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Rackspace: SOPA "Is a Deeply Flawed Piece of Legislation"

hypnosec writes "Cloud-based hosting service provider Rackspace has joined the ever expanding list of companies that are opposed to the U.S. Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA). In a blog post, Rackspace CEO Lanham Napier said that the controversial bill, which will get its final vote before the House Judiciary Committee, will do more harm than good, punishing innocent users in the process. 'The SOPA bill, as it stands, is a deeply flawed piece of legislation. It is bad for anyone who uses the Internet, including Rackspace, the more than 160,000 business customers that we serve, and the tens of millions of retail customers that they serve. It is bad for job creation and innovation,' Napier wrote."

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  1. Flawed? by BronsCon · · Score: 4, Funny

    No shit?

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    1. Re:Flawed? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Flawed? No, shit!

      Fixed that for you.

  2. Nearly all laws are by reboot246 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Most all laws over the last few decades have been deeply flawed in some way. That's what you get when you elect idiots.

    1. Re:Nearly all laws are by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Or rather, that's what you get when your politicians can make promises of intent without any fear of being held accountable once elected.

    2. Re:Nearly all laws are by reboot246 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Tell me about it! My Congressman is Spencer Bachus, one of the biggest crooks and liars in Washington. We're probably going to vote him out next year, but whoever replaces him will probably be just as bad.

      I say "probably" because we have a lot of idiot voters, too.

    3. Re:Nearly all laws are by ColaMan · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Oh they're not idiots.

      They're very smart.

      It's just that they have different goals to what you would like.

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    4. Re:Nearly all laws are by deblau · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That's what happens when Congress is in the pocket of big business. Any good business person will tell you that you need recurring revenue. Congress does it through sunset provisions: "Oh, that law you really like is expiring soon? Well, maybe I can get an extension passed, but it'll cost lots of money to advance that ahead of extensions that other people want." It's really a racket.

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    5. Re:Nearly all laws are by JustinKSU · · Score: 4, Informative

      My Kansas Senator is proposing an alternative: http://moran.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/news-releases?ID=4a3d7f95-6208-445f-9e25-2f290a334938

      I haven't seen any detailed legislation, but assuming it does what it says it does, it would be nice if those against SOPA could put some weight behind this approach instead.

    6. Re:Nearly all laws are by Sloppy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That's what you get when you elect idiots.

      Who is the greater idiot: the idiots or the idiots who vote for them?

      Let's not for a moment pretend we have anyone other than ourselves to blame. Everyone says they hate SOPA, but talk about voting against the SOPA parties and suddenly you're a wacko and 90+% people start listing reasons they plan to support the people who enact it.

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    7. Re:Nearly all laws are by similar_name · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Tell me about it! My Congressman is Spencer Bachus, one of the biggest crooks and liars in Washington. We're probably going to vote him out next year

      Well, he's only won 10 times in a row, maybe the 11th is the charm. He received 75% of the vote in the primary in 2010 and hasn't been challenged in the general election the last 4 times. Good luck.

    8. Re:Nearly all laws are by Skal+Tura · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Lesser evil does not make evil good.
      If it bears any resemblance to SOPA it's just as evil.

    9. Re:Nearly all laws are by JustinKSU · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Lesser evil does not make evil good. If it bears any resemblance to SOPA it's just as evil.

      Stopping piracy is not evil. But the methods to do so can be.

  3. Ugh by rwven · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The most hilariously annoying part of this bill is that there's not a single sane citizen of this country who, when properly educated on the bill's impact, would vote for such a thing....yet the lunatics running this country will probably pass it right on through since they're in the chokehold of the industries and power mongers which DO want it.

    If it's possible to lose any more faith in the people at the top, I certainly will if this is passed. I'll also cast opposing votes against any representatives who vote for it, regardless of party affiliation.

    1. Re:Ugh by vlm · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I'll also cast opposing votes against any representatives who vote for it, regardless of party affiliation.

      Since both of the big parties are owned by the same people, I assume that you will only vote 3rd party from now on?

      Voting D or R is throwing your vote away. The only valid way to vote is to vote for a 3rd party candidate. Or an "extremist" D or R... The only R I would currently consider voting for is Ron Paul and the only D I would consider voting for, if he runs for anything, is Feingold.

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    2. Re:Ugh by h4rr4r · · Score: 4, Interesting

      What is wrong with kucinich?

      I can't bring myself to vote for Ron Paul. I do not believe he can keep himself from forcing his religious views on others once he gains some power. While I know he did not write it, putting your name on racist newsletters does not speak to his good judgement either.

    3. Re:Ugh by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 5, Insightful
      The problem is that, for a variety of reasons, American presidential candidates are obligated to be Christian and are kinda stuck pandering to religious morons - The clout of the shadowy Family and attendance of their National Prayer Breakfast is a good example.

      Many of us believe in a god, or (like me) are outwardly atheist, but many of us who don't believe in a god claim a religion or denomination for reasons of family history(and, more specifically, the risk of being ostracized or written out of the lucrative will for angering the more traditional elders).

      Ethanol-fueled, where is this rant going?

      Religious people want censorship. The internet's free flow of information is anathema to their shackled minds and irrational fear of truth.

    4. Re:Ugh by Nadaka · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Or you can go by his actual record. Where he has intentionally attempted to subvert the us constitution and remove the oversight of the supreme court over religious based state laws. If it had passed, states would have been free to violate individual civil liberties by endorsing specific state religions.

      Yes. Ron Paul is an anti-constitutionalist, anti-libertarian (he only cares that the federal government is neutered, he loves the idea of the individual states violating peoples rights), a hypocrite, a liar, a theocrat and anti-American traitor.

    5. Re:Ugh by vlm · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't think you get how this works.

      Two candidates are proposed, both owned by the same corporations planning to support identical policies.

      You apparently really hate the marketing message the R people used, but that doesn't mean they would have done anything different.

      Oh sure, they would have attended twice as many prayer breakfasts, and half as many MLK parades, but I'm not thinking the end result would be any different.

      Standard /. car analogy is its like getting all emotional about cars because the Saturn was a really nice car but the commercials suck so you bought a Toyota which is also a really nice car and thinking its important that the Toyota tv commercials don't suck as much.

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    6. Re:Ugh by CanHasDIY · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I can't bring myself to vote for Ron Paul. I do not believe he can keep himself from forcing his religious views on others once he gains some power.

      1) Wouldn't being a congressman for 30+ years qualify as "some power?" That said, you would think if he was going to abuse it he would have done so by now.

      2) Paul is the only candidate who rabidly (or seemingly at all, for that matter) adheres to the concept that the U.S. Constitution is the supreme law of the land; in that, the Constitution guarantees religious freedom. Paul also abhors the concept of "executive privilege," i.e. the practice of letting the President do whatever he wants and civil liberties be damned, so it therefore stands to reason that Ron Paul would honor the Constitution and thus not impose his ideals of religion on the masses.

      3) There are more people involved in the American legislative process than just the President; contrary to modern belief, there exists a system of checks and balances that, when honored and followed, prevent unconstitutional legislation from becoming law. I know it's pretty passe these days to talk about responsible governance in accordance with the Constitution, but that is exactly the ideology Paul embraces.

      As for the accusations regarding RP and the "racist newsletter," I say meh; I didn't get sucked into the whole "Jeremiah Wright hates America So That Means Obama Does Too" non-story, and I intend on patently ignoring this one as well.

      Cheers!

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    7. Re:Ugh by Nadaka · · Score: 5, Informative

      One of them is the "We the People Act": http://www.independentamericanparty.org/2011/09/1949/ That is strait from the horses mouth.

      See section 3. It boils down to forbidding the US supreme court from hearing cases on the constitutionality of state laws based on religion, abortion or sexual orientation discrimination. If it were in effect, each state could ban abortion in violation of roe vs wade or make homosexuality a felony. States could ban atheists, muslims, jews, mormons, catholics or even protestants from serving in public office without federal challenge among many many other backwards theocratic and anti-constitutional edicts.

      I believe he has at least one other proposed law with similar effects.

    8. Re:Ugh by element-o.p. · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Religious people want censorship. The internet's free flow of information is anathema to their shackled minds and irrational fear of truth.

      Stereotype much? Yes, there are "religious" people who do -- and have done -- some pretty crappy things throughout history. There are "religious nutcases" who are certainly the "shackled minds" that you mention above. There are also those who claim religious affiliation (for more than purposes of securing a position in a will) who don't fit that mold -- those who are vocal Libertarians, who love science and technology and who abhor censorship. I am one. So are a number of my friends. Kindly refrain from confusing us with those who truly are as bad as you claim, 'kay? Thanks.

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  4. Doesn't matter, the fix is in by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Obama and most of the Democratic Party are owned by the big Hollywood studios. The Republican Party is owned by big business in general. The only reason this hasn't passed already (without even a public debate) is that Google and a handful of other big players are fighting it. But even Google is a relatively small fish in this money game.

    As for those of us without deep pockets--well save yourself that stamp on a letter to your Congressman.

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    1. Re:Doesn't matter, the fix is in by vlm · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Democratic Party are owned by the big Hollywood studios. The Republican Party is owned by big business

      Those are two sides of the same coin.

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    2. Re:Doesn't matter, the fix is in by andydread · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Its unfortunate truth you speak unfortunately. Joe Biden is the biggest whore for Hollywood MPAA and RIAA in washington along with Orin Hatch and Berman from California. Just go look up his record when he was in the senate. one shudders....

    3. Re:Doesn't matter, the fix is in by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Google could kill this dead if they wanted to play dirty. Imagine all Google-owned services (Search and Youtube in particular) being replaced for a day by an explanation of SOPA urging people to call their respective congresscritters and tell them to send this thing where the sun don't shine. If the politicians are convinced voting for this thing is absolute political suicide they won't care how much campaign donations the MPAA gives them.

    4. Re:Doesn't matter, the fix is in by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      But even Google is a relatively small fish in this money game.

      Actually, Larry and Sergei could buy all of the movie and music studios with their personal money. I'm not even saying Google could buy them (which obviously, it could), but I'm saying Larry and Sergei could.

      The entertainment industry is actually not that big, in terms of economic impact. They just have a huge soap box by virtue of what they do, so it appears they are bigger than they are.

    5. Re:Doesn't matter, the fix is in by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 4, Insightful

      yes - BUT - the R party is also owned by Big Religion.

      that is their permanent (until they decide to change this) handicap.

      there may be some small good points that the R's have but the fact that they sold their souls to the american taliban (christian right extremists) means I could never vote for any of them, on that principle, alone. the party is too tainted by that one controlling force.

      remove that force (it was not always embedded in the R point of view) and then we might have a valid 2 party system. but right now, we have a religious party, a whichever-way-the-wind-blows party and that's pretty much it. neither is worth voting for. both are owned by big business; just different ones.

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  5. Corporate support is crumbling by cultiv8 · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Interesting paragraph in this article from politico:

    “The dynamic is clear. Once SOPA — and its Senate counterpart, Protecting IP Act, or PIPA — became high-profile among the Internet community, the lazy endorsements from companies and various hangers-on became toxic. And now, those supporters are scrambling, hollowing out the actual support for the bill. Suddenly, a bill with ‘widespread’ corporate support doesn’t have much support at all,” Dayden said.

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  6. What Would Happen... by IonOtter · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Serious question for consideration:

    What would happen if the "big players", such as Level 3, Verizon, Google and the like came out and said, "If you pass this legislation, we are turning off all of our equipment. We will back up our servers, send our customers their data, rip out the equipment, sell it for scrap, leave the wires hanging, sell our buildings and retire to the Caribbean. If you pass this, we won't be able to do our jobs, so we will simply quit and leave you with nothing to legislate. Good luck suing us, because you'll be back to typewriters, pens and wired telephones."

    Totally NOT going to happen, but as an exercise in thought, would it be possible?

    Could a company as big and powerful as Google hold the world hostage with nothing more than a power switch?

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    1. Re:What Would Happen... by itchythebear · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Interesting thought, but as has been pointed out before, they don't actually care what happens to the internet. The Govt will fund a Govt only network (if they need it) and big media will finally not have to worry about people illegally downloading their "product" and can go back to charging 20 bucks for a CD and forcing television down everyone's throats.

      Yet more proof of how little our representatives care about us eh?

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    2. Re:What Would Happen... by Zocalo · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Well, since we're playing what if... In Google's case they wouldn't actually need to throw the switch, just have a search equivalent of the Black Out day Jimmy Wales proposed for Wikipedia. Let's say you are coming from a US based IP address. You go to Google and enter a search, but get... No results, just some ads down the side of the screen and a message saying something to the effect of:

      If enacted, SOPA and PIPA could be used to force us not to display links that might infringe copyright or face criminal sanctions. Since we can't determine that automatically, here's what is safe for us to display.

      Click here for what non-US based netizens (i.e. your competitors) would see via our non-US based "affiliates", or here for more info on these two acts currently under consideration.

      Needless to say, clicking the link would return the normal links, and second set of ads providing move revenue for Google, so there's an incentive there and the resultant uproar would be... entertaining.

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    3. Re:What Would Happen... by king+neckbeard · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, the government and the studios don't care, but the public does. If the internet is shut down, Americans can't get their porn. And if Americans can't get their porn, they'll bring out their guns.

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    4. Re:What Would Happen... by DanielRavenNest · · Score: 4, Interesting

      That would not happen, but it would be possible to delist supporters of SOPA from search engines, and refuse them hosting, network connections, etc. If they are trying to destroy your business, there is no rule that says you have to do business with them.

  7. Re:PR opportunity by sd4f · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think it's just free publicity, like just look, they got on /.

  8. Re:Doublespeak/Equivocation by Midnight_Falcon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How about what Google is doing, paying lobbying groups and using lots of their resources to actively campaign against SOPA?

  9. Politicians or Money by andydread · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Lets face it. The problem is money in politics. When the RIAA and MPAA come knocking with oodles of cash to help get congress critters elected how can they refuse? The only way to solve this problem and much of the problem with Washington is to thoughtfully and radically remove money from politics. Until that is done the politicians will just keep on promising the people and delivering to the corporations with the fattest wallet.

    1. Re:Politicians or Money by phorm · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Money (cash)
      Promises of cushy jobs after your term is up.
      Fancy dinners/events
      etc
      etc
      How exactly would one go about removing it all from the equation. Block one way and they'll find another, and no politician is going to vote against his/her ability to receive favours...

  10. Re:PR opportunity by the_B0fh · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Actually, if you're on Google Plus, you'll have seen that the CEO of RackSpace have been fighting SOPA for quite some time now.

  11. Something not mentioned.... by dcigary · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Rackspace is a large constituent of Lamar Smith's District 21 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Texas.21st.Congressional.District.gif) as they are headquartered in San Antonio, Texas. Having this large of an employer in his own district against the legislation should be a big wake-up call to Rep. Smith.

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  12. Re:and yet it will probably pass by erroneus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't know. We said the same thing about the AT&T buyout of T-Mobile. We all knew it was bad for competition. We all knew AT&T was lying to the government about it. And even when the truth leaked out, AT&T and various government people continued to push for it. It looked really bad. But there was LOTS of talk. It became very high profile. The added light and notice the issue got eventually killed the deal.

    People need to continue shouting from the rooftops about SOPA.

    One thing I have yet to see talked about is how laws like DMCA and the proposed SOPA continue to increasingly put police and government powers in the hands of non-government people... people who aren't otherwise accountable for their actions. It's a huge violation of government trust.

  13. The jack-boots they are a tromping by msobkow · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I know this is going to get voted down by offended Americans, but...

    After 9/11, the US government began dismantling support for Constitutional rights in favour of anti-terrorist security theatre. They invested billions in surveillance, security, police, staff, and computer systems. Yet despite that huge investment, they couldn't stop the domestic terrorism of the fellow in Texas who recently took out a half dozen people.

    They claim to have stopped a few terrorists over the years, but when they've presented the "evidence" against those who were planning attacks, it turned out that the attackers were using ineffective techniques that were unlikely to kill anyone (e.g. The underwear bomber.)

    Now they've stepped it up and officially denied the Constitutional rights of anyone the government deems a "terrorist", without having the nasty hassle of proving it to a judge and/or jury. They can just "hold" someone for years without charges or court cases while they "investigate".

    SOPA is just the next step of that change in American policy. Instead of championing the legal system, they want to be the arbitrary judge and jury over the world.

    Sorry, but the American government does not deserve that level of trust from the world when they can't even follow their own rules for governing a country.

    And don't get me started about the persecution of medical cannabis users south of the border and the denial by the US government that cannabis has any medical use.

    And yet some people can't understand why so many in the world hate the US and what it's done to their nations in the defense of "freedom" and "democracy." You can't go around invading people, ignoring their laws, ignoring your own laws, and expect to receive any measure of respect on the international stage.

    But I bet not ONE of the Congressmen who support SOPA have ever even thought about how this bad legislation is going to be received by the rest of the world.

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