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Chinese Government Ramps Up Weather Control Efforts
formaggio writes "China's government is intervening with nature by rolling out four regional programs to artificially increase precipitation across the country by 10 percent before 2015. The program is anticipated to bring in an additional 230 billion cubic meters of precipitation per year by 2015. This is on top of the 50 billion cubic meters of precipitation China already artificially creates annually in the northeastern province of Jilin."
Sorry commies, but only the Allies can have the weather control device. Go play with your nuke and iron curtain.
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Are they also creating an evaporation effect in the region that supplies air moisture to the region they're trying to create precipitation in?
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but what could go wrong!?
This reminds me of an Edding's book I read once, "Guardians of the West" where the lead character started playing around with the weather (to prove a point to some very inept thinking people). Several months later his grandfather comes to his castle, and virtually berates him for tampering with the "most powerful force in nature".
:)
Somehow I think this very fitting considering (1) this is China we're talking about and (2) anyone (including the US) who plays around weather is virtually certain to cause an adverse effect somewhere else. So please DO NOT TAMPER WITH THE WEATHER!!.
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Wait, what? Since when can China control the weather?
What about downwind areas where the water would fall naturally? Might that effect snow packs and cause drought during summer months?
I see international problems brewing with this...
I hear that in some localities, the rain water (that falls on your property) doesn't belong to you, and you're not legally allowed to have rain barrels.
Weather alteration will amplify issues like that, such that countries have to make treaties regarding who can claim which clouds.
Of course, you have to wonder about a range of possibilities: You can make your neighbor have a drought, or potentially have a flood.
see North American Weather Modification Council http://www.naiwmc.org/
China already bought him off. Part of his price for not starting a civil war after the 2000 election fraud. China's corporate masters didn't want that much havoc.
I can see it now.
China claims success in their Weather Control efforts, when in reality those increases in precipitation are actually a result of their contribution to global warming--warmer air has the potential to "hold" more water.
But if the moisture isn't already in the air in sufficient quantities, it doesn't want to come pouring down.
Why not just build desalination plants to take demand off rivers downstream and reservoirs upstream to retain water from high rainfall years?
Built the Three Gorges Dam, which is a dam disaster to the population and environment, now they going to play around with the sky. Not very forward thinking, really.
A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
In theory this isn't as bad as it looks, in practice it's oh so much worse, and someone needs to start doing the same in Canada and the US Pronto.
1. Erosion - Enough said
2. Flooding - Thailand.
3. Rainfall/Snowfall - Since China and the US are both in the northern hemisphere, this means that any rainfall that would have fell in North America has been intercepted by China. This is because the Jetstream goes from West to East in the Northern Hemisphere. Less rain, less crops, less food.
4. Earthquakes - screwing with the rainfall patterns also lubricates the faults, so this might cause more earthquakes along the Pacific as stresses change.
The problem that worries me the most is the rainfall loss. China can't magically siphon water from the ocean, so this is rainfall that didn't precipitate over Europe. Any rainfall that doesn't fall in Asia ends up falling on the Pacific coast of North America. If the US and Canada started doing it, Europe would have the same result. If water is pulled out of the atmosphere too fast, then we have an even worse problem whereby everything that isn't in the 50 miles of the West coasts ends up as desert.
We shouldn't tamper with the weather. It doesn't matter if there is a global warming or global cooling problem, if we start preventing clouds from forming, water just vaporizes. See Mars. If warming goes out of control, See Venus.
sounds like a mad scientist plan... but hey if it works :)
Never antropomorphize computers, they do not like that
The good part is where it goes out of control.
Depends on the weather patterns. If somebody did that on the west coast of the US, that would cause all sorts of problems for people down wind. But, if they did it just upwind of the east coast it would have negligible effect.
I'm not sure precisely how the wind patterns are in that part of the world, but I have a feeling that the impact will be relatively minor. I'm not sure that rain falling on the ocean is really that much different then rivers flowing into the river. Apart from differing types of pollution.
AlGore hasn't seemed too excited over the other ecological disasters in China. Merely making it rain is trivial in comparison to some. So I'm guessing he's going to ignore it, but will have some pedestrian answer prepared if he's ambushed.
Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
Oh, I don't know. Considering we exist in a closed system (we live on a ball, in space)... What Could Possibly Go Wrong? No KYOTO for us! We can fix billions of years of planetary evolution with our fiendish little yellow brains!!!
They are presumably seeding clouds with silver iodide. I thought that was debunked years ago?
If cloud seeding is/has been used off the coast of Africa during Hurricane season. As a Floridian, I am pretty aware of new storms forming in the area, as they tend to eventually track across the Atlantic towards the gulf states. /takeofftinfoilhat
Mr. President, we must not allow a precipitation gap!
It's not nice to fool with Mother Nature! Be it rain or butter you just don't mess with her.
I wonder how this will do with the warming that is occurring? Supposedly the models show that China's rain is suppose to drop a great deal. Perhaps this is their way of winning their cold war.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
Where most cities in the world are covered in a single gray cloud most of the day, and no one thinks twice about it. Colder climates, shorter life spans, eating and drinking poison, what a great world we live in today.
Chairman Sheng-ji Yang of the Hive has discovered Ecological Engineering!
"China's government is intervening with nature by rolling out four regional programs to artificially increase precipitation across the country by 10 percent before 2015. The program is anticipated to bring in an additional 230 billion cubic meters of precipitation per year by 2015. This is on top of the 50 billion cubic meters of precipitation China already artificially creates annually in the northeastern province of Jilin."
A 10% increase on 50 billion cubic meters is an additional 5 billion cubic meters, for a total of 55 billion cubic meters.
If 230 billion cubic meters is 10%, then they must already be producing 2,300 billion cubic meters, or am I going silly.
He just can't keep the damned Joes from meddling with Cobra's plans to dominate the world with it.
I swear to God...I swear to God! That is NOT how you treat your human!
Maybe the Australian Carbon Tax which is suposed to offset climate change effects be passed on to the Chinese since if this program goes full scale day to day operation they will efectively be responsible for the weather in other countries :) :) I mean i read a butterfly farting in Brazil causes thunderstorms in Jakarta some sort of chaos theory effect. So TAX THE CHINESE!!!
In Romania for at least 4 months it was no real rains as they are usually seen during summers and autumns. Drought was officially reported on "extensive agricultural areas in eastern, southeastern, southern and western territory" of Romania. (http://www.meteoromania.ro/images/comunicate/comunicat-seceta-dec-2011.pdf)
What about your country?
It looks like it is not that China does not try to prevent stop the climate changes.... It actively tries to cause ones.... Where are all naive climate savers who help to move industry from USA/Europe to China ?
That's where it can get interesting... Water vapor is a greenhouse gas, a *way* more efficient one than CO2. If they manage to reduce the amount of water vapor in the atmosphere, that is going to reduce the greenhouse effect.
Interesting, 'innit ?
OG.
Its been dry all over europe this year. The rhine and danube are at record low levels.
ALL YOUR RAIN ARE BELONG TO US
- Chinese government, weather control division
"When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
Make a region dependent on an artificially created local microclimate ... and use your control of it to extort whatever you want from the region.
"Consensus" in science is _always_ a political construct.
climate change?
You want climate change?
THERE's our climate change - they're taking extra rain that should be available to the REST of us!
Other places will dry-up while THEY fill their communist swimming pools!
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