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Steam For Linux Will Launch In 2012

An anonymous reader writes "Gabe Newell has responded to an email asking if Steam for Linux will be released this year with the simple answer 'Yes.' That means at some point in the next 7 months anyone running Linux will be able to download Steam and start playing a number of games, including at least one Valve title (most likely Left 4 Dead 2). After that the emphasis will be on game developers to start porting their Steam games over to Linux. 2012 could be a great year for gaming on Linux. The news follows the revelation in April that Valve was indeed working on a Linux port of its digital games service. At the time though, and as with all Valve software, we had no idea when it would get released."

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  1. Developers, developers, developers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The bigger question is, will it motivate developers to port to Linux?

    1. Re:Developers, developers, developers by The+MAZZTer · · Score: 4, Informative

      Thanks to efforts like the Humble Indie Bundle, there are already a bunch of games on Steam that have Linux ports, in addition to whatever Valve ports.

    2. Re:Developers, developers, developers by buanzo · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yes. Steam already has the market. I'm pretty sure they are making this move with good pre-analysis. Gamers that only boot Windows to play games will definitely support it, to say the least.

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    3. Re:Developers, developers, developers by h4rr4r · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I would bet on your last point above all. Valve wants their own console, they are afraid of windows 8 for good reason. Making a linux steam client paves the way for their own steam box.

    4. Re:Developers, developers, developers by DragonTHC · · Score: 4, Informative

      I have stuck with windows for the past 10 years for specifically this reason. I'm a Linux admin by trade. I see no reason after steam games are stable on Linux to stick around. (except the crap feast which is origin.)

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    5. Re:Developers, developers, developers by h4rr4r · · Score: 4, Informative

      bzzt wrong.

      Very few of them are using any form of wine. Many were ported by icculus.

    6. Re:Developers, developers, developers by Bonobo_Unknown · · Score: 4, Informative

      Except that most of the games on steam won't be available on Linux (as they aren't on os x either).

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    7. Re:Developers, developers, developers by Svartalf · · Score: 4, Interesting

      You apparently haven't bought any of them, then.

      At least Cortex Command (which is about to get another update by the by...) is Native Code. Why do I know this? Because I'm the gent that actually made the 32 and 64-bit X86 binaries and installers for the HIB #2. Depends on the game, really- some of them are Flash based. Some of them are native.

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    8. Re:Developers, developers, developers by VGPowerlord · · Score: 4, Informative

      As long as developers are willing to statically link in libraries - that's not the Linux way, but it's done all the time on Windows anyway

      No, actually what's done all the time on Windows is far stupider than that.

      Developers dynamically link, then include a private copy of the DLLs they linked against with their program that no other program on the system uses.

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  2. Humble Indie Bundle by De+Lemming · · Score: 4, Informative

    Great!
    Remember that all games from the current and previous Humble Indie Bundles (overview of all games) have a Linux version, and most of them are on Steam too. So that's already a nice range of games to start.

  3. This is great news! by hort_wort · · Score: 5, Funny

    DRM in Linux is practically nonexistent, and I'm glad to see this gap filled! I was starting to feel lonely without being groped by a lawyer.

    1. Re:This is great news! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Steam is a lesson in how DRM should be done. Ever used it? It's really nice, could storage of saves by default, all your games accessible wherever you are with your steam password. It actually makes your life *easier* than piracy which is practically unheard of for DRM. Valve seem to understand that money, like water, follows the path of least resistance.

    2. Re:This is great news! by Deorus · · Score: 4, Informative

      They lock my games to a single account and that's about it. In exchange, they backup my saves, backup my games, allow me to install my games wherever I wish, provide me with free voice chat services that I would otherwise have to host or pay for, provide me with awesome deals, etc.

      Thanks to Steam promotions alone, my game library there has 273 games that cost me an average of $6 each, so I don't know about you, but $6 per game in addition to all the other advantages is quite a bargain in exchange for their "DRM" that is more permissive than what you can usually find in the retail versions of the same games.

    3. Re:This is great news! by Terrasque · · Score: 4, Informative

      Actually, it does store your save games in the cloud, for the games that support it.

      Either that, or my desktop and laptop have some weird data quantum entanglement going on.

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    4. Re:This is great news! by Baloroth · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I wish Valve would issue an IPO so that I could invest.

      No, you don't, because then Valve would be forced to answer to investors, which means a focus on quarterly-earnings, which means rushed games and restrictive DRM and bullshit like that. Look at what happened to Ubisoft, EA, and Activision-Blizzard. Valve manages to be better than most of the other publishers in large part because they are a privately owned company who can afford to mess around if they want (and because of their unique management structure, i.e. they don't have one). Also means their employees are extremely well paid, which pays off in the long run with talented employees sticking around.

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  4. Mac Ports of Source Games by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Seeing as just about all of the Valve games on the Source engine have been ported to Mac, would I be correct in thinking that it is a vastly reduced job to then bring them to Linux?

    Anyway, this is great news.

    2012 - Year of the Linux Desktop!!

  5. that sucking sound by Phoenix666 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That sucking sound is all my productivity flying out the window when this goes live. The last few years since the dvd drive on the family Wii console died I have gotten so much done. After all, on linux we all know the fun is in the coding and productivity tools (albeit a rarified kind of fun that you gotta immerse yourself in). If steam goes live with good games, well, I could see the 15 minute break I take when stumped by a coding challenge stretching into a week...

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  6. Re:Windows 8 by bigstrat2003 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    this may be the Year of the Linux Desktop... at least for me, and I'm guessing there are others like me.

    Very few people will switch to Linux because Windows 8 is a mess. They will simply keep using Windows 7.

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  7. Re:Tin foil hat, full engage,.... by miknix · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Not only that but if you think on it, Valve can actually create a dedicated gaming platform using Linux (with dedicated hardware or not). Steam on Linux might just be the entry point for it.

  8. Re:2012 the year of the Linux desktop by TigerTime · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Games...and the fact that Windows 8 Tile interface without a typical menu system looks like an abomination. Windows users are going to be looking around. Apple will likely pick up most of them, but Linux needs to be in position to pick some up. Steam will help immensely.

  9. Debian is 250 % more effective than MyCleanPC by G3ckoG33k · · Score: 5, Funny

    Debian is 250 % more effective than MyCleanPC, already the first millisecond. Debian then just goes on and on, beyond the pathetic performance of MyCleanPC.

    Check out www.debian.org.

    Debian makes MyCleanPC look like a virus.

    Debian wipes the floor with MyCleanPC.

    Check out www.debian.org.

    Debian has about 30,000 apps for free.

    There is no need to use MyCleanPC.

    Debian makes MyCleanPC look really bad.

    Check out www.debian.org.

  10. Only One Reason by zero0ne · · Score: 5, Interesting

    There is only one reason STEAM is doing this, and it's pretty simple.

    When they decide to release their own console (oh and they will), they want to make sure their platform will work on it, and that game developers have already started thinking about porting them over to *nix. Why pay a licensing fee for some OS to put on a console (or a licensing fee to XBOX or Sony to get STEAM on their platform), when they can instead make sure their platform works flawlessly on *nix, and then create a console using *nix.

    the desktop *nix community will be like a beta test for their console, without all the demands of "I want a fix yesterday" that you would get from the Windows community.

    Long term, they will end up taking a significant chunk of the current consoles market share.

  11. Re:2012 the year of the Linux desktop by hendridm · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Nearly all people don't give a rip about Slashdot pundits. They buy a PC at Best Buy or Dell.com's "For Home" section and it comes with Windows. Done deal.

    I'm a Linux advocate, but come on! To suggest that Uncle Larry will switch to Linux because she doesn't like the tile interface is absurd!

  12. It's hard for Apple to use these by Cajun+Hell · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Apple will likely pick up most of them..

    Apple opposes you buying and using their OS if your computer isn't a Mac.

    If you buy a computer and it has Windows 8 preloaded and you hate it, Mac OS may be available to you as a pirate, but Apple's position is that your computer is a doorstop, not a ludicrously overpowered computer which can be salvaged by installing decent software. They aren't going to try to directly use that machine to increase their OS market share.

    They don't hope to get you as a customer until n years later when that machine is finally obsolete (and I think n is getting to be a pretty big number), and they're counting on you remembering how unhappy you were with your previous purchase being non-Apple hardware.

    Except that when that day comes, you may have been running Mint for n years and probably don't actually have negative feelings about your hardware purchase. Turns out, the non-Apple hardware was fucking awesome (probably; most of today's shittiest garbage computers are just incredible, or at least in my experience). It's the preload you have bad feelings about.

    There are a few angles; maybe you will keep Windows on the machine despite your unhappiness, so the bitterness will last longer. Maybe your otherwise useful machine has something weird for which drivers are hard to get or don't work well (e.g. realtek wifi), so you can't ever upgrade the OS. Maybe you'll recommend Macs to your friends and family, so someone else might get a Mac due to your purchase of a Windows-preloaded box.

    There are opportunities for Apple, but most of them seem pretty fringe.

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  13. Re:2012 the year of the Linux desktop by nschubach · · Score: 4, Informative

    To suggest that Uncle Larry will switch to Linux because she doesn't like the tile interface is absurd!

    They'll just do what my Dad does and run Windows XP on the 900Mhz machine with 256MB RAM I'm not allowed to upgrade because "it works the way he wants it to, even if it's a bit slow" while the new machine I transferred all his data to collects dust.

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