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35,000 Linux Benchmarks In a Week
G3ckoG33k writes "Openbenchmarking.org has received 37,027 benchmarks (mainly Linux, and some Macs) in the first week since its inauguration. 241,384 completed tests using 468,344 components from 438 hardware vendors. All results submitted by end users. I guess the hardware support for Linux must become even better thanks to this effort. Yes, the benchmarks are easy to install and run, and you can readily compare your own system anonymously with the results already submitted, using any or all of hundreds of free applications in 47 categories."
That's all that matters, right?
And they all were done poorly and showed nothing useful for the real world.
I'm not sure why they are spending so much time on Linux, when it is used so little for actual desktop work. This site should really set its focus on OS X which certified Unix (unlike Linux which is just a non-standard proprietary clone).
My biggest issue with most benchmarks is the underhanded deals between sites/mags and tech companies who provide incentives and free hardware. While I take individual benchmarks with a grain of salt as well for a lot of reasons, I'm far more confident that thousands of people haven't been bought and sold in the way ad supported publications seem to be.
These devs are amazing.
Benchmark here
It was tested with nexuiz game.
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I read TFA and all I got was this lousy cookie
A supposedly intelligent person claimed that blacks are at least as intelligent as whites because they are so "innovative." His example was that
blacks would take an old steel oil-drum (which whites considered to be rubbish) and turn it into something useful-- a steel drum. Leaving aside
whether or not a steel-drum band of muds is, in any way, shape or form, "useful," let?s look at his argument.
The white man had made the steel oil-drum as a means of transporting oil around the world. This involved creating an industrial technology, and
developing mining industry to a point where oil wells could be sunk in the North Sea (or Gulf of Mexico), and crude oil successfully removed. Then a
world-wide trading network had to be established. Let us gloss over the need for international economic transactions, international credit and
banking, electronic money transfers, telephonic and satellite communications, and the stable economies and governments needed to make this possible.
Instead, let's look at the need to produce oil tankers to transport the oil. The need for computers to navigate the ships, the level of technology
needed to produce the ships, the schools needed to educate those who will serve on the ships, the engineering skills and training for those making
them.
Let us now think about the products kept going by the oil. The plastics, the chemicals, the cars, and so on. And all this on a world-wide scale, over
generations. And we haven't even touched on road and rail systems, intensive farming and refrigeration to feed those in the industrialised cities,
the factories, the building trade, power generation, written and computerised record keeping, or a thousand and one other things, all associated with
the world oil production and trade.
And of all this, the oil drum is a minor by-product, a practical but simple and fairly primitive form of storage whilst in temporary transit.
And if, by some chance or accident, one of these oil drums washes up on the shore of dusky Africa, what do the native inhabitants do? Use it in their
own oil industry? No. Use it as a spring-board towards future development? No. They turn it upside-down and hit it with sticks! Call me pedantic, but
that doesn't make them my equal. Not one of the dozens of items I listed above has appeared in Africa, ever. Not even writing. A continent surrounded
by ocean, watered by massive lakes and rivers, and the black natives never dreamt a sail. Thousands of miles of flat grasslands, and they never
fashioned a wheel, nor domesticated animals. Surrounded by stone, they never constructed a building better than a hut. Acres of diamonds and the
world's largest gold fields, and they never glanced at them until shown their beauty by white men. And all this for tens of thousands of years,
thousands of generations living with no change, no progress.
But they are our "equal" or so the brainwashed politically correct morons would have you
believe.
The look of the site (and the results page in particular) reminds me of the Dilbert series about User Interface Poisoning from UIs designed by engineers. (http://www.guuui.com/images/20020924.gif)
This site is unreadable.
Windows users have nothing like this. Too bad for them. Although the Phoronix test suite is actually coming to Windows. The Windows version is very alpha right now. Be an interesting twist if Windows users can take advantage of this in the future.
To quote Phoronix.
"The Phoronix Test Suite support on Windows is very early in development and is not targeted for normal end-users with most areas not yet being implemented but will be later on in the Phoronix Test Suite 2.4 development cycle. At this time the Phoronix Test Suite client is dependent upon PHP being installed to C:\Program Files (x86)\PHP\php. The Phoronix Test Suite also uses CPU-Z for much of the hardware detection support on Windows and is dependent upon CPU-Z being installed to C:\Program Files\CPUID\CPU-Z\cpuz.exe."
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Update me when this isn't written in PHP.
- Michael T. Babcock (Yes, I blog)
The article summary here intrigued and excited me. I headed to the site, eagerly hoping to compare the performance of my system against the 35,000 submissions, and to submit my own results for the community to share. But when I got there, I was lost and confused. The site is almost completely incomprehensible to me. Navigation is a nightmare. I can't figure out how to see the results for a given system. When I do, by accident, stumble upon a page with some graphs, I can't figure out how to compare these with another system. There seems to be no rhyme nor reason to the hyperlinks, and precious little in the way of explanations and guidance. It's a pity that a site which has the potential to be such a useful resource has been rendered completely unusable by poor organization and UI design.
So that I don't actually have to visit the site to find out it's useless.
-- Linux user #369862
I've had a quick look, this is still about "bigger numbers are better". It would be nice te have more focus on power usage of modern computers!
Your old blog from 2007 at http://blogs.technet.com/b/jonjah/ tells us right away that you are a shill, a self-admitted MICROSOFT shill at that.
Go get a life.
Here's what it has to say about that:
Lenovo ubuntu 10.10 is a motherboard. This product is available from Lenovo. The Lenovo ubuntu 10.10 has been tested via the Phoronix Test Suite in the configurations listed below.
Let me know when they've sanitized their DB.
I see a lot of data, but no organisation -- all I really want is a simple table like this one
I mod down anyone who says "I will be modded down for this", regardless of the rest of their comment
""bigger numbers are better". It would be nice te have more focus on power usage of modern computers!"
And how is bigger numbers in battery minutes different?!
Bigger numbers _are_ better, when you ask the right question.
So what is the best benchmark (however that is defined)?
Phoronix test suite
The venerable UnixBench BYTE magazine lineage, updated by Yahoo.
Geekbench
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PHP has allowed Phoronix Test suite to support everything from embedded ARM systems to cloud compute infrastructure. The fact it uses PHP makes it extremely portable. Virtually anywhere that there is a compiler and PHP, Phoronix Test Suite can run. Note that the benchmarking itself is not in PHP, it's done in whatever native language the benchmark needs.
+1 informative.
(I already commented, dammit!)
Right, because PHP is the most common and portable language in the world. Not.
Here's an idea, why not use something like PERL that really IS portable? Better yet, when writing a benchmark, why not use a language that's efficient so you're benchmarking the system not the quality of the implementation of the interpreter on that system?
Any interpreted language is to be avoided for benchmarking unless it happens to be the system in use on that platform anyway (such as Java on a portable device). All we're otherwise seeing is "my platform is better suited to the Zend interpreter than yours" -- except when comparing same-platform systems to each other, in which case portability wouldn't have been an issue anyway.
- Michael T. Babcock (Yes, I blog)
Okay. It's clear you haven't looked into the Phoronix Test Suite. (PTS)
The software product itself is a Test Execution Environment. The suite's value add is that it simplifies the download and execution of the actual tests and benchmarks that are executed. Those test or benchmarks are in whatever language the author of that test profile wanted to write it in.
PHP is not involved in any actual _measuring_ of performance, but is involved in the orchestration, interpretation and aggregation of the results.
Check out the version of PTS in your local convenient distribution (it's in most of the recent ones).