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Face-Scanning Vending Machine Denies Children Access To Pudding

smitty777 writes "What do you do when you spend over a billion dollars on products targeted specifically for adults? Simple, just put a device on your pudding dispensing vending machines that scans faces, and denies the delicious food to the kiddies. The Minority Report-like device will apparently judge the age of the individual based on the space between their eyes and ears. If the criteria is not met, the vending machine will shut down and ask the individual to step away from the machine. There are some vending machine combos that this makes sense for, but seriously — pudding?"

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  1. You still can't have your pudding... by sethstorm · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...even if you've had your meat.

    (apologies to Pink Floyd)

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    1. Re:You still can't have your pudding... by azalin · · Score: 4, Funny

      unless it's black...

    2. Re:You still can't have your pudding... by jamesh · · Score: 4, Funny

      Even better would be if the machine screamed "Stand still laddie" while it was trying to do the facial recognition :)

    3. Re:You still can't have your pudding... by a_nonamiss · · Score: 3, Insightful

      According to TFA, it's not really about enforcing some sort of moral code. They developed this machine so that it only dispenses free marketing samples to their target demographic. I mean, from a really wide angle, I can sort of understand what they were thinking, but really? It all sounds like something that someone would shout out in a brainstorming meeting and everyone would get in a good chuckle and move on. Why not just pay someone minimum wage to dispense samples? It's a marketing gimmick, and it's a really stupid use of technology. I could also see it backfiring because it can't be 100% accurate. How insulted would you be if you stepped up to this machine and it identified you as a child? "NO PUDDING FOR YOU!" What if you had some sort of condition that caused your facial proportions to be childlike? What if there was a random software error? I can't believe they spent time, effort and money actually developing this.

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    4. Re:You still can't have your pudding... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Because it goes well with eggs, sausage, bacon, and hash browns?

      I'm geussing you are unfamiliar with the traditional English breakfast.

    5. Re:You still can't have your pudding... by Kharny · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Because it is yummy?

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    6. Re:You still can't have your pudding... by orkysoft · · Score: 5, Funny

      That is pretty childish behaviour.

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    7. Re:You still can't have your pudding... by thetoadwarrior · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why would people eat animal's eggs or milk or flesh? I can't see how someone can think eating one part of the animal is acceptable by eating the blood is awful.

    8. Re:You still can't have your pudding... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I really dislike that line, mostly because it only ever seems to be used to justify treating someone like a child.

      Example:
      Person A treats Person B like a child. Person B feels disrespected and demands to be treated like an adult. Person A calls Person B's demands "childish behavior" and uses it as validation for their own behavior.

  2. Re:Alcoholic puddings? by smi.james.th · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ok, now that I've read TFA, there's no booze in the pudding. This is what it says:

    "It's probably a good measure to prevent unmonitored children from taking more than their fair share of pudding cups"

    FWIW, I know quite a few adults, probably myself included, who can be worse than children when it comes to taking more than their fair share...

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  3. Sorry Cartman. by lewko · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now they just need vending machines that can detect little fat kids.

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  4. Pudding Nazi... by walter-t · · Score: 2

    - No pudding for you! Come back one year. Next!

  5. Smaller sized adults? by theNetImp · · Score: 4, Interesting

    So what about a person who has a growth problem and doesn't grow any bigger than the size of a 10yr old. This is a law suit waiting to happen.

    1. Re:Smaller sized adults? by Hentes · · Score: 4, Informative

      Even midgets have normal sized heads.

    2. Re:Smaller sized adults? by Merls+the+Sneaky · · Score: 2

      Not in Australia it considered CP if the participant "appears to be under eighteen."

    3. Re:Smaller sized adults? by SuricouRaven · · Score: 2

      Australia, the US and UK all go one better than that: They consider it to be CP if any of the subjects appears to be under eighteen even if there are no actual subjects, merely artistic depictions. Australia jailed one person for Rule 34 art of Lisa Simpson*, and the US jailed one person for possession of hentai comics.

      *He had prior convictions for actual child porn, so the jury was eager to throw the book at him..

    4. Re:Smaller sized adults? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      They have had these machines in Japan for a few years and some adults couldn't use them. Kids quickly discovered that holding up a photo of an adult works well though.

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    5. Re:Smaller sized adults? by theNetImp · · Score: 2

      In the US this would fall under handicap discrimination laws. They don't need a specific law. Everything must be accessible to people with disabilities.

    6. Re:Smaller sized adults? by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      If that bug can be seen as discrimination, then yes, there's a law against that in most countries. And since our country now has "anti-age discrimination" laws (which were actually aimed at not discriminating against older people), I could even see this being used here by some shyster. You have a product that is arguably not harmful to children being refused to be sold to children.

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  6. Easy hack. by blackicye · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The Japanese Cigarette vending machines with facial recognition were pulled, when they discovered that holding up a scale photo or magazine picture would pass the age check.

    1. Re:Easy hack. by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 2

      I could image that this would be quite amusing for bored kids . . . holding up: Halloween masks, a painted basketball, pumpkins, cabbage, iPads . . . etc.

      Hell, it would be even amusing for me . . .

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  7. My evil plan by Fuzzums · · Score: 5, Funny

    Put a scale in front of it.
    Anyone over 100 Kilo will not be served :)

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    1. Re:My evil plan by ooshna · · Score: 3, Funny

      Hey my mother was a champion shot-putter thank you very much.

    2. Re:My evil plan by JustOK · · Score: 5, Funny

      so was my dad. He put away over 20 shots a day for years.

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  8. RTFA - It's about only selling to their demo. by Seumas · · Score: 2, Interesting

    As the article actually states, the reason they're using this technology isn't because of some pudding shortage or the contents of the pudding. It's just that Jell-O is marketing the pudding to adults and they only want to sell it to their demographic. I'm sure this will go over well in the future, when companies decide that they only want white people to buy their products or that they don't want their vending machines selling anything to gingers.

    1. Re:RTFA - It's about only selling to their demo. by Seumas · · Score: 2

      I kind of agree with you, but not entirely.

      That they're essentially giving away samples means that this could be perceived as a way to simply conserve the product they have in the machine. No point giving the product away to four year old kids who keep running to the machine for freebies, when you're trying to sell to their parents who have the buying power. Otherwise, you're just wasting product.

      On the other hand, what's to stop an adult from hitting up the machine ten times? I would think a more effective and maybe fair solution would be not to let the same person get a free sample more than a certain number of hours apart. The problem with that is then the storage of everyone's photograph on the system for however long the grace period is. That would make it even worse.

      I think the uncomfortable part of it is the idea that it's to "only give the product to their own demographic". Free or not, that seems almost sketchy. Maybe not so bad right now, but what if you really *do* want to market your product to age and/or race or even gender? Something about that feels off, to me.

      Worse, I can see a future very soon now when we have an accessible database (probably at a fee) where you just connect your system to some API that has a photo of almost every person in the country. Now, every time you use a vending machine (free samples or a regular paying one), it snaps your photo, identifies you in their database, gets your contact information from that, and starts spamming you by email and snail mail. Maybe even phone calls. Knows where you are and who you are and the products you are buying (not that they don't already have and know this in general).

      Blech.

  9. Not to mention free advertising on Slashdot by pecosdave · · Score: 4, Insightful

    and every other technology outlet that covers the technology machine and every outlet concerned about health or childrens rights that covers this machine. Seriously could you imagine the amount of buzz/free advertising that would be generated by targeting only Men for example, and the number of women who would buy the product just to say "screw you I'll eat it anyways"?

    Jello may have just invented the advertising by exclusion business model.

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    1. Re:Not to mention free advertising on Slashdot by Merls+the+Sneaky · · Score: 2

      Eric cartman already done this with cartmanland.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartmanland

    2. Re:Not to mention free advertising on Slashdot by Bogtha · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Seriously could you imagine the amount of buzz/free advertising that would be generated by targeting only Men for example, and the number of women who would buy the product just to say "screw you I'll eat it anyways"?

      Yorkie (chocolate bars) did this in the UK. The slogan was "It's not for girls". Then they did a special pink version that was for girls. Last time I checked, women didn't need any more incentive to eat chocolate though.

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  10. Re:Down with smart machines. by metacell · · Score: 2

    But unlike Diebold's voting machines, the worst thing that can happen from abuse is that the wrong people get free pudding...

  11. Re:Down with smart machines. by DarwinSurvivor · · Score: 2

    HAHA, I just pictured a granola bar wrapping itself back up when you try to pass the second half to a friend!

  12. Re:Alcoholic puddings? by duguk · · Score: 5, Informative

    More likely thinking of the adults having to deal with the sugar frenzy, not to mention the throwing up. And I wonder whether allergies and liability also plays a part.

    Sugar-hyperactivity is a MYTH. Surprising, I know; but before you react, have a think about it for a while. The same is said to apply to E-numbers. Although some people are allergic to it, hyperactivity is very unusual.

    Also, I don't understand the logic of this company, they destroyed Cadbury's in the UK after closing one of their large factories here. Now they want to restrict who can buy their products. If children are out alone, surely they can buy this product elsewhere? I can't imagine any shopkeep refusing a sale because it's a chocolate cake that was "designed for adults".

  13. BFR. (Body Form Recognition) by nospam007 · · Score: 2

    "judge the age of the individual based on the space between their eyes and ears." ...and the space between the 2 sides of their waist.

    "Step away, fatso, no pudding for you!

  14. I clicked the link...but not what I expected by fl!ptop · · Score: 2

    There are some vending machine combos that this makes sense for, but seriously - pudding?"

    I was not expecting to see whiskey, but this instead.

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  15. Distance between the eyes does not change much by pfafrich · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A while back I did some work looking at how people faces change with age for a medicinal application. One quite surprising thing is how little the distance between the eyes actually change, quite young children will have the the same distance as adults. On the other hand noses keep growing throughout life.

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  16. Can you blame them? by jasonq · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's a gateway dessert.

  17. Re:Alcoholic puddings? by Tom · · Score: 2

    Anyone who thinks that food does not affect your body and mind is clearly delusional. But likewise is everyone who thinks in monocausalities and simple, 2-step causality chains.

    Hyperactivity is real, though exaggerated like most things in the thiiink ooof theee chiiiiiiiiiiiiiildren area. And changes in diet do have effects, though I'm not sure anyone knows for sure just what the causes are and what changes are required and which ones don't really do anything.

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  18. What they should do... by AliasMarlowe · · Score: 2

    If the machine is going to meter pudding based on the metrics of the would-be buyer, then it should base its decision on the relative size of belly or bum to height (or some similar fat/slender axis), not on the size of the head.

    Of course, it would be better if the machine did not attempt to make any such decisions, as there are probably enough cases where the decision would be wrong (small adult, etc.). Lawsuits ahoy!

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  19. Because you can't untell a lie by tepples · · Score: 4, Funny

    On the other hand noses keep growing throughout life.

    Because you can't untell a lie.

  20. ED-209 Pudding Protector by Guppy · · Score: 2

    ED-209: "Citizen! Please step away from the pudding!"

    *BRRRRRT-SplatterGibSploosh*"

    ED-209: "Thank you for your cooperation."

  21. How much anyone want to bet by Stan92057 · · Score: 2

    How much anyone want to bet its really for catching criminals AND to save the scans of our faces for further intrusive advertising somewhere down the road. Lets boycott the makers of Jello. Do they scan our faces as we walk by also?

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  22. This is a brilliant idea by goombah99 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I suspect this is a test of the system. Put somerhing in their that kids want that is not true contraband like cigarettes. Kids will figure out how to defeat the security by, say wearing masks or holding up newsweek magazine covers. Maker of machine then improves software. The war continues till kids can't defeat it. Now you can load it with cigarettes and alcohol.

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  23. Re:Meat and milk don't have blood by michelcolman · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Ever seen a steak before it's cooked? Plenty of blood in there, I would say.

  24. Re:Alcoholic puddings? by cellocgw · · Score: 2

    Sugar-hyperactivity is a MYTH.

    Sorry, but all the studies and assertions in the world don't explain away a real, easily-reproduced phenomenon. Give kids a pile of sugary snacks, and half an hour later they turn into hyperactive demons; then a few hours later, they crash and turn into miserable, whiny little brats.

    [citation needed] -- and that really should be an end to it. Ya wanna clue? Kids party hard and then invariably collapse into Need-A-Nap syndrome. Sugar's got nil to do with it.

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  25. Re:Diseases transmitted through blood by Runaway1956 · · Score: 2

    So - tell me, what do you eat that CANNOT spread diseases? And, you might be interested to know that my devout Catholic grandparents, along with their sizeable clan of relatives, ate that blood pudding at almost every holiday.

    I guess my mother's ethnic background rubbed off on me, because I only remember tasting blood pudding a couple of times. Seems that she brainwashed me into turning my nose up at it by the time I reached school age.

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  26. Re:Alcoholic puddings? by kyrio · · Score: 2

    Wowie you are a retard. Test it on myself? No problem. No change after eating a bunch of sugar. Have you seen that 60% of the population that's obese? According to you, they wouldn't be obese. They wouldn't have been able to sit down after drinking their 2L bottle of Coke and would have burned off their excess calories. Children act crazy all of the time. They don't need sugar to do so. Sugar never affected my mood when I was a child and it doesn't now.

    Maybe you need to hang out with some children to see how they normally act, without sugar. Well, maybe not, it might not be a good idea to have you near children at all.

  27. Re:Diseases transmitted through blood by thetoadwarrior · · Score: 2

    If you want to follow the bible there is a load of things you shouldn't eat including things like seafood and pork. Of course that made sense ages ago when there was no refrigeration and the ability to cook things wasn't as good. Most meats *still* have some blood in them anyway. It's not like they can drain 100% of the blood.

  28. i have tried the temptations junk. by Truekaiser · · Score: 2

    DON'T buy it, if you want real chocolate pudding buy the kiddie marketed stuff. because it's just air fluffed normal pudding so you pay more for less.

  29. Next, "oinker blocking" by Animats · · Score: 2

    It would be more useful to measure the BMI of the customer and block oinkers from buying.

  30. Re:Alcoholic puddings? by xepel · · Score: 3, Informative

    Read the article. They aren't restricting who can buy their products. They are only restricting who can get *free samples.* No shopkeep or store will refuse to sell these pudding cakes to children, but the company can certainly refuse to give *free samples* to children (who are not their target market).

  31. Re:Diseases transmitted through blood by Will.Woodhull · · Score: 2

    Oh.

    Well, if it's all just a symbolic structure, then I guess the beliefs themselves don't really matter much, huh? You could swap in Earth Mama for God, and Shiva for Jesus, and the algebra would still work the same.

    This is probably a discussion better continued with your Pastor, Rabbi, or High Priestess (or similar personage, depending on your faith). You could print these posts out and bring them to Sunday School. That would probably generate an interesting discussion about the differences between beliefs and symbols.

    Continuing this on Slashdot would be foolishness.

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  32. Waah by Niscenus · · Score: 3, Funny

    Stop acting like a child. So you don't get the respect the wearers of big-boy pants do; why do you think that is? Have you considered that Person B had always been a whiney li'l twit what had it coming?

    No, you just walk in on an abstraction and assume you know what's going on, but I've know Persons A, B, C and E for three years and D and G for two. I just met Persons F and H last week and won't comment on them, but lemme tell you, A has always been a 'hole and B whines about crap like this all of the time. Person E used to go out with Person A, but didn't appreciate being talked down to and Person B seems unaware that sex is a thing that happens.

    I don't want to tell you about the frakked up deal between Persons D and G, but Person C told me that D and G used to think they were related, and now that they know they're not...well, it's still weird. I don't normally listen to Person C, but ever since I got a bleedin' ear-full from Person B about Person A, I'd rather keep all Person socializing to a minimum, but Person C just barges in from time to time when escaping this line of BS.

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