Another Afghan School Poisoned — 160 Girls Hospitalized
An anonymous reader writes "Back in April, we discussed news of an anti-education attack on an Afghani school, which poisoned 150 Afghan schoolgirls. Now, a hospital in the same province has admitted 160 more girls who seem to have suffered a similar attack. 'Their classrooms might have been sprayed with a toxic material before the girls entered, police spokesman Khalilullah Aseer said. He blamed the Taliban. The incident, the second in a week's time, was reported at the Aahan Dara Girls School in Taluqan, the provincial capital. The girls, ages 10 to 20, complained of headaches, dizziness and vomiting before being taken to the hospital, said Hafizullah Safi, director of the provincial health department. More than half of them were discharged within a few hours of receiving treatment, Safi said. The health department collected blood samples and sent them to Kabul for testing.'"
What does this have to do with /.?
How is one culture supposed to judge another culture? Everything is relative...
Until you actually get told otherwise by your conscience.
Except for ending slavery, the Nazis, communism, & securing American independence, war has never solved anything.
This is what happens when too many people believe too literally in 1000 year old witch craft.
And this is exactly where the US could be heading if the current 50% of the population gets any stronger. Rick Santorum was as scary to the US as Hitler was to Germany. If we let nutcases like that become president, which a large number of people supported, this will be common in the US as well.
slashdot troll = you make a compelling argument I do not like the implications of.
Not anti-education.
And that is why there are a bunch of hairy dudes cuddling each other in caves in the mountains instead of being at home cudling with their wives.
even if they want a society in which women are subservient, they still need women. Even at the most basic level, you cannot have sons without a mother. It is a pity, though, that some people feel so threatened by others of different gender (or race, education, etc) that they must resort to violence.
from the Religion of Peace (tm)
Note to US: let someone else try and police the mess this time.
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Make the schools coeducated. The Taliban will be pissed but hopefully they wouldn't attack boys.
Sahih Bukhari 3:48:826
And this is hardly the instance of this in Islam.
Uh I don't think you get the import. This wasn't an attack against random women, it was an attack against women seeking an education. They are aware that they need women. They would rather those women stay at home and spit out then take care of sons rather than seek to better themselves.
The message is: Women who seek to become educated will be targeted with violence. Remain at home, weak, ignorant, and dependent. Then there will be slightly less^W^W no violence.
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And this is exactly where the US could be heading if the current 50% of the population gets any stronger. Rick Santorum was as scary to the US as Hitler was to Germany. If we let nutcases like that become president, which a large number of people supported, this will be common in the US as well.
Most Americans do not really believe in religion, and only identify with Christianity because they think they should, and the certainly are not Muslims.
The truth is that while many people are vaguely âoespiritualâ, most people no longer attend church regularly if at all, and only a small percentage of so-called âoeChristiansâ in this country can tell you anything at all about the Bible, old or new.
There are people who bleat about this being a âoeChristian Nationâ, but statistically, factually, it isnâ(TM)t so. I donâ(TM)t think it can even be proven that we are a âoecertainly not a Muslim nationâ, either.
We are mostly agnostic.
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How is one culture supposed to judge another culture? Everything is relative...
Until you actually get told otherwise by your conscience.
Well, from my philosophy courses in college (as financially useless as they may have been) there's actually been a lot of study and attempts to codify what should be regarded as Universal rights. There's no need for us to rely on our "conscious" or someone else's conscious nor should we sit back if we feel that human rights are being abused in another nation that is sovereign. I'm a very liberal open minded person. If you want to worship some stupid magic person in the sky, go to town. If they start to infringe upon others' life, liberty and pursuit of happiness, then we have issues that must be remedied.
Your lax definition of a 'Conscious' be damned, begin the escalation of political pressure then economic pressure then physical pressure.
Sort of on topic, from your signature:
Except for ending slavery, the Nazis, communism, & securing American independence, war has never solved anything.
The Nazis were stopped because they blatantly violated (nearly) everyone's rules of Universal Human Rights -- so much so that many of their own detested it. And we should not allow something like the Holocaust to happen again. Communism, on the other hand, is a counter case. We went into Vietnam under the laughable pretenses that a Universal Human Right is capitalism in place of communism (with obvious self interests). Believe it or not, communism does not blatantly violate everyone's rules of Universal Human Rights and so we were kind of lacking on the support and moral high ground for that war. If you think communism has been "ended" and that it has been "ended" by war and not inherent corruption that it can't seem to shake -- you and I must be reading different books by very different authors.
To recap, Universal Human Rights transcend your suggestion of relativity. I'm not sure but if you're attempting to make fun of people who tolerate other cultures by saying it's relative, there's no place for that when you're dealing with a child's life and their attempt to be educated.
My work here is dung.
The conclusion jumped to is that this is a Taliban attack. However, this is actually quite a common - though unexplained - phenomenon: Mass Hysteria.
Even a good (large) hospital will have problems dealing with 160 patients admitted simultaneously. Afghanistan's hospitals are hardly stellar (0.4 beds per 1000 people, according to google). It shouldn't be surprising that they don't keep wonderfully accurate records in cases like this.
The "Sahih" in this means that the source and the chain of narration of the Hadith is considered to be trustworthy. Of all Sahih Hadith, al-Bukhari is considered the most trustworthy. This means that to the average Muslim, there can be no doubt that Mohammed said this, and therefore that it must be true.
There is a very small minority of Muslims who reject all Hadith, believing only the Quran is authoritative and that it actually bans following texts such as Hadith. Mainstream Islam considers them to be apostates. Too bad, you remove Hadith, you remove much of the backwards, nasty stuff about the religion.
It's an Afghan school, not Afghani. Afghani is their currency.
It used to be a rather progressive nation in terms of women's rights. I recall a figure that about 60% of doctors there were women at one time. Now, we can directly and indirectly blame the mess that country has become on 30 years of foreign intervention.
I swear to God...I swear to God! That is NOT how you treat your human!
muslim population is growing. cultures that abuse women have increasing population rate. you'll notice cultures that have more freedom for women have shrinking population. Given a choice and education and opportunity and prosperity, most women have less than 2.1 children
MAYBE if you actually read a book you might learn WHY Muslims have such high need of FEMALE doctors. That is because female patients have to be seen by a female doctor or not at all. The statistic sounds so nice but underneath it is a regime of segregated care where QUALITY of care was of no importance whatsoever.
And 60% of doctors also tells you nothing of the total number of doctors available OR that women (childbirth) need doctors a LOT more then men.
Careful with your statistics young one, they can be tricky things and easily be used to fool you.
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You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
Santorum would have women barefoot and pregnant
What, all of them, simultaneously? I must have missed that speech.
Examine the average American co-ed for the effect of education. (SAFETY REQUIREMENT: Latex gloves, face shield).
This hadith has nothing to do with education or with poisoning girls. It's about witnessing in court.
I do not believe in karma. "Funny"=-6. Do good and forbid evil. Yours, Oft-Offtopic Flamebaiting Troll.
My Scotts-Irish mom would teach them how to mash balls and turn men into meek church mice.
Look up a bit of history on the Taliban. When it started they had death squads roaming around the refugee camps in Pakistan killing anyone with enough education to be considered a potential political threat. To sustain rule by the mediocre you have to remove or contain anyone that exhibits more ability to run the country than yourself. Other places do it by the mediocre banding together into large well financed parties, but the Taliban did it with bullets.
Anyone that would poison a bunch of young women for having the audacity to want to get educated has clearly already been infected themselves by a toxic mind-virus. (in this case some hopelessly perverted sub-cult of islam presumably.)
Seriously, can we just stop navel-gazing about slashdot rules and acknowledge that there is some seriously f*cked up behavior going on here by some maladjusted maniacs, who are probably just miffed that educated women would never consider dating them.
Where are we going and why are we in a handbasket?
The Cold War utterly dwarfed the current Al Qaeda/Talisquabble, including 9/11, and cost far more casualties.
While the 1970s have passed from living memory, in those ancient times the world was racked with contention between great nuclear kingdoms. They waged "proxy wars" because Mutual Assured Destruction preserved the world from nuclear war as it does now....
Part of wearing down the US was entangling it in the Viet Nam conflict, and part of wearing down the Soviets was wearing them down with an equally worthless set of local clients in Afghanistan.
The US then made the mistake of trying to teach a pig to sing (which never works and annoys the pig) and must now extricate itself from a trap baited with American hubris.
"This post is an artistic work of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact."
Pay attention, politically and historically ignorant AC:
We went to war to get AL QAEDA.
There was never a prospect of turning Kabul into San Francisco.
We cannot make Muslims convert to free-thinking.
What happened was "mission creep", and it cost the US dearly. Unlike Iraq, A-stan has Pakistan for a neighbor and the "Pakiban" government hate our guts as they take our money to arm against India.
"This post is an artistic work of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact."
A Communist enables all Communists by being Communist, and so does a Superstitionist enable all his/her fellow Delusionals.
Religion, ALL of it, is based on lies. No Sky Fairie can be proven, and therefore there is no reason to treat belief in such fantastic absurdity with other than contempt.
The modern anti-education movements are ALL religionist.
"This post is an artistic work of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact."
Mass hysteria is most common in schoolgirls, especially in strict environments. Reports of incidents go back hundreds of years occurring in many countries, 12 schoolgirls in LeRoy New York last December, 85 schoolgirls in a school in Blackburn, England in 1965, 600 schoolgirls in Girls Town school in Mexico in 2006, etc, etc. One clue in Afghanistan is that the teachers don't get sick. There are other forms of mass hysteria, including contagious laughter and dancing, (Eijanaika in Japan)... In Nigeria, Congo, Thailand and Singapore there have been outbreaks of penis theft mass hysteria, where adult men believe they have been robbed of their pride and joy by magic. There are lots of articles about the phenomena and various books... Most striking here is that so many Slashdot readers just swallowed the story without thinking.
Serbian war criminals.
I could go on.
But you will never accept the truth.
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OK, so you've stated that there are bad people that are not Muslims. Are any of these groups Christian based and supported by Christians world wide? Do they receive the approval from Christian leaders like Billy Graham or the Pope?
Didn't think so. Try again. This time provide a list of CHRISTIAN terrorists who have perpetrated acts in the name of Christ that are comparable to 9-11 or even the hanging of homosexuals in Iran.
Until then, I'll gladly accept the truth when you provide it.
There is no "I disagree" mod for a reason. Flamebait, Troll, and Overrated are not substitutes.
Shitheads will be shitheads.
1.- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cristero_War
2.- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francoist_Spain
3.- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Republican_Army
4.- http://www.cfr.org/terrorist-organizations/northern-ireland-loyalist-paramilitaries-uk-extremists/p9274
And for the support for this morons in modern times, I can only say that the current president of Mexico is the son of a cristero courier founder of a political party that in WWII was close to Nazi Germany, and also supported by a catholic extremist organization called "El Yunque", "The Anvil" with strong presence in Mexico and Spain. Their predecessors under the MURO banner made several terrorist attacks in Mexico in the late 1960's and 1970's. The movie "La Cristiada", "For Greater Glory" is only a propaganda piece that whitewashes the crimes and murders that these bastards made in 1920's with the explicit support of the Pope. Now it is used for stupid statements like this:
CRISTIADA - Film on the Brutal Liberal-Masonic Persecution Against the Faith of the Mexican People
On reality, the Cristero war had a strong religious basis but it had also a very strong economic component since it was a landowner's war against land reform, and used the ignorant masses as pawns to protect their economic interests. In their ignorance Cristero's killed protestants and jews for the crime of not being catholic and murdered or mutilated thousands of teachers and burned dozens of schools. The increasing power of the heirs of these loons in Mexico is what made me to stop attending Mass and stop calling myself a catholic.
Mexico: 100% conservative's America now!