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RIM Trying To Woo Customers With Porn, Gambling Apps?

Posted by timothy on Friday February 24, 2012 @11:58AM from the what-kind-of-job? dept.

AZA43 writes "Everybody knows that BlackBerry-maker RIM is hurting these days. But is it hurting enough to try to attract new customers with the promise of porn and/or gambling apps? A new rating system added to RIM's BlackBerry App World store suggests that it just may be that desperate. The new 'Adult' rating covers, 'graphic sexual content, graphic nudity,' 'graphic violence,' and gambling apps 'as permitted by law.' And that suggests RIM will allow this kind of content into App World, in stark contrast to Apple's no-porn-on-the-iPhone stand."

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I dunno, are they? by jhoegl · 2012-02-24 12:00 · Score: 5, Insightful

Why are you asking a question... isnt reporting supposed to answer questions?
It is like when the news asks "Why are gas prices so high?" and then never answer it, but instead focus on the woes of the common person having to pay $200/week because they opted in on that oversized pickup that made their penis seem bigger.

Rant Off....
1. Re:I dunno, are they? by X0563511 · 2012-02-24 12:07 · Score: 1
  
  What about the poor folks like me, having to pay $100 a week because we got one of the tiny non-phallus-enhancing ones?
  It sucks for everyone.
  On the bright side, my non-compensation helps me compensate. It's kind of a reverse psychology :P
  
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2. Re:I dunno, are they? by Penguinisto · 2012-02-24 12:25 · Score: 2
  
  To hell with that - they forgot an even bigger question:
  What in the unholy hell are all the BES admins going to do about this? Upgrade their server (bleah), or pray for patches, or build a ginormous blacklist, or...?
  
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3. Re:I dunno, are they? by jhoegl · 2012-02-24 12:52 · Score: 1
  
  Why answer something that may be inconsequential, since the question is still out there if RIM will do this or not?
4. Re:I dunno, are they? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-24 13:02 · Score: 1
  
  It's okay. Apple -> no adult == Censorship! Oh noes!
  RIM => Adult okay == Woo custom with porn!
  So, um. What are we happy with?
5. Re:I dunno, are they? by PsychoSlashDot · 2012-02-24 13:14 · Score: 2
  
  To hell with that - they forgot an even bigger question:
  What in the unholy hell are all the BES admins going to do about this? Upgrade their server (bleah), or pray for patches, or build a ginormous blacklist, or...?
  I suspect BES admins will use the existing policies to deny users permission to install applications.
  
  Any shop that's got pornanoia will already have architecture in place to filter content the hypothetical BBBoobies app will need to reach. Because accessing web content is all done through the BES MDS, it won't really be any different.
  
  Any shop that allows their users to do whatever they want probably won't suddenly change.
  
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6. Re:I dunno, are they? by ozmanjusri · 2012-02-24 13:25 · Score: 0
  
  I'm happy (enough) with Android, where you can roll your own.
  
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7. Re:I dunno, are they? by masternerdguy · 2012-02-24 13:29 · Score: 2
  
  Except for me because I ride the bus. My transit costs total to 30 dollars a month exactly. Get with the program.
  
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8. Re:I dunno, are they? by Gavagai80 · 2012-02-24 13:58 · Score: 2
  
  You apparently opted to live nowhere near your work. Gas is cheap if you're not driving an unreasonable amount.
  
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9. Re:I dunno, are they? by ColdWetDog · 2012-02-24 14:08 · Score: 4, Funny
  
  You must have a tiny penis, then.
  
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10. Re:I dunno, are they? by hldn · 2012-02-24 14:31 · Score: 1
  
  and except for me because i ride a bike, my transit costs total to 0 dollars a month exactly. get with the program.
  
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11. Re:I dunno, are they? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-24 14:33 · Score: 0
  
  Must be nice, where I live you're looking at $100+ a month for transit, and then you get to spend the occasional half hour in the snow when your bus doesn't show up wondering what you pay for.
12. Re:I dunno, are they? by swalve · 2012-02-24 14:41 · Score: 0
  
  It costs a lot more than that, it is just that someone else is subsidizing the rest.
13. Re:I dunno, are they? by Larryish · 2012-02-24 14:43 · Score: 2, Funny
  
  Now somebody will make an adult app called "Rim Job".
14. Re:I dunno, are they? by Sollord · 2012-02-24 14:49 · Score: 1
  
  Yes because moving and finding reasonable rent next to where one works is so easy these days. I can pay lower rent and more for gas or higher rent and less for gas by living a few blocks closer to where I work but I'd be paying $200-$300 more a month in rent but at least the gas bill is less!
15. Re:I dunno, are they? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-24 14:59 · Score: 0
  
  comedy, sounds like you live in shitsville, usa or are just speculating on public transit. I've ridden minneapolis buses and trains for 7 years and have had a no-show exactly once and a dozen or so that were 10 minutes off schedule due to bad weather. anyone that claims a private auto fairs better is a liar. I know this because I tool past you on the interstate 40mph faster than every private auto, every morning.
16. Re:I dunno, are they? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-24 15:08 · Score: 0
  
  You ride the short bus. At least in my world of DC, expect to easily pay $200+ to take transit to work each month.
17. Re:I dunno, are they? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-24 15:12 · Score: 0
  
  I walk everywhere. I use my oversized penis as a third leg which makes everything quicker!
18. Re:I dunno, are they? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-24 15:20 · Score: 0
  
  I used to live in Minneapolis too, it was faster to ride my bicycle than it was to take the bus.
19. Re:I dunno, are they? by hrimhari · 2012-02-24 15:23 · Score: 1
  
  Funny that you would think every town works exactly like Minneapolis and that people having different experiences must be liars.
  In MontrÃ©al, QuÃ©bec, the monthly transit pass costs $ 75.50. When there's a snow storm, some buses simply disappear. It's not what I'd call a pleasant return home to wait 1h+ under -20oC for a bus that won't come. And there's no service status information for buses. When I depended on that service, I decided to walk 40 min to get to the subway instead of waiting.
  On the other hand, it could have taken 40m (1h if we want to be really pessimistic) to drive back home on the same weather conditions instead of 20min under normal conditions.
  
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20. Re:I dunno, are they? by Ambvai · 2012-02-24 16:18 · Score: 3, Funny
  
  You must have a wonderful penis, but no sperm anymore.
21. Re:I dunno, are they? by masmullin · 2012-02-24 16:37 · Score: 1
  
  $75 ?? In TO before I left 3 years ago, bus passes were up to $125/month, and I experienced the same shitty service you received.
22. Re:I dunno, are they? by MobileTatsu-NJG · 2012-02-24 17:20 · Score: 1
  
  Out of curiosity, do you move every time you start a new job?
  
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23. Re:I dunno, are they? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-24 20:23 · Score: 0
  
  What about the poor folks like me, having to pay $100 a week because we got one of the tiny non-phallus-enhancing ones?
  If you don't want to pay for it, don't buy it. We all want everything for free, but the world doesn't work that way. Having to pay for resources you use is not the saddest thing that will ever happen.
24. Re:I dunno, are they? by rrohbeck · 2012-02-24 20:29 · Score: 1
  
  It's a simple tradeoff and people will have to move from the 'burbs back to the centers where the jobs are. Go read some James Kunstler.
  
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25. Re:I dunno, are they? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-24 20:36 · Score: 0
  
  Yes because moving and finding reasonable rent next to where one works is so easy these days. I can pay lower rent and more for gas or higher rent and less for gas by living a few blocks closer to where I work but I'd be paying $200-$300 more a month in rent but at least the gas bill is less!
  If the facts you stated surprise you, then you have a lot of growing up to do.
  In general, rent is higher where people who can pay rent want to live. A short commute is a huge advantage. If your work is in a location with other people, you should expect the price of housing to be higher than comparable housing in a place where everyone sits in a car for an hour each way to get to work.
  Why do you think that exact housing you want should be sold to you for less money than others would be happy to pay for it?
26. Re:I dunno, are they? by AK+Marc · 2012-02-24 21:33 · Score: 1
  
  About $200 per month public transport to get me there in only 5 times the time it takes to drive it. And I've been stalked on public transport more than once (as a young teen riding alone and an adult getting on only after seeing me on the bus, then getting off at my stop, conspicuously in the middle of nowhere (think North by Northwest, but with a single store I worked in right there.
  
  It's cheaper, faster, and safer to drive.
  
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27. Re:I dunno, are they? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-24 22:07 · Score: 0
  
  Actually, that makes him a eunuch.
28. Re:I dunno, are they? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-25 02:26 · Score: 0
  
  Just the way the wild women like it!
29. Re:I dunno, are they? by themusicgod1 · 2012-02-25 02:37 · Score: 1
  
  Odd, I find riding my bike costs about 25$/mo, only slightly cheaper than transit, after repair kits and bike cost and whatnot. What kind of bike is this that allows a 0$/mo cost? Do you live in a city with a free bike program?
  
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30. Re:I dunno, are they? by zach_the_lizard · 2012-02-25 02:39 · Score: 1
  
  Not all of us have the luxury of public transport. Hell, housing prices in this area are so inflated some lower income ($45K or less) people have to drive at least two hours each way just to be able to qualify for housing.
  
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31. Re:I dunno, are they? by jhoegl · 2012-02-25 03:51 · Score: 1
  
  Yes, it is terrible to inadvertently help others out that have no doubt inadvertently helped me.
  I mean... my god.. that $20 extra a month it costs me for the paved roads, speed limit signs for safety, and buses pales in comparison for my jonesing of those charleston chews I wanted!
  SCREW YOU poor people... I want my chocolate and taffy!
  
  I will use the same sentence I heard an out of touch republican say... "Get a better job."
32. Re:I dunno, are they? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-25 04:24 · Score: 0
  
  Spoken like a man with a very small penis
33. Re:I dunno, are they? by tunapez · 2012-02-25 05:34 · Score: 1
  
  and except for me because i walk barefoot, uphill both ways, to work in 10' snow in the summertime...get with the program and off my lawn!
  
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34. Re:I dunno, are they? by segin · 2012-02-25 07:21 · Score: 1
  
  But how would I keep a job if I couldn't get there on time?
35. Re:I dunno, are they? by Totenglocke · 2012-02-25 18:15 · Score: 1
  
  You apparently don't live in / around a city. You have the issue of paying several times more in rent / mortgage to live in the city as well as having to deal with the higher crime and traffic or you live in the suburbs and have to drive further (if you work downtown). Then there's the whole issue of if you change jobs, your new job might be on the other side of the city from where you live and it's stupid to move every few years (if you work in an industry with that amount of turnover in where you work).
  
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36. Re:I dunno, are they? by Totenglocke · 2012-02-25 18:19 · Score: 1
  
  You obviously understand nothing about land prices. Just turn on HGTV at any time and you'll see that it's normal for a 900 square foot apartment to cost over $300,000. Not to mention the fact that more and more businesses are choosing to build their offices outside of the city so that they don't have to deal with higher crime, higher traffic, higher cost of land for the office, and higher cost of living for their employees.
  
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37. Re:I dunno, are they? by X0563511 · 2012-02-26 07:13 · Score: 1
  
  Probably not.
  Incidentally where I live is almost dead between the two places I've worked since moving here.
  I'm looking to move again though. Too many low income neighbors, and the only practical path to work is a traffic nightmare.
  
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38. Re:I dunno, are they? by nobodie · 2012-02-26 13:34 · Score: 1
  
  tiny, man oh man, i got the biggest Hummer on the road, like a Hummer 0 man, and a goddamn chauffeur to boot. That's what a bus is man, the best ride on the road. Penis? what you talkin'? It's like that old scene that played out at work with me and my buddy peeing: He says: "damn, that water is cold today!" "yeah, I said, and deep too!" sheeit
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Uhhhh by M0j0_j0j0 · 2012-02-24 12:00 · Score: 5, Insightful

Why not! are they like a catholic company or something!!
1. Re:Uhhhh by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-24 12:30 · Score: 3, Interesting
  
  Exactly. And then there is Apple.
  
  Steve Jobs: I don't want porn on the iPhone, but I'll fuck over anyone who gets in my way and sue the little guys into oblivion if they so much as think of getting out of line.
  
  Which is more obscene?
2. Re:Uhhhh by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-24 12:59 · Score: 0
  
  Why not! are they like a catholic company or something!!
  No, sorry. Adults only.
3. Re:Uhhhh by BasilBrush · 2012-02-24 13:52 · Score: 0
  
  Blackberry is the phone of choice for organised crime as was revealed very clearly in the London riots. So maybe they've decided to embrace the dark side further.
4. Re:Uhhhh by BasilBrush · 2012-02-24 13:57 · Score: 1
  
  People think not having porn in the App Store is the big issue. But no, people generally get porn on a web browser, not in an app. So the real obstacle in the way of porn on the iPhone is the lack of a Flash, as most porn sites still use Flash Video.
  However that's becoming less of a differentiating point, given that Android is dropping Flash too.
  The porn industry will always find a way though. I'm sure there are specialist iPhone and Android porn sites.
5. Re:Uhhhh by ColdWetDog · 2012-02-24 14:10 · Score: 4, Insightful
  
  Blackberry is the phone of choice for organised crime as was revealed very clearly in the London riots. So maybe they've decided to embrace the dark side further.
  Well, yes, politicians have been using Blackberries for years. Try and keep up.
  
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6. Re:Uhhhh by stanlyb · 2012-02-24 14:23 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  So, you have a choice: Either fuck and have BB, or be fucked and have iPhone......
  Is this really a choice?
7. Re:Uhhhh by PCM2 · 2012-02-24 14:28 · Score: 1
  
  People think not having porn in the App Store is the big issue. But no, people generally get porn on a web browser, not in an app.
  I like the way you think! Do you have a newsletter?
  
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8. Re:Uhhhh by Deorus · 2012-02-24 15:37 · Score: 3, Funny
  
  If porn was allowed in the App Store, imagine how creative the multitouch apps could become on the iPad... I am already thinking of a cunnilingus training app...
9. Re:Uhhhh by stephanruby · 2012-02-24 16:25 · Score: 2
  
  No, that would imply nude pictures of little boys. And I don't think they have that yet.
10. Re:Uhhhh by AchilleTalon · 2012-02-24 17:07 · Score: 1
  
  Playbook will now cum with a dildo since pricing down wasn't enough and the name of the device would then be plently justified.
  
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11. Re:Uhhhh by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-24 17:45 · Score: 0
  
  People think not having porn in the App Store is the big issue. But no, people generally get porn on a web browser, not in an app. So the real obstacle in the way of porn on the iPhone is the lack of a Flash, as most porn sites still use Flash Video.
  However that's becoming less of a differentiating point, given that Android is dropping Flash too.
  The porn industry will always find a way though. I'm sure there are specialist iPhone and Android porn sites.
  I'm happy to report there are indeed, specialist porn sites for when you just have to rub one out at the bathroom at work.
12. Re:Uhhhh by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-24 17:57 · Score: 0
  
  Should be easy enough to port those Japanese nintendo DS touch her to orgasm games
13. Re:Uhhhh by datavirtue · 2012-02-25 04:27 · Score: 1
  
  I'm sure there are specialist iPhone and Android porn sites.
  [citation needed]
  
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14. Re:Uhhhh by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-25 09:00 · Score: 0
  
  I am already thinking of a cunnilingus training app...
  How would they simulate the smell and taste of sweat and urine and the little balls of toilet paper caught up in the hairs and just inside the labia?
Really? by slacker22 · 2012-02-24 12:01 · Score: 1

I'm not even sure App-facilitated access to porn would be even a latent concern for me the next time I buy a smart-phone. What could compete with the glory of undulating breasts in 1080p?
1. Re:Really? by VinylRecords · 2012-02-24 12:04 · Score: 5, Insightful
  
  What could compete with the glory of undulating breasts in 1080p?
  How about a real woman's breasts undulating in front of you?
2. Re:Really? by X0563511 · 2012-02-24 12:09 · Score: 2
  
  But that's expensive! ... also some of us hate going out and playing that whole game anyway. Just about the only chance I'm getting any is a coworker or someone knocking on my door... and I doubt the last one ever happens.
  
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3. Re:Really? by auLucifer · 2012-02-24 12:26 · Score: 4, Funny
  
  ... or someone knocking on my door...
  I've seen enough Pizza related movies to see where you're going with this
  
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4. Re:Really? by Penguinisto · 2012-02-24 12:27 · Score: 1
  
  How about a real woman's breasts undulating in front of you?
  You forgot which website you posted this on again, didn't you?
  
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5. Re:Really? by larry+bagina · 2012-02-24 12:33 · Score: 1
  
  What could compete with the glory of undulating breasts in 1080p?
  How about a real woman's breasts undulating in front of you?
  If they're anything like Cowboy Neil's man-boobs, DO NOT WANT.
  
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6. Re:Really? by christurkel · 2012-02-24 12:33 · Score: 1
  
  You must be new here. Real woman's breasts. That's funny.
  
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7. Re:Really? by Ethanol-fueled · 2012-02-24 12:37 · Score: 0, Flamebait
  
  Still, mobile porn is pathetic. I don't have a problem with porn in general, in fact, I do enjoy watching the occasional black cock with the dimensions of a 24 oz. can of Miller pulling a petite white or Asian inside out every now and then.
  
  But mobile porn is kinda creepy. People who enjoy mobile porn strike me as the kind of people who beat off in the bathroom stalls at work because they can't wait to get home to rub one off. And the people who watch mobile porn also like to show it to their friends, as if trying to start a circle-jerk. No thanks.
8. Re:Really? by phantomfive · 2012-02-24 15:45 · Score: 1
  
  That's kind of cool but Linux mint has it beat.
  
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9. Re:Really? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-24 15:55 · Score: 0
  
  Woot Roxannes.
10. Re:Really? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-24 16:15 · Score: 0
  
  So, you think I should go to a strip club?
  Awaiting instructions!
11. Re:Really? by MobileTatsu-NJG · 2012-02-24 17:23 · Score: 4, Funny
  
  How about a real woman's breasts undulating in front of you?....
  ... posted on Slashdot on a Friday night.
  
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12. Re:Really? by Raenex · 2012-02-24 17:39 · Score: 1
  
  I do enjoy watching the occasional black cock with the dimensions of a 24 oz. can of Miller pulling a petite white or Asian inside out every now and then.
  But mobile porn is kinda creepy.
  Was that a joke, or do you think sharing your black cock fetish isn't "kinda creepy"?
Huh? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-24 12:01 · Score: 1

Why would that be "desperate"?
Porn app on the iPhone? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-24 12:03 · Score: 5, Funny

I know my iPod touch had a porn app... it was called Safari.
1. Re:Porn app on the iPhone? by fiannaFailMan · 2012-02-24 12:25 · Score: 1
  
  I know my iPod touch had a porn app... it was called Safari.
  + Youporn. A winning combination.
  
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2. Re:Porn app on the iPhone? by larry+bagina · 2012-02-24 12:35 · Score: 1
  
  Youporn's email addresses and passwords were exposed recently.
  
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3. Re:Porn app on the iPhone? by MimeticLie · 2012-02-24 13:52 · Score: 1
  
  I'm still mourning the loss of Cheggit.
Porn on Blackberry by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-24 12:03 · Score: 1

Giving a new definition to RIM job.
1. Re:Porn on Blackberry by acariquara · 2012-02-24 12:16 · Score: 5, Funny
  
  *RIMshot*
  
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2. Re:Porn on Blackberry by wbr1 · 2012-02-24 13:01 · Score: 2
  
  *RIMshot*
  No, *RIMjob*
  
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3. Re:Porn on Blackberry by FrootLoops · 2012-02-24 19:27 · Score: 1
  
  Giving a new definition to RIM job = +0 unmodded
  *RIMshot* = +5 funny
  ...seems everyone with mod points is straight today ;)
I hope the gambling apps will be tested to be fair by Joe_Dragon · 2012-02-24 12:05 · Score: 3, Interesting

I hope the gambling apps will be tested to be fair and 100% legal in areas as permitted by law.
Now why can we in the US have legal on line sports betting?
Less Puritanical by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-24 12:06 · Score: 0, Insightful

RIM is from Canada: fewer puritans, healthier attitude towards sex.
1. Re:Less Puritanical by Penguinisto · 2012-02-24 12:29 · Score: 1
  
  ...especially in the corporate world, where the vast majority of Blackberries in use are.
  (I suspect Canada has sexual harassment laws, yes? This one's begging to spawn a few.)
  
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2. Re:Less Puritanical by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-24 19:45 · Score: 0
  
  Sex does not "require" two people. Masturbation is indeed sex, as most Canadians would admit (perhaps most Americans would not?).
  In Canada, there are frequently naked people on television as there are in many parts of the world. Having them on a phone does not seem that radical. The idea that naked imagery is immediately "pornographic" or "prostitutional" is almost a uniquely American concept.
3. Re:Less Puritanical by AK+Marc · 2012-02-24 21:44 · Score: 1
  
  What are you, some kind of evangelical Christian? Sex can only be accomplished if there is a chance of pregnancy resulting? The point of "sex" is "sexual gratification" That sexual gratification is a by product of the sex drive, instilled by genetics for procreation does not decrease the sexual gratification of the act.
  
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4. Re:Less Puritanical by Anarchduke · 2012-02-25 08:58 · Score: 1
  
  So by your definition I could only cheat on my wife if I had sex with another woman and penetrated her vagina?
  Woohoo, awesome! So I can buy blowjobs from prostitutes and I haven't cheated. Or Bang a guy in the ass and still haven't committed adultry. In fact, we should have non-stop gay on gay action on screens in our elementary schools because after all it isn't "sex".
  
  Really, you need to think before you post.
  
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no-porn + app store lock in = anit trust MS / appl by Joe_Dragon · 2012-02-24 12:07 · Score: 0

no-porn + app store lock in = anit trust
MS and apple look out.
Sign of the End approaching by ackthpt · 2012-02-24 12:08 · Score: 4, Insightful

I usually associated the impending death of shopping centers with the presence of video stores, like Blockbuster. Dollar stores are also a sign things are less than fashionable in the prospective renter department.
RIM going in this direction is effectively encouraging undesirable, unfashionable business, which could be their death knell. Sure, there's a market for such things, but it's not going to be in the board room, sensitive as business is regarding Harrassment claims.

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1. Re:Sign of the End approaching by stephanruby · 2012-02-24 16:15 · Score: 1
  
  Sure, there's a market for such things, but it's not going to be in the board room, sensitive as business is regarding Harrassment claims.
  It's better that they be upfront about it, so that this stuff can be properly filtered out, than to do like Apple and still allow soft porn/adult content without labeling it as such.
2. Re:Sign of the End approaching by Patch86 · 2012-02-24 21:15 · Score: 1
  
  Android's got all sorts of very dodgy sounding apps in their market, promising naked girls and whatnot. I've got no interest in downloading porn apps for my phone, so it'd be a definite development if they were in their own searchable section which I can ignore. I don't want to come across all "think of the children", but it is embarrassing when these apps show up in a list when little kids, or your grandparents, or your boss, are looking.
3. Re:Sign of the End approaching by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-25 04:06 · Score: 0
  
  Wow, you only have to be 17 to buy Playboy!
I guess... by HumanEmulator · 2012-02-24 12:09 · Score: 1

I'm going back to the Blackberry now that amateur hour is starting!
A new low by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-24 12:10 · Score: 2, Insightful

Are you fucking serious? Porn? Just because there is an adult rating you equate it with porn?
Why not just change the name of this site to the "Apple Felcher's Worship Site" and get it over with?
1. Re:A new low by whisper_jeff · 2012-02-24 13:49 · Score: 0, Flamebait
  
  Yeah. Porn. Did you even click on the link? Here, I'll make it easy for you - here's the graphic that spells it out - http://blogs.cio.com/sites/cio.com/files/u80/BB_AppWorldRatings.jpg
  Heck, I'll even write it out for you in case you're not even willing to click on one link - "Graphic sexual content, graphic nudity, or content appropriate only for or legally restricted to persons at least 18 years of age."
  If that doesn't describe porn than I don't know what does. Porn.
2. Re:A new low by whisper_jeff · 2012-02-24 13:57 · Score: 5, Insightful
  
  As a follow up to my own post (after reader through more links), I am baffled where the author of the article got that graphic because RIM's dev blog has a different graphic - http://rimdevblog.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/app-world-content-rating-1.jpg - and it has a very different limit to sexual content.
  To quote:
  "Black Berry App World will not accept apps with graphic nudity."
  So, while the article's graphic pretty clearly does describe porn, I am baffled as to where that graphic came from...
  Seems like quite the FUD to me...
3. Re:A new low by uvajed_ekil · 2012-02-24 18:27 · Score: 1
  
  Why not just change the name of this site to the "Apple Felcher's Worship Site" and get it over with?
  Because only a small minority here are Apple felchers/worshipers. They are a vocal minority, which the rest of us generally equate with fanboys, fanatics, trolls and the brainwashed, which is why we generally don't get bent out of shape when they present their distorted views of what technology is or should be. Are you a Crackberry addict, or RIM-jobber? RIM is dying and desperate, which was the point. Congrats on feeding the trolls and Jobs-wannabes.
  
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4. Re:A new low by toriver · 2012-02-24 21:50 · Score: 0
  
  Ah, a religious fandroid. See, some of us want to use stuff that simply works, the same way we do not drive cars with a hand-crank, manual choke, servo-less steering, and we use GPS instead of struggling with paper maps. Joining your Google-y eyed crowd just means being derided for having the "wrong" phone if our Android phone has problems, and it does not take many instance of such arrogance to drive people into the safer hands of the iPhone.
Professional? by DigiShaman · 2012-02-24 12:10 · Score: 0

Blackberrys were mainly used because of the messaging capabilities, security, and corporate centralized control they provided. For RIM to be moving in this marketing direction seems like an unprofessional use of the products whom they cater to.

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Re:no-porn + app store lock in = anit trust MS / a by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-24 12:12 · Score: 0

what?
look out for what? "anit trust"?
I'm not sure you understand what anti trust is all about... but yea, keep on nerd ragin' away. JOE DRAGON!
Re:no-porn + app store lock in = anit trust MS / a by UnknowingFool · 2012-02-24 12:15 · Score: 2

Antitrust does not and has never meant "it doesn't have all the options I want". One of the criteria monopoly tests is that no substitutes exist. Since Android does have that option, you are out of luck trying to argue that in court.

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Blackberry's thought process by dontPanik · 2012-02-24 12:19 · Score: 5, Funny

Yeah? Well, I'm going to go build my own mobile marketplace! With blackjack, and hookers! In fact, forget the mobile marketplace!

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freedom by Lehk228 · 2012-02-24 12:21 · Score: 4, Insightful

blackberries have had "sideloading" and ability to load audio files as ringers and chimes since forever, they have always been more respecting of personal freedom, i can load any compatible and signed OS image regardless of what my carrier wants bundled. only thing i could ask for would be the ability to load OS images signed by other parties/ untrusted keys and simply have the security chip authenticate only against things that recognize the other signing keys as meaningful

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Double standards by fiannaFailMan · 2012-02-24 12:33 · Score: 5, Interesting

Slightly on topic, I always wondered why "sex and violence" are mentioned in the same breath so much. It's usually by people who have hang-ups about sex. They want to portray sex as a bad thing, so they always bracket it in with violence which is unquestionably bad. It's a bit like Sen McCarthy who tried to smear the Screen Actors' Guild by repeatedly asking "Have you ever been a member of the Communist Party or the Screen Actors' Guild", implying that the two were related. Or like clueless bookstore managers who group Sci Fi and Fantasy in together as if they're the same genre.
However these people do more than consider sex and violence to be equally reprehensible, they actually consider sex to be worse than violence. Hence it's okay for a TV show to show someone getting their head sliced off and blood everywhere, but God forbid if anyone should get a glimpse of a nipple, vagina, penis, and other such parts of the human body which (practical though they may be) are evil! Murder? Fine. Lovemaking?! Think of the children!!
I'm speaking of American TV of course. Other parts of the world have less Victorian attitudes to sex.

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1. Re:Double standards by ColdWetDog · 2012-02-24 14:15 · Score: 4, Funny
  
  Why do you hate America?
  
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2. Re:Double standards by Dhalka226 · 2012-02-24 14:28 · Score: 2
  
  I agree with most of what you said, with one notable exception: Violence is not unquestionably bad. It may be unfortunate, but there are plenty of times it is not only fully justified, but the right thing to do.
3. Re:Double standards by martin-boundary · 2012-02-24 14:51 · Score: 1
  
  It's a bit like Sen McCarthy who tried
  
  What? Kelli McCarthy is a senator now? Do the other senators know where that American flag has been? ;-)
4. Re:Double standards by cptdondo · 2012-02-24 15:23 · Score: 4, Funny
  
  Because America hates itself? Look at our presidential candidates for god's sake!
5. Re:Double standards by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-24 16:44 · Score: 1
  
  Right! Like when I get drunk, or the wife doesn't cook dinner.
6. Re:Double standards by MobileTatsu-NJG · 2012-02-24 17:29 · Score: 1
  
  The reason for this is pretty simple: There's a lot more teen pregnancy than teen murder.
  
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7. Re:Double standards by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-24 20:32 · Score: 0
  
  Slightly on topic, I always wondered why "sex and violence" are mentioned in the same breath so much.[...]
  Rape? Even better, tentacle rape?
8. Re:Double standards by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-25 10:29 · Score: 0
  
  Exactly! The worst of the candidates is already in office, unfortunately (that's not really true; there is one candidate worse than the one currently in office).
9. Re:Double standards by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-25 15:00 · Score: 0
  
  The Victorians were, to generalize, into pretty freaky porn. Look up some late-19th-century erotica sometime.
10. Re:Double standards by Gibgezr · 2012-02-26 06:18 · Score: 1
  
  For the funniest take on "Sex and Violence" I have seen, try this old skit by Three Dead Trolls in a Baggie:
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIqq-TYeKgw&list=UUAbZYhWQXjKmgJEWyMniZWg&index=3&feature=plcp
  The video quality is poor, but it's worth watching for the punchline.
Poker, oh yes! by Lawmeister · 2012-02-24 12:35 · Score: 2

I would love to be able to play on PokerStars or BC's PlayNow.com while watching TV - no longer hindered by cables or relatively unwieldy laptops.
RIM, now in the rimming business! by broknstrngz · 2012-02-24 12:40 · Score: 1

With a brand name like that, it was only a matter of time, really.
I think you may be mischaracterizing Apple. by DahGhostfacedFiddlah · 2012-02-24 12:41 · Score: 1

Apple's no-porn-on-the-iPhone stand
A quick GIS shows that there's at least one instance of porn on an iPod stand.

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Bah by no-body · 2012-02-24 12:53 · Score: 2

Article smacks right into the tormented relationship of people with sex (power and money).
Got nothing else to worry about?
Good that the page has a thumb-down button.
RIM is a Canadian company - people may not be as burdened there
Didn't JVC patent this technology by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-24 12:59 · Score: 0

worked for VHS.
Desparate or Freemarket? by bityz · 2012-02-24 13:03 · Score: 4, Insightful

Normally /. is up in arms over any attempt to censor developers. Now somebody is saying "we won't censor developers, but we will make it easy for users to self-select" and they're getting trashed for it.
Seems a little hypocritical.
Lame story by Tridus · 2012-02-24 13:04 · Score: 4, Funny

What, you mean some company doesn't impose their pathetic puritanical standards on their customers? OMG alert the presses!

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1. Re:Lame story by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-24 14:27 · Score: 0
  
  What, you mean some company doesn't impose their pathetic puritanical standards on their customers? OMG alert the presses!
  From a canadian/european point of view, this is normal.
  From an american/puritan point of view, it is sadly news-worthy and bash-worthy.
Re:I hope the gambling apps will be tested to be f by Algae_94 · 2012-02-24 13:14 · Score: 1

Um, you can't. It might be available to you, but so was online poker at one point. The legalities either haven't been pushed through the courts or, more likely, the feds have not decided to exert their immense pressure on these on line betting places.
Re:I hope the gambling apps will be tested to be f by PsychoSlashDot · 2012-02-24 13:17 · Score: 2

I hope the gambling apps will be tested to be fair and 100% legal in areas as permitted by law.
If by "fair" you mean "heavily weighted in the favor of the company who runs it", I'm sure your hopes will be satisfied.

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One Word . . . . by wirehead_rick · 2012-02-24 13:22 · Score: 4, Interesting

Genius.
It seems the power of porn and technology has been underestimated over and over.
Porn drove the Video Cassette business and is probably responsible for VHS defeating the superior Beta format.
It is also probably responsible for the huge early popularity of the Internet.
Barring backlash from prudish regulators this move can't be underestimated . . .

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1. Re:One Word . . . . by Mitreya · 2012-02-24 15:56 · Score: 1
  
  Porn drove the Video Cassette business and is probably responsible for VHS defeating the superior Beta format.
  I hear that "superior" Beta format also lost because it was more expensive and would (for a while) insist on 60 minute limitation to avoid compromising quality. Even when movies clearly needed more than 1hour. "Technically superior" and "worth the price for a buyer" are rarely the same thing.
2. Re:One Word . . . . by wirehead_rick · 2012-02-24 17:27 · Score: 1
  
  Could very well be. I never owned Beta and Sony has been known to add a premium to their price tags.
  I can say I never saw a Beta porn tape. But again, I never owned Beta . . .
  
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3. Re:One Word . . . . by toriver · 2012-02-24 21:56 · Score: 1
  
  No, VHS won because it was cheaper, was used by more manufacturers (hence choice) and you could fit a 90-minute movie on a tape. The porn myth is not relevant for success in the majority market.
What MORONS! by musixman · 2012-02-24 13:28 · Score: 2

Idiots, those over payed executives surely do not have expendable income to spend on fucking & gambling! This is the best idea I've ever heard come out of rim so far.
Wrong by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-24 13:51 · Score: 1

Just because they accept mature content on their network you flag them as desperate? Who the hell approve article here?
Seems like FUD by whisper_jeff · 2012-02-24 14:01 · Score: 5, Informative

I posted this elsewhere in the discussion but it might get buried and missed. While the article has an interesting graphic which describes an adult rating that clearly includes porn ( http://blogs.cio.com/sites/cio.com/files/u80/BB_AppWorldRatings.jpg ), the actual RIM dev blog ( http://devblog.blackberry.com/2011/11/blackberry-app-world-content-ratings/?CPID=TWDNPI&Date=113011 ) has an entirely different graphic ( http://rimdevblog.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/app-world-content-rating-1.jpg ) which _prohibits graphic sexual content._
I don't know about you but I think I'll take my information from the actual source and chalk this article up to nothing more than FUD...
1. Re:Seems like FUD by Roogna · 2012-02-24 17:24 · Score: 1
  
  Though admittedly, it's really a sad show of society that they prohibit sexual content, but not "Extreme depictions of graphic violence".
2. Re:Seems like FUD by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-25 01:51 · Score: 0
  
  I posted this elsewhere in the discussion but it might get buried and missed. While the article has an interesting graphic which describes an adult rating that clearly includes porn ( http://blogs.cio.com/sites/cio.com/files/u80/BB_AppWorldRatings.jpg ), the actual RIM dev blog ( http://devblog.blackberry.com/2011/11/blackberry-app-world-content-ratings/?CPID=TWDNPI&Date=113011 ) has an entirely different graphic ( http://rimdevblog.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/app-world-content-rating-1.jpg ) which _prohibits graphic sexual content._
  I don't know about you but I think I'll take my information from the actual source and chalk this article up to nothing more than FUD...
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3. Re:Seems like FUD by Anarchduke · 2012-02-25 08:55 · Score: 1
  
  I wish I had MOD points for you.
  
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Sex sells by erick99 · 2012-02-24 14:27 · Score: 0

Sex does sell and it sells well. But, it's painful to watch a company that was once so very great, reducing itself to offering porn & gambling to garner some market share. It might even work - but it would be the kind of success that makes you want to take a shower to get the ugly off.

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Good timing! by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-24 14:33 · Score: 0

When I first read this on Slashdot, under the description /. shows "Read the 69 comments". Perfect timing. Shame on you /.
CIO.com losers by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-24 15:05 · Score: 4, Funny

Dear CIO.com - I just wanted to take this opportunity to welcome you to the electronic age and to the Internet. Just a tip for you that pornography and gambling (the work of the very devil himself) is readily available on nearly every open and closed platform, mobile or fixed that exists today.
I can appreciate your wanting to elevate your cute little website by attempting to cast RIM in a bad light as Research in Motion is already in the media quite a bit lately. You may as well jump on the bandwagon as it's fashionable to kick someone while they are down it seems. Too bad Microsoft wasn't doing this on their Windows Phone platform too so you could shit on both companies at the simultaneously and be a real champion!
Excellent move stating that you admit to not seeing any apps of "that" nature, and that you think it's "good" that the company is not restricting apps based on content. By doing this, you have successfully convinced me that you are an unbiased contributor that has nothing personal against RIM. I trust you have no ulterior motive at this point - thank goodness you made those comments, I feel much better about your impartiality now.
I wanted to thank-you for crow-barring a quote from Steve Jobs into an article related to RIM. It's really important to always compare what everyone else is doing against Apple. It was a real eye opener knowing that the immortalized Steve Jobs is still protecting all of us users by not permitting pornographic or gambling applications on our phones - what a terrible world it would be if I could play cards or see some tits on my phone. Steve Jobs, thanks for looking out for us.
Mr. Sacco, admit it, you have an iPhone and love it don't you? Fact is, RIM now has a mechanism in place where content can be classified and filtered according to the user. My cable company has pornography channels, but you need to be of age to access those channels. I applaud BlackBerry in not restricting what can be delivered over the App World just because some religious or enlightened asshole has a problem with gambling or porn.
By the way, the BlackBerry PlayBook is great as you can watch porn on it, spunk on the display and easily clean if off.
Dear CIO dot COM by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-24 15:17 · Score: 0

I just wanted to take this opportunity to welcome you to the electronic age and to the Internet. Just a tip for you that pornography and gambling (the work of the very devil himself) is readily available on nearly every open and closed platform, mobile or fixed that exists today.
I can appreciate your wanting to elevate your cute little website by attempting to cast RIM in a bad light as Research in Motion is already in the media quite a bit lately. You may as well jump on the bandwagon as it's fashionable to kick someone while they are down it seems. Too bad Microsoft wasn't doing this on their Windows Phone platform too so you could take a dump on both companies simultaneously and be a real champion!
Excellent move stating that you admit to not seeing any apps of "that" nature, and that you think it's "good" that the company is not restricting apps based on content. By doing this, you have successfully convinced me that you are an unbiased contributor that has nothing personal against RIM. I trust you have no ulterior motive at this point - thank goodness you made those comments, I feel much better about your impartiality now.
I wanted to thank-you for crow-barring a quote from Steve Jobs into an article related to RIM. It's really important to always compare what everyone else is doing against Apple. It was a real eye opener knowing that the immortalized Steve Jobs is still protecting all of us users by not permitting pornographic or gambling applications on our phones - what a terrible world it would be if I could play cards or see some boobies on my phone. Steve Jobs, thanks for looking out for us.
Mr. Sacco, admit it, you have an iPhone and love it don't you? Fact is, RIM now has a mechanism in place where content can be classified and filtered according to the user. My cable company has pornography channels, but you need to be of age to access those channels. I applaud BlackBerry in not restricting what can be delivered over the App World just because some religious or enlightened mental case has a problem with gambling or porn.
By the way, the BlackBerry PlayBook is great as you can watch porn on it, splunk on the display and easily clean if off. Gotta do this anyways, because you always get fingers prints on the screen - good opportunity for some house keeping!
Thats what I call a RIM Job by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-24 15:23 · Score: 0

thank you thank you -- i'll be performing tonite at RIM Joint
I don't recall any time by Stan92057 · 2012-02-24 16:14 · Score: 1

I don't recall any time RIM saying they have the same morals as apple claims it has. Like it or not sex sells and it looks like RIMs going to feel out the water They owe it to their stockholders to try whatever they can to make money.

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RIM? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-24 18:26 · Score: 0

Who's that?
push comes to shove by mr_walrus · 2012-02-24 18:45 · Score: 1

well, didnt RIM really develop 'push' technology? :)
Re:no-porn + app store lock in = anit trust MS / a by toriver · 2012-02-24 21:43 · Score: 1

At least if you side-load apps. Google's Android Marketplace terms also ban porn, but are enforced after the fact, it seems.
More T! by SgtChaireBourne · 2012-02-24 23:15 · Score: 1

More T!

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Porn, Gambling? I'm in. by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-25 00:15 · Score: 0

All right RIM, you've sold me: porn and gambling on the blackberry is the way forward. You know what, forget the blackberry.
In puritan US of A, that's news! by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-25 02:06 · Score: 0

In puritan US of A, that's news!
What a crock of .... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-25 02:36 · Score: 0

If a company's subscriber base grows by 25% in the past 12 months, are they desperate?
Sorry, just fed up with all the misinformation in the US. I am more and more convinced of a conspiracy by Apple as every day goes by.
FACT: RIM is growing (get your heads out of your US is the world ass holes)
FACT: RIM is debt free
FACT: RIM is generating BILLIONS in free cash flow each year
FACT: Unless you drive a Ford, you probably have QNX in your vehicle.
FACT: If you actually pick up a playbook that costs half of the iPad cost .... you'd probably buy the playbook since it does pretty much the same thing as an iPad.
FACT: In Canada, The Playbook is actually eroding the iPad market share, not the other way around.
IRONY: I've seen apps at i tunes that are sexual in nature. APPLE IS DESPERATE! Where the hell is that headline
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Re:no-porn + app store lock in = anit trust MS / a by UnknowingFool · 2012-02-25 02:53 · Score: 1

Yes but crying "anti-trust" because MS or Apple wants to impose conditions you don't like is not understanding what the term means.

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Canadian dollars by Latent+Heat · 2012-02-25 03:05 · Score: 1

Yeah, but that is in Canadian Dollars . . . yeah? . . . oh? . . . never mind!
Re:I hope the gambling apps will be tested to be f by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-25 05:08 · Score: 0

Two words... Las Vegas.
Re:I hope the gambling apps will be tested to be f by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-25 05:24 · Score: 0

Heavily weighted is fine, same as a casino. 0 chance of actually coming out ahead is not fine.
Not FUD by zioncat · 2012-02-25 10:18 · Score: 1

The graphic seems to be a crop of actual "content ratings table" found on App World.

You can see it in this article. If you go to app page linked in the article and click on its rating, the aforementioned table does appear.
There is *nothing wrong* by drolli · 2012-02-25 11:58 · Score: 1

if a company allows customers to buy apps from providers, given that both parties are fully aware of what is sold and how much is paid.
When i buy a device, i don not hire a nanny. At least i cant remember having signed a contract which forces the manufacturer of my phones to watch over my habits.
If we decide that gambling apps are bad due to the addiction they may cause, lets make a well-defined law about it. If we can not show that then *please* let the customers buy it. If we can show that porn causes rape (which i dont believe), then lets make a law about it. Otherwise lets focus on the conditions under which porn is produced.
I find it a good thing that i have the freedom to buy (respectively: not to buy) porn or gambling apps.
shopping malls and video stores by Anonymous Coward · 2012-02-25 18:38 · Score: 0

I live near a shopping mall that was dying but got new management and over the last several years has recovered and is now an important part of the neighbourhood. Lots of new stores and lots of people around all the time. Naturally the video store noticed the recovery and closed last year. So I would say the opposite is true as well.
Any chance? by aaronb1138 · 2012-02-25 21:41 · Score: 1

Is there any chance this will reduce the number of older MBA's on Wall St. from gambling with other people's money and blowing their salary on hookers?
Alas, I fear even few of them use BlackBerries anymore...