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Don't Forget: "Six Strikes" Starts This Weekend
Dr. Eggman writes "If you don't recall, then Broadband/DSL Reports is here to remind us that ISPs around the U.S. will begin adhering to the RIAA/MPAA-fueled 'Six Strikes' agreement on July 1st. Or is it July 12th? Comcast, AT&T, Verizon and Cablevision are all counted among the participants. They will each introduce 'mitigation measures' against suspected pirates, including: throttling down connection speeds and suspending Web access."
It's the beginning of the end for the INTERNET.
I guess most people will probably still avoid it until their first strike, but Freenet's still alive and shuffling many TB of data between the nodes without the possibility of monitoring.
https://freenetproject.org/
This graduated system actually sounds like a big improvement over their old policy where some college kid would be downloading and sharing 1000's of songs, and then get hit by a subpoena by the RIAA's lawyers.
Now, they send out warnings and follow them up before taking further action. So the infringer gets feedback in time to change their behavior before they get served with a big lawsuit.
So this is the time we should go break into powerful people's wifi and download high profile torrents and get their connections shut down. It would be funny if every high powered person in good ol' United Socialists of America was without internet because they were cutoff.
The problem is that MPAA/RIAA somehow think they're going to get more money from what they think are "consumers". The overwhelming majority people they're going after have no plans on giving their money to media distributors because they either don't have any or know better. Yet, they continue to waste their resources going after these "pirates" - who aren't really pirates because they're not profiting from their activities in any way.
The distributors are always complaining about how they're barely making ends meet.... perhaps if they didn't pay themselves millions of dollars they wouldn't have any problems? As I see it, they're just greedy assholes. They should do us all a favor and roll over and die. In a world where cost of distribution is very close to $0, there is no need for a digital media distribution company.
It's finally over! Hooray!
"I bless every day that I continue to live, for every day is pure profit."
1. Record innernets radio with streamripper, a free CLI app ported for Unix and Win32.
2. See how streamripper lays all the songs in your folder nice and neat with all the MP3 tag information intact.
3. Sort the folder on size in your favorite file manager and delete all the sub-megabyte commercials.
4. See how RIAA doesn't have a clue what's going on because it's like taping your songs on a boom box.
5. ????
6. Profit!
To: RIAA/MPAA assholes
I've been less and less likely to go to movies, thanks dudes.
Being specific: the idea that y'all think movies are a good way to strip cash from consumers to your pockets is annoying. The idea that you deserve to do so no matter what is plain offensive.
Anything is possible given time and money.
So I guess the government's position that access to the Internet is as important as freedom of speech only applies to communist countries http://articles.cnn.com/2011-02-15/politics/clinton.internet_1_internet-freedom-repression-expression?_s=PM:POLITICS
Sorry for all those folks that don't have any other option! This also the reason I keep turning down all those 'amazing' Comcast deals... look --> a whole year at $1/month. Yeah, great deal until RCN is out of business and I don't have another option.
O'er the land of the free(?) and the home of the brave?
I didn't see this answered anywhere. I use bittorrent to download and seed Linux distros and the Wikipedia for schools disc. How much will this pointless crack down impact my legal and legitimate use of this service?
Loadup your favorite songs with Grooveshark, queue Streamripper and voila. MP3s magically appear in your folders! No torrents required.
It doesn't exist. It's not accurate, and therefore completely invisible. The above pixels are blanked out and your eye does not read them. Nothing to see here, please move on.
According to FAQ #4 "How does the system work?", the process begins when a copyright owner reports your IP address and date to an ISP. To determine how much your service would be affected, I first need to know what copyright owner would report you. Or did you expect it to be something mickey-mouse like The Tetris Company complaining about the inclusion of Quadrapassel or tetris.el in a Linux distro?
They would rather deal with online services than P2P. That's what this has been about this the beginning of this ridiculous situation. The old media barons do not want to see a world in which people can be both consumers and distributors of entertainment or software, because that turns their whole business upside down. Peer to peer networks, and yes, that includes the Internet itself, are the targets; they want this to look more like cable TV systems, where consumers have consumption devices and where distributors have to negotiate deals and fight things out in courts.
The RIAA and MPAA love playing whack-a-mole; they have decades of experience doing it, they have laws on their side, they have public sympathy on their side. Suing an service provider off the face of the Earth doesn't really get the public angry, and it can result in that service provider making a deal that rakes in cash. Suing some college kid, some working class parent, some old computer-illiterate grandmother -- those things get the public angry (which is only tolerable up to the point where they start voting for less industry friendly politicians), they have no chance of producing a profitable deal, and they involve a party that has little money to give.
Palm trees and 8
Enjoy that U$A citizens.
Hahaha.
In the land of the free, the creative industry finds creative ways to restrict people's freedom. How ironic.
I stopped buying anything with the Sony label years ago when they won a $250,000 suit against a 14 year old girl and her single mother on a disability pension for downloading a few songs. Unfortunately I already used up my vote so I couldn't stop buying when Sony when they recently jacked up prices on Whitney Houston music to cash in on her death. Start with the worst offenders in the RIAA/MPAA...put them out of business...then pick off the next. What they win in lawsuits they'll lose in sales. Sony used to be an innovative company with brilliant engineers and reliable products...then they fired their engineers and replaced them with lawyers...they figured they could make more money being copyright trolls...tell them they were wrong...vote with what you buy.
Can anyone recommend me a VPN service hosted in Venezuela or any other country on hostile terms with the US?
The copyright lobbyists live in a world of services, a world where people are either consumers receiving service, or service providers who provide service. They love this world, because copyright fits very naturally into it -- the copyright holder can negotiate with the service providers, whose business interests compel them to enter into profitable deals. That is why they love the cable TV system -- the consumers are just leaf nodes, whose money can simply be siphoned upward to the businesses running the show.
Compare this to the Internet, where peer to peer networking thrives (and which is a peer to peer network itself). Sure, there are service providers online, but the truth is that unlike the cable TV system, the Internet does not require service providers to distribute entertainment -- anyone with an Internet connection can be a participant in entertainment distribution. Suddenly, the consumers are not just passive receivers whose wallets can be raided; they are participants in the distribution of entertainment, and they are not all party to an explicit deal with the copyright industry. They might receive their entertainment without having to pay for it, they might distribute the entertainment before or after the industry would have preferred, they might make entertainment available that embarrasses the industry.
The industry does not know how to rake in billions of dollars in profits in such a scenario. Thus they have simply resorted to attacking peer to peer itself. As long as people are only able to receive their entertainment from a distribution service, the industry is happy. They'll play that game, they'll sue and bargain with file sharing websites, because they understand the model and the websites have more to lose than some college kid. The endgame is for the Internet to become a fancy cable TV system, where there are channels, distribution regions, disputes between networks and copyright holders that leave consumers without entertainment, and most importantly, consumer systems will just be passive receivers.
Six strikes? Just a way to scare people away from peer to peer models, until there are enough TPMs and DRM systems to ensure that peer to peer networking is no longer possible.
Palm trees and 8
If my ISP were to throttle my service to a level below what I am paying them for, I would simply switch providers. They're not my parents, they're not part of the government. They either provide the service I'm paying for or I will go to a competitor and pay their competitor. I don't have to worry about being in breach of a contract because if there was one (which there isn't) then they'd be the ones in breach. The only way we are going to stop the MPAA and RIAA is to take to the streets in mass, and not in some silly "occupy walstreet for no reason" type protest, either.
Well, I can tell that most people who use YouTube will probably be on the top of RIAA's Most Wanted.
Strike 1) Head (to stun, so that they have an idea what it is actually like being hit by a lawsuit)
Strike 2) Right hand (to break the joint and disable mobility, to give them something to think about ever time they sign a document in the future)
Strike 3) Right kneecap (break, so that they remember what 'freedom' is)
Strike 4) Left kneecap (break, see #3)
Strike 5) Ribcage (break, preferable multiple ribs, so that they remember with every breath what freedom was like)
Strike 6) Pepper spray in the eyes and mouth (to remind them what freedom of speech and mobility)
A list of names of people and where to find them would help. Be sure to include all RIAA/MPAA/related entities in all countries affected
Have A Nice Day
It's the beginning of the end for the INTERNET.
How can a tiny industry worth only $10b, create laws that govern freedoms.
Everyone, tell your parents,grandparents, they are stupid fuckers for voting for evil pricks.
Lets see the bigger porn industry create legistlation that porn must be on freetv, no censorship.
Fightclub time!
Instead of Usenet or the Internet returning to the days of being networks for hackers and intellectuals, we are entering an even darker age. Now, when we are online, we need to make sure that we are encrypting everything, that our certificates are valid, that we are using an anonymity system, that our firewall is configured to block ranges of IP addresses known to be used by certain organizations, and that we stay up to date on the latest methods of attacking all these systems. The Internet is a depressingly hostile network these days, and this only worsens that situation.
Palm trees and 8
Let's be frank here, guys. The only people this is going to affect are those users who are using BitTorrent to commit copyright infringement. Use your brain and don't use BitTorrent to commit piracy, and you'll be fine.
to throttle and or cut-off those customers who use a bit too much of the bandwidth they paid for .....
Yes. There are many technical ways of circumventing the MPAA/RIAA's monitoring of your behaviour online. This will become a cat-and-mouse game.
The international Pirate Party movement is the ONLY option to actually counter the Copyright Industry, their lobbyists, and the politicians in their pockets. Many US states already have a chapter. Become a member, or at least donate. Oh, and what's more important: talk to a lot of like-minded family/friends/colleagues and make sure everybody goes out and votes for them, when a candidate has been fielded.
It will be going that way regardless, it'd be nice to have it now and not have to wait 20-30 years for the "old typewriters" to die off.
Go with a anonymizing VPN in another jurisdiction, and send a big fuck you to the snooping crew.
I recommend/use IPredator but there are others. (I am not affiliated)
Effectively renders all of these measures moot and gives you a great defense if someone raises a flag.
..don't panic
Nazi faggots. The lot of them.
Real pirates have a main trunk line.
If the only way you can accept an assertion is by faith, then you are conceding that it can't be taken on its own merits
Remember to enable encryption in your torrent client. Use TOR for web downloading (Don't use it for torrents, unfortunately).
And I'm sure within a year or less there'll be even better solutions for evading the eye of your ISP. Prohibition didn't stop alcohol sales, it just drove it underground. That'll happen here, too.
Switch to a different ISP and stop funding these companies. Don't complain about "monopolies"---none of these ISPs have a monopoly in providing Internet services; they have at most a monopoly in the specific kind of service they provide (e.g., only DSL provider in town, only cable company). Satellite is available everywhere, as is dialup. In many places, if Verizon is providing DSL service, there are also often other small companies providing DSL as CLECs. All that these big ISPs may have "monopolies" on is speed or convenience, and if you keep paying for their services, you're part of the problem.
Liberty in your lifetime
That full encryption starts today.
Don't be left behind. Head to a 'darknet' near you. I2P, freenet, etc.
---- Booth was a patriot ----
You know what? Screw this.
Those idiots want to clamp down control on media sharing? Well that's fine. I'm sure I can find FAR better things to do with my time, eyes and mind other than waste all three on their mind-control crap.
They haven't made anything worth viewing or thinking about for a looooong time now.
See ya. I'm off to the library. Thanks for the final shove.
But they are still vulnerable to oppressive bandwidth caps. ( which you will see starting to drop next as the fight continues. )
And not casting stones or predicting bad things, but i have been on FN since the early days, but i now have a cap, so i have reduced the available bandwidth available to FN via QoS
---- Booth was a patriot ----
Offerer offers X Service. I pay for X Service. Offerer gives X minus Y service; then it is Breach. I just wish I was on the legal team for the Plaintiffs.
Now the next step is, how to measures damages by Offerer, et al., for acting in a Criminally Fraudulent mannor, Because Faceless Corporations are people too.
I have a bunch of Linux distros that I torrent continuously (debian, lubuntu, and ubuntu-studio at the moment). I don't code so I help out the Linux community as I can.
Will the ISP systems be smart enough to figure out what's being torrented or just dumb and track if your line shows any torrent participation at all 'you must be a pirate'?
I suspect they only look for the torrent header codes and cannot see inside so cue up all kinds of additional backlash for the ISPs/etc.
. What is in the torrent transfer codes to show reliably what's in the included file?
Can we please (pretty please!), once and for all stop using the term "pirate" instead of "copyright infringement" or maybe "illegal copying" (if you want to get a slightly harsher tone) — especially for headlines and story blurbs!?!?!
I know you know, but still: Pirates are people that get what they want on the high seas, normally using violence or threats of violence. Let us not play into RIAA/MPAA/FACT/...'s hands by using their propaganda language.
And you are right, "The Copyright Infringement Bay" has not got the same sound to it as "The Pirate Bay".
The AMA has a personal mandate (a 'tax', if you will) that requires you to purchase their product so that everybody can enjoy lower prices.
I used to use peer guardian way back when and it was easy to find any number of lists. I've tried looking for a p2p block list, and couldn't find any free ones. Suggestions would be welcome.
1. Download legal stuff that trips their sensors and keep logs of all your files
2. Sue for them cutting your access and as a monopolistic company being unfairly hurting consumers.
3. Profit and open way for everybody else to sue so they cannot afford to ban people
Who knew? I'm a Century Link DSL customer.
"A more likely punishment is a throttled connection, where connection speeds are severely degraded for a set period. The agreement specifically mentions 256 -640 kbps as an example."
How much in hard drives can you afford if you are no longer paying $50 a month for broadband? Individuals with clean records can sign up for uncapped business class service and VPNs or whatever they need to get content without hassles, and share access for a small fee. Customers supply hard drives which fill up with data and then get swapped, or a wifi network is used to pass the data.
Large providers are just the lazy way to get your data, there are plenty of other ways with a bit more effort and a lower price in the long run.
Please America, keep your useless stuff. And I mean your law.
The ISPs aren't doing the detective work, that is done by the content companies, or tech firms hired by them. The tech firm gets an IP from a torrent downloader/whatever and sends the ISP a letter The ISP then "warns" you. After 6 letters, you are in trouble.
The ISP is not the one doing the monitoring, it's the RIAA/MPAA hired contractors, who will then complain to your ISP. In theory, they should only be doing this for things they own the copyright for, but you can bet mistakes will be made. Afterall, why bother with accuracy when they know anybody using bittorrent must be a pirate?
My, how little actually seems to have changed?
My uverse router cannot handle more than a few hundred connections before it goes all wonky. Apparently, there isn't enough memory for the connection tracking. Unfortunately, the router does not let me turn off NAT and use it as a straight bridge, allowing me to use a real router. It does offer a mode called DMZPlus which sort-of accomplishes the same thing as bridging, but still uses the router's connection tracking. This all means that participating in torrents and all of the connections related to that use will bring my uverse router to its knees.
Enter the VPN. The beauty here is that all of those connections are handled on the other end of the VPN, freeing the resources of my powerfully weak uverse router. I set up a virtual machine running transmission-daemon and openvpn, firewalled it like crazy, and control it with transmission's wonderful ajax interface. This way, the uverse router deals with just one connection - the VPN. My days of rebooting my router after any torrent use are over.
Take over the pejorative and use it as a badge of honor. It's a proven technique. Hence, self described queers marching down the street, and The Pirate Party.
For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word. That begs the question, "who cares"?
I have a bunch of Linux distros that I torrent continuously (debian, lubuntu, and ubuntu-studio at the moment). I don't code so I help out the Linux community as I can. Will the ISP systems be smart enough to figure out what's being torrented or just dumb and track if your line shows any torrent participation at all 'you must be a pirate'? I suspect they only look for the torrent header codes and cannot see inside so cue up all kinds of additional backlash for the ISPs/etc. What is in the torrent transfer codes to show reliably what's in the included file?
The only worthwhile comment/question in the entire discussion... and no response. Everybody else is complaining that their freeloading and lawbreaking is going to get harder. Boo hoo. They sound like Goldman Sachs when congress was proposing to regulate financial markets.
But here is the real relevant question, will legitimate uses of this legitimate technology be punished now that the due process has been removed?
-- QED
I posted this earlier, but accidentally as an a/c. Or, do I look for good a/c comments and then post them as my own? I actually don't, and did post this earlier, but you still don't know that for sure. I need to cut back on the pain killers. Anyway...
My uverse router cannot handle more than a few hundred connections before it goes all wonky. Apparently, there isn't enough memory for the connection tracking. Unfortunately, the router does not let me turn off NAT and use it as a straight bridge, allowing me to use a real router. It does offer a mode called DMZPlus which sort-of accomplishes the same thing as bridging, but still uses the router's connection tracking. This all means that participating in torrents and all of the connections related to that use will bring my uverse router to its knees.
Enter the VPN. The beauty here is that all of those connections are handled on the other end of the VPN, freeing the resources of my powerfully weak uverse router. I set up a virtual machine running transmission-daemon and openvpn, firewalled it like crazy, and control it with transmission's wonderful ajax interface. This way, the uverse router deals with just one connection - the VPN. My days of rebooting my router after any torrent use are over.
My grandpa has an internet connection for the sole purpose of having cameras in his house to watch him. The cameras are not compatible with WiFi encryption. If someone logs in and uses his internet to download, and the ISP ends up cutting off his internet to stop "his piracy", we won't be able to see the cameras or if he's fallen or needs help. I wonder what the ISPs will have to say then if he ends up dying because we couldn't see him?
I guess everyone is a criminal.
When an ISP starts denying you access to service or curtailing service you are paying for based on having conducted their own investigations or making determinations of guilt the lawsuits will be filed, the plaintiffs will win and the ISPs will stop.
Remember kids SOPA failing has consequences. The most salient amoung them with regards to this plan was the immunity grant to ISPs for playing judge jury and executioner against its paying customers.
Use a VPN and the ISP's won't see anything to monitor. https://www.privateinternetaccess.com is easy to use with Linux and only $40 a year.
Posting anonymously cause I like it that way ;)
How are ISP's going to deal with colleges or universities where many users share one gateway? Dorm's would easily break the 6 strike limit. So you are going to punish all students tho they may have not done any thing.
A pessimistic view, but technically correct.
There are no technical facets to six strikes - the ISPs aren't doing deep packet inspection or the like. This is just copyright holders monitoring torrents to compile a list of infringers, which they then use to complain to the appropriate ISPs. The ability to use BitTorrent hasn't changed, and if it's a legal torrent then no one will be complaining.
You see, Phase one: collect underpants
Phase two: ???
Phase three: Profit
Get it?
Every single article that touts the July 1st date gets that date from an article that came out back in MARCH. Yet if you do enough research, you will find an article from late May that it has been DELAYED, possibly until later this year (or more). If you don't believe me, look up every last one of these "July 1st" articles. They all link back to the same mid-March article, not a single date later than that.
I can't blame them for trying, but I'm not sure how durable any of this is going to be. Copyright holders are going to claim infringement at every opportunity, but it's all going to be contingent on the ability for the ISP to map an IP address back to a customer.
I'm envisioning this process to be a little less reliable than one might think. What if by early afternoon you have been switched to an infringers IP address? Are you now guilty of infringement assuming the other user infringed earlier the same day? Even worse. What if the infringers figure out they can arp flood the network and spoof other IP's on the same network? Now anyone connected to the same physical switch could be considered an "infringer" by virtue of their IP getting hijacked for downloading.
Ultimately it conflicts with the ISP's other intent - which is to ensure your IP address changes enough that you cannot easily host anything from your home. I'm thinking it's going to take a few years to shake out, but soon enough we will all be paying an Internet media tax to cover the losses that media companies are experiencing from illegal downloads. The real solution is much easier -- make it possible for us to purchase the media in the first place.
Eric Sarjeant
eric[@]sarjeant.com
AT&T and Time Warner Cable are the only providers servicing our entire city. I can't even switch providers to escape or protest this.
Captcha: tyranny. How appropriate.
RIAA/MPAA, et al...
With all those "pirates" out in the world, the companies they are representing are still making money. How many have gone into bankruptcy recently? I guess they just need to stop making content then they don't have to worry about pirates anymore?
Maybe the model pricing of $1.00, as Apple found, works?