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16GB Nexus 7 Sold Out On Google Play Store
hypnosec writes "Just days after it was officially made available on Google Play, Google's Nexus 7 16GB version has been sold out and is not available for order. Google's probable answer to Amazon's Kindle has been selling like hot cakes from day one, and was available with two different amounts on-board storage: 8GB and 16GB. Considering that people now-a-days want more space on their portable computing device, the 16GB version was selling more than its 8GB sibling. Another reason for the 16GB to outsell the 8GB variant is that the price difference between the two is just $50."
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With flash memory so cheap, why would anyone release a tablet with less than 32GB? Our CAD stations have more RAM.
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The Nexus 7 was reported selling out in all major retail locations except Google's Play Store last Friday. Now it looks like online is dry, too. The big question is, how many did they have to start with? Is this a false crisis to create buzz, or did they really underestimate demand and have been swamped.
The important part is, of course, I already received mine.
8GB or 16GB, this tablet is non-expandable. And in today's world, 16GB isn't really that much of an upgrade over 8GB. It certainly wouldn't allow me to do everything I would like to do (for example keep a copy of my entire music collection on it). For that I would need at least 64GB. Therefore, my conclusion is that the 16GB model isn't really worth the extra $50 at all.
I think the challenge for this device was to bring the price down to $200. Which means reduced storage. It is easy enough now to use cloud drives/music to avoid the necessity of of having the bulk of your library local. This tablet can compete with the Kindle Fire as a result, and it will greatly increase the footprint of Android in the tablet space. When the leading product is literally three times the price or the the aging model is double the price for the same storage, it begins to look pretty good. If you need to have your entire catalog of files locally, then this may not be the device you want/need.
from http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/BusinessBuzz/166606, and many others
"The cost to Google for the premium model’s additional 8 GB of memory is a mere $7.50, which means Google makes an additional profit of $42.50 every time it sells one of the 16 GB devices, IHS said."
So, if you can sync without google play, and are happy with 8 Go of media and programs between connection to your home, it makes no sense to buy the 16 Go version.
And if you want a lot of memory, it makes no sense to buy the Nexus 7, which does not accept micro SD cards.
I was on the pre-order list and my 16GB would not charge. They still haven't sent a replacement. I guess I am screwed.
I guess the upside is that they may fix the screen issue... but since Asus has managed to show a lack of competence with some of these issues I am not holding my breath.
My tablet has 16GB, and I have a 16GB microSD.
The Nexus 7, on the other hand, has no microSD slot.
The only thing my local storage is for is installed applications, and a handful off items for when I'm offline.
Perhaps people buying the bigger capacities are offline more than you are. They don't want to spend hundreds of dollars a year on a mobile broadband plan for a tablet when they're already paying hundreds for Internet at home. And even if they do pay up, once someone streams a couple movies over cellular, that's all the Internet access the subscriber gets for the month.
Great trolling, man.
Anyway, are people buying the nexus 7 because they've been dreaming of a 7" tablet or because they've been dreaming of a sub-$300 tablet?
If either of those, they would have bought the Kindle Fire.
Either via HDMI out or VGA out? Does bluetooth have enough bandwidth to support video out? Are there bluetooth monitors out there? Bluetooth key board/mouse would be a great accessory for a tablet.
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If you drop a movie or two on it
How many movies does one usually get from the Redbox at once? Load one movie on, watch it, and load another on once you're back at fixed line broadband.
I bet there will be no demand for 16 gig nexus 7 if 8gb version is also supplied for retailers. Google only halted it from its site because it has to fulfill retailers demand. there is only 20 bucks diff between 230$(include shipping+ taxes) 8gb google store nexus 7 and 249$ 16gb retailer version(lot of stores have no tax no shipping). so when you compare, extra 20$ for 16gb is worth it. I bought mine for 234$ from jr.com. only 6 more buck than 8gb version. only money come here no specs no space nothing....
For anyone on the fence about buying one, do not hesitate, it's a fantastic device!
S.t.e.v.e.
How many is "sold out"?
It is easy enough now to use cloud drives/music to avoid the necessity of of having the bulk of your library local.
Not while you're out of range of a Wi-Fi AP that you're permitted to use. That happens more often for some people than for others. In fact, for some people, the only place they're sure to have Internet access on a tablet is at home.
I use WiFi only; it's ubuiquitous where I am, and there's no additional charge for it. [...] Certainly if you are in a location where cellular is your only choice, the decision will be different.
To clarify my situation: The public transit system in Fort Wayne, Indiana, has no Wi-Fi; nor do a lot of stores. A convention center in Toledo, Ohio, has Wi-Fi but charges $25 per day to route packets out of the building.
When a new consumer product/book/whatever hits the market, it's common to limit quantities of the first shipment so you can tell the world you "sold out" a few days later. The reason you do this is threefold:
1) Reminds consumers that product X is now available for sale
2) Get consumers to think that if they're interested, they need to buy now (e.g., rather than comparison shop)
3) Get consumers to think that the list price IS the price the product is selling for (e.g., don't look for discounts)
Google intentionally manufactured (not really Google, but still...) few units just so they can say "hey, our Nexus 7 is really hot shit and sold out!!"
Of course people want the 16 GB one over the 8 GB one, especially since there's no Micro SD card slot.
If they had a Micro-SD card slot, I'd be buying one, without one, I don't really see the point of buying a tablet in 2012 with such a pathetic amount of storage space. Really, why $50 for 16 GB? I can go out and buy a 32 Micro-SD card for $30 or less. I can buy a 64 GB SD card for under $50.
Taxation is legalized theft, no more, no less.
In the UK, Google are selling the 8GB model for 169 GBP (inc. postage and tax), whereas Tesco in the UK did the 16GB model briefly (like for half a day until they realised that the money off voucher code was wrongly applied!) for 179 GBP inc tax. You had to use a 20 GBP discount voucher that was posted on the Net fairly rapidly and also collect it from your local store (Tesco is massive w.r.t. the number of UK stores, so that's no big deal). It's why I have a Nexus 7 16GB on my desk for only 10 GBP (about $15.50) more than the 8GB model - a no-brainer purchase to get the 16GB model in this case.
Yes, it's already unlocked, rooted, has Flash (side-loaded), Camera Launcher for Nexus 7, Firefox beta + Phony = iPlayer (side-loading the iPlayer app doesn't work) and it'll be the Modaco ROM next in a few days' time probably.
When the most popular version of the iPad sell out, it's usually minutes before the rest sell out as well (because people are easily pushed into paying more or in many cases accepting less storage). The true popularity test for the Nexus will be just that.
However, due to Google's piss poor marketing the situation is a little different. Apple nearly always manages to have it's most popular model be the lowest end - so that you never have to settle, only pay more.
I'm watching this with quite a bit of interest. Google has a product here (a physical product) that people actually want, and historically they manage to fuck that up every time.
If that is a real problem then get the 16GB version and get happy. How long are you planning to be away from wifi with just your tablet that 16GB isn't enough? Movies fit for such a small screen can be encoded to a gigabyte or less so assuming you have 1GB for the OS, 4GB for some apps, 3GB worth of music, you still have room for at least 8 movies. Of course there is already a method floating around for hooking a flash drive to your Nexus 7 so the point is moot for some people already. There are also little hard drives that have their own wi-fi access point built in so you can stop somewhere in th mountains you are obviously hiking in while the latest blockbusters on your tablet and re-up.
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I think the challenge for this device was to bring the price down to $200. Which means reduced storage. It is easy enough now to use cloud drives/music to avoid the necessity of of having the bulk of your library local. This tablet can compete with the Kindle Fire as a result, and it will greatly increase the footprint of Android in the tablet space. When the leading product is literally three times the price or the the aging model is double the price for the same storage, it begins to look pretty good. If you need to have your entire catalog of files locally, then this may not be the device you want/need.
As cheap as they could of added an SD slot, i'm not understanding why they wouldn't.
Unless of course, they think this will keep peeps from rooting the machine...
Be seeing you...
How is a 7" tablet an answer to an eReader? Is it also an answer to desktop PCs?
Then get the 16 GB version and cache the files you think you are going to need locally, or spend a few dollars and get a hotspot. I enabled the hotspot feature on my phone and use it with this device on the train. It is cheaper than having an entirely separate bill from my carrier, and actually saves battery life on the phone (my VZW GNex is awful in the battery life category)
If you absolutely need all your music and movies, then buy a bigger device at a higher cost. If they made this a 250 and 300 dollar device it would defeat the goal. With 16 GB you can have a lot of music and movies on the device. There are many manufacturers making more expensive models with more storage and MicroSD cards slots for people who need that scenario. For the price this is a good deal, and Google is selling them at cost.
Why would they think that?
Fastboot is supported on this device, so no need to root it. Just drop a su apk in system and away you go.
Google dislikes SD cards because they are slow, then people move their apps and data on to them and complain the tablet is slow.
..due to quality issues.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2407422,00.asp
"Specifically, there's not just one bad batch of Nexus 7 tablets out there - there may multiple bad batches with different problems. Few reviewers got the bad units, of course, because one of the basic jobs of tech product PR is to make sure the gadget works before you send it out. Some of this is luck, of course; we have three tablets and no problems here."
So use a USB stick with it. Those are available up to at least 256GB.
Also, the average consumer isn't going to understand that they have to compensate their storage by something they need to buy in a store. If the lack of SD card is an issue, then don't buy what many consider a surprisingly affordable device. I am certain they will start appearing in the not too distant future.
USB sticks are usually VERY slow writing and not even up to par for reading; at least those which could be described as anywhere near cheap. You're looking typically at single digit MBps write (often low to middling single digits)and maybe 10-20 MBps read. Something decent like a Super Talent ST4 (which is physically gigantic) costs over $100 for 25 lousy GB, and is only reasonably fast on USB3. On USB2 it won't even read more than 25-30 MBps.
If they had even half a brain they would have put one or two MicroSD slots. Negligible cost and space. You can get 32GB MicroSD for about a buck a GB which is faster than any USB stick at that price range, and like one zillionth the size.
They have a brain and knew that excluding MicroSD is smart.
It is slow and users will complain about their device being slow when they access it.
USB sticks are also slow, but it is very clear they are not part of the device to be left connected at all times.
You only need to hook up the usb stick to copy media back and forth nothing else.
In related news:
Samsung Galaxy S III: 10 Million Sold
http://www.informationweek.com/news/mobility/smart_phones/240004166
Why I abandoned the iPhone
http://www.theage.com.au/digital-life/mobiles/why-i-abandoned-the-iphone-20120718-228xy.html
I have an Android app. I want to change the way it stores data so it goes to a NAS box on my local network. The Android device will be on that local network via Wifi. Multiple Android devices will share access to that data, all locally via wifi on my local net.
How do I do it programatically? i.e. via an API in my app.
When I search for it, I get all sorts of file managers that let me access files remotely, (e.g. Astro), but I want an API to let me read and write files on the network. I've seen code (can't remember them now) to write to Google servers but I want my own NAS.
I will choose the NAS to fit the API.
How do I do it??
In Windows I'd simply \\NasNameOrIP\folder\folder\filename.txt
I'm sure there must be a way of doing it, I just can't find it. Help!
Not if your apps do a good job of syncing. When driving along mobile reception is too spotty for streaming audio to my friend's phone, but Spotify has already cached locally what he wants most of the time. Similarly Google Currents will cache articles offline, Pocket will cache web pages and so forth.
Plus these days there are loads of free wifi spots, the real challenge now is coming up with a way to bypass the stupid landing pages so that apps which just try to sync don't fail until you open a browser and click to log in.
Do people really carry their tablets out and about anyway? Phone comes with me of course, but I guess I'm not hip enough to take the tablet down to Starbucks for some posing, er I mean to work on my novel.
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I'm at the other end of the spectrum from you.
I wouldn't pay for a 16GB one. I'm using my 8GB Nexus7 as primarily an eBook reader plus have a bunch of MP3s loaded onto it for background music while I'm reading. (well, and also for the general sweetness of other Google/Android apps.)
The way I see it, I'm only really going to be using the network capabilities of my Nexus7 in places where I have Wifi (home, office, possibly friend's places) so I don't see a real need for a large storage capacity. It's not like I'm going to be using it while driving to/from work or going out bar-hopping in the evenings. And I don't think I would ever really want to load more than 1 movie onto it at a time [ie. for a plane trip or something].
For me, 8GB should be more than enough.
For others, 16GB might still not quite satisfy.
Personally, paying 25% more for the product isn't worth extra storage space that I would never use. I think Google did a good job at offering these 2 options to try and satisfy us both. Although I DO agree that an SD slot would have actually been the ideal solution.
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US Status:
If you ordered your tablet with a case, charger or Nexus Q, your Nexus 7 will ship this week with overnight shipping, in some cases ahead of the rest of your order. But don’t worry, the rest of your order will be on its way soon.
UK Status:
All Nexus 7 8GB orders will ship by July 20 (BST). All Nexus 7 16GB orders placed through June 30 (BST), will ship by July 20 (BST).
AU Status:
All Nexus 7 8GB and Nexus 7 16GB orders will be fulfilled by the end of day on July 19 (AEST) and will arrive in 3-5 days.
CA Status:
We’ve shipped all Nexus 7 8GB orders. We are in the process of shipping Nexus 7 16GB orders and will ship them in 1-2 weeks.
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So what the hell. Locally in the US, and on the other side of the world, google was shipping within days. For Canadians ordering the 16GB models, it's an additional 1-2 weeks (I ordered mine before Jun30). Beyond that, those that pre-ordered are getting their devices later AND paying more for shipping than if they had just ordered from Staples etc. Canoe has a good article on how Canadians are getting hosed in this regard.
It's a nice device, and I do support what Google is doing with the Android OS, but their respect for (esp Canadian) customers in this regard has been absolute shit.
Why is it that when a brand new product has millions spent on its advertising and hype then they accidentally underdeliver the supply by underestimating the demand that the company celebrates like it's some accomplishment? I would have someone head on a freaking pole for having customers lined up, saying "shut up and take my money!" and someone screwing up and not being able to get products into their hands. That's the #1 worst thing a company can ever do to shoot itself in the foot when it comes to sales numbers.
I don't quite understand why they even produced an 8GB .
The reason is so they can have a "list price" of $199, the same as the Kindle Fire. People will often make a purchase decision by comparing prices on basic models, and then add upgrades without as much consideration. So Google wins the sale with the low list price, and then makes the profit on the additional memory.
I like the larger size, and the moar power, and the keyboard dock. Well worth the price.
Considering that people now-a-days want more space on their portable computing device...
Apple dropped the 4 GB iPhone just a few months after it was introduced because the 8 GB model was outselling it by (I think I remember hearing) about 8 or 10 to 1.
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So get an inexpensive cell plan with a 32GB cap. Problem solved.
What Google should do is not play the Apple game. Offer a 32 gig device and ... there is no second step. Advertise that even if you don't use the storage, it's being made available because MEMORY IS CHEAP, the additional cost of memory is buried down in the noise, and Google doesn't feel the need to play that game.
I don't expect them to do that, but it would be interesting to see what happened if they did.
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Im sure the 8gb will sell out soon too. I bought two for the kids they love it so far. Its an excellent device for the price anyone holding back on getting one rest assured. We went with the 8 Gb because they stream everything youtube vids/netflix not much is stored locally except for some games.
The 8GB version is too barely profitable to allow for retailer margin. Retailers won't want to lose money on it.
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"Another reason for the 16GB to outsell the 8GB variant is that the price difference between the two is just $50."
This is how you know Apple isn't making these devices.
so, when traveling, you want to load up with enough content to keep you entertained while on the road.
And for me, that isn't always movies. Books and games tend to be far smaller, and there's always ColorNote for when I get an idea and I want to jot it down. I've even found myself keying pseudocode into ColorNote to turn into actual code the next time I'm at a full-size computer.
Two hours of video takes what, 3 gigabytes? 3 gigabytes divided by 7,200 seconds is a little over 400kBps. How fast do you need to read?
I pay $40/month total for 1200 voice minutes + unlimited data, and it works (perhaps "unofficially") with tethering. [...] I use Virgin Mobile
I currently use a flip phone on Virgin Mobile's $15 per 90 days plan* because I don't use even 40 minutes a month. My cell phone is for arranging rides and for other short, urgent calls, not a land line replacement. Most of my long calls are made at work or at home, where I have unmetered minutes for incoming, local, or 1-800 calls. To tether, I'd have to get an Evo V on a $50 per month plan, the cheapest that officially supports tethering, and this would cost me $840 more the first year and $540 more each additional year. And I don't even live in a 4G city.
The cheapest advertised plan is $20 per 90 days, but the $15 plan is available to anybody who signs up for automatic top-up on virginmobileusa.com.
So use a USB stick with it.
USB mass storage devices are not compatible according to this article: "However, Google decided to exclude this possibility and the Android Jelly Bean OS does not offer On-The-Go support for USB Flash, which is required to use USB devices."
Which U.S. carrier offers "an inexpensive cell plan with a 32GB cap"?
or spend a few dollars and get a hotspot.
A few dollars, or a few hundred dollars per year?
It is cheaper than having an entirely separate bill from my carrier
But still hundreds more than not having a smartphone plan at all. That's what the extra $50 for a 16 GB model buys you.
Do people really carry their tablets out and about anyway?
Yes, because a tablet is the only Android device I have. A flip phone with no touch screen can't run Android applications. I have to rely on applications' sync features, and I think some developers leave out sync on purpose, perhaps so they can charge extra for a syncing feature.
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Maybe you should spring for the extra Flash.
The Nexus S, the Nexus 7, and the Galaxy Nexus all lack one thing that almost every Android device has, and that sets Android widely apart from the iPod and iPhone:
An SD Card Slot!
My $100 low-end tablet has a full-size SD card slot. Two of my friends tried out AT&T Android cellphones; they sent them back because of poor reception, not because the phones themselves sucked. Under the battery, next to the SIM slots, what do you find? Micro SD card slots.
Google doesn't think that SD card slots - or extra storage space - is important on its Android devices. Buyers are telling them differently: We want as much space as possible on these! If Google would put an SD slot in them, you'd find even more people buying them. (A rear-facing camera and the SD slot would make these two my choice for Android phone and Android tablet. As it is, I'll buy something else that has *both*).
I think the SD and USB storage problem only arises if it's an Apple device. But if Google fails to add SD and USB storage, then it's a master stroke :)
Here's a question, although this may not get seen: How does the increased screen resolution compensate for the smaller screen size when dealing with dual column academic papers? I have a CM7 NC that I adore, but it is starting to show its age, and I still cannot truly view the aforementioned format on it. On the other hand it fits perfectly on something like the TF101, but at $100 price gradient. Anyone chime in?
Or...they start selling them when the total stock is such that they expect to sell out. They could have probably waited a couple weeks or a month and had enough for anyone that wanted one, but then it wouldn't have sold out.
If you aren't going to be doing much other than watching feature-length films while a passenger, then the Nexus 7 might not be the best product for you. Get a different model of tablet that has a microSD slot and/or official support for USB MSC. Or get a portable DVD player.
Why do you have such a hard time understanding that not everybody is like you?
Because a lot of people neglect to state up front the circumstances that cause common suggestions to fail. I do take those circumstances into account when they're mentioned. For example, when one anonymous commenter clarified that he wants a device for movies and only movies, I recommended a different solution for his circumstances. Right now, my best guess as to why I keep mentioning solutions that fit my own circumstances is that I haven't been made aware of some cultural "default circumstance".
That's where our strategies are different: my Virgin Mobile cellphone is a land line replacement.
That'd be fine for someone who lives alone. But I'd have to find a land line replacement plan for the other member of the same household as well.
My total telecommunications cost is $30/month for cable Internet [plus mobile]
How much will that $30 per month bill go up at the end of the 12-month promotional period? If it is not the promotional rate, how did you manage to get such a low rate for cable Internet alone? The price expectation in your area must differ from that in my area, where Comcast's cheapest Internet-only plan (called "Economy Plus") is $39.95 per month.
By the way, as I understand it I'm not supposed to tether my Samsung Intercept to a laptop. But it doesn't say I can't tether it to another Android device.
Does an Android device become a laptop when docked to a keyboard like one of ASUS's other products (the Eee Pad Transformer tablet line)?