts generated might be a little more original.

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    6. Re:Not Hollywood's Fault by game+kid · · Score: 1

      "I'm sorry Mr. Pizza Man, I ran out of money. Is there any other way me and my 20 lesbian sorority sisters can pay for that Italian Sausage?"

      Now that, I would pay extra on every visit to see in 3D.

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    7. Re:Not Hollywood's Fault by Sulphur · · Score: 1

      I think if they really did use Eliza to generate scripts, the scripts generated might be a little more original.

      How long has originality concerned you?

  5. I Can Identify by hduff · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I've met a few famous people and, unless they spend a lot of time being famous for just being themselves, they really don't look or act a lot like the characters they play and are famous for. Take them out of context and you'll hesitate before calling them by name.

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    1. Re:I Can Identify by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 2

      I figured this one out shortly after watching Eddie Murphy's stand up when I was a teenager. When I was younger, I saw Murphy in various Disney/kids movies...then I heard the things he said in his "adult" comedy and figured out what "acting" meant.

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    2. Re:I Can Identify by CorSci81 · · Score: 1

      I live in Hollywood and have this happen to me a lot. I've seen a handful of celebrities over the years I recognized and probably dozens more have passed me on the sidewalk without even registering as "someone". It took me about 5 minutes to figure out Chris O'Donnell was in line in front of me once and I still had Google after the fact to be sure since I was too timid to just ask while he was standing there instead of just looking awkward.

    3. Re:I Can Identify by Obfuscant · · Score: 1
      Who is Chris O'Donnell?

      Seriously, isn't "Hollywood" one of the most ridiculous phenomena on the planet? What other trade has half a dozen different (inter-)nationally broadcast "awards" ceremonies where everyone gives everyone else trophies just for doing their job?

      I'm including the music industry in that set, since they are nothing more than entertainment, too.

      Just imagine how much benefit there would be if the money and time spent on the Oscars and the Tonys and the whatever-it-is was spent on something important and meaningful to the world as a whole.

    4. Re:I Can Identify by CorSci81 · · Score: 1

      Who is Chris O'Donnell?

      Apparently his career resurfaced on one of those many generic network TV crime drama shows, but I recognized him from the dreadful Batman & Robin movie that came out about a decade ago that I wish I could forget.

      Seriously, isn't "Hollywood" one of the most ridiculous phenomena on the planet?

      It is exceedingly ridiculous. Fortunately Hollywood the neighborhood of Los Angeles isn't very much like "Hollywood" the film industry. I wish someone would explain that to all of the tourists though.

    5. Re:I Can Identify by boxwood · · Score: 1

      The Awards shows are part of marketing the movies. If a movie wins an Oscar then it can be re-released and more people will go see it because it won an oscar. The movie studios spend a good deal of money lobbying members of the academy to vote for their movie to get an oscar so they can make this extra money. This is why they hated it when Return of the King won so many oscars because everyone had already seen it, whereas if a lesser known movie won those oscars it would mean a lot more money for that studio. But they sort of had to give a bunch of oscars to Lord of the Rings since New Line Cinema bet their studio to make it, ie. if LOTR flopped New Line would have gone bankrupt.

      The awards ceremonies are just a part of marketing movies. And it works because a lot of people like to see the celebrities all dressed up (who are you wearing?) and so it gives some attention to some movies that the people who idolize the celebrities would otherwise not watch.

    6. Re:I Can Identify by Daniel+Phillips · · Score: 1

      I live in Santa Monica and the place is crawling with celebs. I haven't recognised a single one in five years, though I have been told on a number of occasions I was rubbing shoulders with so and so or nearly bumped into such and such, or all those security people are in the store because grand high poobah is shopping at the moment. Usually I don't know who so and so or such and such is or which movies they appeared in, nor am I particularly interested in improving my knowledge in that regard. I would recognize Linus or Andrew on the other hand, provided I'm not too deep in working out some algorithm. These are the people who matter to me and as far as I am concerned, are much far important than someone famous for having been put on display.

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    7. Re:I Can Identify by Daniel+Phillips · · Score: 1

      Oh, a little anecdote, I have a friend who is a pop star in an Asian country and when we used to hang out I would usually pay more than my share of the bill. I was sworn never to reveal the dark secret: broke pop star. It seems stars do not necessarily make as much money as the industry machine would have us believe.

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    8. Re:I Can Identify by Phoenix666 · · Score: 1

      I can confirm this. The illusion surrounding celebrities is wafer thin. Up close and personal, they are quite empty vessels. But after the fact, it rather makes sense. The celebrities of the world are not superhuman. They are not smarter or more talented or better in any way than the average person. They just have coaching and representation.

      That said, Jennifer Connelly is a stone. cold. fox.

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  6. News that matters? Really? by vxice · · Score: 0

    or is this an accidental repeat from the April fools day prank a few years ago with an attempt to widen slashdot's appeal by adding "omg ponies" signs and pink color scheme now we add celebrity gossip?

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    1. Re:News that matters? Really? by Nadaka · · Score: 1

      Why do you think that the My Little Pony franchise was resurrected a few short years later? Slashdot brought forth ponies into the modern era.

    2. Re:News that matters? Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Were you hoping to see some tech stories on Slashdot? That is so 1999! To be honest, I don't even know why Linus would have gone to something like that. The whole thing must be such a bore.

    3. Re:News that matters? Really? by Mikkeles · · Score: 1

      Free food, man; probably very well prepared. Free booze, too; probably including grand scotch whiskys that I can't afford.

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  7. "So we could go whole retard quite openly.." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow.. good to see that Linus is also NOT politically correct!

  8. old folks heating stipend cancelled. nobody cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that's cold. not much to celebrate there? definitely up there with 'stuff that matters' a lot right now? phreaking old/frail people & their grandchildren. you gotta love 'em. trying to stay alive etc..., no matter what happens to them. that's US.

  9. What a fucking non-story. by kuzb · · Score: 0

    Seriously, this is not news. This is like some sort of tabloid shit. Keep this stupid crap off slashdot.

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    1. Re:What a fucking non-story. by raitchison · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure that technically it is in-fact news. Obviously not the kind that everyone is interested in.

      In any case CmdrTaco posted this particular FA, I would suspect he would know what does and doesn't belong on /.

    2. Re:What a fucking non-story. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What a brilliant opportunity to beg the question you've opened up....

    3. Re:What a fucking non-story. by hduff · · Score: 1

      Seriously, this is not news.

      So we wait until Linux goes all Charlie Sheen?

      (Or Hans Reiser of you prefer a geek meme.)

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    4. Re:What a fucking non-story. by Threni · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And since the terrible, terrible visual update to Slashdot they've lost the `news for nerds - stuff that matters` tag. And not before time; this story, like so many others here recently, is neither.

    5. Re:What a fucking non-story. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Applying for that Slashdot censorship job again, are ya?
      Seriously, make your own fucking nerd news aggregator.

    6. Re:What a fucking non-story. by safetyinnumbers · · Score: 1

      This is like some sort of tabloid shit.

      What's a 'Tabloid'? Oh, is that the new marketing name for a tablet running Android?

    7. Re:What a fucking non-story. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In case you haven't noticed, for all intents and purposes slashdot IS a tech-oriented tabloid.

  10. A geek in hollywood... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...Who cares.

    1. Re:A geek in hollywood... by xTantrum · · Score: 1

      I actually posted the above comment. For some reason i couldn't login from my iphone. Now that's a story Taco not this gossip rag this submission is turning /. Into.

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  11. I got to meet Linus when I worked at Transmeta... by Xyverz · · Score: 2

    So it's not close to being in Hollywood with the movie stars, but I can tell you if there's one guy out there who's so totally humble, Linus is it. He's a nice guy; it's great to see him get to do things like this from time to time.

  12. Re:I was at the party too! by Locke2005 · · Score: 2

    Warning: goatse is NSFW!

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  13. don't old people have a union or something? aspca? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Of course kids don't need anything, being young and all. plus they've never worked anyway, & like to be cold. But it would seem that the old folks union should help take care of them? They knew their retirement savings & taxes they had paid faithfully may have had to be spent on wars &/or stolen, so whose fault is it? Can't the kids get jobs when they're bigger, & then take care of the old people if they still insist on being alive? It has to be fair. It's not our fault.

  14. Be Informed by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 1

    "We interrupted David Spade chatting up Natalie Portman and Mila Kunis..."

    Too bad Linus was not familiar enough with B list movie stars to recognize Spade and slap him. I'll never get those hours back from Joe Dirt.

    1. Re:Be Informed by dkleinsc · · Score: 1

      If a butt-kicking is necessary, I assume Tove would be happy to provide it with her mad karate skillz.

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    2. Re:Be Informed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He was probably too busy staring at Mila Kunis. I know I would be.

    3. Re:Be Informed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please note the "If a butt-kicking is necessary, I assume Tove would be happy to provide it with her mad karate skillz." sibling post as also having relevance here. :)

    4. Re:Be Informed by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      "We interrupted David Spade chatting up Natalie Portman and Mila Kunis..."

      Too bad Linus was not familiar enough with B list movie stars to recognize Spade and slap him. I'll never get those hours back from Joe Dirt.

      What's the point of a man chatting up two lesbians?

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  15. carebear by ssbljk · · Score: 1

    One care bear is available for each person that actually cares
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Care_Bears

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  16. Re:I got to meet Linus when I worked at Transmeta. by corbettw · · Score: 2

    I can tell you if there's one guy out there who's so totally humble

    It's Hollywood, so yes, there's only one guy out there who's humble.

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  17. It starts with an Oscar pre-party.. by RightSaidFred99 · · Score: 2

    Next thing you know he'll be in the tabloids rumored to have snorted blow off Lindsay Lohan's ass.

    1. Re:It starts with an Oscar pre-party.. by ae1294 · · Score: 1

      Next thing you know he'll be in the tabloids rumored to have snorted blow off Lindsay Lohan's ass.

      Anyone who wants to buy her an 8ball can do that...

    2. Re:It starts with an Oscar pre-party.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not even news.

    3. Re:It starts with an Oscar pre-party.. by multipartmixed · · Score: 4, Funny

      Blow? Lindsay Lohan? Please.

      I heard poured hot grits down Natalie Portman's pants!

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  18. Re:I was at the party too! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't click the link, is is a goatse pic. I warned you!

  19. Not the father. by scubamage · · Score: 0

    He is not the father of Linux, he is the father of the Linux Kernel. There's a difference. All of the utilities, shells, pretty much everything else was GNU. And they would have had a kernel first if Stallman didn't spend all of his time working on Emacs.

    1. Re:Not the father. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He is not the father of Linux, he is the father of the Linux Kernel. There's a difference. All of the utilities, shells, pretty much everything else was GNU. And they would have had a kernel first if Stallman didn't spend all of his time working on Emacs.

      Linus is the mother?

    2. Re:Not the father. by icebraining · · Score: 4, Informative

      "Linux," by itself is the kernel. That's why Stallman makes the distinction between Linux and GNU/Linux. So he is in fact the father of Linux.

    3. Re:Not the father. by MobyDisk · · Score: 1

      And they would have had a kernel first if Stallman didn't spend all of his time working on Emacs.

      In his defense, Emacs is at least twice as powerful as most operating system kernels. :-)

    4. Re:Not the father. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is only one Linux and it's a kernel. There is no good reason to call a whole operating system "Linux". Case in point: if you run Debian/kFreeBSD, you don't say: my system is kFreeBSD, and neither should you say that it's Linux. (ok, so FreeBSD doesn't have a separate name for the kernel, so it's a stretch, but I hope my point comes across.) The proper name of the system is Debian.

    5. Re:Not the father. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Huh? Of course, he's the father of Linux.

      Perhaps he isn't the father of GNU/Linux, but nobody claimed he was. If you GNU zealots are so insistent that people call it GNU/Linux when referring to the system and that Linux is only the kernel, nothing else, you really can't take offense when somebody actually uses the name "Linux" to refer to just the kernel and says that Linus is the father of Linux.

      If you're taking offense at that, then you're also implicitely accepting that Linux really is the whole system. So, which is it?

    6. Re:Not the father. by JamesP · · Score: 1

      Yeah, he's going to implement GNU Hurd in Lisp as a module of Emacs

      oh wait...

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    7. Re:Not the father. by scubamage · · Score: 1

      A kernel with no applications to provide resources to does what exactly? When your average person calls Linus the "father of linux" they don't know that there is such a thing as a Kernel. They consider him 'the father of windows' just like Bill Gates is 'the father of DOS.' They have no idea that there are different components. Attributing the body of work of literally hundreds of thousands of developers to a single person is NOT ok.

    8. Re:Not the father. by Miseph · · Score: 1

      Which "average person"s are you referring to?

      I strongly suspect that Taco is aware of the Linux vs. GNU naming controversy. In fact, I strongly suspect that almost everyone on Slashdot is aware.

      Whether or not "average people" understand the role of a kernel in an OS is entirely irrelevant to whether or not Linus Torvalds is the originator of the Linux kernel.

      So here's a radical idea: rather than try to browbeat other geeks to whom few people listen into using your preferred nomenclature, why don't you try putting that nomenclature out into general use? The people who already know what you have to say are not only unlikely to care and likely to find you annoying, but almost completely irrelevant. The bar on promotion to the general populace is extremely low, so it really shouldn't be tough for the GNUbies to clear if they really want to make a meaningful contribution.

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    9. Re:Not the father. by VTI9600 · · Score: 2

      No, GNU-slash-Linux is not a distinction...it is a moniker he asks people to use because he rightfully wants the GNU Project to get the recognition it deserves. When people colloquially refer to "Linux", they are referring to a complete operating system (i.e. GNU-slash-Linux). The entire concept of a free-as-in-speech operating system was pioneered by Stallman. The GPL was created by Stallman. Linux (the kernel) would not have been free if the GPL hadn't come first. People (except the Debian folks) drop the GNU/ because it doesn't roll off the tounge quite so well as just saying "Linux". And others, such as our friends at Canonical, drop the word "Linux" altogether. None of this changes the reality of what Stallman created.

    10. Re:Not the father. by dbIII · · Score: 1

      That is of course the word in the MIT staffroom when RMS was asked "how is Hurd going lately" which is why we had the stupid LiGnuX and GNU/Linux naming storms in a teacup. It's petty academic politics that escaped into the real world.
      Most of the twisted definition of an OS used in the GNU/Linux idea came from the definition of an OS the Judge threw out in the Microsoft vs Netscape case.
      If you are going to use the stupid "father" idea you are going to have to make RMS the father of every project that uses the GPL because that's really been the main contribution.

    11. Re:Not the father. by migla · · Score: 1

      Yup yup. For some time now, we've grown accustomed to sloppily calling the whole OS "Linux", and maybe we should let language evolve how it evolves and accept that the common usage is what defines it.

      It has led to the funny situation that we hear that Android is not *really* Linux (as in GNU/X11/Linux), while it technically does have the kernel underneath.

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    12. Re:Not the father. by marsu_k · · Score: 1

      People (except the Debian folks) drop the GNU/ because it doesn't roll off the tounge quite so well as just saying "Linux".

      "It doesn't roll off the tongue quite so well" is quite an understatement. I do realize the FSF stance on the issue (although, where do you draw the line - should my disrtibution be GNU/Linux/x.org/KDE?), but seeing "Revolution OS" was quite enlightening - people actually pronounce it as "GNU-slash-Linux", which is really, really retarded. Marketing has always been an issue with free software, and while "Linux" might not be the sexiest term out there, it's certainly easier to sell than "GNU-slash-Linux".

    13. Re:Not the father. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Linux (the kernel) would not have been free if the GPL hadn't come first.

      Really? You have a portal into an alternate reality just like ours, except Stallman was never born, do you?

      Or perhaps you can prove from first principles why Linus could not have come up with a roughly equivalent concept all by himself.

      No? Then shut the fuck up, you arrogant cunt.

    14. Re:Not the father. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Free (as in beer) software existed before the GPL, before the FSF. There was a specific chain of events that led Stallman to create the GPL. His emacs code was being used in closed-source applications so he decided to create a viral license for releasing free software. Linus had no such experience and probably would have released his code under a BSD style license at best, allowing it to be co-opted by corporate interests. In any case, GNU userland came first. Then came the kernel.

  20. Linux and "The Social Network" by silly_sysiphus · · Score: 1

    Was I the only one geeky enough to be pleased at the sight of KDE 3.x on "Zuckerberg's" laptops in the movie?

    1. Re:Linux and "The Social Network" by outsider007 · · Score: 1

      No. Others are equally geeky.

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    2. Re:Linux and "The Social Network" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes.

    3. Re:Linux and "The Social Network" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't judge people by the OS they use. That's not geeky, that's bigotry.

    4. Re:Linux and "The Social Network" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...and here's your geek card, sir.

    5. Re:Linux and "The Social Network" by HaZardman27 · · Score: 1

      Real geeks don't use it, and hate those that do

      No, only pathetic outcasts with nothing better to do than talk about how stupid people are and how much they hate everyone else subscribe to this "Real Geek" ideology of yours.

      So, no, as a geek, you shouldn't use facebut, and certainly shouldn't see a movie about a filthy jew that ripped people of to create a mind-numbing tool.

      Yes, because "Real Geeks" would take orders or advice from a twat like you. Perhaps it's time for you to step out of your mother's basement and get a job; providing you haven't already become a giant mass of human Jell-O.

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  21. Earthquake by bugs2squash · · Score: 2

    I sit in my office (which used to be in the basement, now it's a room above the garage)

    I think he should get out of there now, before it moves even further

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    1. Re:Earthquake by Cant+use+a+slash+wtf · · Score: 1

      We do above and below differently in the Southern Hemisphere.

  22. so glamour is his corruption of choice? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Clearly, he won't be corrupted by such considerations as money, but glamor is another story. How long till he embrasses the Hollywood's view on intellectual property rights?

    1. Re:so glamour is his corruption of choice? by GNUALMAFUERTE · · Score: 0

      He does. He never liked the GPL, and didn't want to make his kernel free. He eventually did it, and then regretted it. That's why he refuses to switch to GPLv3, why he has failed to give credit to the FSF, and consistently worked to create confusion with the name of the system (Which was GNU before linus came along, and still is). He doesn't care about freedom at all.

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  23. Re:I was at the party too! by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

    I even have a picture of myself and Linus

    You do realize you just said you're the goatse guy, right?

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  24. Re:I got to meet Linus when I worked at Transmeta. by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 2

    I can tell you if there's one guy out there who's so totally humble

    It's Hollywood, so yes, there's only one guy out there who's humble.

    Actually most of them are. I'm sorry to suck the fun out of this well-established generalization, but this reputation is something that scared me when I first started working on movies. Instead of working with egotistical prima donnas like I expected, instead I met a lot of kind people who were eager to help me out. Maybe it's just because they're nice people or maybe it's just because movie making only really works when people work as a team. Couldn't tell you. What I can tell you is that I've dealt with a good deal less ego in this career than I did working at web startups back in the dot-com days.

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  25. Isn't a Linus encounter with *anyone* awkward? by Jozza+The+Wick · · Score: 1

    Not just movie stars? There, I said it.

  26. linus torvalds and charlie sheen's coke. by lindseyp · · Score: 1

    I heard Charlie Sheen was doing coke in the back room whereas Linus, the party boy, had brought his own stash of Jolt.

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  27. show me da pix! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    what, no pictures? this is all fud...

  28. Windows fans by PPH · · Score: 5, Funny

    Don't despair. I'm sure I saw Ballmer there.

    No, wait. That was Shrek. Never mind.

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    1. Re:Windows fans by Ocker3 · · Score: 2

      It's funny because none of us Windows people really care about Ballmer, except aboput when he's going to leave.

  29. Re:I was at the party too! by slasher157 · · Score: 0

    Unfortunately, I am not :-(

  30. Re:I got to meet Linus when I worked at Transmeta. by im_thatoneguy · · Score: 1

    I have found that ego is usually inverse proportional to talent. It's those who are mostly inept who seem to have the biggest chip on their shoulders. While there is a lot of BSing in hollywood there is also a lot of talented professionals who only got to where they are through a lot of hard work and experience. Such a brutal thinning process of reputation/skill tends to weed out the egotistical assholes more than something like accounting where you just have to impress the HR person.

    It's such a small industry that if you're an asshole and you are replaceable you probably won't have someone vouch for you on the next project.

  31. I destroyed pricing power of an entire industry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And all I got was this invite to this shitty Hollywood Party.

  32. Re:I got to meet Linus when I worked at Transmeta. by e4g4 · · Score: 1

    I've dealt with a good deal less ego in this career than I did working at web startups back in the dot-com days.

    That's because successful actors don't have to wear the bridle of not actually having made any money yet...

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  33. Re:I got to meet Linus when I worked at Transmeta. by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 1

    I've dealt with a good deal less ego in this career than I did working at web startups back in the dot-com days.

    That's because successful actors don't have to wear the bridle of not actually having made any money yet...

    That's an odd response to what I said. I'm not Hollywood's biggest talent agent.

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  34. Re:I got to meet Linus when I worked at Transmeta. by boxwood · · Score: 1

    Yeah, the people who are nice get more work. Its pretty obvious when Directors are always casting the same actors in all their movies. How many Tim Burton Movies don't have Johnny Depp or Helena Bonham-Carter? How many Ridley Scott movies have Russel Crowe in them? On the other side, how many Steven Speilberg movies have Julia Roberts? Only one, because Speilberg Didn't get along well with Roberts.

    Yeah if you're a big name Actor you'll still get work even if you're an asshole, but there will be some big name directors that will refuse to work with you. And thats not helping your career much.

  35. Father of Linux by roman_mir · · Score: 1

    the Father of Linux, Linux Torvalds, and his wife Tove were among the beautiful people

    From the blog:

    Everybody seemed to take [us walking up to familiar looking people and asking them who they were] in good cheer. We interrupted David Spade chatting up Natalie Portman and Mila Kunis (that's what Tove says, I was oblivious - it's those famous geek social graces again. I told her I'm sure I'd have noticed Natalie Portman and that she can't possibly have been there, but whatever), and Tove pissed off Warren Beatty by asking his name not just once, but twice.

    So. Who is this, Linux Torvalds anyway?

    No, I mean, who is this Linux Torvalds anyway?

    1. Re:Father of Linux by Chris+Pimlott · · Score: 1

      FACT: Torvalds started Linux

      FACT: Linux is named after its creator

      ERGO: Torvalds's first name is Linux

      The logic is unassailable.

  36. Re:I got to meet Linus when I worked at Transmeta. by IrquiM · · Score: 1

    What? I thought everyone had a Charlie Sheen in them...?

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  37. Re:I got to meet Linus when I worked at Transmeta. by e4g4 · · Score: 1

    My point was that startups are, for the most part, unproven and unprofitable, so people working for them overcompensate by being a bit egotistical. I say this as someone who's been kicking around the "Silicon Alley" startup culture for a while; I've seen it a few times.

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