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Using Old Linksys Routers to Control BBQ Smokers

mache writes "It's scary when you find two completely unrelated areas that you are passionate about merged. It happened to me with BBQ and hacking home network infrastructure. People have taken old Linksys WRT54G (and their derivatives) routers and made them into automatic temperature controllers for BBQ smokers. They support Wi-Fi and even have a web browser to monitor progress."

118 comments

  1. Sir, by pak9rabid · · Score: 3, Funny

    I like the cut of your gib.

    1. Re:Sir, by sharkey · · Score: 2

      I'm more interested in the giblets, to be totally honest.

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    2. Re:Sir, by Roachie · · Score: 1

      That's what she said.

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  2. Feature set by Jon+Abbott · · Score: 5, Funny

    Do these routers support Quality of Smoke? Pulled Pork Tunneling Protocol?

    1. Re:Feature set by metalgamer84 · · Score: 1

      Don't forget Virtual Pork Network.

    2. Re:Feature set by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, but they can use smokeping.

    3. Re:Feature set by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It certainly gives a Link 2 The Pork.

    4. Re:Feature set by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      or Highly tenderised and toasted pork or succulently marinaded tender pork

    5. Re:Feature set by TrisexualPuppy · · Score: 2

      or Fire Torched Pork

      ...wait a sec

    6. Re:Feature set by rrhal · · Score: 2
      I believe that's Succulent Naturally Marinaded Pork

      Better let me investigate those Objects Infinately Delectable; it might be a trap.

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    7. Re:Feature set by formfeed · · Score: 1

      Do these routers support Quality of Smoke? Pulled Pork Tunneling Protocol?

      Yes even Teriyaki Finished Tender Pork, but you better have a good firewall in place.

      The WRT 54 Grillmaster used to be popular for these kind of projects, but because of hardware changes, with new models you now can only use the WRT 54 Grillmaster Lardass, which is kind of overpriced.
      If you buy new, it is cheaper to use the WL-520 Grillmaster Unlimited, which also extra Unhealthy Smoker Barbecue support.

    8. Re:Feature set by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't forget about that old favorite... Seared Scrotum of Hog

  3. Old Linksys Gear Sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    I use to use my Linksys Wireless router as a paper weight but it couldn't even manage that, the paper magically gained the ability to defy gravity and rose to the roof. I pretty much had the same level of experience when I used it as a wireless router, if that's what you even call a device which drops connections and freezes every other minute.

    1. Re:Old Linksys Gear Sucks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With OpenWrt, the only limitation on my v5 was the paltry size of the flash chip. I even made it support IPv6. DD-WRT was usable on 2MB devices, tho it was a shitty experience.

    2. Re:Old Linksys Gear Sucks by Hatta · · Score: 1

      If you flash it with custom firmware it makes a fine paperweight. I pretty much never have to reboot mine.

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    3. Re:Old Linksys Gear Sucks by WrongSizeGlass · · Score: 1

      I use to use my Linksys Wireless router as a paper weight

      One of my cats used mine as a litter box. Needless to say they dropped more than a connection.

    4. Re:Old Linksys Gear Sucks by toonces33 · · Score: 1

      Have you been able to program the thing so that it empties itself after the cats are done? It would be especially nice if it could empty itself wirelessly - perhaps sending the "contents" to the inbox of some poor unsuspecting soul on AOL.

  4. I tried this years ago with RFC 1149 by Quato · · Score: 4, Funny

    I tried this years ago with RFC 1149. I had to abandon my project, the smell of delicious smoked meat attracted hawks, which kept catching all the pigeons.

    1. Re:I tried this years ago with RFC 1149 by queBurro · · Score: 0

      how many Mega pigeons per second were you getting? what's the... "bird" rate?

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  5. Awesomeness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's just Brilliance of Green (recycling)!!!
    Bravo!

    1. Re:Awesomeness by flaming+error · · Score: 2

      Reusing, actually, which is better. But given that its new purpose is to make smoke, I'm not sure this is an environmentalist's dream application. Not all Green, sort of green and brown. Like avocado and bacon. Mmm, bacon.

    2. Re:Awesomeness by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 1

      For health reasons I use artificial avocado made from more bacon. The sandwich shop down the block from my house (noblepigaustin.com) use both crispy bacon and what they call "house bacon" which is a thick slab of smoked pork. Their namesake sandwich includes ham, pulled pork and bacon. Maybe this project will interest them in providing WiFi, so I can surf the web while eating bacon.

    3. Re:Awesomeness by mordred99 · · Score: 1

      Not to be technical, but if this thing works by reducing the amount of time cooking, smoke, and all the other efficiencies gained in the process that was already going to be done by the cook, that is a green initiative. Going overboard is what gives environmentalism a bad name.

  6. Old? by barlevg · · Score: 1

    I just bought one brand new about two weeks ago. Don't have any laptops that support Wireless-N, it works really well with dd-wrt, and it was on sale. The way the article is talking about them makes them sound like they're ancient and outdated tech.

    1. Re:Old? by metalgamer84 · · Score: 1

      None of the WRT54G models support 802.11n. Going to go out on a limb here and say you have no idea what you have.

    2. Re:Old? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cutting the limb of so you fall to the ground. He bought a 54G because his laptops don't support N either so he doesn't need it. Just a guess though.

    3. Re:Old? by metalgamer84 · · Score: 1

      Guess I read that wrong then, I thought he meant he bought a router that had N but none of his laptops supported it.

    4. Re:Old? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WRT54GLs are still quite popular for use with DD-WRT and other 3rd party firmwares. They are the last of the mainstream Linksys routers to support replacable antennas. Very easy to flash any of the 3rd party firmware packages you might want on to and quite reliable.

      Place I work at will keep selling WRT54GLs as long as Linksys makes them, there are many times when their flexiblity has proven to be better than any of the N routers. There are several other routers that support various 3rd party firmware but we haven't seen anything else that does so as solidly as the GL.

    5. Re:Old? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm going to go a bit further out on the limb and say that you have no idea what he was talking about.

      The gentleman plainly said that he bought a Linksys and it works fine for him because he has NO need for Wireless-N. It's right here: "Don't have any laptops that support Wireless-N"

    6. Re:Old? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He was saying that he doesn't have any laptops that use Wireless-N, and so he has no use for a router that supports it. Combining that with the fact that the 54G supports dd-wrt perfectly meant that it was a great choice for his needs especially considering it was on sale, and therefor cheap compared to a new Wireless-N router. So he got what he needed and saved money. He is arguing that they're not old, when they really are, but they're still useful.

    7. Re:Old? by jojoba_oil · · Score: 1

      There are several other routers that support various 3rd party firmware but we haven't seen anything else that does so as solidly as the GL.

      I think you have that backward. The hardware doesn't support any 3rd-party firmware. The 3rd-party firmware supports the GL hardware. The reasons that so many firmwares support the GL is probably due to its cheap cost and wide distribution.

    8. Re:Old? by Fieryphoenix · · Score: 1

      The reason so many firmwares support the GL is because the manufacturer firmware they are based on was open source.

  7. Missing the point by OhHellWithIt · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It seems to me that automating the operation of the BBQ is a Bad Thing as it eliminates the excuse that one needs to be out back drinking because the fire must be tended.

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    1. Re:Missing the point by MonsterTrimble · · Score: 2

      When one is smoking meat, opening the cover to check on the meat is the last thing you wish to do. This lets heat, smoke and moisture out.

      Totally with you on the drinking though.

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    2. Re:Missing the point by lostfayth · · Score: 1

      Not all of us use computers (or smartphones) that are impossible to bring into the backyard.

      It facilitates the drinking, as you don't need to watch the temperatures so closely.

    3. Re:Missing the point by es330td · · Score: 1

      I do brisket cooks on my Big Green Egg that require me to get up periodically throughout the night. I have a WRT54G I am not using that I will be converting to a BBQ controller posthaste.

    4. Re:Missing the point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have a BGE as well. But really now, you can go buy a wireless meat thermometer almost anywhere. Just put the display next to your bed. Most all of them also include an alarm.

    5. Re:Missing the point by FatAlb3rt · · Score: 1

      Check the meat? Nah, you gotta be there to monitor the temperature. That doesn't require opening the pit.

    6. Re:Missing the point by cayenne8 · · Score: 1

      When one is smoking meat, opening the cover to check on the meat is the last thing you wish to do. This lets heat, smoke and moisture out.

      Well, this is 100% true for a bullet type smoker, but not so much for indirect heat smokers. With indirect smokers with an offset firebox...you actually DO want to check your meat about hourly...to 'mop' or baste the meat as it goes. And wood is usually added in 1 - 1.5 hourly rates.

      This weekend, I did a 13.5 lb beef brisket and 2x racks of spare ribs on my bandera style smoker...I like to actually do my mop in a spray bottle and whenever I check the fire, I also open the smoke chamber and spritz the meats. That stuff sure came out tasty!!!

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    7. Re:Missing the point by demonlapin · · Score: 1

      Unless you're a hardcore maker type who will derive pleasure from building this, just go buy a Stoker, BBQ Guru, or similar product. It's not cheap, but if you can afford a BGE, you can afford them. Total fire control, and a few guys I know who have them will completely entrust them with a brisket overnight.

    8. Re:Missing the point by slacktheplanet · · Score: 0

      I do brisket cooks on my Big Green Egg that require me to get up periodically throughout the night. I have a WRT54G I am not using that I will be converting to a BBQ controller posthaste.

      I think this article is neglecting to mention that it also has a fan to maintain the temp inside of your smoker.

        I also have a BGE, which works incredibly well. But when I smoke a brisket, I still have to go out every couple of hours to make sure the temp is still good and that I do not need to add more fuel. I have a wireless probe thermometer that I can watch from anywhere in the house, but that doesn't help me to know that the fuel is spent.

      They have commercially built things like this available (https://www.rocksbarbque.com), but that doesn't have the cool factor that one of these would have among my friends.

    9. Re:Missing the point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Check the meat? Nah, you gotta be there to monitor the temperature. That doesn't require opening the pit.

      Second this!

    10. Re:Missing the point by bryansj · · Score: 1

      Why would you be checking fuel in a BGE? Do you have a small or mini? My large BGE can go over 20 hours on a load of lump at around 250F. Before I got my Stoker I would get it stable at my target temperature. Then before bed I'd go out and open the bottom vent a small bit. I'd rather it creep up than down during the night and that usually worked very well. I'd also have the Maverick ET73 to check the temperatures, however running out of fuel was never a concern.

    11. Re:Missing the point by shoehornjob · · Score: 1

      It seems to me that automating the operation of the BBQ is a Bad Thing as it eliminates the excuse that one needs to be out back drinking because the fire must be tended.

      What he said is the very foundation of why men BBQ. It's a neat homebrew tech project and I even entertained the idea till you set me straight. Heck if the menfolk were not out in the backyard tending the fire the women would pull out the honeydo list. Those of us geeks that are married have firsthand knowlege of the terrible thing that is the honeydo list. The wives should NEVER have knowledge of this contraption as it would result in no beer drinking and tons of excess work.

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    12. Re:Missing the point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think quite the opposite, it leaves more time for drinking since the BBQ can now take care of itself and alert you and the other drinkers of when it is ready.

      Nunc Est Bibendum!

    13. Re:Missing the point by QuantumRiff · · Score: 1

      Thats why I have a wireless thermometer that allows me to stray from the BBQ, but sadly, oh so sadly, not into the house.. Nope, gotta hang out by the shop where the BBQ is, and the fridge with beer.. bummer..

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    14. Re:Missing the point by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      You need an excuse for drinking? Shit.

    15. Re:Missing the point by RoFLKOPTr · · Score: 1

      It seems to me that automating the operation of the BBQ is a Bad Thing as it eliminates the excuse that one needs to be out back drinking because the fire must be tended.

      This is also why any respectable recipe that requires beer will ask for one bottle + one tablespoon.

    16. Re:Missing the point by OhHellWithIt · · Score: 1

      You need an excuse for drinking? Shit.

      No, my wife needs an excuse for me drinking.

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  8. Only one firmware will work in this application by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tomato is the only firmware that wont clash with the flavor of BBQ.

    DD-WRT, though more feature rich, tastes like shit.

    1. Re:Only one firmware will work in this application by unitron · · Score: 1

      I'm guessing you're from the *other* end of North Carolina.

      Over towards the coast we save them for salads and use vinegar on the pig.

      And you got to my pun before I did.

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  9. pwning by Ukab+the+Great · · Score: 2

    Not only can Anonymous cause multimillion dollar embarrassment to fortune 500 companies, but now they can ruin a perfectly good batch of jerky.

    1. Re:pwning by SnarfQuest · · Score: 2

      Would people dislike Anonymous more if they messed up their own jerky, verses a large manufacture of jerky?

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  10. Control smokers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    Why don't they just ban tobacco altogether?

    1. Re:Control smokers by Dogtanian · · Score: 1

      Why don't they just ban tobacco altogether?

      And the "whoooooooooosh" going over the head of the clueless twonk who modded this obvious joke as a "troll" blows his barbecue over.... :-)

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  11. My god by dreemernj · · Score: 3

    I don't know what's more beautiful, the finished product or the documentation they put together on that forum.

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  12. Idle? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Why on earth is this under idle? Isn't this the type of thing that everyone on here cries about not being on Slashdot?

    1. Re:Idle? by ColdWetDog · · Score: 5, Funny

      Why on earth is this under idle? Isn't this the type of thing that everyone on here cries about not being on Slashdot?

      We're talking about Barbecue here son. This is serious. Now, run along and go bother somebody's cable modem, kid.

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    2. Re:Idle? by Osgeld · · Score: 1

      temperature controlled fan ... amazing!

  13. Geeks and BBQ by linuxwrangler · · Score: 1

    For some reason exotic BBQ seems to attract geeks. It seems that a lot of the people who hang out on the Komodo Kamado forum are IT/math/... types. So of course there is discussion of homebrew controllers.
    http://komodokamado.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=4126

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    1. Re:Geeks and BBQ by somersault · · Score: 3, Insightful

      BBQ attracts life.

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    2. Re:Geeks and BBQ by ColdWetDog · · Score: 0

      BBQ attracts life.

      Not sure how this is a valid comment on Slashdot since we're mostly running away from it here.

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    3. Re:Geeks and BBQ by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 1

      Can anyone explain to me the 10,000' view of how this works? Does the fan blow on the coals? Does it pull excess heat out the top?

      And this isn't just simple 'set point' bang bag controllers. This is PID control, which .... that's a damn small subset of engineers that actually get it. Ooo, this is getting me all excited. I'd love to just ID the model. Simple sine sweep identification. Well then I guess you have 'degradation factor' as your fuel runs low. And of course you're going to need to model in the energy density of your fuel source.

      Let me open simulink. Just a minute boss I promise I'll have your stuff by tomorrow.

    4. Re:Geeks and BBQ by bryansj · · Score: 1

      You hook a blower to the bottom "intake" of the smoker and you put a temperature probe at the grid where the meat is located. The controller turns the blower on to force air into the smoker which feeds the fire making it hotter. Once the probe reads the target temperature it shuts off the blower until the probe reading is below the target.

    5. Re:Geeks and BBQ by DarkOx · · Score: 1

      I don't think its BBQ specifically so much as cooking in general. Cooking is actually a technical process after all and learning it offers a nice effort / reward pattern that tends draw people in.

      Chemistry and Physics play a large part in cooking. There is tons of opportunity to experiment and solve problems around maintain conditions and generating reactions and effects you want. Its pretty much the things geeks like doing most and after that the reward comes in that you get it eat it!

      Food is probably the most basic driver and behavior enforce in minds so cooks a notice positive feeback echo chamber

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    6. Re:Geeks and BBQ by somersault · · Score: 1

      I didn't mean social life. I just meant all living things are attracted to BBQ. I bet even vegetarians enjoy BBQing up some plants. BBQ itself involves death of course. Tasty, tasty death.

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    7. Re:Geeks and BBQ by afidel · · Score: 1

      You know, you would think that's all true, and it applies to homebrewing as well which is also a fairly common geek hobby, but it doesn't explain why baking is fairly ignored by the geek set. Afterall baking might be one of the finest examples of applied chemistry there is, but I don't know too many geeks that are big into baking. Perhaps it's the risk vs reward threshold, if you're off by much in baking you tend to get an inedible result whereas with homebrewing or BBQing even when it's bad it's still pretty darn good.

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    8. Re:Geeks and BBQ by coronaride · · Score: 1

      My brother and law and I are both geek-types and we love baking (as well as homebrewing). In fact, homebrewing isn't all that far different of a process than baking, when you get down to the fundamentals. Bread - and grains, in general - is a wonderful, wonderful thing, and there's nothing more satisfying...you're right, it's surprising that more people don't geek out on it, because, what with the yeast, the gluten formation, balancing pH, there's plenty to geek out on.

      Oh, and by the way, the further along you get with homebrewing, the wider the window of catastrophe for bad beer...there's some pretty bad funk that can occur if some rogue bacteria gets in...then again, some people like that.

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  14. Hmmm by Mister+Whirly · · Score: 1

    Not that this isn't a sort of cool hack, but don't wireless food thermometer/probes already exist for this exact purpose? Is using your old router to accomplish the same thing really any better? I know we are nerds, but not having to install packages with dependencies and such to accomplish a simple task seems real appealing to me at times...

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    1. Re:Hmmm by gregulator · · Score: 1

      Yes, wireless fan ctronllers for BBQ do already exist. But it can be more complicated than if temp X then power fan on.

      They can do temp curves, different speeds, and even have it run at this temp for X minutes then raise to temp Y then keep warm at temp Z

    2. Re:Hmmm by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 1

      I grill/BBQ a lot. I've tried many brands of wireless thermometers over the last few years. None have lasted more than about 4 uses. The cheap thermocouples start giving wildly incorrect temps (I know the meat doesn't go to 467F in 3 minutes). or they just stop working altogether.

      Anyone have a recommendation on a good one that lasts more than a couple of times? Price not an issue, within reason of course.

    3. Re:Hmmm by teaserX · · Score: 5, Insightful

      ...but don't wireless food thermometer/probes already exist for this exact purpose?

      1. They are not used for an unintended purpose.
      2. They do not require soldering.
      3. They do not run linux.

      For more on why this is relevant here refer to your Slashdot handbook.

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    4. Re:Hmmm by Willuz · · Score: 1

      There are also a lot more tools written for the existing temp controllers. I use a Stoker and control it via wireless from a computer using Stoker Log. This automatically graphs the entire cook process, then I add comments and save the info for the next time I cook the same thing. Even more awesome is that it can send Tweets to update the status and I can check on it and change the temperature using my phone while I'm at work or out picking up more beer for the BBQ. When I used to run the smoker overnight on a 14 hour cook I got very restless sleep because I was always worried about the smoker. Now I just leave my TV on in the bedroom and all the temperatures and status are displayed at a glance. Plus it has an audible alarm through the TV so it will wake me up if the fire is dying out or food is done.

    5. Re:Hmmm by Grand · · Score: 1

      Maverick et-73. Best wireless thermometer out there.

    6. Re:Hmmm by bryansj · · Score: 1

      I'd say that the Maverick ET-732 is better.

    7. Re:Hmmm by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...but don't wireless food thermometer/probes already exist for this exact purpose?

      1. They are not used for an unintended purpose.

      2. They do not require soldering.

      3. They do not run linux.

      For more on why this is relevant here refer to your Slashdot handbook.

      Also, they passively monitor temps while this actively controls airflow to raise/lower grill (aka cooking vessel) temperatures. Considering that smoking meats could take 3 to 20 hours, being web enabled means you can check progress from wherever you can get internet access. Of course, the article does point out there are commercial options; that on its own is not a reason not to do it, since they are pricier, less customizable, etc.

    8. Re:Hmmm by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 1

      Maverick is probably the only (reasonable) brand I haven't tried yet. Ordering one tomorrow.

  15. so now hackers can burn the gill down by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    so now hackers can burn the BBQ down

  16. Why forums suck for documentation by OverlordQ · · Score: 2

    A mismash of old and possibly current information split up over 20 posts on a dozen pages with disclaimers of "This is old, dont use it, but here it is anyways" interspersed with links to other posts that may or may not work anymore.

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    1. Re:Why forums suck for documentation by royallthefourth · · Score: 1

      Then offer him a website if you really like the project and have the knowhow. Different people have their own skills and concerns, and his main interest is running the smoker rather than taking the effort to maintain a website on the project (which can easily turn into a big project itself).

  17. Horrible thought... by Dogtanian · · Score: 3, Funny

    If it crashes, does it turn your barbecue into a literal firewall?

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    1. Re:Horrible thought... by metrometro · · Score: 1

      ^ For the win.

  18. OMGWTFBBQ by SIGBUS · · Score: 1

    The WRT54G started going downhill when they started reducing the amount of flash and switched to VxWorks. On the other hand, my WRT54Gv2 (flashed with DD-WRT) has been rock solid. I recently tried replacing it with a Buffalo WZR-HP-G300NH (flashed with the Buffalo-branded DD-WRT), but wound up going back to the old Linksys, as the new router kept dropping the wireless connection for no apparent reason As it turns out, that's a known problem with the WZR.

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    1. Re:OMGWTFBBQ by Sxooter · · Score: 1

      Had the same problem with a WZR. Replaced it with a Netgear WNR3500L and it's been rock solid and fast.

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    2. Re:OMGWTFBBQ by RoFLKOPTr · · Score: 1

      You should try a WRT160N. I got one of those after trying and failing to get 3 old WRT54Gv6's to run DD-WRT properly and with some amount of stability. My WRT160N has been rock-solid. Time since my last power outage:

      Firmware: DD-WRT v24-sp2 (12/19/10) mini
      Time: 23:27:12 up 38 days, 6:08, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00

  19. Browser? by Yvan256 · · Score: 2

    Don't you mean Web server?

    1. Re:Browser? by ShaunC · · Score: 2

      Don't you mean Weber server?

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  20. New Project for this Weekend by RapidEye · · Score: 1

    Awesome!
    I smoke stuff about once a month and this will really save me some time and effort.
    Especially when doing a big cut like a brisket or a whole turkey.

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  21. boundary dissolution is psychedelic by brilanon · · Score: 1

    "It's scary when you find two completely unrelated areas that you are passionate about merged."

    But also mind-expanding

  22. Check out The Stoker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Rock's BBQ has been making the Linux-based Stoker for years.

  23. My bigger problem is that... by Jozza+The+Wick · · Score: 1

    I'm still using my WRT54G to in my home network. What am I missing? I don't do much intra-network data transfer, and my bottleneck is my cable connection rather than the router itself... it is worth upgrading?

    1. Re:My bigger problem is that... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What you are missing...

      1. Try reading ALL the posts prior to yours. Now UNDERSTAND all the posts prior to yours.
      2. This router has been the joke of the IT community for years, due to a lack in security, cronic issues with dropped calls, and reliability.
      3. Is it worth upgrading? Not sure if anyone that sees no issues with using that antique piece of shit router would understand the difference between their current piece of shit, and something worth having.

      My daughter called me the other day, and asked me my opinion on routers to buy. She was at the store, and said "well, they have a Linksys, but fuck that piece of shit... how about a Netgear? Model such and such..." SHE knew the entire BRAND was shit, not just that model, and she's only 22...

  24. The alternative to DIY is the Stoker by bryansj · · Score: 2

    This is a DIY version of the Stoker from Rock's Barbeque (https://www.rocksbarbque.com/). It costs $340 to get the basics, pit thermometer, food thermometer, and fan. So add up the DIY costs and you could see some savings if your time is of no value or you just love doing things like this. I purchased the Stoker before its WiFi version was announced. I found a cheap WiFi adapter and hooked it up the the Stoker's Ethernet port. Once connected you can monitor your pit and food temperatures and control the pit temperature using any web browser and/or a program called StokerLog. If you really wanted to you can access it via telnet and do the same things. My Stoker keeps my large Big Green Egg to with +/- 3 degrees of my pit probe target over what is usually a 16 hour cook. Using my iPhone I'm able to check the food probe temperature and if needed change the target pit temperature, all from anywhere I have data access. With StokerLog running on my laptop it will create a graph of your cook showing the temp probe temperatures and fan power cycles over time. It also has open lid detection where it will pause the temperature control until you close the lid and the smoker stabilizes, not that you should be opening the lid during the cook. The main point of the ATCs is to give a steady pit temperature and allow you to get some sleep during the overnight cooks.

    1. Re:The alternative to DIY is the Stoker by SnarfQuest · · Score: 1

      You know, you could just save all that money, and run over to Bobs BBQ Shack and pick up what you want ready made. Instead of having your robot make it, and blaiming all the burnt bits onyour stupid robot, you could blaim it on Bob instead.

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    2. Re:The alternative to DIY is the Stoker by bryansj · · Score: 1

      Bob's BBQ Shack is too far away from where I live. My Stoker would pay for itself in a single meal considering the airfare cost from ATL to NY.

    3. Re:The alternative to DIY is the Stoker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yup... I've got a Stoker as well on my Big Green Egg. This year for my annual 4th of July BBQ, the Stoker was sending twitter status updates for the first time: http://twitter.com/#!/TuckerBBQ

    4. Re:The alternative to DIY is the Stoker by slacktheplanet · · Score: 0

      No one should ever go to NY for BBQ. Especially if you're already in the South.

    5. Re:The alternative to DIY is the Stoker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I created the HeaterMeter controller that is the heart of the LinkMeter system and am the ongoing writer of the software running on the router. I had wanted a Stoker for a while but the high price tag made me apprehensive and the problem of having both a stoker unit and a wireless AP on my grill table and two wallwarts seemed like just too much equipment. I also looked at ethernet-to-wifi adapters but at the time didn't see any that were very cheap. The original HeaterMeter costs about $200 in parts, includes a wifi web server, and measured around 4"x3"x1.5". The problem was that it didn't have enough memory to be able to generate a graph. Even with attached SPI flash, the limited RAM made serving even log data difficult and clunky.

      I conjectured that one could probably use a DD-WRT router to provide the needed horsepower to store and serve the graph data, and do it at a lower price point than the original system and Ed was off to the races. We've both built prototype hardware and the software development is in full speed (well, full speed for someone who is working 50 hours a week). That's sort of the reason the documentation is a little all over the place-- it hasn't been exactly nailed down yet.

      Anyway the basics are there, tight temperature control via the internal "Arduino" controller with lid detect and overshoot prevention, but with the added bonus of having the graphs built in to the system (no StokerLog external app needed. The original HeaterMeter used external apps to generate graphs). It also has a slicker web interface, security that isn't based solely on subnet, log downloads, history storage, and the ability to be an access point as well as just a client.

      Once the hardware is finalized we'll also be providing schematics and board files and maybe PCBs and kits. The electronics can be assembled (from PCB) in under an hour by anyone with basic soldering skills.

  25. Sausage Linksys by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This thing was smokin' when I bought it.

  26. Missing control of an equally important piece! by speed_rrracer · · Score: 1

    Heat is important to control, no question, but just as important is the smoke! How can I control / detect smoke density automatically?

  27. Homebrewing, Too by Cpt_Kirks · · Score: 1

    There is a similar project using these and other routers for remote monitoring of the Homebrewing process. Can't find the damn link...

    1. Re:Homebrewing, Too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Could handle using one of these on my still too. A good neutral run on my 60" LM bokakob can take 17 hours...

  28. My WRT54G v2 is still in full service by Sunshinerat · · Score: 1

    Am I the only one who still has his WRT54G v2 in full service?
    Its no longer a router, just an wireless access point and it runs dd-wrt.
    Nevertheless, it is probably the only 9 year old device still in active duty without any problems.

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    1. Re:My WRT54G v2 is still in full service by jjthegreat · · Score: 1

      Nope. Same device, same hardware revision. Probably the most reliable thing in my basement. I use it for the decent QOS, bandwith history and as a failover WAP in case my wireless N unit loses power for whatever reason. I can't imagine tearing it apart to add IO headers for this kind of project though.

    2. Re:My WRT54G v2 is still in full service by SpiceInvaders · · Score: 1

      Am I the only one who still has his WRT54G v2 in full service? Its no longer a router, just an wireless access point and it runs dd-wrt. Nevertheless, it is probably the only 9 year old device still in active duty without any problems.

      Up until 2008 or thereabouts when I upgraded from DSL to FiOS and 10Mbps ethernet became a bottleneck, my home firewall was running on a Sun SPARCstation LX c.1992. Never gave me any problems and it was probably 16 years old when I retired it. Haven't powered it up since then but I suspect it would still run.

    3. Re:My WRT54G v2 is still in full service by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hear Hear! I have had two of these running dd-wrt that act as a wds bridge from my house to my brother's house for almost 3 years. One of them resides in a modified 5 gallon water jug on my roof and the other is in a garbage bag stapled to a fencepost in his yard. Last winter, during a particularly nasty storm, his ended up falling off the post into a snowbank. after a few hours of wondering why his game ping times were a little higher than usual he went to have a look and found the router sitting in a crevasse it had dug itself with the heat from the unit. The garbage bag had an inch of water at the bottom, in which the router was happily chugging packets along despite mother nature's best efforts to kill it. He unplugged the router (safety first y'know) wrapped it up in a new garbage bag and re-stapled it to the post. I have since moved but I am fairly certain it is still sitting there doing its thankless job.

      cockroaches and old linksys routers will be the only things left after the next nuclear exchange.

    4. Re:My WRT54G v2 is still in full service by mjwx · · Score: 1

      Am I the only one who still has his WRT54G v2 in full service?

      Nope, I still have mine (GL variant) in service doing it's original intended job. I've replaced the ADSL modem with a newer Billion model but ended up putting the WRT54G back into service because it was that much more reliable.

      Mine's only 4 years old though.

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    5. Re:My WRT54G v2 is still in full service by unitron · · Score: 1

      I'm using one right now to connect my TiVos and their computer to a BEFSR41 that's connected to my cable modem.

      Both, along with another 41, are currently still running stock software, but I've put old 486-era type CPU fans in each, and that makes a world of difference in reliability/uptime/etc.

      My first 54G, a v2.2, is set to one side at the moment, waiting for me to get around to replacing the stock software so I can use it in bridge mode with some of the TiVos to free up USB wi-fi adapters.

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    6. Re:My WRT54G v2 is still in full service by fajmoh · · Score: 1

      Am I the only one who still has his WRT54G v2 in full service? Its no longer a router, just an wireless access point and it runs dd-wrt. Nevertheless, it is probably the only 9 year old device still in active duty without any problems.

      54Mbps ought to be enough for anybody?

    7. Re:My WRT54G v2 is still in full service by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've still got a v1.1 running Tomato in service as my wifi router, runs like a charm, though I did have to replace the PSU earlier this year.

      I've thought about replacing it for something with a USB so I could add USB stick and run a torrent client on the router, but never got round to it mostly because the times I looked I couldn't find anything suitable at a price I wanted to pay, and other that that my trusty WRT54G does everything I need since I don't have anything using 802.11n at the moment.

    8. Re:My WRT54G v2 is still in full service by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yes

  29. I build mine for Safety and the learning exp. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I made my Heatermeter, Because I wanted a cheaper controller that I could monitor from the internet. My primary reason was for SAFETY and to learn something new. I learned to solder better, learned how to program(some), learned Eagle Cad to be able to make my own PCB's. I learned a few other things along the way and I also burned a few routers along the way, lol. I had fun. At first I was not happy about the change to OpenWRT, but now I can see why, as it is so much easier for someone like me to be able to build something like this and not have to worry about configuring everything yourself and I dont need to add the SD card atm. The thread needs somethings removed(DD-wrt) but, its not hard to follow, even someone with very little knowledge like myself was able to follow it and build a working router BBQ controller

    I have something, that I had not had before, and thats the satisfaction of building something that does something better then what I could have bought for 500 dollars of the internet.

  30. Yea, I built one.. by Roachie · · Score: 1

    And the damn fire kept going out, then it would come back for a minute, then it would go out...

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  31. OMGWIFIBBQ by dn15 · · Score: 1

    n/t

  32. Since I have that model router laying around... by seandiggity · · Score: 1

    ...I may see how this can be applied to brewing beer. Been looking for a cheap temp control for a while.

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  33. Careful.... by jimrab · · Score: 1

    I am fairly certain Apple has the patent on this.....