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Raunchy Dance Routine a PR Nightmare For Microsoft

theodp writes "GeekWire reports on the techno-dance routine that preceded Microsoft's Windows Azure presentation at the Norwegian Developers Conference this week, which featured a group of women jumping around on stage to a song that included several drug references and the line: 'The words MICRO and SOFT don't apply to my penis.' In a strange effort to be inclusive, a monitor displaying the lyrics added, 'or vagina.' The official Windows Azure YouTube channel has posted an apology for 'a skit that involved inappropriate and offensive elements and vulgar language,' and said it's actively looking into the matter. Hey, could've been worse — at least @ASUS wasn't live-tweeting the event!"

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  1. Or Vagina? by eldavojohn · · Score: 5, Funny

    'The words MICRO and SOFT don't apply to my penis.' In a strange effort to be inclusive, a monitor displaying the lyrics added, 'or vagina.'

    What in the hell is an "or vagina"? Is that new hardware slang for an OR gate?

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    1. Re:Or Vagina? by Joce640k · · Score: 3, Insightful

      PS: I think I was more offended by the vertical iPhone recording than the content.

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    2. Re:Or Vagina? by netwarerip · · Score: 5, Funny

      'The words MICRO and SOFT don't apply to my penis.' In a strange effort to be inclusive, a monitor displaying the lyrics added, 'or vagina.'

      What in the hell is an "or vagina"? Is that new hardware slang for an OR gate?

      Well, Micro and Soft would be ideal for a vagina.

    3. Re:Or Vagina? by Shirogitsune · · Score: 2

      It is my understanding that it typically works that way:

      if(P || V){ ... } //Works
      if(P && V){ ... } //Kernel Panic

    4. Re:Or Vagina? by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 5, Funny

      Nothing sexier than a big, hard vagina. I'm moving to Norway.

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    5. Re:Or Vagina? by SadButTrue · · Score: 5, Funny

      Protip: They are quite stretchy
      Spoiler: That is where babies come from

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    6. Re:Or Vagina? by philip.paradis · · Score: 4, Funny

      Norway is obviously the ancient home of the Clitorati. They only recently resurfaced thanks to the diligent efforts of the world's most dedicated Microsoft evangelists.

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    7. Re:Or Vagina? by philip.paradis · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm not sure the words "pro," "tip," and "spoil" are going to produce the best visual in this context.

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    8. Re:Or Vagina? by netwarerip · · Score: 2

      Hey dude, if you like the feeling of throwing a hotdog down a hallway then more power to ya!

    9. Re:Or Vagina? by Larryish · · Score: 2

      Or possibly Visual Vagina 9.

      Only pussies use it.

    10. Re:Or Vagina? by Johann+Lau · · Score: 2

      seen on hackernews:

      http://www.whatwherewhy.me/blog/2012/06/11/the-male-gaze/

      another mystery solved :)

    11. Re:Or Vagina? by Monchanger · · Score: 3, Funny

      Those, or that sig of yours.

    12. Re:Or Vagina? by philip.paradis · · Score: 2

      Well played, sir. Well played.

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    13. Re:Or Vagina? by Proudrooster · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I agree the recording was horrible. However, it is a developer conference and you have to do something to spice it up since all of the cool people like "Eric Raymond" only speak at Open Source conferences. For me this just falls in the category of "whatever" and "bad taste" that it seemed like a good idea at the time. I will keep an eye out for the "official" meme T-shirt at the next conference I attend. On the plus side, this is the most attention Microsoft has gotten in awhile. MS has actually been doing some cool stuff lately like the "Microsoft Robotics Studio", but I haven't been able to get it to run on my Linux box or iPad.

  2. What happened to the good old days? by DickBreath · · Score: 5, Funny

    developers, Developers, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS ?

    I Love This Company!

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    1. Re:What happened to the good old days? by bitt3n · · Score: 5, Funny

      developers, Developers, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS

      or vagina

    2. Re:What happened to the good old days? by iplayfast · · Score: 2, Funny

      The best comment I've see so far.
      or vagina

    3. Re:What happened to the good old days? by jedidiah · · Score: 3, Funny

      ...at least not in public where everyone can see you.

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    4. Re:What happened to the good old days? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      vagina, Vagina, VAGINA, VAGINA!

      I love this company!

    5. Re:What happened to the good old days? by samoanbiscuit · · Score: 2

      I couldn't finish the video because it was so funny! I am still chuckling in a bad way as I type this. Embarrassment humour always makes me laugh, yet wince in sympathy at the same time, I can only take so much before I'm uncomfortable. This is so awkward, uncool and hilariously 40-year old virgin stupid I just cannot

      OBLIGATORY CONSPIRACY THEORY: I think it was an epic troll by someone who doesn't like Microsoft, maybe someone from nearby Finland let go because of Nokia's "restructuring"?

    6. Re:What happened to the good old days? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      No, not at all. There's nothing wrong with gratuitous raunchiness in general, but if it's used for marketing, then it's sleazy.

    7. Re:What happened to the good old days? by schroedingers_hat · · Score: 5, Funny

      I used to keep up with all the new memes and not repeat tired old ones, then I took an arrow to the knee
      or vagina.

    8. Re:What happened to the good old days? by rtfa-troll · · Score: 5, Interesting

      If he sold off his shares, then I might believe you were anything but a piss-poor Troll. But he hasn't.

      Funny you should mention that.

      I'd say that Billy has been selling off Microsoft shares as fast as he possibly can without people noticing too much.

      So whoever modded this +1, kindly go unfuck yourself before attempting further moderation.

      Ah yes. I think we know why you don't have mod points.

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    9. Re:What happened to the good old days? by kiehlster · · Score: 2

      I'm not one to agree with aborting, but this baby should have been. The trolls will now begin to devolve to a new level. They did not need a new default response.

    10. Re:What happened to the good old days? by ghostdoc · · Score: 5, Funny

      damn I never have a mod point when I need one

      or vagina

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    11. Re:What happened to the good old days? by noh8rz3 · · Score: 2

      or vagina

    12. Re:What happened to the good old days? by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 2

      ... I think we know why you don't have mod points or vagina.

  3. huh? by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Sorry.. was that a Loiter Squad skit?

    I can't see any way that as not meant as an intentional parody.

    Either way, or the writer was on drugs.

    Oh yeah, it's the latter. Never mind.

  4. Childish by aepervius · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "'The words MICRO and SOFT don't apply to my penis.'"

    And the word "maturity" and "adulthood" don't seem to apply to your brain either.

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    1. Re:Childish by ArsonSmith · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If growing up means I can't laugh at a bad/dirty joke then count me out.

      poophead!

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  5. Jezus Fucking Puritans. by MRe_nl · · Score: 5, Informative

    But that dance routine WAS a disaster.
    Also, that's not Techno.

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    1. Re:Jezus Fucking Puritans. by JazzHarper · · Score: 2

      TFA was written by Todd Bishop, one of the founders of GeekWire. Apparently, he thought it was all perfectly scandalous. He must not get out much.

      If he has any connection to the Brownists, it would be at least ten generations back.

    2. Re:Jezus Fucking Puritans. by eugene+ts+wong · · Score: 2

      Don't blame the Puritans for this 1. I watched, and it wasn't raunchy by today's standards. Maybe I'm too desensitized, but it seemed like an "ordinary" dance routine. The dancers wore clothes that could easily be worn in the streets in even conservative communities. I don't recall any pelvic thrusts.

  6. Anyone else remember Microsoft Mambo #5? by Suzuran · · Score: 4, Funny

    I remember when they rolled out the Microsoft Mambo #5, it was so bad I had to leave the room so I wouldn't laugh in front of the customers. I don't know who thought this was a good idea, but they should be dragged to death behind a truck.

  7. Re:OH MY GAWD !!! HE SAID PENIS by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As an American I am only offended that the girls weren't hotter and the dance wasn't more sexy.

    The words to the "song.." well, I can only say this: "Non Native Speaker."

  8. Microsoft and music by OzPeter · · Score: 4, Funny

    I always thought that Microsoft made bad choices for music. For Windows 95 they used the Rolling Stones' Start Me Up, which contains the lyrics :

    If you start me up
    If you start me up I'll never stop

    Which was fine for an adv. campaign, but then the next line always seemed weird for Microsoft to want to associate with:

    You make a grown man cry

    Yet in hindsight was amazingly prophetic in the context of Win95 .

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    1. Re:Microsoft and music by alen · · Score: 2

      i know its been almost 20 years but in those days that little circle in the bottom left of the desktop was a rectangle with the word Start on it. Windows 95 was the first time the Start button saw the light of day and was a big deal in GUI development at the time.

      which is why they used that Stones song

    2. Re:Microsoft and music by Dunbal · · Score: 4, Funny

      can't get no satisfaction? oh wait, no... although it's a better fit.

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  9. Any bigger PR nightmare? by mattr · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It could be worse. I discovered a famous furniture company's name means "ass" in Swedish from some engineers who couldn't stop laughing whenever they would see these boxes everywhere. I couldn't find it in the dictionary so it must be colloquial.

    I wonder is there a way to search whether a made up brand name matches any word colloquial or not in any of the mainstream languages?

    1. Re:Any bigger PR nightmare? by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 3, Funny

      Oh we Aussies understand nads all right. But the product was named after the founder's daughter Nadine, apparently.

      Never been to a women's sporting contest? You'll hear fans cheering Go-Nads and Go-Anna. :-)

      We also shorten Adrian --> Aids

    2. Re:Any bigger PR nightmare? by phonewebcam · · Score: 4, Funny

      Quite - and Brits must never inform any Americans a colleague has just nipped out for a quick fag down the back alley, no matter how accurate and innocent it sounds to them.

    3. Re:Any bigger PR nightmare? by polymeris · · Score: 2

      The nova story makes no sense, as an almost native speaker of Spanish, I'd never read "Nova" as "no va", yet alone use "no va" instead on "no marcha" or "no anda" when referring to a car. But I can provide you with an alternative myth: The Mitsubishi Pajero is sold around here as "Montero" (maybe in the US, too?) because "pajero" is a pejorative term that could be translated as "wanker" in Spanish (or at least some dialects thereof).

  10. The harder they try by l0ungeb0y · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The harder Microsoft tries to look cool, the more they look like awkward social retards staring at their feet in the corner of the highschool dance. I'm hard pressed to think of a company with a worse public image -- aside from Haliburton and PG&E, who actually kill people to achieve profit.

    1. Re:The harder they try by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 5, Funny

      I disagree with you regarding the particular kind of misfit they come across as.

      In my mind, Microsoft is a stodgy, big company representing most of the evils of old men corrupted by wealth. They use patents and lobbyists to lock out competitors, they screw of customers and business partners, they belong to the BSA, etc.

      So to me, it would like Mr. Burns from the Simpsons paid for the high-school prom, and then demanded all students stand around him to watch him do a Dirty Dancing version of the Charleston.

  11. They Should Just Accept It and Go Full Awkward by eldavojohn · · Score: 3, Funny

    developers, Developers, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS ?

    Since all their attempts just result in complete awkwardness, I know that Tim & Eric sometimes do product skits (like this board game) and I think that Microsoft should just go full intended awkward and hire Tim & Eric. That way nobody can make fun of them for being awkward and, like, twenty years from now they will be seen as doing comedy WAY ahead of its time.

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    1. Re:They Should Just Accept It and Go Full Awkward by The+Archon+V2.0 · · Score: 2

      I think that Microsoft should just go full intended awkward and hire Tim & Eric.

      Then people will just start bashing them for repeatedly hiring comedians who haven't done anything funny in years (or ever) to make commercials that aren't funny.

  12. Re:WTF would Apple do? by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 5, Funny

    Apple would have girls that were actually sexy.

  13. I think that I speak for everyone when I say, by Bender+Unit+22 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Meh....

    Lame lyrics and where's the raunchy dance?
    Geekwire needs to check up on the state of music videos these days(the uncensored versions). Or maybe not, it will give them a heartattack. :D

  14. I click on a link for a "raunchy dance routine"... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And I get this? Come on, that looked like routine from my junior high talent show, but not as raunchy. This is more blatant headline sensationlism by Slashdot!

    But I do so love the ESL lyrics.

    Blue Jeans on Fire!
    Chevrolet, Elvis!
    Blue jeans on fire!
    New York, let's go!

  15. Don't put the hipster in charge of presentations by crazyjj · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Every incident like this I've ever been involved with usually began with a staff meeting where everyone thought it would be a great idea to be young and hip by putting the young and hip guy in charge of some presentation. And it usually ended with said young and hip guy explaining why he honestly thought that having someone sing a rendition of "Cop Killer" to a backdrop of nude dancers would be appropriate for a presentation of of the company's annual shareholders' report.

    Leave the musical numbers for the Oscars and the comedy skits for SNL. They already do them bad enough without you trying too.

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  16. Watched some by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Didn't think it was all that bad. Sure it hurt my ears, but didn't touch my delicate sensibilities.

  17. Re:WTF would Apple do? by WrongSizeGlass · · Score: 5, Funny

    Apple would have girls that were actually sexy.

    With rounded corners, of course ;-)

  18. Official Stance by EXTomar · · Score: 5, Funny

    Microsoft's official stance: If you aren't sure what something is, Bing(tm) it. Go to your XBox 360 with Kinnect and shout proudly "XBOX BING OR VAGINA".

  19. Non-Native Insight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually, we speak English just fine here [in Norway], even though it's a second language for most. English is after all a close cousin of the Scandinavian languages, Dutch and German. It's closer to "native" than you would think.

    I'm sorry to say we have no excuse for this silly little song, other than that we have a different culture and couldn't care less about offending "sensitive" foreigners :)

    I haven't heard the song itself, but you might want to consider the fact that we also like to intentionally create songs that make a mockery of both our languages. It's called parody. Things are not always what they appear to be ;)

    1. Re:Non-Native Insight by Sperbels · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'm sorry to say we have no excuse for this silly little song, other than that we have a different culture and couldn't care less about offending "sensitive" foreigners :)

      And you shouldn't. But as an American, I'm wondering where all these sensitive American are? Who are these prigs who are offended by this? I couldn't care less about it either? We're in an industry composed mostly of men...I get a feeling this is something that the MS PR department alone is freaking out about...because some little old church lady might see this and get offended and...what?...start using Linux?!?!? I don't know.

    2. Re:Non-Native Insight by Kergan · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You merely do a fine job of imitating native speakers. As a native speaker of English, along with those of every other native speaker my utterances define English. Of course, the reverse is true for me of Norwegian and all the many many other languages of which I'm not a native speaker.

      Language is actually a lot more malleable and dynamic than you suggest.

      As a native, your utterance of words define English only to the extent that you're influential enough that your peers pick up and parrot these words. I can utter the word "toaurznuok", but if only a handful of relatives understand what it means and we stick to using it between ourselves, it doesn't enter the English language -- it's merely part of our local dialect.

      As a non-native, your utterance of words can also define English, whether you're speaking English with an approximative accent, your native language, or an odd mix of the two. Thus, words like tomato or avocado, which originate from Nahuatl (tomatl and huacatl respectively). Or words such as beef (from boeuf, as uttered at the dinner table by the initially French-speaking British royalty) vs cow (as in Kuh, its not-so-distant German cousin). About 30% of English words are of French origin.

      Adding to this, and you'll excuse my tease, most Americans do not speak a foreign language at all, and those that do (bar first- or second-generation immigrants) generally have the mother-of-all accents.

    3. Re:Non-Native Insight by Sperbels · · Score: 2

      I'm calling BS on this on your post. Your indignation seems contrived...but I'll respond anyway. This is not a sexual harassment scenario. It's pretty well established by now that women are rare in the computer industry simply because they're not interested in computers...not because of hostile workplaces. You think geeky men are sexually hostile? Go work for a stock broker or a car dealership.

      My point was that nobody is complaining about this. It's the MS PR department trying to cater to the lowest common denominator...prudish American women who get offended at sex or drug references. Men usually don't care as much.

    4. Re:Non-Native Insight by datavirtue · · Score: 2

      Yeah, it is fucked up. I work part time and I share an office with a lady (server administrator). You would think I would get asked to make coffee or run down to the bookstore to get our UPS deliveries, but no. Boss pops his head in the office and says, "Kathy, coffee!" Fuckin blew my mind. The other day he pops his head in, "Kathy, we have some packages in the bookstore, run down and get 'em." Again, I'm sitting there doing nothing but bullshitting with the other guys, a mere part-time underling of sorts--blew my fucking mind. I just sat there with my mouth hanging open. She says it's because she doesn't have the right body parts and she keeps threatening to wear a strap-on.

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    5. Re:Non-Native Insight by Kyrene · · Score: 2

      "This is not a sexual harassment scenario. It's pretty well established by now that women are rare in the computer industry simply because they're not interested in computers...not because of hostile workplaces." If only I had mod points for "-1 male privilege". As a woman who has been in IT for 13+ years, your statement is definitely, definitely untrue based both on personal experience and observation.

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    6. Re:Non-Native Insight by Darinbob · · Score: 2

      Geek men ARE bad at this. Yes, it's bad in sales departments and with stock brokers I'm sure. But so what? Shouldn't we try not to act like we're in junior high and have a higher standard? Maybe we want more women in the field instead of making them feel uncomfortable? And yes they are uncomfortable, there are lots of blogs out there from women in the field (they do exist) complaining about this stuff. Maybe growing a thicker skin is necessary but we should be able to reduce the need for that over time instead of defending the caveman behavior.

  20. Re:WTF would Apple do? by vlm · · Score: 5, Funny

    The good news is the Apple girls would be multi touch enabled, the bad news is only one "button" to play with even if the world standard has always been to ship with two. And they'd be shiny, very shiny.

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  21. Re:I see Microsoft's judgment about what users wan by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 2

    If your name is associated with it you have something to do with it. Or at least partially responsible.

    The fact that didn't pay attention isn't an excuse. Their name will be associated with this because it was part of their event.

  22. Tired of this by Dripdry · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You know what's immature? The fact that we as a culture seem ok with glorifying violence against people, killing and maiming them, but when you use the word "penis" then OMG! horrible! It's not natural Bullshit.

    The world would be a happier, healthier place if we just stood up against this nonsense and admit that sex is fine, fun, and healthy. Seriously, who made that headline? Other than a stupid song with some dumb lyrics, who cares? Sure, it doesn't really get across what MS wants, but a "PR Nightmare"? Give me a break.

    It's headlines like these that keep perpetuating the controlling and immature notion that sexuality is a sin, punishable by censure or banishment from society. If MS had used a video of the paperclip smacking around then crushing an apple that oozes blood it wouldn't be appropriate but would it be a "PR Nightmare"?

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    1. Re:Tired of this by JustNiz · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Sex IS fine, fun and healthy but I don't want to hear about sex organs in a damn song and/or at a business conference.
      Mostly because its a poor low-brow excuse for real entertainment because its based only on cheap shock value, which doesn't actually work because I'm not even slightly shocked anyway.

    2. Re:Tired of this by Rude+Turnip · · Score: 2

      You're assuming that everyone complaining is prudish, but you are making a horrible stereotype. Just because someone isn't a prude, that does not mean they would enjoy having someone else's puerile concept of sexuality shoved down their throat at what is supposed to be a professional event.

    3. Re:Tired of this by misexistentialist · · Score: 2

      You're doing it wrong

    4. Re:Tired of this by Hatta · · Score: 2

      It's not the vulgarity that's offensive. It's the complete lack of any sense of humor. Genuine funniness absolves all.

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    5. Re:Tired of this by Billly+Gates · · Score: 2

      Its not immaturity. It is sexual harassment, and yes it is a big deal for children around.

      The term lawyers drool over is hostile work environment. A slick lawyer can use this clip in a future lawsuit claiming MS not only condones this type of misogynistic behavior against women but there whole environment breeds it! Look ...

      The supreme court even went far enough to say the company is liable for what happens outside work hours with employees out of the office which is why they want to monitor your facebook account to see if there is a liability.

      You should be shocked at lawyers and liabilities a business or individual has in society rather than using a naughty word.

  23. Revised retraction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    I hear they just revised their YouTube retraction in order to be more inclusive.

    “This week’s Norwegian Developer’s Conference included a skit that involved inappropriate and offensive elements and vulgar language. We apologize to our customers and our partners and are actively looking into the matter or vagina.”

    1. Re:Revised retraction by zingfodd · · Score: 3, Funny

      I used to be a developer like you. Then I took an arrow to the vagina.

  24. Re:Damage control by miknix · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Microsoft already seems to be doing some kind of damage control because I cannot share this link on facebook. Facebook tells me I'm trying to share a blocked link...

  25. Awkward... by khendron · · Score: 4, Informative

    I haven't seen something like that since the time my company accidentally hired strippers for our Vegas-themed Christmas party.

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    1. Re:Awkward... by CodeBuster · · Score: 2

      I haven't seen something like that since the time my company accidentally hired strippers for our Vegas-themed Christmas party.

      That's tame compared to the party that Munich Re threw for it's top "performers" back in 2007. They had pre-paid prostitutes who kept track of the number of "uses" with stamps with everything happening in a large communal steam bath. What happens in Vegas may stay in Vegas, but even Vegas couldn't throw a party like that. If Vegas want's to compete with other gambling destinations, they will need to dial up the debauchery or risk losing their "sin city" reputation to other more worthy contenders.

  26. There are no PR nightmares by TheSkepticalOptimist · · Score: 2

    Only PR.

    You are talking about Microsoft, mission complete.

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  27. XP theme song by Dr.+Manhattan · · Score: 3, Informative
    There was a pretty good parody version of that Windows 95 song by Bob Rivers.

    For Windows XP they picked Madonna's "Ray of Light". I came up with better lyrics than the stock ones.

    Gotta admit, though, after maybe 5 years XP became nearly tolerable. For playing games, at least.

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  28. Re:WTF would Apple do? by sidevans · · Score: 2

    do you cry while you masturbate alone at night, bitter internet puke?

    I used to, but thankfully your mum is doing cheap webcam shows for me now.

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  29. Re:WTF woudl Apple Do? by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 2

    I see you have never been to an Apple store.

    I actually had the misfortune to need to go to one in my local mall, when my work Mac Book Pro's hard drive died under warranty.

    Two things stuck out:

    1) they had easily twice as many blue-shirts as customers, which sure made them look a lot busier than they really were.
    2) they had somehow gotten two uniformed, armed police officers to stand as full-time guards in the store. I really appreciate this expenditure of my local tax dollars, knowing that they are vigilantly watching over Apple's goods. Certainly this isn't something they could or shoul dhave handled via private security or something... however do jewelry stores manage?

  30. Terrible! by flibbidyfloo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm only offended by how bad the song was. If you watch the video you can hear the crowd's indifference to the whole thing, except for one person sort of laughing at the "joke". The whole thing was pretty lame and ham-handed, which just made the use of vulgarity more notable, like when your dad tells a "dirty" joke to your friends and it's just a bad joke. It makes it way more uncomfortable.

  31. Re:WTF woudl Apple Do? by jafiwam · · Score: 3, Informative

    Some departments allow police to be uniformed, off duty, and getting paid to do private security in their spare time. Likewise, some municipalities allow events to pay them to have officers loiter there. So it wasn't necessarily tax dollars.

  32. Prudes, Puritans, and the American Taliban by dtylercade · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So the local Microsoft subsidiary or its PR firm didn't understand the parent company is based in the veritable Saudi Arabia of the western world, where even though the prudes, Puritans, and American Taliban have lost the culture war for the most part, they're still staunchly camped out in the business world, under the guise of "political correctness." Instead of invoking Bible verses its "insensitivity" or "sexual harassment" nowadays. New lipstick, same ol' pig.

    Now if only they had shown a video of American fighter jets and bombers carpet-bombing civilians, squirting red, white, and blue smoke behind them, all set to "America, Fuck Yeah!", I'm sure it would've been met with raucous cheers and squeals of unmitigated glee from people on this side of the pond.

  33. You salute the uniform. by jeko · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You know how members of the military show genuine respect for some idiot that outranks them?

    Because when you salute, you're not saluting the man, you're saluting "the uniform," the office the man holds, not the man. It's kind of a dodge, I'll grant you, but one I think works.

    The badge works the same way. I'll follow an officer's instructions in public not because he's a great guy, but because he holds a public office We the People have invested with authority. It's the badge that's important, not the man.

    When I was in college, I worked at a very large and successful tourist trap restaurant and bar at a site of great natural beauty. The owner hired two sheriff's deputies for security. In return for hanging out on the weekends and hitting on the waitstaff, the owner provided those two deputies with half of their takehome pay and just a whole lot of booze.

    It didn't take long for the corruption to set in. The owner was getting those deputies money, alcohol and sex and sure enough, they very quickly became his personal pet deputies. I saw people get arrested for very little more than "Contempt of Owner," while the DUI patrols that used to hover around the restaraunt mysteriously evaporated.

    It's a pretty simple principle. The badge should not be available for rent or sale. Private money should not buy public authority. Doing so is called "Bribery." Our Law Enforcement Officers need to avoid even the appearance of favoritism or bias, and thus should not be taking money from people thay may one day be called upon to testify against or arrest.

    If this means we need to pay our LEOs a living wage, so be it.

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    He put his boots up on the table and made a face. "The sig," he smirked. "You can waste your life in search of the sig."