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Microsoft Drops 'Metro' Name For Windows 8 UI

hawkinspeter writes "The BBC is reporting that Microsoft is dropping the 'Metro' name for the new Windows 8 UI. Apparently, the catchy new name they've settled on is 'Windows 8 style UI!' This has happened due to a (potential) trademark dispute with Metro AG, a German retail giant. Microsoft said, 'We have used Metro style as a code name during the product development cycle across many of our product lines. As we get closer to launch and transition from industry dialogue to a broad consumer dialogue we will use our commercial names.' I'm wondering if Microsoft planned this to get publicity for their new OS and UI or whether they just forget to check on how 'Metro' is used around the world."

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  1. Sadly... by Megaweapon · · Score: 5, Funny

    the chose to use Bing to check. Shoulda used Google!

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  2. Wow, what a catchy new name! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Did Ballmer come up with it himself?

    1. Re:Wow, what a catchy new name! by marcello_dl · · Score: 2

      Actually, he throws chairs against the wall until inspiration comes, but this time he had too few chairs.

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  3. Codenames are common. by jellomizer · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Me for stuff I work on I give my products Latin Code Names for the product. That give me time to get the product done and working well before I can come up with a more creative or marketing friendly name.

    The code name Metro doesn't really tell us anything, it is just a place holder name to work on your project... Mainly because all your code is placed in a folder with a name and in a project with a name.

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    1. Re:Codenames are common. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Not strictly true. Metro was chosen originally for the UI because the tiles slide from side to side, like the windows of a metro train when you're standing on the platform.

      Dont ask how i know. ;)

    2. Re:Codenames are common. by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Remember when Carl Sagan got upset with Apple for using Carl Sagan as a code name for the Power Mac 7100? They renamed the project BHA for "Butt-Head Astronomer".

    3. Re:Codenames are common. by pympdaddyc · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yea that's not what this was though, this was a marketing term and they started pushing it very early. Similarly technical documentation for developers refers to it all as Metro, if they were going to change that because it's not the real name, they would have done it before it went RTM.

      Consider this: they have no other name for it. "Aero" is still "Aero", but "Metro" is now "Windows-8 style UI".

    4. Re:Codenames are common. by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 3, Funny

      He sued because of the BHA thing and got laughed out of court.

      I respected Sagan, but that whole episode was douchie.

    5. Re:Codenames are common. by camperdave · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Not strictly true. Metro was chosen originally for the UI because the tiles slide from side to side, like the windows of a metro train when you're standing on the platform.

      Dont ask how i know. ;)

      Close. Microsoft's design team says that the Metro UI is partly inspired by signs commonly found at public transport systems, for instance on the King County Metro transit system, which serves the Seattle area where Microsoft is headquartered.

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    6. Re:Codenames are common. by larry+bagina · · Score: 2

      hmm. I assumed it was short for "metrosexual". Some of my friends at MS called it BiCu (pronounced sort of like Haiku), short for "bi-curious". I think that fits since they're trying to target the Apple/designer/hipster crowd but they're also retaining legacy windows for the suits.

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    7. Re:Codenames are common. by larry+bagina · · Score: 5, Funny

      He just wanted billions and billions of dollars...

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    8. Re:Codenames are common. by i+kan+reed · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You seriously think it's cool to first name a product after someone without their permission, then change the name to imply negative things about the person because they didn't like that?

    9. Re:Codenames are common. by todfm · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You have the wrong username, because I don't think you CAN read. Carl Sagan was a code name. I wasn't used in public. And last I checked you have the freedom to express negative opinions about buttheads all you want.

    10. Re:Codenames are common. by CanHasDIY · · Score: 5, Informative

      Metro : US and French name for an underground railway system, aka Underground, Tube, Subway, etc .etc .etc ...

      Also, in US at least, slang term for a straight guy who acts/dresses like a homosexual.

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    11. Re:Codenames are common. by CanHasDIY · · Score: 2

      Dont ask how i know. ;)

      By making it up?

      He probably works for BART and doesn't want to get lynched.

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    12. Re:Codenames are common. by Bigbutt · · Score: 3, Informative

      In DC it's called the Metro.

      [John]

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    13. Re:Codenames are common. by Sique · · Score: 5, Informative

      Actually, it's a shortening of the original name of the Paris underground trains: Compagnie du Métropolitain de Paris.

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    14. Re:Codenames are common. by Quila · · Score: 2

      They didn't name a product. It was an internal code name and the system was never publicly marketed as such. Sagan learned about the internal ongoings at Apple (probably from a Sagan fan at Apple) and got offended and worried that it *might* eventually be used publicly. Since it was never used in commerce, and you can't sue on what only may happen, Sagan had no case, Apple didn't have to comply with the C&D.

      Then they change it to BHA (Butt Head Astronomer) due to Sagan being, well, a butt head. Sagan sues. Too bad for him and good for free speech that just making fun of someone isn't libel. If it were, the South Park creators would owe billions and billions of dollars.

    15. Re:Codenames are common. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So if Samsung names their next phone, "Steve Jobs", that is ok? And if one fanboy complains, it is ok then if Samsung renames it as Human Liver Theif!

    16. Re:Codenames are common. by LaughingRadish · · Score: 2

      In older times, the term was "fop" or "dandy".

  4. Next up... by hackula · · Score: 5, Funny

    M$ set to release the all new Ford Tablet, the Walmart Phone 9, and the Trader Joe's Web Application Framework!

  5. I have better UI name in mind... by sinij · · Score: 4, Funny

    I have better UI name in mind... Windows Start UI

    1. Re:I have better UI name in mind... by sinij · · Score: 4, Funny

      How about Windows Defenestration UI?

  6. isn't it ridiculous? by circletimessquare · · Score: 5, Interesting

    just look up metro on google

    a bunch of transit authorities use the word, there's metroPCS, some library consortium, a few other government entities, etc.

    clearly, the word is common and abstract enough that anyone can claim it's usage

    trademark law, copyright law, intellectual property: it is such an absurd, useless pox on civilization. i foresee and fervently hope that history will write of this century about how the whole concept of intellectual property law became abolished. it's such useless wasteful, lawyer mongering nonsense by trolls

    we really need to just lose the entire concept of intellectual property from our societies. it is utterly destructive to the free flow of culture and ideas and does NOT do what it purports to do: protect creators. no, it empowers litigious rent-seeking parasites. so much wasted money energy and time

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    1. Re:isn't it ridiculous? by hey_popey · · Score: 2

      clearly, the word is common and abstract enough that anyone can claim it's usage

      Exactly. Usually, no trademark issues are raised when the two companies' activities are so different.
      My guess in that case is that the German Metro wanted to avoid a splash of bad notoriety in case Windows 8 is a flop.

    2. Re:isn't it ridiculous? by Vanderhoth · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I'd guess that over the last year there has been a huge amount of bad press from tech forms and publications where authors have written about how much they hate metro. Changing the name is MS way of re-branding the UI and getting away from the bad press.

      The same sort of thing happened with vista, there was a ton of press on the OS when it went by it's "code name" Longhorn before it was released, a lot of the press was pretty bad. So MS changed the name to Vista just before the release to re-brand it at the last minute and confuse the public. It's the equivalent to "Oh! I read this really terrible review about Longhorn, I'm not putting that on my machine. What's this? Vista! Well I haven't read anything bad about that I'll give it a try!"

    3. Re:isn't it ridiculous? by circletimessquare · · Score: 2

      of course i don't support some assholes opening their own sandwich shop called McDonalds across from a real McDonalds. this is valid intellectual property law. this is a core concern. but we have gone FAR FAR away from this example:

      you don't admit that with 70 year copyright extensions, and a completely unrelated use of a common word, that things in the world of intellectual property are a complete farce, only useful to litigious rent seeking parasites?

      false monopolies and rent-seeking parasites are an anti-capitalist force, do you not see that? you don't admit that this is completely ridiculous that this unrelated use of a common abstract word, "metro", even by a large company with plenty of lawyers and well-versed on their own bullying intellectual property shenanigans, even they can be bullied into submission here?

      admit it: intellectual property law has become a destructive absurd force. far, far overreaching it's original intent, and no longer having to with protecting creators, and just emboldening litigious trolls that do not create anything

      you talk of capitalists and creators making money from their labor? ok, well here we have a case of a creator having difficulty making money from their labor: due to an intellectual property troll forcing them to retool the name of their project

      open your eyes

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    4. Re:isn't it ridiculous? by camperdave · · Score: 2

      So? Just stick MS in front of it, like MSWord for a word processor, MSDOS for a disk operating system, or MSWindows for a window based gui: MSMetro.

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    5. Re:isn't it ridiculous? by ceoyoyo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      My guess is that Microsoft is using it as an excuse to yank the Metro name, in line with the old theory that changing the name gets rid of the bad connotations.

  7. Microsoft and their product names by cerberusss · · Score: 5, Funny

    Apparently, the catchy new name they've settled on is 'Windows 8 style UI'

    Well, it was either that, or "Microsoft Office Live Style UI Media Center Edition for Windows Genuine Advantage".

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    1. Re:Microsoft and their product names by Erikderzweite · · Score: 2

      "Microsoft Office Live Style UI Media Center Edition for Windows Genuine Advantage and Company GmbH"

      Fixed that for you.

  8. Re:Real catchy alternative by Dupple · · Score: 5, Funny

    Window Pain

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  9. Not Chicago by michaelmalak · · Score: 3, Interesting

    No, Metro was supposed to be more than e.g the "Chicago" codename for Windows 95. Microsoft promotional materials showed photos of the New York subway signs to illustrate the big bold fonts and clutter-free design they were after.

  10. Re:Real catchy alternative by ultrasawblade · · Score: 2

    Microsoft Windows(tm) User Interface 8 Series, Build 6292, Service Pack 2a

  11. Not final name by orzetto · · Score: 2

    They have not settled on this name, this is a temporary form to address what was known as Metro until a new name is been found, probably because there is an impending lawsuit in the works.

    From TFA:

    The Windows team is "working on a replacement term" according to the memo, "and plans to land on that by the end of this week." Until then, employees have been advised to refer to the Metro style user interface as the "Windows 8 style UI.

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  12. Re:Real catchy alternative by Megaweapon · · Score: 4, Funny

    I wonder if any Van Halen fans at MS pushed for "UI812".

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  13. The real reason by JDG1980 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I don't believe that this is the real reason Microsoft is changing the branding. If they thought it was valuable enough to keep, they would fight for it. But among tech-savvy users, Metro has become a punchline and a negative brand, just like Vista. I smell another Mojave coming up.

  14. results from Google by adrianhensler · · Score: 2

    This search seems to tell a different story: http://www.google.com/?q=site%3Amicrosoft.com+metro

    793,000 results.

    Will take them a few days to clean that up.

  15. Re:New Name by tehcyder · · Score: 2, Funny

    You forgot to sign your post:

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    I don't think he forgto, more that he assumed it would be redundant statement of the entirely bleeding obvious.

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  16. Re:Metro AG isn't joking by hawkinspeter · · Score: 2

    We've got that in Britain too: http://www.metro.co.uk/ I think it's an off-shoot of the Daily Mail, so I always avoid reading it and use it to line my guinea pig's cage. Still, it's worth what you pay for it.

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  17. Shiny Flying Shitmonster UI by pegasustonans · · Score: 2

    Here are some other alternatives:

    HiggledyPiggledy 2.0

    Hunt and Poke: Home Edition

    Explosive Nostril Overlayer

    Thumbgasm

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  18. It's an excuse by Tridus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They've been calling it Metro for quite a while, including on all that stuff put out about Windows Phone 7. You know WP7, that phone OS of theirs that's in production. If codenames really don't stick around once its in production, then how do they explain that?

    The truth here is that Windows 8 has been poorly received, and Metro is the reason why. Too many people hate it on the desktop. In an attempt to change the conversation they're going to change the name and hope that the negative buzz doesn't carry over.

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  19. They have chosen the wrong name by GPLHost-Thomas · · Score: 4, Funny

    They should have call it how it looks like: Sokoban

    1. Re:They have chosen the wrong name by armanox · · Score: 2

      That would also make for a really fun built in game - use your home screen to play Sokoban.

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    2. Re:They have chosen the wrong name by DJRumpy · · Score: 5, Funny

      I was personally hoping for "J-Pop American Fun Time Now! UI"...

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yj1OnORTnAM

  20. Re:Real catchy alternative by JanneM · · Score: 2

    Bob.

    Hey, at least MS probably still owns the trademark.

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  21. "Metro" was probably too Urban and Gay by assertation · · Score: 2, Funny

    Windows is the operating system of just about EVERYBODY. Including people who may be conservative and even provincial. My guess is that a marketing person at Microsoft finally got heard and they decided to lose the name "Metro" after learning it was too urban and possibly "gay" aka "threatening" for some folks.

  22. Overreaction by microbox · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's not cool at all; however, Sagan overreacted, and deserves to be laughed at for such. Even great men are not perfect. Sagan is my personal hero, and this episode humanises him to me.

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  23. Edited for rednecks by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 2

    He just wanted thousands of dollars...

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  24. Metro was a stupid name ! by eulernet · · Score: 2

    In Paris, the Metro is the transportation's network, and by extension the name of the stations and of the trains.

    The stations smell like piss, with beggars and tramps everywhere (and yes, I'm french).
    Once there is a small problem on a line, all the traffic is slowed down.
    The trains almost always are late, especially when the weather is hot.

    Finally, the parisians always try to force their way in the train, even though it's full.

    Why they chose this name is beyond me !

  25. Worked for Vista = Win7 by Maow · · Score: 2

    I just haven't been able to see a difference between Vista & Windows 7, yet one is reviled and one is revered.

    So, changing the name and nothing else may be a good move - people seem guilible.

    1. Re:Worked for Vista = Win7 by UnknowingFool · · Score: 2

      Er? Vista was buggy and slow. Win 7 on the same hardware was actually fast and responsive and stable.

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  26. I've got it: by Compaqt · · Score: 4, Funny

    The UI formerly known as Metro

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  27. IP was an excuse by onyxruby · · Score: 2

    My guess is that the demand for compensation came in from someone's attorneys to Microsoft's headquarters and Microsoft jumped at the excuse political opportunity to change the name. Backed by Metro being hard to trademark as it's used by municipalities worldwide for mass transit and the name change was a shoe in from the legal side.

    Marketing had a problem in that Metro already had a god awful reputation in the market. Enterprises won't touch Windows 8 because Microsoft forces the Metro interface as the default interface. They are simply trying to soften the blow of forcing the world to use the Metro interface by default whether they want to or not.

    Think about it, they are betting one of the worlds largest companies on an interface that is universally loathed if your not on a tablet. This may well be the largest bet in history.

  28. Poison your own search results, good job MS by belgianguy · · Score: 2

    Explain to a John Doe in what regard Windows 8 RT differs from Windows 8.
    What's a Surface now? The multitouch tabletop hardware + software? Not anymore, now it's the tablet-netbook hybrid.
    Even if they come up with a new name after the sleek marketing speak emanating from "Windows 8-style UI", it'll still cause confusion and introduce clutter for people looking up "Metro". Easily avoidable if only they had done their homework.

    To those claiming it was just a codename and was never meant to be used publicly: A certain S.B. disagrees.

  29. OLD NAME: "METRO" NEW NAME: ? by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 5, Funny

    I suggest "TOMBSTONE".

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  30. No, they're not by Jim+Hall · · Score: 5, Informative

    > Apparently, the catchy new name they've settled on is 'Windows 8 style UI'

    I'm no Microsoft fan, but TFS is wrong. Both linked articles aren't that long, so it's not hard to find what they've actually said. Microsoft has dropped "Metro" and is looking for a new name. Until they figure out a new name, they have asked developers to stop referring to the interface as "Metro" and use "Windows 8 style UI" instead. But the point is, Microsoft has not settled on this as a new name.

    From the BBC article:

    Instead of Metro, Microsoft has told developers to simply refer to the blocky display as a "Windows 8 style UI" for the time being.

    From the Verge article:

    Until then, employees have been advised to refer to the Metro style user interface as the "Windows 8 style UI."

  31. Re:OLD NAME: "METRO" NEW NAME: ? by Froboz23 · · Score: 2

    How about "Windows Phone 8 Phone Graphical GUI Interface for Phones." If it's not already taken.

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  32. Trademark is useful by Quila · · Score: 2

    trademark law, copyright law, intellectual property: it is such an absurd, useless pox on civilization.

    Despite corporations seeing it as "property" it has a useful purpose, to keep the consumer from getting ripped off. Otherwise, you could by an expensive Snap-On tool, only to find out it's a cheap pot metal knock-off legally using the Snap-On name. The way it is now, Snap-On will go after the offender in order to protect its name, which protects us, the consumer.

  33. Re:OLD NAME: "METRO" NEW NAME: ? by el+cisne · · Score: 2

    Microsoft(c) Windows(tm) Phone Experience PE Live 2012 - Home Professional Extreme, Version 3.0 (SP 4.32.1.192)

  34. Trademark only applies to a particular industry by Khyber · · Score: 2

    "trademark dispute with Metro AG, a German retail giant."

    And they're just a retailer, not a software and hardware company, so there would be no real confusion to any half-assed consumer.

    Therefore there is no trademark dispute. Microsoft is avoiding this lawsuit even though they're in the right, for once.

    I wonder why they'd avoid this?

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  35. In the grand tradition of "Wince" and "WIMP"... by quacking+duck · · Score: 2

    "Windows 8 style UI"

    shall become known as "Wait-style UI" or "Weight-style UI"

    1. Re:In the grand tradition of "Wince" and "WIMP"... by roc97007 · · Score: 2

      ...and written "w8" (wait). Brilliant.

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  36. It was more than a code name, in production use by SuperKendall · · Score: 2

    The code name Metro doesn't really tell us anything,

    Yes it does. They have been using Metro with WP7 since launch.

    It describes an interface generally composed of tiles, where more content exists to one side or the other and that content is visually truncated at start so as to reveal you need to scroll to see more.

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  37. Sticking with the "auto-motive" theme - My Vote: by flameproof · · Score: 2

    MS Edsel.

    Or perhaps Windows Pinto . Same kind of late '70's, clunky design, bad color pallet choices. I mean, it's bound to explode in the ass-end eventually, right?

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  38. MeToo by 12WTF$ · · Score: 2

    Innovation by copying.
    I suggest they rename it MeToo

    This is a wonderous name as it also harkens back to those halcyon days before XP, as in
    ME 2.0

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  39. Oh my God by ILongForDarkness · · Score: 2

    Someone has already thought to use the name Metro for a company who would have thought?

    Seriously though there is a crap load of "Metro" companies that I know of:

    LA Metro (among others)
    Metro PCS
    Metro a grocery chain in Toronto area
    Metro in Germany
    Metro (a collection of urban newspapers in Canada (and probably elsewhere))

    I realise the law is ridiculous but it seems silly that you could get sued for a name of feature of a product because someone's regional company has the same name. I'm pretty sure someone has a company named Windows.

  40. Re:OLD NAME: "METRO" NEW NAME: ? by Waccoon · · Score: 3, Funny

    I propose "Trainwreck".

    The theme is still consistent with the original name, but with... a twist. YEEEEEEAAAHHH