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With $8.6M In Kickstarter Funds, Ouya Opens Console Pre-Orders

Chameleon Man writes with an excerpt from PC Mag: "Early this morning, the Android-based Ouya console ended its run on Kickstarter with nearly $8.6 million in user donations. In recent weeks, the company has secured a number of content partners for the device, but now it's time to see if Ouya can really deliver. Interested buyers can now pre-order an Ouya on the company's website. In the U.S., one console and one controller will cost $109, one console plus two controllers will be $139, and one console and four controllers will be $199. All orders include a $10 shipping charge." Adds Chameleon Man: "Here's to hoping that an open-source console can gain a foothold in an already competitive market."

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  1. Re:I got one! by Ironhandx · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I'm hoping its something that can beat the Wii at its own low-end game. A cheap console with cheapish games without Nanny Nintendo watching all of the games that get released on it to make sure they're fit for our eyes would be fantastic.

  2. Re:I got one! by hey · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But the Wii has the fun movement controller.

  3. How open is this "open console"? by Adrian+Lopez · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I asked developers whether Ouya will run games sold outside the official store (without having to root the device, like with to Android's "unknown sources"), but they never replied. Until they do, I don't consider this a particularly open console.

    Have we reached an era when even those who advertise openness won't release commercial platforms that aren't like walled gardens?

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    1. Re:How open is this "open console"? by guises · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Have they advertised this as an open console? I didn't get that impression at all. Do we know that they aren't going to require a signed OS? Will I be able to run my own ROM? I haven't been able to find that information.

      Actually, I can't understand why so many people are behind this. Both from a gamer's perspective and from a developer's this seems like a non-starter. Open platforms can sometimes overcome the lack of a customer base by virtue of their openness, but we don't seem to have that here. It's underpowered compared to other consoles, the 30% cut that they want for selling games through their store is huge - I've never heard of Nintendo or Sony taking more than 20%, though Microsoft jacked up their cut on XBLA after a while - and that plus the small potential customer base means there's no financial reason to develop for this thing.

      I also somewhat resent their business model. They're funding development of their product through donations, at no risk to themselves, and then demanding 30% of all sales. That's rent-seeking if I've ever seen it.

    2. Re:How open is this "open console"? by Narishma · · Score: 3, Informative

      I asked developers whether Ouya will run games sold outside the official store (without having to root the device, like with to Android's "unknown sources"), but they never replied.

      They replied in Reddit's AMA.

      Q: Is sideloading separate .apk flies to install apps not in the ouya store something that is possible without having to root and lose access to the ouya store?
      A: Yes, we will allow installation of your APKs.

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  4. Re:I got one! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Me too. Thank god someone is finally making a piracy-friendly console platform.

  5. Re:I got one! by uniquename72 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I suspect that you saw the potential BECAUSE you're not a gamer. All I hear from gamers is how underpowered the Ouya is and how no one's going to want it because the games will suck (not unlike the Wii arguments, before everyone's grandma went out and bought one). To me, that lack of power is a VERY good thing because it means the developers will be forced to make their games fun rather than pretty.

    Also, XBMC is great, and a ~$100 media center? Sign me up!

  6. Re:GPU drivers? by Desler · · Score: 3, Funny

    Unless they are going to pop out of thin air, no.

  7. Nope by TheSpoom · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Show me a physical prototype, running actual software, connected to an actual TV (in HD), and then we'll talk.

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  8. Re:I got one! by Desler · · Score: 5, Insightful

    To me, that lack of power is a VERY good thing because it means the developers will be forced to make their games fun rather than pretty.

    Or just like with most third party Wii titles, they'll be both ugly and unfun.

  9. Probably going to get one, but not preordering by gman003 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I have to admit, I'm probably going to get one of these eventually, if everything goes right.

    But that's the key - it has to work. It has to have at least two games I want to play that I can't play elsewhere, it has to function as a half-decent media player, it has to, you know, actually exist as a physical thing.

    Right now, there's just too much a chance of this never even being released for me to pre-order. And even if it does come out, there's a large chance that it won't have any good, interesting games come out.

    Now, if it does come out and live up to its promises, I'll buy one. No problem there. But I'm just still too apprehensive about it to commit to it until it's solid.

    1. Re:Probably going to get one, but not preordering by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I actually did. When I showed my pre-order receipt from -01 to the cashier a hush fell over the entire store. I laminated it in about -07 because it was getting in pretty bad shape... I was a bit worried that they wouldn't accept it, but they did more than that - they gave me the game for free and took pictures with me and the receipt to hang up in the store, with the caption "Our most patient customer".

      Sometimes it pays being a hoarder. Other times, three hundred used bottle caps sorted by size.

  10. Re:Pass. by Illusion2269 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Only reason I buy a console is so I can play games like Final Fantasy and RPGs in general.

    http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/07/31/final-fantasy-iii-launching-on-ouya

    Any other reasons?

  11. Re:I got one! by BenLeeImp · · Score: 3, Informative

    The Wii actually has a pretty weak processor.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadway_(microprocessor)

  12. Re:I got one! by Skarecrow77 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    To me, that lack of power is a VERY good thing because it means the developers will be forced to make their games fun rather than pretty.

    I -know- there are some people on here who remember that there were games before ansiotropic filtered bump mapped motion blured LOD textured polygons.

    I even seem to remember enjoying a few of them. Super metroid anyone? Final Fantasy II and III (4j and 6j)? mario kart, ice hockey, bubble bobble, zelda(s), sonic(s), punch out, tecmo bowl, come on how long do I have to go?

    there are a ton of good 2d sprite games on the android market. 2d doesn't -need- to be dead.

    Not to mention that "underpowered" is relative. This thing is roughly as powerful, give or take, as the original xbox or ps2, and I'm pretty sure there were some good enjoyable 3D games for them as well.

  13. Re:I got one! by Havenwar · · Score: 3, Funny

    At first I misread, didn't notice the second C, and I was all over that idea. Then I realized it said clicking, and that just seems unrealistic.

  14. Controller Markup? by TheAngryMob · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Anyone else notice the odd markup on the extra controllers? It's $20 per controller when you go from one to two controllers, but $30 per controller when going from one to four. Are they going to sell controllers separately or if you buy the 1 or 2 controller box, that's it, no adding on?

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  15. we have a failure to communicate by OrangeTide · · Score: 3, Interesting

    So you don't understand what kickstarter is? Or are you having difficulty wrapping your brain around the idea of a pre-order?

    It's fine if you don't want to be an early adopter. But acting like you have the superior position seems ludicrous.

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  16. Re:I got one! by medv4380 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Only if they can put out the same quality First Party development that Nintendo does. Which is no. They lack the quantity and quality of tallent to pull that off. They might be able to squeeze out of it just enough to justify a second run. Otherwise they'll just be like the Sega Master System or Turbo Graphics 16.

  17. Re:I got one! by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If you examine the datastream from a wiimote, it is actually pretty well pre-crunched by the controller.

    There are a few pairing-related oddities(bluetooth can be a bit eccentric on its good days, and Nintendo didn't excatly feel a strong pressure to be helpful to random 3rd party bluetooth devices); but you get all the accelerometer data, and the IR dot following, handled for you in hardware and sent, along with button states, as relatively trivial output data. There are a few other oddities with the onboard speaker and similar bits; but it isn't a computationally expensive peripheral to deal with.

  18. Re:Too much of a good thing by SuperKendall · · Score: 3, Insightful

    From the link:

    "Uhrman explained, "OUYA will be just as secure as any other Android-powered device. In fact, because all the paid content will require authentication with OUYA's servers, we have an added layer of security. Hacking and openness are about getting what you want to do with the hardware. Rooting the device won't give you any more access to the software.""

    Ok, so then they are saying it will only run games that communicate back to Ouya servers? As in, no current Android games...

    I am also really dubious that a simple server check cannot be got around by the same people that pirate, but I reserve judgment until we know how the authentication works.

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  19. Ouya U by tepples · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Make an Ouya game that links up over ad-hoc Wi-Fi with a client on a Nexus 7 tablet. Instant Ouya U.