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Think I'm Not American? Pass the Hamburgers.
purkinje writes "Immigrants and their children may choose to eat American food as a way to fit in, a new study found, which may help explain why immigrants catch up to the country's obesity levels in 15 years. The researchers cast doubt on some subjects' Americanness, asking if they spoke English or saying they had to be American to participate; this provokes what psychologists call stereotype threat, the fear you'll confirm negative stereotypes about your group. White participants weren't affected by these comments, but Asian-American participants were more likely to list quintessentially American foods — burgers, BLTs, mac and cheese — as their favorites when the researchers called their status as American into question. They were also more likely to order and eat those dishes, consuming an average of 182 more calories than their non-threatened counterparts."
They eat that for convenience and price, just like the rest of us.
Ironically, the Hamburger is from Hamburg. It's a German meal.
Most, if not all, cultures on this planet use food as a method of identity. If you went to China or Japan or France and still only sought out American-style food, you would likely be outcast. It's the same in America... especially for children! What recent immigrant children have to endure in the realm of food-mockery is genuine. /remembers bringing tamales to school in elementary school //remembers watching my Chinese friend bring dried fish and rice. ///kids are horrible and get away with it.
Research indicates that Asian-American SAT scores drop in the third generation and drop-out rates catch up with the rest of the population by the fifth. Following the lowering of ambitions from 'medical school' to 'minimum wage cashier at Walmart' in seventh-generation Asian-Americans, assimilation is deemed complete.
Anyone who doesn't want that burger isn't un-American. They're inhuman.
It may not be nutritious, but it sure tastes good. I recently worked with some vendors from the UK, and they said their favorite part of America was the food. I imagine that when you only have it occasionally, the ingredients don't really matter that much to you. (Of course, this was food at nicer sit-down restaurants, not fast food.)
I am afraid that "most" Americans do eat that kind of food. I will, sometimes, when I'm in a real rush. But, I'd rather take the time to sit down to a meat and potato meal, sometimes rice instead of 'taters, with a veggie or two. I'm not much of a salad eater, but I'll put one away, once in awhile. I LOVE desserts - but by the time I've filled my belly with real food, there isn't much room for desserts, so my weight stays pretty stable at a mere 15 pounds over my "optimum" weight".
I will say, fast foods are addicting. The Big Mac, for instance. If I get one, I want two more. That sauce is just out of this world, I want to eat it til I burst. Sonic's french fries are the same - it's hard to stop myself placing another order once I've got the flavor in my mouth. To me, that is reason enough to avoid fast foods!
But, 30 years ago, I was addicted to Mountain Dew, too!
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Und warum glaubt deise Leute daß Hamburger Hackfleisch besonders Amerikanisch ist? Meine deutschen Vorfahren würden etwas über das zu sagen.
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This was a controlled study. They were comparing eating patterns between two otherwise identical groups where one was "threatened" and the other not.
It sounds like they're behind the curve. 3rd generation Americans like myself are just trying to eat better, not "American". There are few ethnic dishes that my parents continued to make, and none that I make myself--but I'm certainly not ashamed of them. If I had the time and enough people in my family to eat it, I'd happily make a pot of stuffed cabbage on a regular basis. Why should anybody be ashamed of that? It's so... Un-American!
I am afraid that "most" Americans do eat that kind of food. I will, sometimes, when I'm in a real rush. But, I'd rather take the time to sit down to a meat and potato meal, sometimes rice instead of 'taters, with a veggie or two. I'm not much of a salad eater, but I'll put one away, once in awhile. I LOVE desserts - but by the time I've filled my belly with real food, there isn't much room for desserts, so my weight stays pretty stable at a mere 15 pounds over my "optimum" weight".
What a great story. Please tell us more about what you like to eat, because this was so interesting my eyes are bleeding.
Seriously, if the point of the TFA is to promote more fear about eating crappy food, they should just keep the findings to themselves.
Reading this made me hungry for shitty food.
Someone flopped a steamer in the gene pool.
What a droll and uninteresting life.
... still waiting for this free-as-in-beer free beer I keep hearing about.
When an animal is threatened, it seems to make sense for it to take in extra calories, if they're available, that it can use for fight or flight. Only so many extra, or it will just want to lie down and snooze, but nature isn't usually so generous with calories for evolution to take that into account. Of course, the choice of the form those calories comes in does seem to be specific to the threat.
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When McDonald’s opened in Moscow (1990), many patrons were pleased with the _quality_ of the food.
What makes a fish and chips "northern"? It's just fried fish and potatoes, right?
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In the first 6 books of the Aeneid (often read in 4th year Latin in high school), it's foretold that Aeneas and his followers would someday be so hungry, they would eat their plates. Then later, in the second 6 books (more likely to be read in college Latin courses), their plates were all smashed, so they hit on the idea of cooking their food on dough and eating everything that way. Aeneas' son Julus, who was too young to know of the prophecy, remarked "Hey look everyone! We're eating our plates!" But everyone older didn't laugh. They remembered the prophecy and were amazed at the innocent wisdom of Divus Julus.
Don't let anyone tell you that the pizza was invented in this town or that, or at this pizzaria or that one. They're just claiming credit for what was actually a traditional dish (literally) that had been around since antiquity.
My tastes go more Tex-Mex, Indonesia, Thai, Fusion.
American, Soul, British, German and Scandinavian seem droll and uninteresting to me.
We have a very diverse group here at work. Probably about a dozen different nationalities, but the cultural divide is pretty much split along two axes:
Ominvore/Vegetarian
Drinkers/Non-Drinkers
If you make a 2x2 grid and populate it with people based on their eating and drinking habits, you'd find that members of each group don't interact much with those outside their group. And if they do, it's much more likely to be from a neighboring cell on the grid than from opposite corner
I've lived for periods of time in several asian countries. I was surprised with how some nations' people thought about food. Many times they just assumed that only their people could consume it, and that other peoples, particularly non-asian people wouldn't be able to eat it... or would get sick because their bodies were different and couldn't handle it.
For me, growing up in California, I eat everything. So for me, it's just delicious food. Often when I go to meet friends' friends or families for the first time, many would be really concerned about meeting me since "I wouldn't be able to eat", or it might make my body sick. Of course, they were always delighted to find out that I could eat their food - often better then themselves - and from that point on I was never "American"... I was one of them. The exception would be some restauranteers. Some of them would just see me as a weird American... the 'exception' to the norm.
In many countries being able to share a meal with another person is a sign of community, of belonging. It's both intimate and social. The funny thing here, though, is I bet many of the immigrants in America rarely eat with Americans... more likely they don't want to integrate with Americans, but want to look like they do.
When I started caring about my diet and wanting to improve my health, I found myself eating a lot of "Asian" and "Middle Eastern" types of food. I was a vegetarian for a while, but have since started eating meat again. The idea of trying to make vegetarian equivalents of traditional American foods often leads to some not so great results. On the other hand, there are other cultures that eat primarily vegetarian diets and have been doing so for generations. Not surprisingly, their food tastes great despite not having any meat in it.
Forget mac & cheese... give me the poutine
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That was, quite probably, the joke.
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Humans are terrible replicators of Godly things.
Sadly, they mean Kraft Dinner.
Terrance and Philip pronounce it Kroff Dinner. They should know, from the shape of their heads they are obviously Canadians from the great Northern empire of Canadia.
Man, you cannot call yourself Wyatt Earp. You can probably forget about the BLT, they pretty much suck. Ive had better Tempeh bacon BLT's. But a good gourmet mac and cheese is awesome. Theres a place in Kalispell, Montana that throws lobster in it. A burger is something that you definitely need to try. Go eat a burger at a reputable joint in Denver and you will probably want to kill yourself for never eating one. Denver has extremely good and affordable ethnic restaurants, burger joints, brat joints, and steak houses compared to anywhere else except maybe New York.
That brings me to an interesting point, / . is just "the ramblings of socially-inept, technology-literate news-mongers".
Maybe for people that never move. As someone who was born in another country then moved a lot in the USA, due to being an army brat, that does not work on me.
American is fusion. For British, try a Soul in its Coffin, Fish and Chips or a Shepherds Pie. Hell, try Bangers and Mash. You have to go to an authentic joint otherwise its all crap. For German just eat a good sausage with some saurkraut, German mustard, and German potato salad. Also, you have to go to an authentic joint otherwise its crap.
That brings me to an interesting point, / . is just "the ramblings of socially-inept, technology-literate news-mongers".
Jules: Mmm-mmmm. That is a tasty burger. Vincent, ever have a Big Kahuna Burger?
[Vincent shakes his head]
Jules: Wanna bite? They're real tasty.
Vincent: Ain't hungry.
Jules: Well, if you like burgers give 'em a try sometime. I can't usually get 'em myself because my girlfriend's a vegitarian which pretty much makes me a vegitarian. But I do love the taste of a good burger. Mm-mm-mm. You know what they call a Quarter Pounder with cheese in France?
Brett: No.
Jules: Tell 'em, Vincent.
Vincent: A Royale with cheese.
Jules: A Royale with cheese! You know why they call it that?
Brett: Because of the metric system?
Jules: Check out the big brain on Brett! You're a smart motherf*cker.
I was always underwhelmed by Denver's restaurant choices in the mid 90s when I lived in Denver compared to Portland or Seattle.
Maybe it's gotten better since '97.
Plains Indian food isn't fusion and that's American. Salmon, crab legs, fried chicken, hot wings aren't fusion either.
There are alot of invested in the US or Canada dishes that aren't "fusion".
I've eaten many tings from many countries, but natto is the one thing that I just couldn't stomach.
Seattle is pretty good for Seafood. Actually, compared to the gulf its phenomenal unless you are after river food like Crawfish or Catfish. I also ate a good Greek place up there. Denver has a really young crowd these days with a mix of food snobs, wine snobs and beer nerds so its quite a bit better. I hate snobs, but I suppose they serve a purpose.
That brings me to an interesting point, / . is just "the ramblings of socially-inept, technology-literate news-mongers".
There is a much better explanation -- immigrants would not expect that food as unhealthy as this would be allowed to be sold in the first place.
This also explains why foreign countries seem to have more corrupt governments -- in US all corruption is at the very top, and is perfectly legal.
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Seattle, especially Ballard has a good mix of different ethnic food, I've had great Sushi, Thai and seafood in Ballard.
Portland used to have some great Indonesia, not been out for that in Seattle yet.
I'm in Anchorage now, the seafood is fresher, but my heart will always been with Jakes, Jakes Grill and Riverplace in Portland.
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Some people like various genres of anime. You're making Hell look good.
the musicians are Swedish
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At least you can get good Salmon, Halibut and wild game like Reindeer, Moose, etc. My grandpa used to live up there and send down smoked, jarred or vacuumed salmon and halibut all the time. Im from Montana, and up there they used to have a huge salmon run before the Fish and Game screwed it up. See Mysis Shrimp introduction in Montana. Anymore all you can get up there is trout or deer. Nowadays it seems like Alaska (maybe Canada too) has the best frontier style food choices. I lived in Houston for the last 3 years and its pretty much worthless for food choices. Its all shit. Even the soul food is shit. You can get a decent crawfish boil, street taco, or tex-mex but otherwise you may as well cook for yourself. Moving to Denver has been a breath of fresh air. Even the cheap delivery Chinese is more interesting with fresher ingredients.
That brings me to an interesting point, / . is just "the ramblings of socially-inept, technology-literate news-mongers".
How about Pimento Cheese sandwiches? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pimento_cheese
BBQ, brunswick stew, grits to possibly name a few others.
It's hard to have "original" dishes when this country is made up of a bunch of immigrants.
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Even I don't eat American food. The "All American Diet" always seemed like a awkward social stigma and the food, in fact, looks toxic.
There's no big mystery as to why immigrants would turn to hamburgers. They are quick, cheap, and taste damn good. Mystery solved. Sometimes it's just not necessary to read more into something than is really there.
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Ever since I was a kid, I've loved Mexican and Chinese and Italian food.
Sure, I like burgers, but you say "spaghetti" or "tacos" or "kung pao" to a kid and you're getting whoops of joy. Even if it's shitty school cafeteria renditions of them.
Kids are eating burgers because it's different from what they get at home every day and they like it. End of stupid story.
Now can we get on with pointing out the inherent bigotry of constantly questioning the validity of immigration?
Living on a rez myself now I love real American food. You haven't had salmon BBQ until you've had it from net to fire in 10 minutes.
Raw whale is a bit of an acquired taste though.
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Point of origin is irrelevant for what they were studying. If it's commonly eaten in the US, then it's a US dish. Otherwise it's not.
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Some of best sushi I've ever had was in Anchorage at Yamato (across from the phone company on Telephone Avenue.) And quite the choice of places too for a town that size.
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I'm asian-american and if I filled out that form I'd be putting down hamburgers, mac and cheese, chicken pot pie, etc. down as well. Why? Because they're damn tasty that's why. I grew up eating both Chinese food and American food and in terms of which is my favorite well... My body likes calories. I don't like american culture more than anyone else, but how can you hate on ooey-gooey mac and cheese? It's pretty simple.
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if they eat hamburgers to be americans... what does this say about vegetarians? are they cow wannabies?
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Strange... I'm an American and I wasn't overweight when I was in the U.S., eating hamburgers and things... It was when I went to India for ten years, eating rich, greasy Indian foods that I ballooned out till I can't bend down to tie my shoe laces without huffing and puffing and being out of breath...
Now that I'm back in the U.S. again and eating a fairly typical American diet, I'm finally losing some of that excess poundage...
Pretty sure this idea of "eating local to fit in" is a common factor with immigrants anywhere. Matches my experience and that of my friends who are also transplants.
For anyone not familiar with a true northern fish and chips, there's a reason it's not served at any Michelin starred restaurants.
Why's that? Because the Michelin people simply don't know good food?
I sure enjoyed the fish & chips in England when I had some business trips there. I don't know northern vs. southern style, of course, but it was all delicious no matter what shape it was, whether it was on a porcelain or wrapped in newspaper...
Now I've moved to Brooklyn, New York City, and there's a British-style chippy just two blocks from my apartment... The shandy sucks, but the fish & chips with mushy peas rock!
Never have eaten a burger, BLT or mac and cheese
Not the burger, but I don't blame you for not eating the others... I've seen and smelled Mac & Cheese, and that'll never pass my lips if I can help it... Ick!
And a BLT, no, the parts might be fine, but altogether it just sounds like a bunch of incompatible components. Besides, I don't care much for lettuce.
Raw whale is a bit of an acquired taste though.
If recent events are any indication, nobody will be acquiring that taste ere long.
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I actually started eating vegetarian because it was an easy way to steer clear of fast food. At the end of a long hard day it's tough to say no, especially since I don't drink...
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Dear friends on Slashdot. All cultures past and present are a product of diversity. All notions of cultural purity are fantasy. That being said, I'm a US citizen, and I'll eat whatever the hell I want and speak whatever language I feel like. Thx
You need a 2x2 grid to work out that people with things in common congregate? Especially when it comes to food and drink at lunch time???
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When someone tells me about one I almost always trace it back to some european country.
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no, they say kraft dinner
Kraft Dinner
Growing up in middleofnowhereIndiana, I had to look up what kraft dinner was when this originally aired.
Maybe this is trolling, but it's damn funny trolling.
I live in Japan. Everybody who knows me knows that my favorite food is daifuku (sticky mochi rice with a sweet been filling). I practically yell it from the rooftops. Why? It really helps to fit in. Someone will say something like, "Let's go to the onsen (public bath)" and somebody who doesn't know me will ask, "Is he OK with the onsen". Finally another of my friends will say, "He's Japanese! He eats daifuku." Everybody will laugh and off we go to the onsen.
Because this country is so homogenous, looking different and sounding different (I still talk like a child with my lousy Japanese) makes everyone worry about you. But magically if you like the cultural food everyone is willing to overlook your differences. The US and Japan are similar in this way. While the US has people with a lot of different backgrounds, a lot is made of the great American "melting pot". There is a strong American culture and people tend to be a bit suspicious of you if they think you might not fit in. I'm sure making a big deal of liking American food helps immigrants a lot, just like it does me in Japan.
For the record, I'm a Chilean immigrant with 10 years in Silicon Valley, having visited about 28 countries and lived in 4, and I'm also a foodie.
Just based on the demographics they chose for the study, it seems to me that this particular group is still very susceptible to peer pressure. In my personal experience having a lot of Asian-American and purely Asian colleagues as well as friends in every place in the world, I have to say that when an individual no longer has the pressure to "fit" in a specific environment, and their cultural differences are just accepted by their peers, they tend to choose whatever they like, some things Asian and some things American.
Thinking people, in the right [accepting] environment, and at the right age (past the age where they are more susceptible to peer pressure) tend to develop a stronger sense of self, in many cases, becoming a trans-national, where the place where you were born no longer defines you, but you choose how to define yourself. Don't underestimate the fact that people, individuals, do grow up, change and adapt.
Food in itself is one of those amazing things that tends to mark how we see the world, and yet, once you are exposed to many different cultures, it is just natural to learn to appreciate everything and everyone. Food is one of those rare things that can unite us more than divide us.
As an Englishman who's spent the last decade in the States...
It has nothing to do with my trying to fit in and everything to do with what I can get for a decent price at a decent quality.
If I'd like Shepherd's Pie, my options are very expensive faux Irish theme pubs or lousy quality from cheap theme pubs that have once seen a picture of what a Shepherd's Pie might look like. If I'd like a proper roast with roast potatoes and Yorkshire pudding, I can go to a senior citizen trap and get decent beef, terrible fried potatoes and a look of bewilderment if I mention Yorkshire pudding. If I want a good curry (Partition and its immigrants have made it a staple in England), I can get something dire at the mall, something mediocre in my city (thank you H1Bs) but I have to (and do, regularly) drive 80 miles each way and pay about $50/person to get great baltis, kormas, etc.
Or, if I'd like pizza, I can choose from any of a dozen local pizza joints. If I'd like a burger, I can choose from any of twenty chains plus local specialty places. And Mexican offers me hundreds of hole in the wall places plus at least half a dozen major chains. I can eat at every one of those for well under $10 too.
So, yes, I eat like an American and my waist rapidly started to look like an American's too. It has nothing to do with trying to fit in and everything to do with what's available. Give me a Sainsbury's and a Tesco, a good chippy (no, those things Americans call English pub chips really aren't), a good kebab shop (gyros may start with the same ingredients but are nothing like a British kebab) and a lifetime's supply of Cadbury's, Ginsters, etc. and I'll stay the hell away from American assimilation.
I don't think it's even a national thing. Ask any Californian who'd visited what Mexican food is like in Minnesota (not unlike eating a photograph of a burrito: it looks like one but tastes like cardboard). Ask any Pennsylvanian what a cheesesteak is like in California (for the love of God, why would you put avocado and lettuce in it?). Those people will also assimilate to the good local foods rather than endure the terrible bastardizations of what they love back home. Nothing to do with fitting in, everything to do with availability.
If only there was some common saying about correllation not being equal to causation.
And now you may all proceed with the English food and dentistry jokes. You've been very patient.
whether you can enjoy root beer and twizzlers. After nearly 20 years in the US, I can eat almost anything, but why would anybody drink cough medicine and chew on tasteless bits of red plastic totally escapes me.
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Like you, I have always found it difficult to eat just one large hamburger and fries. I always had to stop eating while I was still hungry. Hamburgers and fries are one of those foods that taste too good, to where I want to just want keep eating and eating. Such meals also usually fail to satisfy my appetite and adequately maintain my energy level until the next meal.
I am better off avoiding such foods. Fortunately, my usual meals do not trigger that uncontrollable hunger and also easily satisfy my appetite until the next meal.
What works best for me is having a generous amount of cooked vegetables and sprouts and also apple or orange with my lunch and dinner. That fills me up nicely without craving more. For dinner, I typically have a very small piece of grass fed buffalo meat and some beans, along with my veggies and a piece of fruit. For lunch, I usually have a sandwich. By the way, the grass fed buffalo meat has only a small fraction of the amount of saturated fat that corn fed beef has.
The lower glycemic index foods have a more gradual slow absorption of carbohydrates, which is probably why my I no longer get hungry before my next meal. Even if a meal is delayed by several hours, I no longer get hungry (like I used to).
I have gradually lost 45 pounds over the last 5 years, without dieting or feeling hungry. I want to gradually lose a little more. In the past, I was one of those people who could not stop gaining weight every year, without feeling hungry. My energy level is also now much higher than when I was in my 20s, 30s, or 40s. I am not Asian, but for my genetics, that works best for me.
For breakfast, I usually usually have some BGLife Heart Balance hot barley cereal, which has lots of beta-glucan soluble fiber that slows the absorption of carbohydrates. It is the breakfast that seems to best control my appetite until lunch. I also throw in some frozen blueberries after I finish cooking it. But, I do allow myself to have an occasional piece of fruit between meals.
Funny, as a born and raised white American, I rarely eat American food. I probably eat primarily Italian and Middle-Eastern style food with Mexican a large part as well. I also eat Japanese and Chinese food on occasion. To me the most American diet should be multi-cultural like this, not focused on fatty-ass cheap burgers.
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I thought vegetables were considered human food.
American is fusion. For British, try a Soul in its Coffin, Fish and Chips or a Shepherds Pie.
What's a soul in its coffin? I'm British, and I've never heard of that. Neither has Google...
Fish and chips is fast food, take that instead of a hamburger, but don't bother going to a restaurant for it. Shepherd's pie is a bit boring... traditional British cooking in general is a bit boring. Bangers and mash is usually boring; is it authentically British if the potato has herbs in, the sausage doesn't have gristle and is more than 30% meat, and there is a side of, say, steamed vegetables with a garnish?
So you pressure people in a study to prove your hypothesis? Good job.
Also, as others have said, it's a tad easier to eat local food than getting your fried lion testecles, or whatever. I'll make sure I ask for a 'double down' on Mars. I'm sure they'll have it.
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What makes a fish and chips "northern"? It's just fried fish and potatoes, right?
Yes, but it's also a cheap fast food. The North is slightly poorer, but also friendlier and with smaller class differences. If I buy fish and chips from a takeaway here (as my evening meal) my friends and colleagues will think it's a bit strange -- I should know better than to eat that crap. I don't think that would be unusual in the North.
At my grandma's house (up North) she would buy fish and chips and bring them home for everyone to eat. There's no way I would do that -- if I had no time to cook I'd buy an Indian or Thai takeaway.
McDonald's is not cheap, not by any stretch of the imagination. For the cost of two medium Big Mac meals and two cheeseburger Happy Meals (approx £11) you can easily buy ingredients which will make evening meals for a good portion of the week, especially if you buy B-class or value range.
McDonald's is convenient. It saves time (which may be more valuable to the parent), but ultimately their bank account, and their child's health, suffers.
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You can make BigMac sauce at home. Mix ketchup and mayonnaise in equal quantities, then leave in an open container on a shelf for a week and a half.
N.B. This post is comical in nature, and not intended as an accurate factual description of the content or method of manufacture of BigMac sauce. GTFO, lawyer scum.
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I eat fast food all the time, I'm 5'9" and 145 pounds with nominal to low blood pressure. Quantity and exercise are important...
Hmm. Maybe its a made up dish for us locals or specific to the place I go. I go to a British style pub owned by a Brit. The "Soul in its Coffin" is some Atlantic cod in a carved out potato with a sort of cream sauce. It sounds sort of gross but it ends up being really good. Also, I love Steak and Kidney pie. Im not sure why you think Shepherds pie is boring, its a delicious hearty meal for me. Im not obsessed with British food, but its significantly better than French food in my opinion. French food tastes like creamed shit. Italian beats British, but British is definitely in the top 40 percent of good food.
That brings me to an interesting point, / . is just "the ramblings of socially-inept, technology-literate news-mongers".
The Big Mac, for instance. If I get one, I want two more.
Yeah, because you tend to shit them out almost immediately.
McDonalds is OK if you're drunk and just need to cram some grease down your neck, although personally I prefer a large doner kebab. Not if you've got a sensitive stomach though, the chilli sauce stings if you throw it up.
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You can make BigMac sauce at home. Mix ketchup and mayonnaise in equal quantities, then leave in an open container on a shelf for a week and a half. N.B. This post is comical in nature, and not intended as an accurate factual description of the content or method of manufacture of BigMac sauce. GTFO, lawyer scum.
You forgot to mention that you need to add just a dash of catsick to the mixture, to give it that certain je ne sais quoi.
To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
The Big Mac, for instance. If I get one, I want two more. That sauce is just out of this world, I want to eat it til I burst.
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Actually, it's easier than that. It's thousand-island dressing. That simple.
That like, a weight loss technique?
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Thousand island dressing IS mayo + ketchup, more or less.
Not in America...
I'm from Cheyenne River Indian Reservation in South Dakota.
Lived for a little while up at Burlington WA in '08-09, used to drive by Tulalip all the time, we'd go to movies down at Marysville for the bigger screens.
I used to think Portland and Seattle crab legs or halibut was fresh, Anchorage, Seward and Homer seafood really changed my opinion.
The "good" natto is stringy. The stuff I had wasn't vinegary at all, it simply tasted like someone had left pork and beans in the fridge during the New Orleans floods and then gone back and tried to eat them the next year.
Wait -- you can get good Yorkshire pudding in the UK? Where? Recommendations wanted...
Signed, an American who has only ever had homemade (delicious) Yorkshire pudding
Hmm. Maybe its a made up dish for us locals or specific to the place I go.
Now you mention it, it sounds a bit like it's been made up to sound extra British.
Im not sure why you think Shepherds pie is boring, its a delicious hearty meal for me.
I'm probably being a bit harsh. This recipe looks OK, but when I think of a lot of traditional British recipes I remember my parents' cooking, which in this case would be that recipe but without any of the herbs and spices (through being "too busy" to include them, usually).
BBC Good Food "British" if you're interested (BBC Good Food Magazine is generally very good for recipes).
Most of my favorite foods are vegetarians. :)
Now that I remembered, I actually misspelled that dish name. The dish was "Sole in its Coffin" but I would think if it was popular or even existed elsewhere at all it would illicit a response from you. I.e. "Fuck off, its called ______". Haha. Thanks for the recipes, I am eye-balling the Steak and Kidney pie right now. I actually like organ meat but its not something you get here outside of Mexican food. Never try menudo, ughhh. I can't cook anything worth a shit except meat on a grill, but I made sure to forward that link to my wife. I understand being bored with your own cuisine and striving for something new or more interesting, but damn, British food is better than a lot of other foods. Its sort of fattening, and a little plain, but thats sort of its charm. You don't need spices to make a dish taste good. For example, a tenderloin or ribeye steak tastes good on its own if cooked right. You don't need to throw spices all over it. In fact it detracts from its flavor. Spices mask the real flavor of things, and in that regard British food is good. French food is some combination of baked eggs, baked cheese, melted cheese, and cream sauces. Its gross. Good work Frenchies, you substitute fat for flavor. French wine sucks too BTW. Even though Italians are almost as pretentious as the French they at least can back themselves up with their food and wine.
That brings me to an interesting point, / . is just "the ramblings of socially-inept, technology-literate news-mongers".
Excuse my poor english, but, isn't that anthropophagy?
Not in this case. I prefer to consume the vegetarians a little lower on the food chain.