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Ask Slashdot: How To Go Paperless At Home?

THE_WELL_HUNG_OYSTER writes "Over the years, I've had numerous scanners equipped with automatic document feeders — and all of them jam or grab multiple pages at a time (thereby missing pages). Like you, I've got years of tax returns and legal documents to scan, but with these kinds of barriers, it would take months to scan everything. Enterprise-grade machines cost 5 figures. How do Slashdotters become paper-free?"

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  1. Evernote by xanadu113 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Try using Evernote and scan as you go, keeping up on all current items. Do extra ones when you have the time.

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    1. Re:Evernote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Better yet, use the roundfile. 99.999% of all paperwork doesn't need to exist, much less be saved digitally. Even tax documents sunset in just a few years.

    2. Re:Evernote by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      What they both said:

      Scan as you go.
      Toss/shred stuff not really needed.
      And sign-up for electronic delivery: most of my tax documents are online in PDF format from the various entities. As well as all my monthly statements, canceled checks, etc.

    3. Re:Evernote by Opportunist · · Score: 5, Informative

      Plus, most companies are quite happy to deliver electronically, since it saves them money. Check with your delivery companies, they might even offer a discount if you go paperless.

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    4. Re:Evernote by icebraining · · Score: 2

      Some of them actually charge you more, though.

    5. Re:Evernote by DarkVader · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Somehow, putting my personal confidential documents on somebody else's server seems like a very, very bad idea. I'm not at all sure why you'd suggest it.

      Scan as you go makes sense for new documents, but I think THE_WELL_HUNG_OYSTER's question really was a request for our opinions on bulk scanning solutions for already existing paper documents, not an ill-advised "cloud" storage solution for new ones.

      Unfortunately, I don't have a good answer either, scanners generally prove to be quite the annoyance.

    6. Re:Evernote by tbird81 · · Score: 2

      (20 years ago, Microsoft Word was in version 4. Can you still read those documents properly today on your tablet or smartphone, or even on Windows 7?).

      To quote the anon:
      "Yes, you sure can."

  2. You don't have to BUY a machine by chronosan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Find someone who'll rent one to you.

    1. Re:You don't have to BUY a machine by Green+Salad · · Score: 2

      or, work for a well-equipped firm. Ask to come in one weekend to use their enterprise-grade machine. Avoid the build-up with a consumer-grade machine.

    2. Re:You don't have to BUY a machine by peragrin · · Score: 2

      Or simply make it a new resolution, and know that you have to keep the paper version for five years and ignore the past.

      seriously I have been mostly paper free for 5 years now. I have hard copies of stuff that I need to, but if your just storing it, two digital copies stored in different locations works much better, I have 13 years of electronically filed PDF tax returns.

      Paper work has little meaning if you don't want it too.

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    3. Re:You don't have to BUY a machine by SkimTony · · Score: 3, Informative

      I'll second this. My office has a networked Xerox Multi-function, and it handles scan-to-pdf very nicely, depositing a PDF in my inbox. Since I'm not using any paper or toner (as I would if I were making copies at the office) no one cares if I stay a few minutes late to run a sheaf or two through the scanner.

    4. Re:You don't have to BUY a machine by Stormthirst · · Score: 2

      I don't know much about enterprise grade ADFs. but I imagine if a company has one the impact of a single user will have little impact on the overall life span of such a machine. If it is such a mission critical machine, you would hope they would have a service contract which regularly replaces parts whether they need replacing or not.

    5. Re:You don't have to BUY a machine by SkimTony · · Score: 2

      Well, technically I'm using company electricity, too. However, I strongly suspect that this machine will be swapped out with a newer model in a few years (they're leased, I think) which will be well before the sheet feeder wears out. Most copiers die when the paper feed/print mechanisms wear out, not when the scanner does (at least in my experience).

    6. Re:You don't have to BUY a machine by eliphalet · · Score: 2

      Pardon my paranoia, but what if one's employer's scanning device keeps a copy of what you scan or fax?

    7. Re:You don't have to BUY a machine by ajlisows · · Score: 2

      Heck, take the pile of paper to a Kinko's or local copy center and get it done there. Worry about naming/sorting when you get home. This option should be cheaper (and easier) than renting an enterprise copier.

    8. Re:You don't have to BUY a machine by Fjandr · · Score: 2

      That's not paranoia. Almost any commercial machine will be equipped with a hard drive, which is used to store print jobs (since the unit's RAM usually isn't large enough to trust that it can hold the entire print queue when the machine is constantly busy). Many only remove old jobs only as-needed for space requirements, so those images could be there for a long time. There have been a number of reported incidents of companies not wiping off-lease or surplus drives from their printers, and having that data wind up in third-party hands.

    9. Re:You don't have to BUY a machine by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      In the UK you are required to keep original copies of documents for some purposes. For example copies of wage slips and bank statements are not usually enough to prove your income to some arms of the government. I keep everything I need to keep in boxes labelled by year. One box per year. After five years clear out the oldest box and recycle it. It does mean that when you need a document you have to search through the box for it, but that is so rare it isn't worth organising.

      If you want to go electronic you will just have to pony up for a good office grade document scanner. Unlike the cheap ones they separate the pages properly. Because they are business products the software they come with is not the usual consumer crap either. Japanese manufacturers like Oki seem to be the best. It is worth the investment because it should last you a decade or two.

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  3. Out source by NEDHead · · Score: 5, Funny

    to China

    1. Re:Out source by Eponymous+Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Not sure why you've been marked as troll, but there are services that will do this for you. Send them a box of paperwork and a couple of weeks later you get access to everything as searchable pdf files.

    2. Re:Out source by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Not sure why you've been marked as troll, but there are services that will do this for you. Send them a box of paperwork and a couple of weeks later you get access to everything as searchable pdf files.

      Plus there's the added bonus of someone else having your complete history in digital form! Saves them a few steps if they ever want to make a lateral move into identity theft.

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  4. Fujitsu ScanSnap or similar by introp · · Score: 5, Interesting

    A sheet-feeder duplex scanner that'll scan and OCR to a PDF. Drop in your year of bank statements, press the button, come back in five minutes. Scan your receipts, product manuals, whatever you actually use. Throw out everything else.

    1. Re:Fujitsu ScanSnap or similar by Alan+Shutko · · Score: 5, Informative

      This is the simple answer. This scanner actually works, unlike other ones I've tried. Multifunction printers with scanners, or flatbeds with a document feeder are all much slower and much more prone to jamming. The Scansnap rarely jams but when it does, it tells you and lets you fix it. It hardly ever grabs multiple pages at once, but when it does, it can notice it (mine has an ultrasonic sensor) and will let you fix it immediately.

      I've scanned some 10k sheets with mine (not pages, as a double-sided document counts as 1 sheet but two pages). It works extremely well.

    2. Re:Fujitsu ScanSnap or similar by lhaeh · · Score: 4, Informative

      Yup, the Fujitsu ScanSnap 1500M is amazing. Never jams, great OCR software, VERY fast.

      Check out the great reviews on Amazon

      You can just toss in receipts and odd sized documents, handles them all fine.

    3. Re:Fujitsu ScanSnap or similar by puck01 · · Score: 3, Informative

      I'll agree with this. It just works and does so quickly.

      Add a good shredder and a secure redundant storage system and you're good to go.

    4. Re:Fujitsu ScanSnap or similar by jrkotrla · · Score: 5, Informative

      As an owner and avid fan of the ScanSnap S1500, I tell you: "Read the manual" (or at least the help files)

      You can configure as you like, but on mine I press the blue magic button and I have a PDF file stored on my HDD in a folder I have preselected. This PDF is named according to the naming convention I have selected, and is later OCR'd when my computer is idle, as I have selected. No other selection boxes pop up and I don't have to click on anything at all on my computer. Just the one blue button.

      That's why the Scansnap is magic

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    5. Re:Fujitsu ScanSnap or similar by musth · · Score: 2, Interesting

      A ScanSnap costs $400, obviously quite an intricate product (iphones are less than this). How much does manufacturing, assembling, shipping, and mining the rare earth metals and other materials needed to create one of these things counteract the environmental and monetary savings of keeping less paper? How many people can even AFFORD a luxury like this?

      I think this might be another example of techno-delusional thinking.

    6. Re:Fujitsu ScanSnap or similar by BasilBrush · · Score: 3, Informative

      I've got a Scansnap S1300. Same software. If you have to do more than press the button on the scanner to scan a document, you've configured it wrong.

      It does come with a manual.

    7. Re:Fujitsu ScanSnap or similar by Keith+Mickunas · · Score: 2

      I've been considering getting a scanner for a while now to take care of all my old documents. I've seen an ad on TV for a scanner and software that looks nifty, but I can't bring myself to buy that "as seen on TV" crap.

      This S1300 looks like something that will fill my needs nicely. The S1500 would be great, but after my initial archiving I know my usage will drop dramatically and I don't want to spend that much. The money saved on an S1300 will more than make up for the minor loss in functionality.

    8. Re:Fujitsu ScanSnap or similar by plover · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The number of people being able to afford one is irrelevant. There are always wealthy people who can afford something that the poor cannot.

      The question about the savings of keeping less paper are perfectly on target. Assuming the paper is recycled (either after scanning or after you've kept it for the required seven years) that part's a wash. They still printed and mailed you the paper, and you still handled it and disposed of it. There is no savings one way or the other based on how long you keep it.

      The only actual savings is incurred if you change residences. Not having to move seven boxes of old papers is perhaps worth a few cents of your time and some truck fuel.

      The other "savings" claimed is convenience. Having a searchable back index of these pieces of paper might have some value, but only if you actually need to refer back to them. And that's the deal. I have a box of paper marked "2006" in the closet, filled with receipts, bills, tax forms, etc. How often do I go back to that? Never. So how often would I need to refer back to the electronic version of the same data? Never. It's a box of pre-recycling scrap paper that I store only because I may need it in case of a future tax audit. Otherwise, doing anything with it is a waste of my time and effort.

      Next January, I'll spend an hour in front of the shredder getting rid of the contents of that box. Even that's no different than spending a minute a week shredding them after scanning them, really. Now, a scanner/shredder combination might be a lower-effort way of handling them, but that's not the product we're looking at. Plus, I shred in bulk, which is a lot faster than shredding a sheet at a time while scanning it.

      So I completely agree with you. Overall, scanning these papers would be a step that delivers no benefit to me, yet costs me in terms of time and money.

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    9. Re:Fujitsu ScanSnap or similar by uglyduckling · · Score: 2

      Yeah, I'm sure I'll enjoy using a digital camera when I'm up to my 60th photo on my monthly paperwork clear-out. It's a million times easier to pull the staple out of a stack of papers and feed them into the scanner than to manually go through every page. Also, unless you set up a jig with a tripod and light source, you'll end up with half the photos at a funny angle and/or flash fringes on the scanned images.

    10. Re:Fujitsu ScanSnap or similar by PsychoSlashDot · · Score: 3, Informative

      I have one of those and the programmer should be shot. Make that at least a dozen of times. After each scan I have to make half a dozen of mouse clicks to get ready for the next scan. Close the floating window. Then it asks me whether I want to throw away the last scan. Why would I want that? And why is it the default? Then you have to go to the dock, right-click (not an ordinary click), select the proper menu item to get the floating window again. AAARrrrrrggghhh.

      What it does a nice job at is recognizing single sided and double sided, as well as orientation. OK, deduct two bullets.

      Bert

      You're doing it wrong. Seriously. The ScanSnap has two very distinct "modes". In the default "mode" it works with sort of a wizard interface. You press the button and a box comes up asking you "what do you want to do with this?" It walks you through the process. If you disable that mode (I think it's called Quick Menu) by right-clicking on the blue S systray icon and then clicking on "Enable Quick Menu", you open up a world of awesome.

      In awesome mode, you define "profiles". As many as you like. You can define a single-sided, black & white, 300dpi, save as ARBITRARY-NAME###-DATE.PDF in X:\FOLDER. You can define other profiles with other settings, including the scan-to-email and scan-to-print options that mimic the options in the Quick Menu. When you're in a profile, you press the Scan button on the scanner and... it just DOES whatever that profile defines. At most you have a single OK button to confirm what it's going to do. Changing profiles is done by left-clicking on the blue S systray icon and clicking on the desired profile.

      You're using the mode for people who don't understand computers. There's a whole customizable mode for people who do.

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    11. Re:Fujitsu ScanSnap or similar by epine · · Score: 2

      I've had a ScanSnap for several years, and I second that it has never jammed once. On average, the OCR also works pretty good, but I had many small complaints and with a little polish it could be great. Not holding my breath, however.

      I'm not presently up to date with the OCR software bundle right now. After an initial push, I've let the paper stack up again. Another push coming soon.

      One thing that really bugged me as a hardcore nerd is that in duplex scan mode it doesn't auto-cancel bleed-through. If the paper is too thin or transparent, your OCR on both sides is crap.

      Seriously, if you've scanned both sides of the page, cancelling out bleed-through has to be a heck of a lot easier than echo cancellation in telephony systems.

  5. Outsource it. by Fished · · Score: 3, Informative

    Lots of places will scan documents for you on professional-grade scanners, including your local Kinko's. Sometimes, you don't save money by trying to do it yourself -- like when you keep buying another cheap scanner at a couple hundred a pop to avoid getting it done professionally.

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    1. Re:Outsource it. by mj1856 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why the hell would you give the guy at Kikos a box of your tax returns and legal documents? Especially since you are asking him to scan them! It only takes a minute for him to make his own digital copy and poof! There goes your identity.

    2. Re:Outsource it. by peragrin · · Score: 2

      Why scan them all? I bet you only need about a 10% of them actually scanned the rest you simply have to store in case they might be needed.

      So start out doing everything digital for this year, and only scan in items that actually apply to this years records.

      In 10 years you will have a fraction of the paper stored, and full archives.

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    3. Re:Outsource it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      "Why scan them all?"

      More than once I've needed a receipt a year or two later because something needed to be fixed under warranty. Oh, I found the original receipt! I think. Two years later, it's blank, the thermal print faded to nothing.

      THAT is why I scan.

    4. Re:Outsource it. by markdavis · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If you think THAT is crazy, look at the first, top-rated comment! Evernote? Yeah, like I want to give some third-party, "cloud" service access to all my stuff all the time? Geesh, even Google is bad enough now. And if you think I am going to use my phone to pay for stuff with Google Wallet.... think again!

  6. Do you think it's worth it? by jcreus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    All those tax returns, legal paperwork... Can't they just stay on a box or at the basement? It'll require lots of work, and get few benefits. I would understand for new documents; i.e. introducing to a spreadsheet some taxes/things to pay. But why care about the past? Or, at least, why scan? Just type the figures, it'll be more semantic and wouldn't involve machines (except for you and the computer).

    1. Re:Do you think it's worth it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Also, if you need past tax returns, you can call IRS and they will be happy to fax them to you.

    2. Re:Do you think it's worth it? by swalve · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This is where Banker's Boxes are great. Just move last year's files into a box and put a destruction date on it. Done.

  7. ScanSnap by MikeMo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Fujitsu ScanSnap S1500 totally rocks. I bought that refurbished for $250. Add in Yojimbo or Evernote and you'll be set. We've gone paperless in our office and at home, and this machine is the heart of that. We scan everything and shred it.

    It's nice not having the paper around, but the BIG thing is not having to find it - it's always at your fingertips, searchable by document content or via the keywords in Evernote or Yojimbo.

    1. Re:ScanSnap by Shoe+Puppet · · Score: 3, Funny

      (I cut the books)

      You, sir, are worse than Hitler.

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  8. Toilet paper by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How do you expect to be "paperfree" when almost the entire use of your paper has nothing to do with priting anything?

    Most of paper is used for toiletpaper or paper towels or paper tissue.

    So, how do you use those 3-shells??

  9. Why go "Paperless"? by schroom5 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I really don't understand the whole idea of going paperless. The vast majority of paper we get, we don't really need to keep more than a month or so. Bills, etc, when you get them, you review them for errors, if everything looks good you pay it, at most I keep 2 months worth of back bills around. If you close an account, keep the last statement for a year or two. Taxes, insurance papers, titles & deed, those you need to keep long term, but 7 years worth of returns, insurance contracts, deeds & titles will fit easily in one, maybe two, plastic file boxes that you can get from Staples for $20. A 2 draw filing cabinet and a couple plastic file boxes should handle the filing needs of the average family. Most people just keep too much paper. The reason you want to keep paper around is if there is ever a disagreement it is usable in court. I'm not sure scanned documents can be submitted to court, so I would never just scan then shred my tax returns.

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  10. Use a mounted camera by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I had this exact problem. With a scanner I was getting up to 3 scans per minute, and even at that rate it would have taken me months to scan all I wanted. I realized the problem was the physical moving of the element, and that if it were to take the whole snapshot at once then it would be a lot faster. A camera mounted overhead, with a trigger to snap photos dropped my scan time down so much I was doing 12-15 pages per minute. Assuming you get it well lit, with a decent camera that has little distortion, you can get images that are as good as a scanner MUCH faster. I posted about my setup here:

    http://bobbaddeley.com/2011/05/fast-scanner/

  11. Simple Scan with Brother MFC-7840W by El_Oscuro · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I have Simple Scan on Ubuntu and a networked Brother MFC-7840W. The Brother has a multiple page feeder which doesn't jam much and Simple Scan which supports multiple pages. Couldn't be easier. Just put your document in the feeder, push scan and a few minutes later you have a 10 page PDF of it.

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  12. Cheap scanners by DogDude · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm not sure what kind of document feeders the poster has been buying, but I regularly scan and fax hundreds of pages a week on a very affordable Brother multi-function machine. They cost about $300 and work just fine.

    Of course, you could also take those old tax returns and stick them in a box in a closet somewhere on the 1/1,000,000 chance that you may ever need to look at them again.

    I don't understand Slashdot's obsession with articles and questions about turning simple, mundane tasks into grossly overcomplicated, expensive technical "problems" in need of grossly overcomplicated, expensive technical "solutions".

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  13. "How to go Paperless at Home?" by John+Hasler · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Install a bidet.

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    1. Re:"How to go Paperless at Home?" by GiMP · · Score: 2

      Modern ones have a blow-dry option.

  14. Huh? by PCM2 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    My reaction is, why would you want to go "paper-free"?

    Seriously. Are you allergic to paper or something?

    It would be one thing if everybody sent you bills and documents electronically and you never had to deal with paper again, but you're talking about scanning things in with a document feeder. WTF?

    Seriously. It is much, much harder to keep records electronically than to throw the pieces of paper into a file cabinet and forget about it. This is well documented.

    Maybe for a company that produces huge piles and mounds of documents every year it makes sense to want to convert them to electronic formats, but for an individual it makes no sense. And you're not talking about stuff like marriage licenses, now, you're talking about random individual tax records from years ago. WHY are you losing sleep over it?

    The mere fact that it's hard for you to figure out how to do it should be a big clue that IT'S AN INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT YOU WOULDN'T OTHERWISE HAVE TO DO. Are you so bored?

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    1. Re:Huh? by devilspgd · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Seriously. It is much, much harder to keep records electronically than to throw the pieces of paper into a file cabinet and forget about it. This is well documented.

      True. Equally well documented is how much easier it is to index paper by multiple keys, as well as rapidly resort and search file cabinets. Oh wait, no, that's electronically stored documents.

      Seriously, storing paper is a ton easier and it works for many purposes. Until you move, or have a fire, or your basement floods, or you need a copy of that letter you received from your insurance company 18-24 months ago confirming a change to your home because they're now claiming they weren't informed you're using natural gas instead of electric heat and are declining a $250,000 insurance claim after the aforementioned fire.

      But sure, paper is easier to throw into a file cabinet and forget about.

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    2. Re:Huh? by devilspgd · · Score: 2

      So, your digital records will be intact and accessible following the fire or flood?

      That's another good point I'd forgotten to make, thanks! Electronic records can be trivially copied, backed up, stored off site, etc whereas paper records really cannot.

      Oh, I see. You stored it safely in the "cloud".

      With a trusted provider that is completely immune to breaches.

      Assuming a targetted attack, your home computer isn't immune to breaches either, nor are the boxes in your basement. Assuming an attack wasn't targetted, cloud providers are bigger targets, but the odds of your particular data being stolen and somehow exploited are similar to someone randomly targetting you individually; negligible. This is quite different from situations where an account database is hacked and the information for thousands of people are cleanly filed in a consistent usable format.

      I also discovered this thing called "encryption" the allows me to safely store data too important to trust to Evernote type services.

      Not everyone trusts the cloud, but to me, I've balanced the risk vs the rewards and am comfortable with where my data is stored. You are certainly free to choose differently, if so, you might consider copying your data to a removeable drive and placing it somewhere safe (in a $25 fire safe at a friend's house, safe deposit box, in your desk at work, etc)

      I've had a couple of minor floods over the years, and had destroyed paper. I've yet to lose a single electronically filed document since I started having files worth worrying about (which would probably be from the days of my first tax return)

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    3. Re:Huh? by digitallife · · Score: 2

      How are you a anywhere even close to done after scanning? Even if you bypass directories and proper file names in favor of metadata and searching, inputting all that meta data is a *huge* job, no matter how quick and efficient you make it.

      I tried to go paperless for a while, but the scanning and meta data were just too much, and the benefits too little. For the rare occassion I actually need to look up something that requires 'searching', it's less effort overall to just use paper. I've actually gone so far as to change all my bills and whatnot back to paper, because the filing and processing is just so much easier.

      Compare paper bills to paperless:

      Paper:
      - open envelope
      - pay bill on bank website
      - stuff bill in obvious folder in filing cabinet
      The whole process takes maybe one minute being slow, and scales well with multiple bills at a time. The filing is easy and logical (year - category), and relatively simple for common lookups (for example getting all the electricity bills for last year is trivial, taking maybe 30 seconds). There is only one website to deal with, so it keeps problems to a minimum.

      Paperless:
      - open email informing of bill
      - figure out which websites I need to open
      - hope all websites are accessible, working, and havent changed so that my auto-fill stops working
      - figure out how to lookup how much I owe
      - pay bill on bank website
      - download copy of bill
      - edit meta data, file name, place in correct folder
      Inevitably when dealing with so many (quirky) websites, some are inaccessible, broken, or have changed enough that the auto-fill stops working. My electricity company changed the way they do logins drastically enough to require calling them (30 minutes - mostly on hold)... 3 times in one year! And it's not like I can use a different electricity company...
      Just changing the file name of the bill after downloading takes as much time as the entire filing process with a paper bill. Editing the meta data is prone to error and annoying (oops I must have forgotten one of the 20 necessary tags on that bill), and without proper meta data you lose basically 50% of the benefits of paperless (searching and space).
      The whole process is annoying if it goes smoothly, and time consuming and frustrating if it goes badly - and its a tossup and out of my control whether it will go smoothly or not.

      Anyways, my main point was that it's not as simple as scanning a piece of paper - which, if we're being honest and realistic, is harder than filing said paper. And really the benefits are minimal for the average person.

  15. Can you go paperless? by OzPeter · · Score: 2, Insightful

    What happens in 4 years time when the IRS wants to do an audit on your 2011 return and makes the request "Show us the receipts"? Likewise for any legal document under the sun. Sure its great to have scanned copies, but I bet that there is still a requirement to back them up with the paper originals

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    1. Re:Can you go paperless? by cob666 · · Score: 3, Informative

      The IRS has accepted scanned receipts since the late 90's, provided they are identical to the original and legible.

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    2. Re:Can you go paperless? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p17.pdf

      Page 16.

      Basic gist: can go paperless as long as the digital images are indexed, legible and retrievable.

    3. Re:Can you go paperless? by swalve · · Score: 2

      You almost HAVE to scan the receipts, because the original thermal paper will have turned pink by the time you need it. Posters below are right, almost everyone accepts electronic documents. Audits come down to plausibility anyway. It's the numbers that count. If you claim $40k in income and $20k in deductions, you are screwed no matter what. Also, the important receipts will be duplicated somewhere- credit card statement or canceled check or with the vendor.

  16. By understanding "paperless" by realityimpaired · · Score: 2

    I go paperless by realizing that "paperless" doesn't mean I expunge all of the paper in my home, only that I don't print anything, and try to get all of my correspondence electronically. In other words, "paperless" means "consume no paper", not "have no paper".

    I still have old tax returns, etc. at home as well. I am still paperless, because all of new bills come electronically, I pay them through online banking, I no longer have print news or magazine delivery, and since I put a red dot in my mailbox the only "mail" I get are parcel deliveries and seasonal cards. I have tried to convince family to stop spending money sending xmas cards (especially since I'm not an xian and don't celebrate xmas), but good luck convincing your 90-year old grandmother that she shouldn't be sending you cards, when she's only just wrapped her head around your being a lesbian, and is still having trouble with the tree-hugging dirt-worshipper thing.

    1. Re:By understanding "paperless" by AdamWill · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Maybe you could stop being a self-obsessed idiot and cut your grandmother some slack. She's not sending you Christmas cards to spite your right-on tree-hugging ideals or because she's trying to convert you to Christianity. She's sending Christmas cards because that's what a lot of people do for the people they love. Ever considered that to her, *not* sending you a Christmas card might be as bad a breach of protocol to her as getting a paper bill or whatever is to you?

  17. Install a PDF exporter as your default printer by HouseOfMisterE · · Score: 2

    Install a PDF exporter/printer as your default printer on your PC/Mac/etc. For Windows I would recommend the free PDFCreator from http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfcreator/ .

    I do a lot of online shopping and like to keep a copy of my purchase receipts. I print my receipts to PDFCreator, name the output file something descriptive (YYYY-MM-DD - Merchant + Item description.pdf) and save the PDFs to a receipts folder. It fulfills my needs, doesn't waste paper, and I can print a receipt copy if I ever have the need.

  18. Use a digital camera? by hawguy · · Score: 3, Informative

    When I had a bunch of old documents i wanted to image, I used a tripod to suspend my digital camera over my desk pointing downward, set it to fixed focus along with a bright light nearby, then my wife and I started snapping pics as fast as I could lay pages out. We used a DSLR, but any camera should work. Setting it to fixed focus was key to prevent focusing delays.

    I'd put a page on the desk and she'd snap a pic as soon as I'd lay it down (with a remote shutter release, it would be easy to do it with one person). We did over 1000 pages in less than an hour - it took longer to shred the docs than it did to image them because the cheap shredder kept turning itself off due to thermal overload. I taped the focusing ring and zoom ring in place to make sure it didn't move out of focus and spot checked a few docs along the way to make sure everything looked good. My 10MP camera gave around 250dpi resolution for legal sized documents, which was more than sufficient for my needs. I originally thought I'd save them as uncompressed TIFF's and convert to PNG's, but it turned out that the "fine" JPG setting on the camera gave good results with small file sizes (and didn't need as many memory cards). I've printed a few of the docs since then, with adequate cropping in an image editor, the printed docs look about as good as a photocopy.

    Maybe not the best solution for ongoing needs, but if you have a single big batch to do and you don't want to spend a lot of money on a scanner, it might be worth looking into. This method would work well with poor quality and/or oddly shaped originals like thermal paper receipts.

  19. Re:Easy by ColdWetDog · · Score: 3, Funny

    Do it at work! Not only do they have better machines, you get paid to do it there!

    When will you surf Slashdot then?

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  20. Re:Which Fujitsu ScanSnap? by BasilBrush · · Score: 3, Informative

    S1500 is good if it won't ever move from a desk.
    S1100 doesn't have a document feeder, but could be OK if you need utra-portability.

    S1300 is a good compromise. A document feeder and also portable. It's the one I have and I like it.

    They all use the same software.

    Note that these scanners don't use TWAIN drivers. Which is mostly a good thing as TWAIN has drawbacks, and makes scanning fiddly. But it does mean these scanners won't work directly from within apps that use TWAIN, and might be a problem with Linux machines.

  21. Fujitsu snapscan, and maintain it by myxiplx · · Score: 2

    As others have said, Fujitsu Snapscan. For around £350 you get a compact dual sided scanner that just works. We used them in a previous job and they had no trouble scanning thousands of pages a week with almost no jams.

    Also, if any scanner starts to pick up multiple sheets or jam, look for a maintenance kit. Replacing the pads and rollers is a simple, routine task and does wonders. We kept spares in stock and had to service scanner feeds every couple of years or so.

  22. Very bad idea by sgent · · Score: 4, Insightful

    although some paper work can be eliminated after 4 years, other needs to be retained much, much longer. Supporting documents for tax returns -- especially those not reported by third parties to the irs -- should be kept for a minimum of 3 years AFTER you file the return. Six years if you have under-reported or taken aggressive deductions that may reduce your taxes due by more than 25%.

    In addition you should retain every receipt for the purchase and capital improvements to your house until (see above) years after you sell the house -- this includes new roofs, AC, appliances, remodeling expenses, etc.

    Stock records should be kept as above.

    Contracts (esp. big ones) should be kept until the contract is completed, and at least until the statue of limitations runs out.

    This doesn't even get into business property -- where you can be audited on a desk you purchased up to 14 years later (in theory). Property related to assets (vs. expenses) should almost be retained indefinitely.

    1. Re:Very bad idea by WuphonsReach · · Score: 2

      Which doesn't change the math much.

      1. Make sure that all *new* documentation is scanned in addition to being filed.
      2. Start throwing out paper that aren't needed any longer.
      3. Scan items that you identify in step #2, which need to be kept for at least another 5 years.

      No need to dig back through 10+ years of records, scanning everything. Just scan the stuff that passes the "3+ years old, and still needed for another 5+ years" sniff test and you'll cut the workload down by 10x or more.

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