It's a fork of FreeBSD 4.8 from 2003. I ran the most recent freebsd and pc-bsd and both are rock solid. It was easier to install flash player on bsd than opensuse 13.1(it did not work even installing from the terminal). I ran linux open source applications just fine with no issue on pc-bsd 9.2.
Microsoft is a joke when it comes to licensing their products. Why couldn't they just release the Windows 8.1 pro for $99 3 license. Instead we get standard, pro, pro packs, family packs, upgrade 8.1 to 8.1 pro, etc.... Make it fucking simple for the regular joe. I can't blame people(not into gaming, adobe products, or windows development) for leaving MS for Linux which is $0 cost. Now, people complaining of issues when upgrading from 8 to 8.1. They should of allowed their customers who bought a windows 8 copy to download a full 8.1 ISO instead of the upgrade broken path. Shitheads. Corporations always ripping of their fucking customers, just ask Time Warner Cable.
Regardless of changing the cache from 350 to 1mb, it still trashes my hard drive, slows down, freezes and crashes. On windows 8 it's a little bit more stable than windows 7 but still issues. I switched over to chrome and no software issues whats so ever. Only thing I hate about chrome is the font.
from 1990 to 2012 u.s government revenue a year was about 2 trillion(1990) to 3+ trillion 2012, about 40+ trillion in taxes for the past 23 years collected. And yet, we still can't have a universal healthcare system like Canada. Where did all the fucking money go to??? SS full of IOU's since government put their grabby hands in it to pay for other things. We don't need any more new fucking taxes on the books since money just disappears from the government so easily. I guess government does not care about pissing our hard earned money since it's not theirs to begin with. All the perks these government employees get especially the $400k a year pensions in California.
Linux fails compared to windows 7/8/8.1. Distro's are still too damn buggy and too many damn updates. It seems that the linux community releases buggy code and then patches it with other buggy code and this goes on and on and on and on..............runs in a loop. Is there any production code???? Well, it's free software so don't expect anything of quality.
I tried almost every distro and it's always some process that is crashing, gui parts like icons or taskbars disappearing, the whole OS crashing, samba not working, trying to detect other linux shares on the network does not work all the time, OS update manager permission denied have to go through cli, but than updates don't install look online for solutions for this fix, and this just keeps going and going. LINUX, TOO MANY PROBLEMS IT FEELS LIKE I'M BACK ON WINDOWS 98/ME.
Although, out of all linux distros, I like the Ubuntu the best. It's easier on the eyes and enjoyable to look at, but so many damn issues like the rest of distros.
To save you a headache, if you do serious work and gaming, windows 7 and windows 8 which go for $100 or $200 pro version are a better 5 year investment than any linux distro.
How is the metro interface screwed up? Windows 7 aero causes eye strain for me and found the favorites in the start menu is limited when it comes to adding items and its slow as well when expanding the control panel as a menu. Windows 8, I can add as may items to the metro as I want and resize them as well. The simple and transparent taskbar is a lot easier on the eyes than the aero and uses less resources. On my amd machine running windows 8, i don't get disk trashing like I do in windows 7 which brings my machine to a halt.
"Microsoft taking away the user interface elements that people were used to"
Except windows 95, 2000/xp, and windows 7 menu systems are different from one another.
Intel and AMD have their cpu architectures opened to the public, why not gpu architectures so the linux and bsd communities can develop better drivers for wayland and mir windowing systems, what are they hiding. Or at least Nvidia and AMD can build an opengl only gpu for the open source world(linux, bsd). Fucking corporations.
All these streaming services suck ass. Netflix u.s sucks major balls, we get nothing but repeated old shit over and over again. I used an unblocker for chrome and got to see what Canada, Britain, Denmark netflix all have compared to U.S, guess what, better quality movies even though they have less selection. But, this is quality over u.s netflix quantity crap. Nothing to do with licensing, netflix claimed their u.s movie selection is based on customer demand, yeah like we like shitty, unheard of, b movies.
Windows 8.1 is just fast, intuitive, customizable, and a lot better than windows 7. Don't care for the old start menu, never really used it, never cared for it, plus the windows 7 menu does not scroll when it exceeds the icon limit in favorites. With the metro I can pin more than 50+ applications on a single screen without the need to scroll, although, the scrolling never really bothered me. Installing the 8.1 OS, apps, applications, configuring, and transferring files is just better and faster than 7.
Windows 8/8.1 I think is a lot more productive than xp/7. To some people the metro may look childish but it's definitely easier on the eyes and quicker accessing applications just by looking at the tile icons instead of squinting reading the icon text like in windows 7 start menu. Overall, windows 8.1 is excellent.
Linux, I still have beef with the linux being too internet dependent(not everyone has 24/7 perfect internet) when it comes to installing applications(store mines in storage for later installs), although I can install whatever i need and just use aptoncd(sometimes works) or relinux to make another distro. The linux DE's are still flaky although mate and cinnamon put windows7 menu to shame. Unity is fine just wish they would make it more like the metro where you can pin whatever applications you want into the dash.
Hypocrisy, so it's okay for the politicians in government to take your data(emails, cloud storage), wiretap your phone calls, etc.. without your permission or even a court order, but, when somebody does it to the government they throw a tantrum. Nobody is supposed to be above the law(constitution) and that's including those in all three branches of government.
When you rent an apartment, storage unit, garage, etc... law enforcement can't search without a warrant unless they hear someone in distress, and this applies to email, cloud storage, isp data, voiceip, etc... regardless of the companies policies which can't override the constitution. What NSA is doing is grabbing everybody's data and storing it and than they search through it and if they find anything suspicious they get a court order and use it against the suspect. This process is just wrong. The communists(not really commi's more like feudalism) were doing stupid shit like this to their sheeple, well except for the court order.
This war on terror was complete bullshit from the beginning, 911. I wouldn't be surprised if there are top secret files hidden away somewhere in DC stating how the u.s government started ww1, ww2, korean war, vietnam,etc... using spy's..
The 2 things i like about the windows 7 UI is the aero and icon combine on the taskbar, the menu sucks. the new xfce and also cinnamon have a better and intuitive menu UI than windows 7. Major problems with linux is that it's not on par with windows when it comes to professional applications, games, and stability which is a huge problem with linux on the desktop always bugging out, freezing, and crashing after installing updates or applications. Linux feels like windows 98.
And until we get full binary software(all dependencies included) installs I don't think people with horrible internet will ever change to linux.
It's okay for light desktop users who don't care about window based software. Tried installing wine 1.6 on mint 15,./tools/wineinstall, it failed kept asking for root privileges which I gave(sudo), and then it told me i can't run it as root. Then tried to./configure --enable-wine64 which I got other errors so I just gave up. I wasted 30 minutes looking on the net for a fix but I just gave up. 32-bit version did not work either. I also tried the aptonCD to create a new iso which included 10 software installed on mint, it froze near the end. relinux does work. I still don't like that linux software is in packages(dependency hell) and not a full install like.msi or.exe. If my internet goes bye bye and I'm redoing my machine I would be screwed, but with windows I have all my applications and drivers in.msi's and.exe's on HD storage and dvd's.
Every time I use linux it feels like I'm just wasting precious time, it's more of a toy than a professional desktop OS like windows xp/7 and even windows 8. Linux on the desktop died(brain dead) a long time ago and people just forgot to remove the life support.
Some parts of the health care mandate like the penalty for not covering employees has been suspended until 2015 for all businesses, but, not the individual penalty(unconstitutional, regardless of judge dickhead Roberts pinhead judgement) for not having health insurance while earning something like $30k+ income. Yeah, that's where all our life savings is going towards the fucking monopolized(thanks to government) healthcare industry where hospitals,doctors, pharmaceuticals charge you whatever the fuck they want to until they clean you out.
The win+pageUp or pageDown to move the metro between 2 screens no longer works. I can't grab the metro with the mouse and drag it to the other screen anymore as well.
When windows 8 starts up i get the metro on first screen but second screen is a blank solid color no more taskbar desktop, i have to hit desktop tile to get both desktop taskbar on both screens, and then i can get metro on one screen and taskbar on second.
When installing applications for the first time windows no longer automatically pins the main program to the metro you have to scroll down on second page of metro and look through all that mess to find your program and pin it to the 1st page metro.
I can't pin my shutdown and restart shortcuts to the metro anymore. The metro side scrolling with the mouse is sluggish compared to windows 8.
Labels in the metro are nice but haven't found a way yet to change the font's size, color, type. But, I think i have seen this option somewhere not 100% sure.
I kind of understand it now how people perceive windows 8 and 8.1 to be schizophrenic, we only need one GUI, but people should have the option to choose between the old start menu and the full metro gui.
The metro has to extend to the second or third monitor. It has to open any desktop applications in front of it. The left side corner is basically a taskbar anyway and should manage the old desktop apps as well.
I think it's going to be a long way before this type of OS matures and one of these GUI's will win the battle.
It would be nice if the gaming industry(or nvidia since they are not invited to the next gen party) came together with the open source community and develop a linux or bsd (single, just one that's it not hundreds) console distro, turning any pc into a console system with a xbox 360 or ps3 type UI to make things simple and friendly, no full linux OS desktop. Fuck directx. ps4 will be using a modified opengl anyway.
It's ridiculous that you still have to purchase a console dev kit(stiff requirements) these days especially when the hardware is not unique but off the shelf pc parts.
With the 24 hour activation requirement for the xbox one, I doubt it will sell well. Not sure about the ps4, they might also take this route.
???? Yes, all these linux drop menu's like gnome 2, kde, mate, cinnamon, etc... are all windows 95 clones. Name a OS gui that had this type of start button drop menu before windows 95. and yes I know pre-windows 95 applications themselves had drop menu's but this is about the OS gui itself.
Actually, my desktop is a dual monitor setup and i don't have any problems hitting the corners. I think once you get into a corner the mouse just stops feels like there is a small stub to activate the charm bar or that left side taskbar thing.
Wasn't talking about running the metro apps but the win32 applications in front of the metro. I know Win32 and WinRT are two seperate api's, one for old desktop applications and other for metro. But I doubt it's hard for win32 applications like firefox, photoshop, visual studio, call of duty, etc.. to open and run in front of the metroUI just like you can use ModernMix to run metro apps on the taskbar ui desktop. Or MS could have found away to wrap the WinRT around the old win32 to open the desktop applications natively in the metro.
Probably windows 9 or 10 will be a full metro WinRT Operating system with no win32 compatibility.
MS could had made metro UI the only and primary UI for windows 8 and rid the taskbar for good, but as usual those fucking idiots do a half ass job. FUCK HEADS. I don't think MS would of had any issue making metroUI open any win32 applications in the foreground. The metro UI left corners operate like a taskbar anyway so what was the point of the taskbar UI. It would of been nice as well to have the user add their own custom title labels for the grouped tiles. Also, tiles showing how many instances of firefox or any application for that matter opened. Why couldn't these shit heads just give the user 3 options; old windows 7 menu UI no metro, taskbar UI and metro, and lastly just metro UI.
In windows 7, I either pinned most used applications to the taskbar, desktop, or rocketdock. Even though you could pin in the windows 7 menu favorites I just never used it. I hate exiting the metro and going back into the old taskbar UI that's pretty much useless to me.
Linux needs to dump all those old 1990's looking DE's and just adopt the metro.
I find windows 8 metro more intuitive, easy to manage, better looking than the old 95/xp/7/kde/xfce/mate/cinnamon/lxde start menus. Hopefully in the future, with windows 9, the metro will replace the old taskbar UI. Anyway, windows 8.1 will let you customize the metro a lot more which is a big plus. But, for now, I barely use the metro except for mail, youtube fm, gmaps, and opening applications that I use but not often like gimp, office 2010, blender, etc... the applications that I use so often are pinned to the taskbar.
Unity is kind of a mess, you still can't pin your programs to the dash like you can on metro. Linux needs to adopt the metro and just dump all those other 95 clone menu's which there are too many of anyway.
The problem with windows 8 is that it did not go all the way and make the Metro the only and primary UI for the OS which means the Metro has to be customizable((((((change background wallpapers, label grouped tiles, sort tiles, scroll vertical as well, change tile icons to any shape or object,etc....)))))), run any type of application and more than 1 instant, of course extend to multiple monitors. Sick of the old taskbar and just want something simple like the Metro but with powerful features at the same time. I mean they are addressing some of the issues with windows 8 which we will see in 8.1, but hopefully the Metro will be the only UI for windows 9.
Sorry, but i'm just sick of looking at and using all these 1990's type 95/xp/7/kde UI's. We are moving towards touch screens and kinect type control which will replace the keyboard and mouse, this will actually help a lot of people who have carpel tunnel syndrome.
Or Microsoft could had just released sp2 for windows 7 and release a full working metro OS for those who want it.
LibreOffice Calc is definitely faster in calculations(900 Columns, 5000 Rows) and uses less ram than office excel 2010/2013 as I tested. But, I prefer the ribbon over the old menu systems and hopefully sometime in the future FOSS will incorporate the ribbon into openoffice or libreoffice. Not really sure who needs to use Excels maximum 16, 384 Columns and 1,048, 576 Rows especially when excel eats ram like it's nothing. It's better to use a relational database instead of excel or access(database corruption). A lot of windows based professional applications seem great until you realize the bloat and stability issues it comes with.
It took me 30 minutes to remove the adobe creative suit 6 trial from my system at the same time it was thrashing my drive that I could not do anything else.
I don't think there will be a windows 9 Per Se, for now on it's nothing but updates(fixes and extra functionality added) every year, although the first update coming this fall or winter will be free, but the next update next year will probably not be free.
I installed and ran classic shell which is free and it's superb if you dig the old 95/xp/7 menu's. I removed it since I'm used to metro.
STFU! already about windows 8 failing for being to complicated or schizophrenic. Same shit was said about 95, xp, 7, etc... I got used to the menu and it does not take more than 4 seconds to click on the windows key and find your app or application icon quickly. Like i mentioned before in other posts it took me 8 minutes to install windows 8 from a usb on my phenom x6 machine and about 40 minutes for installing the vendor proprietary drivers, than applications and apps, and finally windows updates. With windows 7 everything took me nearly 3 hours. If you want the old menu style for crying out loud go and get classical shell which is free and it has the old 95, xp, and 7 menu's to choose from.
fine, don't open source the drivers but at least open up the video card hardware so dev's can write their own drivers. Intel and amd cpu's are open why not gpu's.
Well, what the hell do you expect if the west is occupying the middle east, get the fuck out of there already and let the muslims deal with their own problems. Shit! U.S should give the Israeli's new jersey or hawaii and no more Israel vs Muslim nations. If nothing gets done this west vs middle east thing will never change and we in the north america will always be a target which means u.s citizen will lose more rights in the name of security. Another option, we just nuke the whole middle east including the Israeli's and be done with it. Something has to change drastically.
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It's a fork of FreeBSD 4.8 from 2003. I ran the most recent freebsd and pc-bsd and both are rock solid. It was easier to install flash player on bsd than opensuse 13.1(it did not work even installing from the terminal). I ran linux open source applications just fine with no issue on pc-bsd 9.2.
Microsoft is a joke when it comes to licensing their products. Why couldn't they just release the Windows 8.1 pro for $99 3 license. Instead we get standard, pro, pro packs, family packs, upgrade 8.1 to 8.1 pro, etc.... Make it fucking simple for the regular joe. I can't blame people(not into gaming, adobe products, or windows development) for leaving MS for Linux which is $0 cost. Now, people complaining of issues when upgrading from 8 to 8.1. They should of allowed their customers who bought a windows 8 copy to download a full 8.1 ISO instead of the upgrade broken path. Shitheads. Corporations always ripping of their fucking customers, just ask Time Warner Cable.
Regardless of changing the cache from 350 to 1mb, it still trashes my hard drive, slows down, freezes and crashes. On windows 8 it's a little bit more stable than windows 7 but still issues. I switched over to chrome and no software issues whats so ever. Only thing I hate about chrome is the font.
from 1990 to 2012 u.s government revenue a year was about 2 trillion(1990) to 3+ trillion 2012, about 40+ trillion in taxes for the past 23 years collected. And yet, we still can't have a universal healthcare system like Canada. Where did all the fucking money go to??? SS full of IOU's since government put their grabby hands in it to pay for other things. We don't need any more new fucking taxes on the books since money just disappears from the government so easily. I guess government does not care about pissing our hard earned money since it's not theirs to begin with. All the perks these government employees get especially the $400k a year pensions in California.
Linux fails compared to windows 7/8/8.1. Distro's are still too damn buggy and too many damn updates. It seems that the linux community releases buggy code and then patches it with other buggy code and this goes on and on and on and on..............runs in a loop. Is there any production code???? Well, it's free software so don't expect anything of quality.
I tried almost every distro and it's always some process that is crashing, gui parts like icons or taskbars disappearing, the whole OS crashing, samba not working, trying to detect other linux shares on the network does not work all the time, OS update manager permission denied have to go through cli, but than updates don't install look online for solutions for this fix, and this just keeps going and going. LINUX, TOO MANY PROBLEMS IT FEELS LIKE I'M BACK ON WINDOWS 98/ME.
Although, out of all linux distros, I like the Ubuntu the best. It's easier on the eyes and enjoyable to look at, but so many damn issues like the rest of distros.
To save you a headache, if you do serious work and gaming, windows 7 and windows 8 which go for $100 or $200 pro version are a better 5 year investment than any linux distro.
How is the metro interface screwed up? Windows 7 aero causes eye strain for me and found the favorites in the start menu is limited when it comes to adding items and its slow as well when expanding the control panel as a menu. Windows 8, I can add as may items to the metro as I want and resize them as well. The simple and transparent taskbar is a lot easier on the eyes than the aero and uses less resources. On my amd machine running windows 8, i don't get disk trashing like I do in windows 7 which brings my machine to a halt.
"Microsoft taking away the user interface elements that people were used to"
Except windows 95, 2000/xp, and windows 7 menu systems are different from one another.
Intel and AMD have their cpu architectures opened to the public, why not gpu architectures so the linux and bsd communities can develop better drivers for wayland and mir windowing systems, what are they hiding. Or at least Nvidia and AMD can build an opengl only gpu for the open source world(linux, bsd). Fucking corporations.
All these streaming services suck ass. Netflix u.s sucks major balls, we get nothing but repeated old shit over and over again. I used an unblocker for chrome and got to see what Canada, Britain, Denmark netflix all have compared to U.S, guess what, better quality movies even though they have less selection. But, this is quality over u.s netflix quantity crap. Nothing to do with licensing, netflix claimed their u.s movie selection is based on customer demand, yeah like we like shitty, unheard of, b movies.
DVD's and bluerays are still relative.
Windows 8.1 is just fast, intuitive, customizable, and a lot better than windows 7. Don't care for the old start menu, never really used it, never cared for it, plus the windows 7 menu does not scroll when it exceeds the icon limit in favorites. With the metro I can pin more than 50+ applications on a single screen without the need to scroll, although, the scrolling never really bothered me. Installing the 8.1 OS, apps, applications, configuring, and transferring files is just better and faster than 7.
Windows 8/8.1 I think is a lot more productive than xp/7. To some people the metro may look childish but it's definitely easier on the eyes and quicker accessing applications just by looking at the tile icons instead of squinting reading the icon text like in windows 7 start menu. Overall, windows 8.1 is excellent.
Linux, I still have beef with the linux being too internet dependent(not everyone has 24/7 perfect internet) when it comes to installing applications(store mines in storage for later installs), although I can install whatever i need and just use aptoncd(sometimes works) or relinux to make another distro. The linux DE's are still flaky although mate and cinnamon put windows7 menu to shame. Unity is fine just wish they would make it more like the metro where you can pin whatever applications you want into the dash.
Hypocrisy, so it's okay for the politicians in government to take your data(emails, cloud storage), wiretap your phone calls, etc.. without your permission or even a court order, but, when somebody does it to the government they throw a tantrum. Nobody is supposed to be above the law(constitution) and that's including those in all three branches of government.
When you rent an apartment, storage unit, garage, etc... law enforcement can't search without a warrant unless they hear someone in distress, and this applies to email, cloud storage, isp data, voiceip, etc... regardless of the companies policies which can't override the constitution. What NSA is doing is grabbing everybody's data and storing it and than they search through it and if they find anything suspicious they get a court order and use it against the suspect. This process is just wrong. The communists(not really commi's more like feudalism) were doing stupid shit like this to their sheeple, well except for the court order.
This war on terror was complete bullshit from the beginning, 911. I wouldn't be surprised if there are top secret files hidden away somewhere in DC stating how the u.s government started ww1, ww2, korean war, vietnam,etc... using spy's..
The 2 things i like about the windows 7 UI is the aero and icon combine on the taskbar, the menu sucks. the new xfce and also cinnamon have a better and intuitive menu UI than windows 7. Major problems with linux is that it's not on par with windows when it comes to professional applications, games, and stability which is a huge problem with linux on the desktop always bugging out, freezing, and crashing after installing updates or applications. Linux feels like windows 98.
And until we get full binary software(all dependencies included) installs I don't think people with horrible internet will ever change to linux.
It's okay for light desktop users who don't care about window based software. Tried installing wine 1.6 on mint 15, ./tools/wineinstall, it failed kept asking for root privileges which I gave(sudo), and then it told me i can't run it as root. Then tried to ./configure --enable-wine64 which I got other errors so I just gave up. I wasted 30 minutes looking on the net for a fix but I just gave up. 32-bit version did not work either. I also tried the aptonCD to create a new iso which included 10 software installed on mint, it froze near the end. relinux does work. .msi or .exe. If my internet goes bye bye and I'm redoing my machine I would be screwed, but with windows I have all my applications and drivers in .msi's and .exe's on HD storage and dvd's.
I still don't like that linux software is in packages(dependency hell) and not a full install like
Every time I use linux it feels like I'm just wasting precious time, it's more of a toy than a professional desktop OS like windows xp/7 and even windows 8. Linux on the desktop died(brain dead) a long time ago and people just forgot to remove the life support.
Some parts of the health care mandate like the penalty for not covering employees has been suspended until 2015 for all businesses, but, not the individual penalty(unconstitutional, regardless of judge dickhead Roberts pinhead judgement) for not having health insurance while earning something like $30k+ income. Yeah, that's where all our life savings is going towards the fucking monopolized(thanks to government) healthcare industry where hospitals,doctors, pharmaceuticals charge you whatever the fuck they want to until they clean you out.
The win+pageUp or pageDown to move the metro between 2 screens no longer works. I can't grab the metro with the mouse and drag it to the other screen anymore as well.
When windows 8 starts up i get the metro on first screen but second screen is a blank solid color no more taskbar desktop, i have to hit desktop tile to get both desktop taskbar on both screens, and then i can get metro on one screen and taskbar on second.
When installing applications for the first time windows no longer automatically pins the main program to the metro you have to scroll down on second page of metro and look through all that mess to find your program and pin it to the 1st page metro.
I can't pin my shutdown and restart shortcuts to the metro anymore. The metro side scrolling with the mouse is sluggish compared to windows 8.
Labels in the metro are nice but haven't found a way yet to change the font's size, color, type. But, I think i have seen this option somewhere not 100% sure.
I kind of understand it now how people perceive windows 8 and 8.1 to be schizophrenic, we only need one GUI, but people should have the option to choose between the old start menu and the full metro gui.
The metro has to extend to the second or third monitor. It has to open any desktop applications in front of it. The left side corner is basically a taskbar anyway and should manage the old desktop apps as well.
I think it's going to be a long way before this type of OS matures and one of these GUI's will win the battle.
It would be nice if the gaming industry(or nvidia since they are not invited to the next gen party) came together with the open source community and develop a linux or bsd (single, just one that's it not hundreds) console distro, turning any pc into a console system with a xbox 360 or ps3 type UI to make things simple and friendly, no full linux OS desktop. Fuck directx. ps4 will be using a modified opengl anyway.
It's ridiculous that you still have to purchase a console dev kit(stiff requirements) these days especially when the hardware is not unique but off the shelf pc parts.
With the 24 hour activation requirement for the xbox one, I doubt it will sell well. Not sure about the ps4, they might also take this route.
????
Yes, all these linux drop menu's like gnome 2, kde, mate, cinnamon, etc... are all windows 95 clones. Name a OS gui that had this type of start button drop menu before windows 95. and yes I know pre-windows 95 applications themselves had drop menu's but this is about the OS gui itself.
Actually, my desktop is a dual monitor setup and i don't have any problems hitting the corners. I think once you get into a corner the mouse just stops feels like there is a small stub to activate the charm bar or that left side taskbar thing.
Wasn't talking about running the metro apps but the win32 applications in front of the metro.
I know Win32 and WinRT are two seperate api's, one for old desktop applications and other for metro. But I doubt it's hard for win32 applications like firefox, photoshop, visual studio, call of duty, etc.. to open and run in front of the metroUI just like you can use ModernMix to run metro apps on the taskbar ui desktop. Or MS could have found away to wrap the WinRT around the old win32 to open the desktop applications natively in the metro.
Probably windows 9 or 10 will be a full metro WinRT Operating system with no win32 compatibility.
MS could had made metro UI the only and primary UI for windows 8 and rid the taskbar for good, but as usual those fucking idiots do a half ass job. FUCK HEADS. I don't think MS would of had any issue making metroUI open any win32 applications in the foreground. The metro UI left corners operate like a taskbar anyway so what was the point of the taskbar UI. It would of been nice as well to have the user add their own custom title labels for the grouped tiles. Also, tiles showing how many instances of firefox or any application for that matter opened. Why couldn't these shit heads just give the user 3 options; old windows 7 menu UI no metro, taskbar UI and metro, and lastly just metro UI.
In windows 7, I either pinned most used applications to the taskbar, desktop, or rocketdock. Even though you could pin in the windows 7 menu favorites I just never used it. I hate exiting the metro and going back into the old taskbar UI that's pretty much useless to me.
Linux needs to dump all those old 1990's looking DE's and just adopt the metro.
I find windows 8 metro more intuitive, easy to manage, better looking than the old 95/xp/7/kde/xfce/mate/cinnamon/lxde start menus. Hopefully in the future, with windows 9, the metro will replace the old taskbar UI. Anyway, windows 8.1 will let you customize the metro a lot more which is a big plus. But, for now, I barely use the metro except for mail, youtube fm, gmaps, and opening applications that I use but not often like gimp, office 2010, blender, etc... the applications that I use so often are pinned to the taskbar.
Unity is kind of a mess, you still can't pin your programs to the dash like you can on metro. Linux needs to adopt the metro and just dump all those other 95 clone menu's which there are too many of anyway.
The problem with windows 8 is that it did not go all the way and make the Metro the only and primary UI for the OS which means the Metro has to be customizable((((((change background wallpapers, label grouped tiles, sort tiles, scroll vertical as well, change tile icons to any shape or object,etc....)))))), run any type of application and more than 1 instant, of course extend to multiple monitors. Sick of the old taskbar and just want something simple like the Metro but with powerful features at the same time. I mean they are addressing some of the issues with windows 8 which we will see in 8.1, but hopefully the Metro will be the only UI for windows 9.
Sorry, but i'm just sick of looking at and using all these 1990's type 95/xp/7/kde UI's. We are moving towards touch screens and kinect type control which will replace the keyboard and mouse, this will actually help a lot of people who have carpel tunnel syndrome.
Or Microsoft could had just released sp2 for windows 7 and release a full working metro OS for those who want it.
LibreOffice Calc is definitely faster in calculations(900 Columns, 5000 Rows) and uses less ram than office excel 2010/2013 as I tested. But, I prefer the ribbon over the old menu systems and hopefully sometime in the future FOSS will incorporate the ribbon into openoffice or libreoffice. Not really sure who needs to use Excels maximum 16, 384 Columns and 1,048, 576 Rows especially when excel eats ram like it's nothing. It's better to use a relational database instead of excel or access(database corruption). A lot of windows based professional applications seem great until you realize the bloat and stability issues it comes with.
It took me 30 minutes to remove the adobe creative suit 6 trial from my system at the same time it was thrashing my drive that I could not do anything else.
I don't think there will be a windows 9 Per Se, for now on it's nothing but updates(fixes and extra functionality added) every year, although the first update coming this fall or winter will be free, but the next update next year will probably not be free.
I installed and ran classic shell which is free and it's superb if you dig the old 95/xp/7 menu's. I removed it since I'm used to metro.
STFU! already about windows 8 failing for being to complicated or schizophrenic. Same shit was said about 95, xp, 7, etc... I got used to the menu and it does not take more than 4 seconds to click on the windows key and find your app or application icon quickly. Like i mentioned before in other posts it took me 8 minutes to install windows 8 from a usb on my phenom x6 machine and about 40 minutes for installing the vendor proprietary drivers, than applications and apps, and finally windows updates. With windows 7 everything took me nearly 3 hours. If you want the old menu style for crying out loud go and get classical shell which is free and it has the old 95, xp, and 7 menu's to choose from.
fine, don't open source the drivers but at least open up the video card hardware so dev's can write their own drivers. Intel and amd cpu's are open why not gpu's.
Well, what the hell do you expect if the west is occupying the middle east, get the fuck out of there already and let the muslims deal with their own problems. Shit! U.S should give the Israeli's new jersey or hawaii and no more Israel vs Muslim nations. If nothing gets done this west vs middle east thing will never change and we in the north america will always be a target which means u.s citizen will lose more rights in the name of security. Another option, we just nuke the whole middle east including the Israeli's and be done with it. Something has to change drastically.