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An anonymous reader writes "Sho Yano this week will become the youngest student to get an M.D. from University of Chicago. He was reading at age 2, writing by 3, and composing music by his 5th birthday. He graduated from Loyola University in three years — summa cum laude, no less. When he entered U. of C.'s prestigious Pritzker School of Medicine at 12, it was into one of the school's most rigorous programs, where students get both their doctorate and medical degrees. Intelligence is not Yano's only gift — though according to a test he took at age 4, his IQ is too high to accurately measure and is easily above genius level. He is an accomplished pianist who has performed at Ravinia, and he has a black belt in tae kwon do. Classmates and faculty described him as 'sweet' and 'humble,' a hardworking, Bach-adoring, Greek literature-quoting student. And in his own words, 'I may not be the most outgoing person, but I do like to be around people.'"
>Despite his gifts, success was not guaranteed. Several medical schools wanted no part of him because of maturity questions. Even at Pritzker, some faculty members worried they would be robbing him of a normal adolescence. On a college campus, he was a natural target for wisecracks. Some asked harsh questions about whether his mother was pushing him somewhere he didn't belong.
Now Imagine if he had mutant powers...
by TheSpoom (715771) Uncaring Linux user here. I have nothing to add to this but please continue. *munches popcorn*
Hopefully he will go into research and stay away from patients, because there's more to being a successful clinician than sheer brain-power, and most of it comes with experience and invariably, age.
always good to hear that someone is excelling at a young age like this kid. i just hope he doesnt feel like he missed on life experiences later in life. i cant imagine if prodigies feel that they missed out on college-keggers, or proms or things like that.
What a snob!
She and Dr Robert Chase didn't really kiss in House MD, it was just a plot device! CO out
[citation needed]
Sounds like he's headed to spend the next five years as a pediatrician resident. What strikes me is this: After all the acceleration, does he end up simple having a professional career that's ten years longer than normal? Without some exceptional accomplishments along the way, it might not have been the best trade-off.
True it isn't the best but there is a rather nice coordination between smart people and higher IQs.
He'll go into obscurity for a few years. Then, out of the blue, he'll show up to help the real-life Harold and Kumar and then become a womanizer in NY on a real-life "How I Met Your Mother".
There is no "I disagree" mod for a reason. Flamebait, Troll, and Overrated are not substitutes.
My father was someone like that, IQ literally off the charts, used by the University of Chicago to help calibrate IQ tests for people with IQ's over 200. Multiple degrees for the sake of multiple degrees, the whole nine yards. Did his buddy's doctorate thesis for his PhD in an unrelated field just to help him out, and his buddy is now a leading expert in his field. People's expectations were off the charts with how they how wanted to exploit him. His own expectations of himself and others became unfathomably high.
Had trouble his entire life connecting to normal people, even people of normal genius level intelligence had trouble relating with him. He thought so far ahead of everyone else that he even thought ahead of himself. When you spend so much time thinking past tomorrow you have trouble living for today. The result was this life was a mess and the practical details of his life were something that I often had to to take care of for him.
Being a genius is an accident of birth, being a genius compared to other geniuses is arguably more of a curse than a gift. In the end the longer he lived the more he learned to dumb himself down when around others. It was a social survival skill. I do not envy the person in this article.
IF only the school systems in america werent structured how they are I imagine that we could have many folks finishing schooling much earlier than 18 and college a few years later..
I know many students who were held back merely because they had to wait to go on to the next year.. at best put in an "advanced placement" course..
we could easily have students graduating highschool at 14 or 15 ...if not sooner.. with the 'smart' ones beating that.. all of the time.. but.... it just doesnt seem to happen
I do wish people would stop using that as some sort of gauge of intelligence - it has very little to do with intelligence, and just modernity.
Sure, but the only thing worse than an IQ test is every other form of intelligence measure. Claiming that the test has issues (it does) should not be used to divert attention from the fact that some people are very smart while others are mind-bogglingly stupid.
It's like saying that thermometers suck because they don't account for wind chill, humidex, UV exposure or different peoples' metabolism. You may be correct, but I'm still going to check the temperature before going outside.
When you have nothing left to burn you must set yourself on fire
I went to school with Sho at Mirman in Los Angeles. Humble? But, of course, this was before puberty, so things may have changed. As for gifted, I wouldn't know since I didn't really understand the deeper meaning of anything he had to say. And this from a student who also wen tot a school for gifted children. Looking back on the experience, I wish I had been gifted a little more like Harry Reems and a little less like Sho.
Please excuse jgtg32a, he didn't get into MENSA, either.
:-)
I do wish people would stop using that as some sort of gauge of intelligence - it has very little to do with intelligence, and just modernity.
[citation needed]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iq#Criticism_and_views
Perhaps you just don't hear about their childhoods after they've found success, but I always hear stories about these geniuses graduated X years early, but rarely about their professional accomplishments.
I swear to God...I swear to God! That is NOT how you treat your human!
Someone is crying because he couldn't get into MENSA? Dude EVERYONE gets into MENSA... er except you.
My cat got into Mensa
As such, the path he has chosen is good news for diseased children. However, humanity as a species isn't affected by those personnal tragedies he decided to focus on. On the other hand, there's a number of subjects in physics, genetics or even medecine that could have had a much wider impact.
Yes, I'm aware such a way of thinking classifies into the cold-hearted bastards category.
I'd almost prefer him go into music... none of my business of course... it's just that exceptional people probably do the most good doing something creative. Be that expanding our understanding in science or advancing something in one of the arts or inventing something in some form of engineering.
He's a 21 year old kid that has spent a lot of his time hitting the books harder then anyone. And he can do whatever wants. The best of luck to him.
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I hate having to RTFM just to find the one key point.
Editors: Stop burying your leads!
Except for, you know, all the things the IQ predicts with strong correlation. You know, useful extrapolation, a fundamental tenant of science. Within that category of things, there's all sorts of things IQ is useful as a predictive gauge for:
*Productivity of new employees without previous experience in the field
*Income(up until about IQ 120, where huge diminishing returns take effect)
*Crime rates and recidivism rates
*Lifespan
*Chance of acquiring an advanced degree
*Political views
You know, other than all those major, life-impacting things, IQ doesn't predict anything.
I believe judging an individual on a single characteristic is both pointless and wrong. I just take issue with the meme that IQ is somehow irrelevant or useless as a means to understanding human intelligence. It reflects an ignorance of the observed reality we live in.
I don't know any genius level people, but I know 3 who were fast-tracked through high school and graduated very prestigious colleges at 17/18. They all went on to get PhDs, and they all failed out for the same reason: sometime during their PhD they wanted to try to re-live their youth as they should have, and began acting like teenagers again again. Drinking, partying, getting in trouble.... these guys were the smartest guys I knew, but each one, on their own, managed to derail their careers because they completely missed their youth.
Not saying this kid is in any danger of going down the same path... maybe his massive intellect will divert him from temptation. But every time I hear about someone graduating college exceedingly young, I always wonder when their fuse is going to run out.
He will now be taking charge of a research program on the effects of alcohol on a brilliant young mind.
I don't think there are stupid people. Just people who are smart in different ways, and I don't think I'm the only one.
Please spend an afternoon in a jury selection pool and then let us know if you'd like to change your hypothesis.
I'm familiar with some of those criticisms. Stephen Jay Gould is perhaps one of the most prominent ones. Unfortunately Gould himself has been discredited when it was recently (1-2 years ago IIRC) that he was basically making up stuff in "Mismeasure".
Some of the other people think that 'g' is too restrictive of a measurement and misses out on some other aspects of cognition. While I agree to some extent that there is more to us than just mere g, g itself (as proxied by IQ scores) has been shown to be an extremely reliable predictor of success and personal outcomes in life. So far, I've seen no real substantive rebuttal to that.
and you can't put the age he's at now/getting the degree at into the summary? PFFT..
Bad summary-
every day http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Random
There's this thing called "google" which can be helpful. I mean, you're already on the net in a browser, it's not hard. Heck, just going directly to wikipedia gets you the hit in one try.
Where are the Alphas when you need them?
Harrison's Postulate - "For every action there is an equal and opposite criticism"
You can come up with basically any test and intelligent people will get high scores on it. Intelligence means general problem-solving skills, and intelligent paople will perform better than average under any conditions. The problem with IQ is not that it gives low scores to intelligent people, but that it has a large number of false positives, and that is basically unreliable in accurately measuring average people.
Sincerely, learn to fucking google. I highlighted the words and right clicked to the answer.
Good-bye
real geniuses produce breakthroughs in art, science and technology. paper geniuses collect academic credentials.
so far all this kid has proved is that he has the academic game figured out.
Yes, people are smart in different ways. Some people excel in multiple categories. Others barely budge the needle across the board. The latter are what we call 'stupid people'.
Have gnu, will travel.
IQ tests like many forms of test is a way to quantify peoples abilities. People with High measured IQ tend to be more intelligent then people with low IQ. However there are a lot of factors that goes into be an intelligent or a mentally useful person. However the IQ is a form of measurement, and chances are your performance will coincide with the standard distribution level you are in.
The last time I was formally tested for my IQ I was in middle school, they did it not to rate how smart each child is, but to find underachiever in the system were they can get extra help. At the Time my IQ was above average, it wasn't genius, but it was strong. Later because I had problems in school with writing I had a bunch of other tests taken, it showed my Reading Skills was Average, my Writing Skills were near remedial, but my Abstract Reasoning was Genius. While I have worked on my reading and writing skills, which it seems every Grammar Nazi points out, is one of those setbacks that hold me back, however my stronger skills, I have learned to compensate and relay more on them to help push me further. To be honest I have judged my life to be Well above average compared to my peers.
The IQ test seemed to average a persons intelligence. But it doesn't mean that they overall stupid or smart, it is just an average. As people may have stronger skills and weaker skills, and unlike Role Playing games, they are not fare and balanced, You can get The Super Smart Kids, who is good with people, and is a good athlete too, you can also get the Weak Little Kid, who had severe learning problems, and is just a complete jerk.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
What's a "Doogie Howser" ?!
the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
I do wish people would stop using that as some sort of gauge of intelligence - it has very little to do with intelligence, and just modernity.
[citation needed]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iq#Criticism_and_views
Now that's just plain funny...
Only to idiots, are orders laws.
-- Henning von Tresckow
Even if IQ was the best method doesn't mean that we should rely on it as a precise measurement of intelligence. Maybe intelligence is too variable, complex and human to be measured in a single number? Just because current weather forecast is the best we have, I'm not going to leave my water-sensitive stuff in the garden for weeks even if they don't predict rain, because I know that it's not that accurate.
I'm reading now "Emotional Intelligence" and this book talks about how only the IQ is not the only key to success in life. There is also some information about how persons IQ-centric often lack some social skills
Slashdot ya no es que lo era!
Dr House.
Have gnu, will travel.
I don't think there are stupid people. Just people who are smart in different ways,[...]
Someone clearly didn't work in tech support when he/she was younger.
Six months of that and it should be pretty clear to anyone with a couple of neurons still firing that yes, there are stupid people. In fact, stupid people are very likely to call tech support, not just because their internet connection is down but because the power is out, they don't like their neighbor or they just plain feel like yelling profanities at someone who works for a company they have no relationship to.
Greylisting is to SMTP as NAT is to IPv4
How about a measurement at some point that matters?
This just in: all children 6 months old are super geniuses! None of them can be accurately IQ tested!
Do one now, find out that yes, he's very gifted with work ethic and otherwise he's pretty run of the mill smart. I'd be shocked if he was over 200, and floored if he was substantially over it.
Some asked harsh questions about whether his mother was pushing him somewhere he didn't belong.
That Tiger Mom can push as hard as she wants. There is simply no way Mark Zuckerberg is going to marry a dude!
Those are great examples of luck-based factors.
Other luck-based factors are things like when you start your company (the timing feels sort of right but is the market really ready for your product? or maybe you've already missed the boat? This obviously isn't all luck but to a large degree it is, sometimes the difference between the winner and the also ran can be that the winner had a slightly crappier product but ever so slightly better timing) and minor marketing choices (your research shows both advertising campaigns should result in a 20-50% increase in sales but the truth is that six months down the line one will give you a 200% increase in sales, the other will only get you a 20% increase, which one should you pick if all the research shows them to be equal? What if I told you a factor is a random celebrity making some statement on TV two weeks after you've chosen which one to pick? Didn't make it easier now, did it?).
Greylisting is to SMTP as NAT is to IPv4
Okay, let's extend the analogy further.
So you've proven that a thermometer provides inadequate data to make the decision on how to plan one's dress for the day.
You've then implied that perhaps IQ tests as measuring tools are similarly faulty.
But surely your solution to this is not to abandon thermometers in favor of other measurements exclusively? Surely the correct thing to do is to use thermometers in concert with the other data they cannot provide. Much as is done in practice in meteorology today.
And if that *is* the correct approach, how does it discredit the use of IQ tests? Would they not continue to be appropriate for use (assuming the analogy is a valid one) in concert with other data that they cannot measure, just as thermometers are?
Does this not support Lev13than's ultimate point that the test may not provide all desirable useful data, but it none the less still provides useful data?
Touch everywhere, even when inappropriate.
Doogie Howser was a doctor at 16, five years earlier!
U mad?
I hope not to the German Mensa: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mensa
Even Albert Einstein got a divorce. I think whatever gifts this young man has will be dogged and encumbered by being labeled a sideshow freak--even in the best possible way. Look at the biography of William Sidis. Even taking into account the myth-making of genius/madness, I see little benefit of being a prodigy, but I see a lot of attention addiction and other maladies that may choke out a fulfilled and happy life.
Davidson, who was on the same OB-GYN rotation, recalled the teenage Yano's reaction to witnessing his first birth. "He just looked at all of us and said, 'There's got to be a better way.'"
While Yano's intelligence is simply amazing, there is a sad side to this story. Yano was virtually robbed of his youth and part of being young is playing with toys and exercising one's imagination. Youth is something you don't get back and he was jet propelled into becomming an adult. This is learning to run before you learn to walk. I hope that Yano doesn't regret not really having a youth.
Or the spanish mensa
What is generally recognized though is that the accuracy of the test also diminishes at greater than 120. Richard Feynman had an IQ of 'only' 125.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CGIQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FRichard_Feynman&ei=re7MT9foDIKE8ATci_2lDg&usg=AFQjCNFlZ7QHTlH2GfvFMOBQXefQcbolfQ
love is just extroverted narcissism
This, just... wow. I didn't think it was possible to be more self-deprecating, but I think I managed to.
It was deliberate. And you're welcome.
Sounds like he's all set to lose his virginity at age 34.
I'm the real Vorokrytin P. Winterbuttocks.
Unless you were making some kind of obscure pun, I believe the word you were looking for is 'correlation' not 'coordination'....
Yeah, correlation doesn't necessarily imply coordination. I thought everyone knew that.
Composing music is something an average 5 year old does.
If he's that bright, he'll be earning mad money before he's 25. If he's earning 100k+ by that age, he'll be driving a Porsche and banging chicks like a rock star.
Sorry, but that easily replaces a childhood with toys.
What's sad is that you identify this kid as sad because he was rushed to adulthood, when there are millions of kids also robbed of their childhood because of poverty, and a lack of opportunity to advance like this kid did, simply because they were born into some shithole.
And that shithole could even be in the USA -- many areas of this country are devastated by crime and poverty -- some kids don't even get to make it to his age, they are killed by stray gunfire, or in some even worse places (in the third world), sold off to slavers, or turned into child soldiers. Other kids here in the USA join gangs because there is no other choice.
If he makes good money while he's young enough to enjoy it, it will trump any and all childhood 'play'. Don't be sad for this kid, turn your empathy towards those that actually need it.
If telephones are outlawed, then only outlaws will have telephones.
"Maybe intelligence is too variable, complex and human to be measured in a single number?"
Anything can be measured in a single number, the question is 'how useful and predictive' is this number? With IQ, the empirical answer is "reasonably but not universally predictive".
There actually is a technical point behind IQ. If you measure performance across all sorts of cognitive (and sometimes other) aspects, appropriately normalize the subscores and then look at the principal component (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principal_component_analysis) across large samples of individuals you observe a phenomenon: a significant (though not total) fraction of the variance can be explained by the single, largest principal component called 'g' in psychometric literature. This phenomenon did not have to be true empirically, but it is, and the degree to which it is true is also quantifiable.
In a nutshell, people who perform high or low on some subsets are also substantially more likely to perform high or low on other cognitively-oriented subtasks.
So, yes, "intelligence" does mean something and is a fact of Nature. Note, that of course, the subjects typically tested on an 'IQ' test have now been post-hoc chosen to be those which have high g-loading, i.e. are substantially correlated within individuals.
If the typically tested tasks had also included, for instance *) ability to sing on tune *) ability to catch thrown balls while running, *) ability to distinguish odors *) ability to discern emotions in faces, etc, all of which clearly require brainpower, their "loading on the principal component of IQ" would be substantially weaker than the correlation between performance on predicting numerical sequences and analogies in natural language.
Just as I started reading this story, Rod Stewart's "Some guys have all the luck" played on the iPod. Spooky.
If telephones are outlawed, then only outlaws will have telephones.
> Davidson, who was on the same OB-GYN rotation, recalled the teenage Yano's reaction to witnessing his first birth. "He just looked at all of us and said, 'There's got to be a better way.'"
First I laughed, but later I asked: what, exactly, is "better"? Certainly we can all easily come up with ideas on what is better for the mother and the baby, but what is better for humanity? That is not an easy question.
Someone clearly didn't work in tech support when he/she was younger...stupid people are very likely to call tech support
Selection bias. You may believe there are more stupid people than there are simply because a disproportionate amount of your interactions have been with stupid people. Additionally, stupidity, ignorance, and laziness all have similar symptoms, so it's easy to mix them up.
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I don't think there are stupid people. Just people who are smart in different ways
Is there any particular evidence to support your belief, or do you just hold to it because it's a nice, politically correct thing to believe into that doesn't offend anyone?
According to the article, he's a medical scientist with an MD. PhD.
His desire is to "make a great contribution". Presumably, that means to humanity, and not to his bank account.
I spoke to your cat, she deserved it, that dissertation on tongue bathing was genius.
The statement I replied to was "I don't think there are stupid people". If you manage six months of tech support and come out believing there are no stupid people only "people who are smart in different ways" then I'll be amazed. They are out there. Statistically they make up a large portion of the population (just look at the normal distribution curve for IQ and tell me with a straight face that the 30% on the far left of the curve aren't stupid, have you ever met someone with a sub 60 or so IQ? That's stupid no matter how you cut it).
Greylisting is to SMTP as NAT is to IPv4
if this kid wants to be successful he needs to go to Wall St. everything else is for chumps.
As a child prodigy, it is presumable that by an early age he's already figured out what you have, in all your years, failed to - that the endless pursuit of little green pieces of paper is, ultimately, an idiotic endeavor.
An enigma, wrapped in a riddle, shrouded in bacon and cheese
Perhaps its corrugation and cardboard was involved?
Can someone start by giving me a concise definition of what "intelligence" is? Ive asked folks who stand by the IQ test, and I dont think I've ever gotten a good answer yet.
Well, 120 is one standard deviation, so I suppose I believe that.
The fact that all that is true(except the allegation that IQ testing is fundamentally racist) doesn't have any baring on the fact that what I said is also true. What's your point?
The other problem is finding tests that function across a broad operating range of intelligence. As intelligence rises, perception expands and the kind of patterns and associations that can and are made don't simply increase in number but differ vastly in kind and complexity. So the kinds of things a person with a can perceive differ significantly from those a person of . Building effective tests at the top end of the scale is difficult, It's hard for people to project a meaningful set of problems into the realm of a mind functioning at above genius level. These are nonlinear processes and models of intelligence often break when dealing with extraordinary people.
Life is like a box of chocolates... Its composed primarily of complex sugars, lipids and fatty acids... -- Dr. Forest Gump Jr.
I don't care how you map the multiple dimensions of intelligence, there are people somewhere who will end on the short end of the stick in multiple even all dimensions. These folks are the stupid people. They walk among us. Some even get elected to high office. Half the population by definition has to be of below average intelligence, and I can honestly say I've met a fair number of folks who were... let's just say slow on the draw. Not bad or evil... just not bright.
Measuring IQ is purported to be based on valid scientific methodologies, is it not?
Since in my opinion it is, I feel not only is it right to continously question its methods and validity, we would be doing a dishonor to ourselves and society if accepted that single metric as a wholesale indicator for someones place in this world.
Bluntly put, we are not masters of Intelligence, learning and how that relates to the individuals place in society writ large. I don't think the latter is what IQ necessarily strives to do, but one need only look at the controversy surrounding 'The Bell Curve' to see that humanity still has a lot of growing up to do. Especially when it comes to measuring Intelligence as a means to progress and improve society.
Something close but not exactly like a Doody Howitzer.
Shite projectiles!
Now, there is a bad mental image!
Why is it that most of the people that I encounter seem to have been shat from the Sphincter of Mediocrity?
The fib. projection for 34-virginity assumes he's been on a date by 21. If not then date at 34, virginity at 55.
Who said it was a singular metric. It is a metric. I suppose I have lower expectations from science, especially psychological science, but having predictive objective measures of complex systems is useful, even when they don't necessarily tell the whole story.
It measures one thing, and as we develop more useful predictive tools, IQ may eventually fall to the wayside, or possibly act in conjunction with the new discoveries. I don't the problem.
but I'm still going to check the temperature before going outside.
I'm still just going to poke my head out the door or window.
Well, there seems to be a strong correlation between scoring high on our "modernity" tests and graduating medical school, becoming an accomplished pianist, earning a black belt, composing music, being an accomplished pianist, and just plain being a genius.
Please spend an afternoon in a jury selection pool and then let us know if you'd like to change your hypothesis.
Oh, you think spending your time with potential jurors is bad? Wait until you are selected and reach deliberation.
The Daddy casts sleep on the Baby. The Baby resists!
He lost his genius cred in my book, when he decided to pursue a martial art that focuses on a combat range (ie kicking) which is the hardest to maintain. The school yard bullies can eat up for breakfast.
I'm not talking about the giant creatures from Doug McClure movies, but... well, yes those as well... life is a funny thing. It generates sports and anomalies. I applaud this little guy, but he is no more a representative of the human race than that giant crab, from any Doug McClure flick, is a crustacean spokesperson. Society was progressed in leaps and bounds. Nowadays? If he avoids getting papped to death, he may achieve obscurity in research. Like most scientists.
It's weird that you spend a couple paragraphs talking about your social graces while referring to other people in a manner the denotes that you consider them beneath you. I'm sure it wasn't your intention, but it reads that way.
Half the population by definition has to be of below average intelligence.
Maybe I will prove myself to be in the lower half, and not being a mathematician myself, I was lead to believe that the average was the sum of scores divided by the number of samples. Because of this, an extraordinarily high score, or extraordinarily low score (or cluster of scores in a region) will skew this:
Scores
120
130
50
280
75
This averages to 131. In my sample above, all but the highest score is below the average.
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Oh look, yet another bleeding heart liberal has discovered that reality doesn't care about political correctness.
Maybe I will prove myself to be in the lower half, and not being a mathematician myself, I was lead to believe that the average was the sum of scores divided by the number of samples.
That's the arithmetic mean, which is one form of average. Other common ones
Geometric mean--the nth root of the product of the scores, where n is the number of samples. In your example, that's approximately 110.37
The median (rank the samples in order and take the middle one, or the mean of the middle two if there are an even number of samples)--in your example, that's 120.
The mode (the most commonly occuring value(s) in the set)--in your example, there are 5 modes (50, 75, 120, 130, and 280). If you change your example set to 50, 50, 130, 145, and 280, then there is only one mode: 50.
But, yeah, the statement you're objecting to is either wrong or under-specified (it'd be basically correct if it had specified the median).
rage, rage against the dying of the light
I agree as stated it is a naive notion. But it depends on how you define "dumb" and "smart".
In the common sense way, of course - as a measure of intellect / wisdom / cunning, or some combination thereof
The question of whether there may be other skills at which one succeeds is a different one. I'm not arguing that people with higher than average empathy or spatial coordination are not useful (though I'd rather not speak of people in terms of being "useful" in general), but I don't see why that should have anything to do with being smart.
Shocking.
No, I believe what the OP was looking for was a referral to 'Pumped up Kicks'.' Better run better run, faster than my bullet.
Show off.
Is that he sincerely gets to be himself someday, not a publicity stunt. If he's that smart and can survive with that intelligence into adulthood he should truly be amazing. I mean, eventually he will figure out that 90 percent of 'adults' are totally id and that is SOOO depressing. Good luck kid.
and there we have it. . . Mean, Median and Mode.
I always thought that average = mean, and that median and mode were two other entities as opposed to other types of average. .
Time to go back to school and pay attention this time.
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The original word worked well enough for us to understand his point. Live a little. Try using a different word, aujourd'hui.
I'm one of those young-ish MD degree people. High school grad age 17, BA computer science age 18, MS computer science age 19, MD age 23. Medical school was rough. Everybody else in my class had so much more life experience to draw on, which gives you better perspective about aging, disease, family issues and the like. Also, it was hard at age 19 to relate personally to my classmates who were married, had kids, etc. -- or the patients who might be four times my age. I learned how to do it, and got reasonably good at it, but it was hard.
In the end, I gave up clinical practice and went back into computer science. +1 to the poster who said "insert-name-of-faceless-corporation". I work at Google now. There are lots of smart people here. :-)
I'm sure I could be offended by that belief, if I was offended by the beliefs of random people on the internet...
Sure I'm paranoid, but am I paranoid enough?
1) the grand unified theory of physics.
2) an economic system that is fair, allows for balanced development and does not cause crises.
3) a programming language that allows a compiler the sophistication of human reasoning in order to catch as many bugs as possible.
Now, if these geniouses can make progress in any of the above, they would offer a real good service to humanity.
How to dress in *total*. According to the person who's post I was replying to, it can be. The thermometer alone only tells you the temperature. It won't tell you if it's raining or not.
Some may prefer a light jacket in the rain even if the temperature would not suggest a jacket would be desirable. In that way, it is helpful, but not the whole picture.
Touch everywhere, even when inappropriate.
That doesn't mean that all people are smart in some way, that's just conflating intelligence with skills and attributes in general. Smart people, generally, can be expected to be able to grasp concepts, gain knowledge, and then make inferences in any subject matter that is presented to them. Less smart people may not understand certain things no matter how carefully and elementally it is explained to them. That is an attribute, and it can be measured to an extent.
The tool, intelligence, must be coupled with an intensely accented motivation array to bring about a "genius." Maybe that accent is mental illness. Maybe not. But something other than pure intelligence must be present for the merely intelligent person to excel. And this guy doesn't have it. If he did, we'd be marvelling at his creations right now, not how quickly he learned the creations of true geniuses. One more "genius" for the "excellent mediocrity" bin of life.
E Proelio Veritas.
For a gaussian ("bell curve") distribution, all three are the same. For a lot of actual or plausible distributions, all three are fairly close to each other; though it's certainly possible to think up pathological cases where none of them is useful.
According to one of my favorites songs, a true story of a kid from the town I grew up in a number of years ago, after graduating college, the kid decided to go back to junior high. http://www.broadjam.com/artists/songs.php?artistID=35045&mediaID=271694
Carla Ulbrich's 'Boy Wonder':
I was 11 years old when I finished my degree
Got my picture in the paper and my story on TV
To be so young and so amazing took a genius they were sure
I was the center of attention and my future was secure
Chorus:
I'm the boy wonder They all know my name
I'm the boy wonder but still I feel the same
They talk about boy wonder and the promise that it brings
But I'm the boy wonder and it doesn't mean a thing
So they asked me how I did it was I born a prodigy
I tell them anyone can do it if they live a life like me
Buried in the books while the others played outside
I learned all about scholastics and a father's selfish pride
CHORUS
I was told it was an honor when I made the Guinness book
So I opened up a copy I just thought I'd have a look
My perusal was revealing I still see it in my sleep
Haunted by the volume of the company I keep:
The largest ball of twine and the longest fingernails ...
People struck by lightning The fastest moving snails
Tallest totem pole and the longest loaf of bread
Most objects juggled while turning pirouettes
Largest jigsaw puzzle and the biggest piece of cheese
My years of study had earned a place with these
So I forfeited my childhood living in the public eye
And a paragraph in Guinness was my consolation prize
Now my choices lay before me with the future open wide
So when I graduated college... I went back to Junior High
I'm the boy wonder but now I've changed my name
Because I've always wondered what it's like to be the same
No longer living under the attention that it brings
Yeah I was the boy wonder and it didn't mean a thing
And, as noted, there are many kinds of mean (geometric and arithmetic means being the most common, but there are harmonic mean, quadratic means, Lehmer means, contraharmonic means, etc). Some of those can be generalized into power means.
rage, rage against the dying of the light
After staring at women's vaginas all day, I'd sure hope he manages to take a couple of them on dates before he's 34.
I'm the real Vorokrytin P. Winterbuttocks.
All of my children have high IQs. My oldest son went to gifted school, jumped two grades, and was held back for good reason. Social imbalances. When his friends got to 16, he was 14, and he too wanted to also get his driver's permit. When his friends got to 18, and could go to the bars, he was 16, and had to lie about his age, or stay home. I gave him driving tests and the like until he was of age for the permit.
In university, he was bored, but did math, music, and finance. Before age 20, he graduated, moved to Florida, got an MBA, learned Spanish to add to his English and French. He could imitate the accents of Cubans, Mexicans. He picked up Portuguese, Chinese and Russian. After 10 years in the USA, he left for Latvia, taught Spanish, learned Russian and applied for a job in Moscow.
My other son, gifted in Finance, is very analytical, and is also worth bragging about. His skills in Poker and Blackjack which he did part time for a few years earned him a lot of money. (In Canada, gambling wins are not taxable, unless you are a professional gambler (have no other job).
I dont want to bore you, but he is one of the fingers on my hand, not one finger is better than the other.
My daughter is number 2 of the three. She got bored with University, took her Mrs. Has 3 kids, and now deals very professionally with autistic children. She is called on for many consultations and her success rate is way above average.
Do they take after me? Are they above average? No and Yes. Their mother was very smart and married me.
Gifted or not, Hi IQ or not, I love them all. But you cannot BS any of us. The important thing that we measure, is their kindness, generosity, and caring about others. That is more important than IQ or high scores.
Leslie Satenstein Montreal Quebec Canada
The unfortunate thing about people of this caliber is that they start off really great, then fade out into monotony, never going further then what they are paid to.
How about we develop a program that allows them to push the boundaries without worrying about regular life,
unless of course they want to have a regular life as well....I know it can be lonely in those instances,
so we should do our best to keep them well maintained socially so they do not feel the need to digress from their potential.
I hope the parents are well connected, it would be great to have him in a place like NASA or other scientific domains, cancer research, etc...