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China Says Its Internet Policies Are Open and Clear
itwbennett writes "Responding to a U.S. request to explain China's policies regarding blocking U.S. websites, China's foreign ministry said the country's Internet policies have been open and clear. 'The Chinese government encourages and actively supports the Internet's development and we also protect the freedom of expression of citizens in China,' said Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Jiang Yu. 'We welcome foreign companies to invest and develop here, and we will continue to foster an open policy market.' The request, filed under World Trade Organization rules, is an effort to understand the trade impact of such blocking after a number of U.S. businesses have made complaints about access to their websites in China."
Act first, apologize later is how that regime acts! They're pathetic.
Bullshit.
This morning that crazy Italian MP and now this, what the fuck is going on today with the world ???
and we also protect the freedom of expression of citizens in China
I can't even come up with a response to this.
Don't be mistaken. It's the policy that is open, this says nothing about the Internet. The policy of censorship can openly the non-openness of the Internet.
In other news the United States claims it is still the land of the free.
I'm sure this "freedom of expression" includes all Chinese citizens' right and ability to comment on Tiananmen Square. Oh wait, you'd actually need to *know* about Tiananmen Square to express how you feel about it. Seems to me freedom of expression is hollow and meaningless without a the ability to freely get at any information you want. But that's me, I guess.
The Chinese people and government have made the decision that they do not have western style freedoms such as free speech.
Actually, the Chinese people demanded those Human -- not just "Western" -- rights in Tiananmen Square in 1989. The Government sent tanks against them. Best guesses are that at least 3,000 people were murdered.
It concerns me. This is my business. All men are brothers. Those men were my brothers. Those three thousand martyrs in the cause of Freedom are "Americans" in the truest sense and finest traditions of the word. I stand ashamed that MY government has forgotten them and betrayed their sacrifice.
He put his boots up on the table and made a face. "The sig," he smirked. "You can waste your life in search of the sig."
Would you tell us your name?
"Responding to a U.S. request to explain China's policies regarding blocking U.S. websites, China's foreign ministry said the country's Internet policies have been open and clear. '
It's open and clear that if you speak up against the Chinese government, a Party member, or a western multinational, you will be imprisoned. If you persist, you will die, the family will be billed for the execution(whether by bullet or execution truck), with possible harvesting of organs.
The Chinese government encourages and actively supports the Internet's development and we also protect the freedom of expression of citizens in China,' said Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Jiang Yu.
Only if it doesnt interfere with Articles 54 and 55 of the
PRC's Constitution. Then those technologies are used to bring people into compliance by force.
'We welcome foreign companies to invest and develop here, and we will continue to foster an open policy market.'
Only if they allow China's home market to copy the foreign technology or use it to more efficiently put down dissidents.
(Before you wish to mod me into oblivion, consider the actions that China has done - instead of stating that I dont understand.)
Twitter supports and protects racists - by smearing their critics with the "Hate Speech" label.
There factories are like the very OLD US with no safety, have to pay for on site room and board, working off the clock, and other stuff.
Before an apologist comes in:
This applies if you attempt to form a Tea Party or Occupy Wall Street gathering.
This applies if you use the law against a multinational where you have overwhelming evidence that you will win.
This applies if you look at a Party official the wrong way.
Twitter supports and protects racists - by smearing their critics with the "Hate Speech" label.
Can they be open about there high speed rail system?
What about the full report on that high-speed train crash?
War is Peace,
Freedom is Slavery!
Chinas' internet policies *are* open and clear! They are very open with their policies, and very clear with their policies!
Eg: Its very clear that they will block any sites they deem detrimental to the communist party, the state, the army or anything else they deem inappropriate. They are quite open with this policy. They will tell anyone who asks, and will even inform people who didn't ask. Its their *internet* that isn't open or clear, but their *internet policies* are very open and clear. Call it semantics if you like, or even pedantic, but its true. I have every expectation that is exactly what they meant.
Article 54. It is the duty of citizens of the People's Republic of China to safeguard the security, honour and interests of the motherland; they must not commit acts detrimental to the security, honour and interests of the motherland.
Article 55. It is the sacred obligation of every citizen of the People's Republic of China to defend the motherland and resist aggression. It is the honourable duty of citizens of the People's Republic of China to perform military service and join the militia in accordance with the law.
Imagine the Patriot Act on a massive dose of despotic steroids, as a Constitutional Amendment. That is Article
Twitter supports and protects racists - by smearing their critics with the "Hate Speech" label.
'The Chinese government encourages and actively supports the Internet's development and we also protect the freedom of expression of citizens in China,'
Translation: 'The Chinese government encourages and actively supports the Internet's development as a State-controlled and censored network and we also protect the State-monitored and scripted freedom of expression of citizens in China,'
'We welcome foreign companies to invest and develop here, and we will continue to foster an open policy market.'
Translation: 'We welcome foreign companies to invest and develop here as long as they conform to State-mandated censorship policies and anything else we care to dictate to them, and we will continue to foster the illusion of an open policy market.'
..and before any of you decide to moderate me down as a "Troll": Yes, I strongly dislike the Chinese government, and would sooner trust the word of some strung-out meth-head with the DT's than anything they would say -- and furthermore I think you're a fool if you think otherwise.
Are YOU using the TOOL, or is the TOOL using YOU? Think about it!
That excuse has been replayed so many times that it has to be written down as an official excuse of the PRC.
Likewise with China and the US. Since China hasnt left the US alone (Lenovo acquisition, CNOOC attempted acquisition, various attempts to buy influence with the Chamber of Commerce), attacks on China are fair game.
Twitter supports and protects racists - by smearing their critics with the "Hate Speech" label.
Nope.
Whatever a government recognizes is what rights you get. All rights are "alienable". You 'deserve' nothing.
It's only what the greater education of a government agrees upon is what you get for rights. Some folks up top found the awesome trifecta to crush us with because they dare us to be "against terrorism", "Against protecting children" and your choice of a third.
Look at that Computer Black Box proposed. That's the attempt at a Grand Slam. Who knows what a Black Box records.
I know now what 2012 is, it's the collision of all this social tech tension. The Mayans nailed it to the year.
My first Journal Entry ever, in 8 years! http://slashdot.org/journal/365947/aphelion-scifi-fantasy-horror-poetry-webzine
Inflation not just hit all cities in china, but also villages too. From my visit to my hometown, I noticed that one kilogram of eggs, last year, was 4 yuans. Now it is 10 yuans. When my wife was in high school, an egg roll snack would cost 2.5 yuans. Now it is 6 yuans. I fully support Chinese Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Jiang Yu as she is looking out for the interests of Chinese citizens. I am proud of China for what it is - capitalistic, energetic, and full of opportunities.
What is the sound of 1.33 billion people laughing their little yellow asses off?
Nope, it is 1.4 billion people laughing off. Perhaps you need to catch up with news fast.
The issue is that there's almost 1.5 billion of them. About 1/6 of entire planet's population. If they adapt a more sociologically efficient totalitarian system, they will outcompete us (as in West), significantly increasing the risk of us eventually switching to totalitarian system ourselves to be able to compete better.
I watched Tiananmen as it happened, so yes, it made an impression. As for the others, you'd see a radically different world if I were in charge. :-)
He put his boots up on the table and made a face. "The sig," he smirked. "You can waste your life in search of the sig."
This is part of the reason why the internet here in America needs to be officially declared as a utility, much like the telephone, so that companies and the government are unable to filter or censor it, or to give certain companies advantages over others in what travels across it.
Seriously, the internet is in 75+% of homes by now. I bet when the telephone was considered a utility, it was still in far fewer homes than that. What's the difference?
All the nations engage in censorship. It doesn't justify it, but what's the difference between:
I do not fail; I succeed at finding out what does not work.
The policy has been very CLEAR that anything against the party are blocked.
Why does the Chinese government need to make internet access open for US companies?
Because China bitched and moaned until the WTO made them a member, being a member of the WTO means your bound by WTO rules.
And did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage? - Pink Floyd.
The policy is "all Internet access is censored, not open and not clear". This policy is open and clear.
I think us Americans should be more concerned about what's happening with our great democratic allies such as the French, with random censorship that would make Chairman Mao proud, than to worried about the godless commies in China.
"We also protect the freedom of expression of citizens in China" - they [Chinese authorities] continue to lie blatantly. They throw regime opponents in jail, and then proclaim they protect freedom of expression. They still don't see the ridicule of their own behavior.
"Open and Clear". Reminds me of the "Fair and Balanced" claim.
Table-ized A.I.
"In China, we don't have software blocking Internet sites. Sometimes we have trouble accessing them. But that's a different problem." -- Yang Xiaokun, Chinese diplomat, at the 2006 Internet Governance Forum in Athens
They'll lie right to your face and expect you to believe it. They're probably so used to their own people cowering in fear of calling out government lies they actually think we will too.
China: "We also protect the freedom of expression of citizens in China".
Sure. And "The check's in the mail" and "I won't come in your mouth."
In Chinese: 'We welcome foreign companies to invest and develop here, and we will continue to foster an open policy market.'
In English: 'We really want you to come here so that we can rip your IP off and then compete with you in your local markets with prices that are very low due to our feudal employment policies and government subsidies. In fact, Germany you are not moving enough production to China and we need you to because we haven't managed to spy on you much because your security is too good and we aren't smart enough to copy your stuff.'
Maybe they thought it was a euphemism for a trouser snake and were offended that non Chinese had what could be termed a python in their pants?
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
Yes, for once the chinese have made a very clear and true statement, without a doubt their internet policies are open and clear:
"Whatever we don't like is banned"
Can't get clearer or more open than that