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Samsung Galaxy Ad Misleads With Fake Interviews
unassimilatible writes "A Samsung ad campaign for the latest Galaxy Tab is misleading, to say the least. Actors pretending to be real people in fake interviews in a fake magazine misquoting a bad first-gen Galaxy tab review, are exposed — by the actual review writer. Netizens 'are having fun pointing out other curious things about the interviews, such as the fact that "leading New York real-estate CEO Joseph Kolinski" raves about the 8.9-inch Galaxy Tab even though the only 8.9-inch Tabs that Samsung itself had on hand at CTIA were non-working models.' Kolinski is actually an actor, not a CEO, Jim."
http://news.slashdot.org/story/11/03/26/0129207/Samsungs-Happy-Galaxy-Tab-Users-Are-Actors
The odds of the Galaxy interviews being genuine... *sunglasses* ...are astronomical.
YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
Really /.? I know that dupes happen, but this is ridiculous!
We call that a dupe.
quick! he's not using the terminology i use, tell him he must be new!
We call that a dupe.
It's like parking your car right next to a car that looks just like the story that was posted yesterday morning (or something like that).
Apple sucks, so we have to copy everything they do.
So what you're saying is that if Samsung is going to copy Apple's astroturfing campaigns, they need to do a better job of it?
...for movies and stories, why not for ads?
This Slashdot story is now out of date! I have NEW INFORMATION!
I just found out that the people in those GALAXY TAB ads... are ACTORS! That's right! You heard it here first!
#DeleteChrome
Quick, someone delete the submitted topic. We already have had this conversation before.
Life is not for the lazy.
Not exactly a dupe. The story here isn't that they are actors, it's that Samsung's marketing copied a writer's review -- one that is NOT a good review of their product, and used it in a fake magazine. Read the source.
So wait... I'm confused, who do we hate again? The Galaxy Tab runs Android, and Android is open source, so they are good, right? But Android is created and managed by Google, who is hoarding our personal data and undoubtedly invading our privacy rights, so they are bad, right? But the Galaxy Tab's main competitor is Apple's iPad, and the iPad's OS is a walled garden that prevents me from doing what I want with a device I purchased outright, so competition against that is good right? But Apple's walled garden keeps bad things out and good things in, so paying a premium for it is totally worth it and justified, so Android is bad, right?
I'm so confused.
Does a cat count as someone?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hodgman
Remember kids, if you're not paying for the service, YOU ARE THE PRODUCT THAT IS BEING SOLD.
The television lies
I was suddenly reminded of Galaxy Quest. Coincidence?
It is well known that, "a cat is fine too."
Happy smily kids eating at Mickey D are, in truth, a bunch of bratty whiners.
Continental doesn't really Love to Fly, they much prefer counting their money while laughing at stranded customers
Dell never really cared about customer satisfaction, but, at best, about being a bit less unsatisfactory than the competition, and cheaper.
and
No, we can't. Not really.
The Cloud - because you don't care if your apps and data are up in the air.
Cats are the ONLY ones that count as someone. In their world view, you exist merely to operate a can opener.
As soon as a reliable can-opening robot is developed, we will be unnecessary.
How come Slashdot never gets Slashdotted?
Like it or not, Apple is the most wanted brand lof tablets and phones. You can add flash, hdmi, double rainbows to your tablet but if Steve Jobs didn't produce it then it is regarded as pig shit by the masses.
Samsungs status = Told.
No, it's regarded as pig shit by Apple afficionados, people that would believe in the infallibility of Apple even if it did turn out pig shit. The rest of us look at the overall value proposition, and may or may not decide to buy Apple based upon our actual needs. The phenomenal success of Android in the handset market shows very clearly that not everyone considers Apple a "must buy." And that's only reasonable: no single product, or product line, can hope to serve everyone's needs.
The higher the technology, the sharper that two-edged sword.
What world are you living in?
If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating
BREAKING NEWS: Justin Long isn't really a Mac. Also, Jon Hodgeman isn't really a PC.
This completely overturns my blind faith in the veracity of advertisements. If this one commercial contains fictional people, why, they all could! And what about the so-called "facts" they tell me? Maybe my beer really isn't less filling!? Maybe it doesn't really taste great!? What will I do?!?!
How can you tell that a marketing guy is lying? His lips are moving.
How can you tell that a marketing guy is omitting important information? His lips aren't moving.
Do people still honestly believe that commercials/advertisements/testimonials portraying consumers offering their opinions on the product are genuine?
This is business as usual. I would wager a guess at 95% of all commercials don't use genuine consumers. The remaining 5% (Vonage for example) have that little notice at the bottom that says something to the effect of "We offered them products and services for their endorsement in this commercial."
Not quite. Until the cat-operated remotely-operated opposable thumb device is complete, humans will also be needed to open doors, change TV channels and write lolcat captions. Cats have progressed on the last of those, with the new plug-in for speech recognition devices, but it is limited to the Breaking News section at present.
It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
Repetition drives retention.
Help stamp out iliturcy.
Galaxy Quest? Is that another Samsung device?
I hope this reporter(?) hasn't seen any commercials with doctors in them. They are actors too. I would hazard to say that everyone on TV are actors. Yes I am including the news and reality TV.
It impedes upon my ability to believe everything that I hear without doing any actual research about it myself! Ban it immediately!
Filthy, filthy copyrapists!
All this time, I was believing everything I saw in commercials. Am I now to believe that:
1) The Ford F150 that I got when I traded in my Toyota Corolla will NOT get better mileage, and my voice will NOT get deeper when I talk about it. ....
2) Cialis does NOT come with two free bathtubs?
3)
I'm sorry, I just can't continue. My dreams have just been shattered against the jagged rocks of reality, and I need to go get my iPad to pray to Jobs for new direction in my life.
I was thinking exactly the opposite. Maybe they should come inside for a while. Obviously, they have been living in the woods for their entire life and have never even seen a TV much less watched one.
is also not really jolly, green, or a giant.
Pah! The last dupe I saw wasn't a functioning model, so it doesn't count.
The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
No, no, kdawson is the worst ""editor"" -- he's so bad, he needs nested scare quotes. samzenpus is the worst mere "editor".
It wouldn't be so obvious that there was an agenda if the acting in the ad wasn't sooo bad. It looks like one of those really bad retail/fast food training videos.
Really? Hands up if you're actually surprised that they use actors in advertisements. Jeez, people were you born yesterday? Newsflash! Everything in advertising is a lie designed to get you to buy a product you don't need. I thought parents taught this shit to kids when they start watching TV...
But a dupe of a really terribly unimportant story. Getting paid to advertise the Galaxy Tab, are we?
"quick! he's not using the terminology i use, tell him he must be new!"
Holy shit, your UID is almost a million higher than mine. YOU MUST BE NEW HERE!
Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
Apple sucks, so we have to copy everything they do.
So what you're saying is that if Samsung is going to copy Apple's astroturfing campaigns, they need to do a better job of it?
Well, they could start copying Apple by actually finding real people who like their products. Remember Ellen Feiss?
Not so sure about that. Air is pretty much universally popular.
I'm just waiting for iAir to come out. You're breathing it wrong!
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
People were saying that about iPhones and Android-based phones are already far outselling iPhones.
When it comes down to it, there are people like me who will neither pay a premium price for something that looks pretty nor pay a premium price for something that is so locked down to be useless for the tasks they need to do with it.
Gentoo Linux - another day, another USE flag.
In DOCOMO commercials in Japan, the actual Galaxy Tab pretends to be Ken Watanabe: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_y8fjslHJuk
No, it's regarded as pig shit by Apple afficionados, people that would believe in the infallibility of Apple even if it did turn out pig shit.
No, AC has it right. Android has been on tablets for what, half a year now? No one is buying them. I seem to recall a bunch of predictions back in March and April last year that by Fall 2010, iPad would be outsold by the plethora of inexpensive but more powerful Android tablets.
Instead, iPad completely owns the tablet market. Android is barely a footnote.
The rest of us look at the overall value proposition, and may or may not decide to buy Apple based upon our actual needs.
That's funny. Do you really think the average consumer is going to methodically evaluate the iPad compared to Android tablets and make a choice based on specs?
Judging the overall value proposition will happen, but it won't be made based on the criteria you are thinking it will be. 15 million people made a value proposition in 2010 for the iPad. Right now Apple cannot make iPad 2's fast enough.
The phenomenal success of Android in the handset market shows very clearly that not everyone considers Apple a "must buy." And that's only reasonable: no single product, or product line, can hope to serve everyone's needs.
No, the "phenomenal" success of Android in the handset market (nice selective criteria there, iOS has greater market share than Android overall) shows that people have multiple criteria when choosing a cell phone beyond simply the OS and quality of the phone. This includes things price (how many of those Android phones were free with a contract?), carrier choice, and a physical keyboard. None of these things apply to the iPad.
On the tablet, Android has to compete with iOS directly, and so far it has failed miserably.
Like it or not, Apple is the most wanted brand lof tablets and phones. You can add flash, hdmi, double rainbows to your tablet but if Steve Jobs didn't produce it then it is regarded as pig shit by the masses.
You know what's funny? The #1 best selling smartphone brand in 2010 in Canada, US, UK, and Latin America was Blackberry.
The big news in early March wasn't that Android overtook Apple in share of US smartphone subscribers -- it was that Android overtook RIM. Apple doesn't and hasn't even come close. See for yourself:
October 2010: Apple 24.6%, Android 23.5%, RIM 35.8%
January 2011: Apple 24.7%, Android 31.2%, RIM 30.4%
Given the data, it doesn't appear that Apple is even close to the "most wanted" brand of smartphone, let alone phones in general.
Apples status = Told.
Required reading for internet skeptics
Actors will have another means of supplementing their income.
Look at reality TV shows. Where do you think they find people who are so eager to put themselves out there? Casting studios are a good bet. Of course, on the TV show, they'll pick a job other than "actor" when they say what they do.
So, perhaps Mr. Kolinski does run a small real estate firm on the side. Perhaps Joan Hess does write about travel. She's certainly presented a travel related TV show.
Rob Rozeboom dupe dee dup.
Dupe dee dupedee dupe dup. Until one day, da dupe dupe-e dupe dupe.
Dupe da ddupe got teetley dumb.
From the creators of 'dup' and 'tum ta tittaly tum ta too', Rob Rozeboom is: 'Da dupe dee dupe da teeley dupe-e dupe dumb'.
Rated PG-13.
Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens
The difference being that Galaxy Quest was actually good...
"quick! he's not using the terminology i use, tell him he must be new!"
Holy shit, your UID is almost a million higher than mine. YOU MUST BE NEW HERE!
And yours is nearly a million higher than mine... I most be old here!
Apple sucks, so we have to copy everything they do.
So what you're saying is that if Samsung is going to copy Apple's astroturfing campaigns, they need to do a better job of it?
Well, they could start copying Apple by actually finding real people who like their products. Remember Ellen Feiss?
It should be easy enough to find real people. Find a bunch of poncy photogenic "creative" types, give them a tablet for their troubles and let them gush profusely about how the device changed their lives. People will whore themselves out quite readily and say any shit you want them to say when there is a shiny toy for their troubles.
People weren't staying away from the Android tablets that most certainly did exist (and failed miserably) over the last year because of it not having "official" tablet support (which is complete retroactive bullshit, there were official Android tablets shipped in 2010, these weren't simply using the non-controlled open source version of Android). The limitations of pre-Honeycomb tablets wouldn't be terribly apparent in the store. If people actually wanted Android tablets, they would have sold well and just had high returns if Gingerbread were insufficient as a tablet OS.
Your notion that people want all sorts of different sizes and feature sets is overstated. The iPad 2 easily satisfies 90% of consumers who might prefer slight differences in... What exactly? The only major potential desirable difference is screen size.
Your assertion that the iPad is "VERY restrictive" is laughable. For most people, iPads are the exact opposite of restrictive. You also seem to have missed the memo that iPads have HDMI and physical keyboards.
So, *maybe* there will be some people who will like the idea of a 7" tablet enough to go with Android instead, but it's not going to be many.
Given the data, it doesn't appear that Apple is even close to the "most wanted" brand of smartphone, let alone phones in general.
Apples status = Told.
Instead of inferring customer's desire from current market share numbers, wouldn't it be more accurate to survey them directly about which smartphone they would want to buy? And somebody helpfully did:
Apple Inc.'s iPhone is the most desired device among users shopping for smartphones, beating the BlackBerry and Google Inc.'s Android as consumers prepare for the holiday season, according to Nielsen Co.
In a survey of U.S. shoppers looking for a smartphone, 30 percent said they wanted to buy an iPhone, according to a Nielsen survey from August through October. Phones running Google's Android software placed second with 28 percent.
Apples status = Real.
Android has been on tablets for at least 2 years, probably longer. Stop trying to ignore anything that isn't made by your own favorite manufacturers.
People weren't staying away from the Android tablets that most certainly did exist (and failed miserably) over the last year because of it not having "official" tablet support (which is complete retroactive bullshit, there were official Android tablets shipped in 2010, these weren't simply using the non-controlled open source version of Android). The limitations of pre-Honeycomb tablets wouldn't be terribly apparent in the store. If people actually wanted Android tablets, they would have sold well and just had high returns if Gingerbread were insufficient as a tablet OS.
Yes they were staying away. Partly for lack of support, partly for lack of choice and partly for lack of an affordable model. I consider myself very pro Android but I've steered clear of an Android tablet and intend to continue to do so until they become more affordable. I could cite all sorts of reasons Android is great but I'm not so blinded to buy something in spite of its faults.
I was very tempted by the Archos 101 save for the OS version it runs and it not being compatible device as per CDD. I considered the Tab to be a giant phone bloated with useless features and a high price. I'm sure I'm not alone in those opinions. I think this year will be a lot different and the evidence can be seen of new tablet announcements coming from all over the place.
... SHOCKER: Those persons have not been using stuff from the future for months. They just pretend to.
How could any sane person expect anything else? This whole affair is just stupid.
You sure are bitter against Apple, aren't you? You're such a genius, but you can't even conceive of the idea that Apple users gush about Apple products because they actually like them?
I must be undead here in that case.....
"Linux is not our destination, it is simply the open road to tommorow"
Actual sales numbers are rather more useful than customers' desires as a way of measuring market share.
To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
I thoroughly enjoyed your post. Right now I'm tingling in anticipation of the frothing-mouthed Android apologists who can't wait to tear you apart. I love to watch them twitch and flop when someone slaps them with a dose of reality.
What does that make me?
-rozzin.
Ha!! I sure am enjoying this. Yes, motorola has launched a ridiculously expensive, partially functional, poorly performing product that I believe is already being shut down. Where is your comparably priced Android tablet which is going to kick the iPad off its perch? Right now it's all vapor.
You need to wake up and face a bit of reality. While the iPad may not enjoy this lead forever, one reality you have to face is one factor is not present in the tablet wars, the cellular carrier. The fact that the iPhone was exclusive on AT&T for 3 years gave Android an opportunity to gain traction via Verizon. (Yes, I know the US market is not the world, but this is the reason Android is even alive in the US). Now that iPhone is also on Verizon lets wait and see how the Android phones fare when they have to compete head to head? Verizon is already trying to give them damned things away now that the iPhone is on the network. While it's correct to say no device works for everyone, I would make the assertion that the iPad will appeal to a much larger segment of the population than the Xoom or other Android copycat.
As for you last paragraph, exactly HOW is the iPad expensive when no one else can seem to match the price? Hmmmm? Is anyone other than rabid Apple haters complaining that the iPad is "VERY restrictive". . . .(answer, NO!)? And the reason the iPad has unfettered exclusivity is that Apple built their first, and everyone else is still in copy mode since they don't seem to be able to have an original idea. I think you should sit down and have a drink because you are going to have to face an unpleasant reality at some point . . . ..your precious Android is not as great as you think it is.
Yes, you certainly do see a lot of announcements. Unfortunately that's all you see, announcements. The Android tablet market at this point is largely vaporware. The few that have been released have looked good on paper, but received shitty reviews. It doesn't bode well for Android apologists' ability to sleep at night.
It really is funny to have people pretend that the iPad represents some magic featureset / price that absolutely cannot be beaten. It shouldn't have to be pointed out that a quick look at what happened in the smart phone market pisses all that idea.
I would say the Android toehold in the US is largely due to iPhone being locked into AT&T for 3 years. If iPhone would have been available on multiple networks here I doubt Android would have much market share. We'll have to see how it fares against iPhone on AT&T and Verizon going forward, but I think we'll see a slip in Android sales on those two networks.
The Nook? Really? No wonder it undercuts it, because it's not a F'in tablet, it's an e-reader! Not familiar with the other ones, but if those are Apples vs oranges comparisions like you did with the Nook then I'd say you're full of shit. And please explain to me how these wonderful Android tablets, which "significantly" undercut the iPad price, are almost unheard of outside of Android apologists?
If all you're looking at is price then Android truly is a shitty solution. I certainly don't think the iPad is perfect, nor that its feature set/price can't be beat. I just believe that there is nothing beating it now, and all the vapor ware that has been announced so far is clouding the Android apologists' minds. And just so you can pull your head out of your ass a little faster, the phone market is not the same as the tablet market. The sooner you realize that, the sooner you can start to make some arguments that make sense.
The Nook is smaller form factor, perfect for book reading a bit of browsing. The Archos 101 kicks the crap out of the iPad at playing videos. The Vega is a powerful dual core tablet for half the price of an iPad, perfect for hackers. And they're last years models. Many prominent models are coming down the pipe this year. It is quite obvious what will happen whether a zealot such as yourself chooses to acknowledge it or not.
It's not a lie!
It's not fraud!
It's a serving suggestion!
What? Where's the beef? Well, it's -- Look! Over there! A unicorn!
me. --a by-product of public education
here in germany we had such commercials since the concentration camps.. how is this new?
You mentioned the war but I think you got away with it.
To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
Petroleum product?
Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
Actual sales numbers are rather more useful than customers' desires as a way of measuring market share.
Huh? Whether Apple is the "most wanted brand" of smartphones or not is the point of contention here. Sales numbers being useful for measuring of market share is neither here nor there.
It's over nine thousand!
Change is certain; progress is not obligatory.
I was interested in contacting the "liberal" response guest, an identified NY University business economics professor -- took me three months to finally track her down as she had no connection with NYU, nor ever had, but WAS a member of the NY chapter of the Screen Actors Guild (she didn't realize she was posing as an imposter but was misled into believing it was an audition).
Ah I understand now. Your colossal intellect appears to have trouble comprehending other points of view.
Exactly. Is not this all normal? All the time TV ads show happy 'customers' who are in fact actors.
I'm sorry, where again are all the iPad-killing Android tablets? First, you say they are coming over the next few months (but let's ignore that that has been the case for a year now!), now you say they've been out all this time?
But that's really the point. There are little book tablets, and big geek tablets, and dumpy video tablets, yet even combined, they pale in comparison to the iPad. But, we are assured, Real Soon Now this will all change...
You also bring up the straw man that the iPad can't satisfy everyone. You're right, it can't. But no one is claiming that. But they can (and clearly do) satisfy more people than all other tablets that existed since the first tablet ever created *combined*. All this in only nine months!
Geeks have an over-inflated sense of relevancy. If we listened to you, we'd all be running dumpy Archos MP3 players, Linux desktops and Linux netbooks. But we aren't. The most successful geek recommendation is Firefox, and even that is not the market leader.
Android's success in the phone market is an anomaly, and is not an indication that people actually prefer the OS. It's an indication that the phone market has strong primary considerations before even choosing a handset. And once those are addressed, artificial influences that come into play.
When forced to compete head-to-head without these influences, in the form of the iPad and iPod touch, Android fails miserably.
Who knows, maybe consumers prefer a 7" tablet? Doubtful, but possible. But they definitely don't give a shit if they have to buy a $29 adapter to get an SD slot, or if the App Store is "closed" (clue stick: so is the Android Market), or whatever other feature tickles your geek fancy.
And above all else, one thing is extremely apparent: they don't actually prefer Android the OS over iOS the OS.
I comprehended your point of view just fine. It's just that you were wrong.
I thoroughly enjoyed your post. Right now I'm tingling in anticipation of the frothing-mouthed Android apologists who can't wait to tear you apart. I love to watch them twitch and flop when someone slaps them with a dose of reality.
Ha. Thus speaks a true Apple apologist. Jobs is not God, Apple is not forever, nor is it perfect. And "frothing mouthed"? The only frothing I usually see is Apple fans who just can't STAND even the slightest criticism of their chosen supplier of shiny objects.
Hypocrite. Learn to handle differing opinions. It makes you more tolerable.
The higher the technology, the sharper that two-edged sword.
nice selective criteria there, iOS has greater market share than Android overall
Oh? Not according to Techcrunch. Nice lie there.
The higher the technology, the sharper that two-edged sword.
The Great leader loves the Galaxy Tablet! There will soon be several applications that will download different photographs of our great leader using his Galaxy Tablet!
Hurry and get yours today!
Ross Youngblood
nice selective criteria there, iOS has greater market share than Android overall
Oh? Not according to Techcrunch. Nice lie there.
Come back when you learn how to read.
Just as a point on a 7" tablet, it really depends on what it's being used for. The Nook Color is 7" and has sold 3 million devices so clearly some people like the form factor. I expect people who want a device primarily for reading books probably prefer a smaller form factor. BTW I strongly believe Amazon will have an Android tablet soon - their app store initiative doesn't make any sense except in that context.
Now some people would balk at 7" and would want something larger. Just like smart phones you can expect Android tablets in all kinds of shapes & sizes. Some might have keyboards, some might have 4:3 aspect ratio, others 16:10 or 16:9. Some might have a 10.1" screen, others at 5", 7", 9", etc. Some might have lots of storage, some might have little but ship a micro SD. etc.
The point being one size does not fit all and the market will reflect that in the features they focus on and the prices they charge.
It's an "ad" -- of course they use paid actors! That is the norm.
Even when they say 'real person', that simply means they aren't a robot, but they can still be a paid actor...etc.
This has been the norm in advertising for decades.
Again with the Nook! The Nook is NOT a tablet, it's an e-reader, and your disingenuous attempt to categorize it as a tablet has failed. It's a very limited use device which could not be mistaken for a tablet. If detractors would call the iPad limited and chastize Apple for it, then the Nook is almost non-functional in comparison and should not even be mentioned in the same sentence. Quit trying to coopt e-readers devices as tablets and then using them as an example of a lower priced, high sales product that is competing well with the iPad. They are not even remotely in the same category and you know it.
The Nook Color is a tablet moron. It's a 7" capacitive LCD device running android. It's main purpose might be as an ereader but it ships with other apps including a web browser. It's a tablet. Grow up ffs.
JUMP, MONKEY-BOY, JUMP!
First, I don't past anonymously, you stupid moron. The link you posted proves otherwise.
Second, I doubt anyone is impressed with your use of the "c" word.
Third, same goes for making fun of my going temporarily blind in one eye.
Fourth, it's like I said - you can't help it - you have to attack me whenever you're not busy attacking someone else. Your pitiful ego demands it, because you can't stand that a woman totally p0wns you without even doing anything for months on end.
I must have really hit a nerve for you to think that any AC post about you was written by me. Let me guess - mommy didn't change your diapers when you were little, and you have a thing against women? Or a female obstetrician, and she slapped the wrong end? And when you mother said "Isn't he a treasure", you father said "quick - lets bury it before someone sees it and say you miscarried."
Speaking of which, did your parents have any children who survived?
JUMP, MONKEY-BOY, JUMP! You can't stop ...
Not quite sure that analogy works, because they have vendor subsidies helping to keep the price down.
And of course, as usual, it needs saying that Apple don't care that Android has more market share. Firstly because they are making most of the money in the market, and secondly because they cannot increase their market share anyway, because their product is selling as fast as they can make it.
As for your specific requirements, Steve Jobs agrees with you. He's made it very clear: there are some people who do not want a curated experience on their phone, and those people should get an Android device instead. (He would caution you to be careful, because not all Android phones are as open as you think, but he completely gets that iOS devices are not for you.)
~~~~~ BigLig2? You mean there's another one of me?
Here you go
The higher the technology, the sharper that two-edged sword.
I don't think Steve Jobs cares anything more about me beyond wondering whether or not I have a healthy & compatible liver he can buy from me.
Gentoo Linux - another day, another USE flag.