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KDE Announces 4.9 Releases
jrepin writes "KDE announces 4.9 releases of Workspaces, Applications, and Development Platform. Version 4.9 provides many new features, along with improved stability and performance. Some of the highlights include, but are not limited to: more thorough integration of Activities throughout the Workspaces, ability to display metadata (ratings, tags, image and file sizes...) next to file names in Dolphin file manager, Mercurial versioning system support in Dolphin, detachable tabs in Konsole terminal emulator, support for MPRIS2 protocol in various places, ability to store and print PDF annotations from Okular document viewer, Okular can also play videos embedded in PDFs, Lokalize translation tool supports Qt's TS translation files, Kontact PIM suite gains ability to import data from Thunderbird and Evolution, Pairs is a new memory training game added to KDE Education package, and Marble desktop globe includes Open Source Routing Machine and support for bicycle and pedestrian routing. This release is dedicated to the memory of recently deceased KDE contributor Claire Lotion."
Just make sure the tablet UI mode stays optional. We don't need another Gnome3/Unity.
I'm glad the KDE crew is still pushing stuff out the door. While I'm not a huge fan of KDE4, it is improving.
Why don't they just round up and make it 5.0 releases?
Sounds like a troll alert to me
"The hands that help are better far than lips that pray." - Robert Ingersoll (1833-1899)
Thanks KDE, your releases just keep getting better. The Metadata info will be great to have.
The haters, they just keep hating. When was the last time you used these apps?
I love KDE but I don't understand activities. Am I "doing it wrong" ? I can't seem to find a use for this feature.
Many times I've tried to switch to linux from windows and many times I moved back because something doesn't work as it should or slow, etc. But recently I've installed Kubuntu 12.04 and I actually like it. It has been 2 weeks now and I'm not planning to get back to Windows. I still have windows to play games though. Anyway, good job KDE, keep up the good work!
Since Win8, Unity, Gnome3, and others have all jumped on the "mobile device" bandwagon, it's good to see that there's still someone concentrating on providing non-dumbed down desktop environments. Xfce is OK but it's a much simpler and less functional environment than KDE.
My fear is that KDE will die (maybe because QT dies?) and then we will have nothing left for people who want to use their computer as a computer rather than as a media consumption device.
Who actually uses a file manager??
bash FTW.
Or, for complicated renames, emacs dired.
Who needs Dolphin when there is Konqueror?
Has anyone dared to install it through a backports PPA on Ubuntu?
Is it something worth doing?
Well, it'd help if konqueror were actually maintained and didn't crash all the time.
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Pipe down Ballmer!
God is imaginary
Slashdot is self-trolling itself in order to generate comment activity. Kinda sad, really. I mean, if they were really super clever about it more people would fall for it.
-B
Ash and Hickory, straight-grained and true, make excellent bludgeons, dandy for the cudgeling of vegetarians.
I was just about to say "Who cares about Win8, KDE4.9 is here!"
http://tech.slashdot.org/story/12/08/01/1713257/windows-8-is-ready
The haters, they just keep hating. When was the last time you used these apps?
Been using KDE for years and years because I detest GNOME (though I say this and also happen to be wearing a Ximian shwag t-shirt, so go figure). Got a new machine at work a few months back, threw Kubuntu 11.10 on it. Woof.
This machine isn't a speed daemon but within 10-14 days all 10GB of RAM were used. Switching to another window resulted in 5-10 seconds of swapping and HDD light activity. And I'm only running a web browser, an IDE, a mail client, and Konsole. I could partially mitigate the issue by closing everything and logging out, but that would only reclaim a bit of memory. Rebooting was the only solution, and only then it just bought another few weeks until I had to shut down again.
Wiped it, installed Xubuntu and there's no reason for me not to use Xfce since I've been up for months now without an issue.
I'm not a "hater", but I don't know that I'll be a KDE user again. All I need is a workstation desktop environment. Not a tablet thing, not a phone thing, no "social media" tie-ins, just a stable, usable, reasonably svelte DE. Xfce has so far fit the bill perfectly.
-B
Ash and Hickory, straight-grained and true, make excellent bludgeons, dandy for the cudgeling of vegetarians.
The next best thing would be if they made Dolphin look, feel, and behave like Thunar. Maybe better would be to throw Dolphin out the fucking window. The way it displays files and directories sucks shite (and NO, none of the Dolphin view options is worth a wet sack of monkey shit). Say what you will about the Windows Explorer look and feel, but Thunar is the most usable of any of the Linux GUI file managers
That's odd, I run XFCE and pop open Dolphin whenever I want some GUI file managment. 99% of the time, Bash does everything I need. For that 1% of the time left, I'm probably doing something that needs 2 panes. Thunar is so simplistic as to be essentially useless, you might as well use the Windows 3.1 File Manager.
I was a Dolphin skeptic back when they first deprecated Konqueror. But they've made it good and featureful, and took the best from both single pane and orthodox file managers. My only regret is that I have to load KDE libs to use it.
Give me Classic Slashdot or give me death!
Konqueror? Their file browser is Dolphin since 4.0 (which I've never had a single issue with). Konqueror I think is still included as their default web browser, but you've gotta be out of your mind if you aren't using Firefox or Chromium or something instead...I wouldn't be surprised if they had actively decided to stop maintaining it because it's always sucked and there's really no purpose to it anymore. I think Konqueror has become the Linux equivalent of IE6...
Their file browser is Dolphin since 4.0 (which I've never had a single issue with)
It doesn't have half the file browser features Konqueror has. For just one example, FileLight integration.
Dolphin is a dumbed down version of a subset of what was in Konq. Fortunately, Konq is still available, but I don't think it's being maintained very much any more so it may fall into unusability.
Captcha: setback
What I would like to know is, if I do the following:
:-(
ssh -X otheruser@localhost kmail
Does it Just Work(TM)? Or does it still crash because akonadi / nepomuk / strigi / mysql / kitchensink haven't all been woken up at the same time to serve the urgent e-mail indexing needs of otheruser@localhost.
It's interesting to me that akonadi has such a nice and detailed self-test, but a pity that it seems to need it
To be, or not to be: isn't that quite logical, Slashdot Beta?
Thunar looks like a dumbed down version of an open file dialog, and probably has less features.
I like Dolphin, but it has gone downhill on my current Arch install after 5 months of use.
2 big issues, maybe interrelated:
1. Directory views are frequently not longer "synced" after file operations. I have to use F5 to reload the tab before it displays the actual current contents. Files used to appear as they were copied or vanish as they were deleted, but that only happens sometimes now.
2. Certain directories with file previews turned on get "stuck" attempted to populate all the thumbnails, causing one CPU to be pegged at 100% until I navigate to a different directory in that tab.
Is there a way to delete Dolphin's internal database and start anew? I suppose deleting everything in ~/.config/dolphin would work, but I wanted to know if there is a more elegant solution.
Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law
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Teun
Serious question: Is the "best" KDE version still considered to be 3.5? Or have they un-broken the 4 with the newer updates?
/. is news for nerds not news for Microsoft shills. Get your head straight!
GENERATION 25: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation.
Does that mean we can install KDE 4.9 over the top of Windows 8?
Make SELinux enforcing again!
Or, rather, something much like it, in regards to Outlook.com!
(Which I actually tried and was surprised to see it looks JUST LIKE OUTLOOK the app, only online).
Did I like it? Sure, it was familiar is why, & for the most part, yes. It worked well in WaterFox 14.02 also (I liked that).
What didn't I like about it?? Well, it's a HUGE Javascript driven CPU HOG, much like Windows "LIVE" Mail tends tp be as far as cpu usage @ least!
(See - I know this by watching CoreTemp, which I run in hot summers, and this one's setting records in that regard in the US @ least as "the hottest summer on record" ever, iirc)...
* However, other than that? It's pretty good.
So, finally getting to my point here:
Then, so what did the "trolls of /." do?
First post was this almost TOO OBVIOUS solely "raving review" of the site outlook.com.
Hey - I felt it actually is pretty good, but it has the downside I noted!
(That's not a 'giant' one that most folks would note unless they ran an app like coretemp & watched the CPU cores temps flying up to the 80-100 degree F mark, indicating what I stated).
So, then the "trolls of /." jumped all over the initial poster saying "Microsoft SHILL", etc. - THIS WAS TOO OBVIOUSLY A SETUP/"REVERSE-TROLLING"!
(Sure - it goes on with every major business concern though, in 'shilling' being done mostly by PR firms & image management companies etc./et al).
However, I know Microsoft wouldn't sink that low themselves, but their pr firms might (all of them tend to's why & we know it).
Again/once more & lastly, stressing it - However, I felt they "set that up" themselves in the trolls here... it's called "REVERSE TROLLING" by many in fact.
What makes me laugh most is basically what you said:
I feel they think folks are STUPID, thinking they'd fall for such an obvious ploy... & THAT is the trolls' main problem around here, imo @ least!
(Yes, I've been around here nearly a decade consistently enough to make that statement based on hands-on observations of their multiple registered 'luser' account dishonorable methods of sock-puppetry & more around here to make that statement based on experience with them myself!)
APK
P.S.=> Personally, I think that THAT type of deceit is almost as "low as you go" when you're a human being (being grateful in my stating that) because only wusses & whimps resort to it (what I call "not men" online, or otherwise)...
... apk
Actually, you really can. KDE has been available on Windows for years, basically ever since 4.x was released (yes, including the pre-release-quality "releases" for x < 2).
Additionally, Windows has long had a registry value that specifies which process it should launch as a shell. Traditionally, this was used for creating kiosk systems that ran dedicated software and neither needed nore wanted Explorer running in the background. However, it's possible to do full shell replacement using the same tweak.
There's no place I could be, since I've found Serenity...
Previous post did not go through, sheesh.
My windows 7 is freezing right now while watching netflix or youtube on first monitor and web surfing(tried firefox, chrome, opera) on the second monitor, this happened 6 times so far. No hardware(all hardware checked out) issues especially video card which i swapped out, radeon to geforce and back. If i use linux i don't get this issue on the same hardware. I had problems like this before with xp, server 2003, and of course win7 on other amd machines. It's probably the windows standard drivers for the northbridge, sad thing asrock has only south bridge drivers no north bridge, even amd. Or there is something between microsoft and amd.
I went from opensuse to ubuntu to kubuntu 12.04 and I just love the kde 4.8. The kde taskbar is definitely better than the windows 7 when it comes to customization, adding extra taskbars, theme changing, adding widgets. Windows 7 on a dual screen is just sad I have to use ultramon to add second taskbar. The dolphin file manager looks better and has more options it's especially easy to reveal hidden files and folders in dolphin unlike windows 7 where you have to go through hoops just to turn this option on. Kde is nice when it comes to themes unlike windows 7 which you need software to do this. Visually, kde is just better.
There are pretty good apps out there for linux which i use but than there are apps on windows 7 that i need that are not on linux and wine can't run. For gaming I use emulators like pcsx2 and dolphin for both OS's and i find that the window versions are 15fps faster than the linux version with the opengl plugins. I hope steam influences game companies to develop for linux.
Hey, it's the man with the BRG (Big Rage Gun),
According to your post in "Cue The Trolls" on July 30th, you said and I quote:
Don't you wonder why people with the money are working on BSD based Macs instead of Linux? Wake up. How many mechanics get told to build a smelter when their ratchet is defective? None. They find another ratchet. I too have decided to use a different tool that doesn't require me to keep building smelters.
I took that to mean that you'd already left Linux far behind but here you are, once again, telling us how much you don't like it. What are you, some kind of masochist?
Sonny, if you do not like Linux then go ahead and use something else. It clearly stresses you out very much, I can imagine big red bulbous veins standing out in your neck as I type, and the last thing any of us hippie sandal-wearers want is to be responsible for someone with a BRG accidentallly turning it on himself and ending up with a coronary.
Windows 10 is great - I used it to download Linux.
Every time I look at Activities I cannot figure a way to get them into my workflow in a way that benefits it.
Care to give me an example of how you are using them because I think I am missing something...
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Upgrading to 4.9 was painless.
Plasma Desktop is the best DE out there since 4.2.
Improving KWin scripting makes it even better! Dolphin 2.1 rocks hard.
Hey fucktard, how's it going?
Maybe if people like you addressed the issues instead of beating up the people who make the complaints it really would be the year of the Linux desktop. But no, you would rather slag others who don't feel the same way as you. You need to see a psychiatrist and deal with your own insecurities before you are qualified to advise others.
I said I use Linux on a VM now. I still have to use it. Now go cry somewhere else. So sad you can't take it when someone dents your fanboyism. You should take some antisensitivity training. Maybe instead of crying and curling in a little ball and feeling hurt when someone posts honest criticism you should ask why these criticisms aren't addressed. I think it's because fanboys like you live in a different reality than the rest of us. Just a hint, there has never been a year of the Linux desktop. The potential is there, but attitudes like yours will always prevent it.
-- I ignore anonymous replies to my comments and postings.
Dolphin has its regressions. My current favorite is that when you open the built-in terminal-emulator on some recent distros it doesn't load your ~/.bashrc unless you do a "source ~/.bashrc"; that bug has existed in Ubuntu since 11.10 and KDE since 4.7 and hasn't been fixed yet, AFAIK.
And in konqueror the terminal has not followed the directory of the GUI file manager since version 3.5. Dolphin has a great file filter feature, but it doesn't seem to exist for konqueror. And you can't split dolphin windows up in to more than 2 horizontal panes, unlike konqueror, which you can subdivide in to as many vertical and horizontal panes as you need. And good luck adding a "Edit File Type" button to your dolphin toolbar (though you can do it with konqueror). If KDE could somehow combine the best elements of dolphin and konqueror they would have a better file manager than any other EXCEPT for konqueror in 3.5. Not only did konqueror used to show meta-data if you highlighted a file (even on a removeable drive that isn't indexed by neposuck), a feature that it seems they are just getting around to adding back in, but you could actually edit mp3 tags from the file manager by choosing Properties from the context menu.
KDE3 really was the greatest DE ever. I just wish there was an easy way to just add KDE3 konqueror with all its kioslaves from Trinity KDE without pulling in all the other buggy crap from that little project.
Sonny, you really are wasting your time with the abuse you are levelling at me - I'm not going to repeat what I said to you in my last response in "Cue The Trolls" because it's all contained in there - read it or don't read it, the choice is yours.
But take the advice of an old man - any high ground you may think you have in any argument will be removed as soon as you resort to abuse and bad language - and when arguing with someone like myself, who is entirely capable of communicating clearly & succinctly in a calm fashion, I will consider that as a victory to me.
Windows 10 is great - I used it to download Linux.