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Glenn Beck Reports CIA Plot Between Embassy Killing and Something Awful

An anonymous reader writes "Here's one that even The Onion would reject as too blatantly ridiculous: American right-wing radio and TV clown Glenn Beck believes that Sean Smith aka Vile Rat, the EVE Online diplomat who was killed earlier this month during the attack on the US embassy in Benghazi, was actually a CIA agent, relaying communications to his fellow undercover agents at Something Awful."

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  1. Glenn Beck is a fucking moron. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't believe anything that guy says. He is only after ratings, and by extension, money.

    1. Re:Glenn Beck is a fucking moron. by fustakrakich · · Score: 5, Insightful

      He is only after ratings...

      Exactly what his bosses expect of him. How is that 'moronic'? You're not supposed to believe anything he says. That would be moronic. You're only expected to buy the products advertised on his show. It's TV, okay? He's there to entertain.

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    2. Re:Glenn Beck is a fucking moron. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      It's too bad almost nobody researches anything because he's already presenting the information as fact. What they do is go out and buy his books.

    3. Re:Glenn Beck is a fucking moron. by ganjadude · · Score: 5, Insightful

      this is /. where no one RTFA and you expect people to listen to MORE than one show BEFORE they decide their stance???

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    4. Re:Glenn Beck is a fucking moron. by leppi · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You realize that when you speak like this about a person, you become that which you claim to hate (I guess you would claim to hate Glenn Beck, I don't know). That doesn't bother you at all?

      I know the AC title is all about saying some kind of explitive joined with a derogatory ad hominem. But, This is EXACLTY the type of thing he would say about someone else! It's not productive. It just clouds your judgement and only speaks to people who only think like you do.

      I know it's slashdot, I know "someone on the internet is wrong". But This was modded "Insightful". Really?

    5. Re:Glenn Beck is a fucking moron. by bgat · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You have to listen to several shows and learn his method before you judge him.

      If you can survive listening to more than one of his shows nowadays, then you are either previously brain-damaged, or are seeking to become so. He was tolerable and even somewhat balanced in his early days, but then he went off the deep end and into whatever he is now.

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    6. Re:Glenn Beck is a fucking moron. by hairyfeet · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Well the bitch is once in awhile...and its rare, its like a planetary alignment, he will say something that actually make sense. hell I even agreed with him twice, crazy i know.

      The first time was a few years back when they caught that NYC guy with a failed bomb and while the right wing wanted to go "enemy combatant" and take away his rights Beck said "You don't trash the constitution to get the bad guys, we're supposed to be better than that"..I can't find any fault with that statement, you really shouldn't trash the constitution just to get the bad guy. The second time was when there was talk of the US going into Iran and Libya and he said it was "time for the USA to be Switzerland and get the hell out of there"...again, can't find fault with that statement, between the military and the CIA we've been stirring shit all over the planet and it IS time to be Switzerland and stay the fuck out of everyone else's business.

      So while I think Beck and Alex Jones and the other "Its all a conspiracy!" nuts are just that every once in a while they actually say something that is true. I guess its like a broken clock being right twice a day, who knows. Most of the time though? Crazy as a loon.

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    7. Re:Glenn Beck is a fucking moron. by mvdwege · · Score: 3, Insightful

      As the right-wing Hate Machine spews its filth over the public spaces, it consistently maintains it's just "calling things as they are", "exercising their free speech" or "avoiding political correctness".

      But God forbid someone should call one of them names. Then suddenly out of the woodwork various arbiters of decency appear waving their fingers and going "tut-tut".

      Here's a deal for you: why don't you go fuck off?

      Mart

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    8. Re:Glenn Beck is a fucking moron. by LordLimecat · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Nothing suprises me about this. Ive been attacked by fellow republicans (who claim I must be a democrat or something-- oh no!) simply for asking for civil discussion.

      Political discussion in this country is doomed.

    9. Re:Glenn Beck is a fucking moron. by toriver · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Take over in what sense? They made emergency loans to much of the car companies that otherwise would have gone bust (leaving mostly just Ford). And mandating health insurance so that you don't have poor contagious sick people walking the streets. There is no take-over there, either. So he was still crazy.

    10. Re:Glenn Beck is a fucking moron. by jellomizer · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "In fact he even says not to believe him until you do your own research"
      Unfortunately a lot of people take this to mean what I am saying is true, and you need to prove me wrong. Then you get stuck into conspiracy logic reasoning, where lack of evidence only means the conspiracy is deeper.

      For example the Birther Movement.
      Some Guy Pull out of his ass that Obama wasn't born in the united states, because his father wasn't a native citizen.
      Demand research, so they demand a copy of the birth certificate.
      They finally get it, well it could be fake,
      They find newspaper articles, about his birth,
      They figure that it was paid to be placed in there.
      They track it down to the hospital.
      they assume the hospital was paid off...

      For some reason a half white and half black child from a modest middle class family must be groomed to be president of the United States, as a plot for the UN communist to take over the United States.

      For average vote Joe, they do not have the research skills to realize they are going down a dead end path, and will research and pull more crazy and bad sourced information.

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    11. Re:Glenn Beck is a fucking moron. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So you're saying because every once in a while Beck, in between ranting that "God will bathe this nation in blood", and charlatan-speak, says the sky is blue, it's okay to listen?

      Beck is preaching the end of the world and then selling you survival kits and gold during the breaks. He's scum.

  2. Aha! It all makes sense! by gman003 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is why Beck is so against socialized healthcare - because if we had it, he'd be institutionalized for being so completely fucking nuts.

  3. Sinister Plot Success! by Sponge+Bath · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People are talking about Glenn Beck :-P

  4. as the song goes... by wierd_w · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "Paranoia strikes deep, into your lives it will creep. It starts when you're always afraid. Step out of line, the man comes and takes you away."

    Really. The fine line between clear batshit-crazy paranoia and justifiable concern grows thinner and thinner the deeper down the "terrorists!" Rabbit hole we go. The cited song refered to the last boogeyman: "Commies!", but it fits very well, if eerily, 50 years later with "Terrorists!"

    People like Glen Beck just drink the koolaid. Rather than point and laugh about his over the top paranoia, take an honest look at how batshit we are acting in regard to "Terrorists!", where we are scared of plastic knives, exploding underwear, and flamable mouthwash to the point where we grope and tickle old women and 2 year old children as a daily occurance at our borders.

    In times like these, agencies like the CIA get ever expanding license to do stupid, batshit crazy stuff to "catch them terrorists", and "make us feel safe!" As such, things like the silly stupid of this story might not actually be as silly stupid as they seem.

    That is what is truly scary.

  5. Ad Hominem is called for in this case by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 4, Insightful

    He's not a particularly reliable source. Move along, no news here.

  6. Re:Full Audio or it didn't happen... by Microlith · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ooh, is someone upset that the GOP and its representatives (official or otherwise) would be taken for being mad?

    Glenn Beck has been known to use this device known as "sarcasm"

    Beck falls into chasm created by Poe's law.

    which tends to escape the Aspergers crowd that runs Slashdot.

    I see, people see Beck say wild shit and you accuse people here of suffering from Aspergers. Real classy one you are.

    Considering the inability of the supposed "geniuses" on this site to spot an obvious joke that Mitt Romney made last week

    Considering the man can't tell a joke for shit and the other wild-ass garbage come out of the Republican Party these days, I'm not surprised at all that people missed it.

    I'll do the politically incorrect thing and not have the Pavlovian foaming at the mouth reaction to what the ringleaders on this site want

    IT'S A CONSPIRACY! And Slashdot is in on it too! Careful, you're starting to sound like Beck as well.

  7. Re:Full Audio or it didn't happen... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The Earth is 6,000 (excuse me, 6,016) years old, creation by a deity is a better explanation than evolution by natural selection, homosexuality is a choice and a sin, and women are meant to be subservient and deliver every time they conceive. When a party already believes laughable things like that, it’s hard to tell the sarcasm from the seriousness anymore.

  8. Beck is stating the obvious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    1. the guy had all of the skills that the CIA recruits;
    2. Benghazi was where we provided Libyan groups with weapons that are now still floating around between there and the Sinai;
    3. State Department, Diplomats, their security teams, etc are always cover for the CIA, the same way other governments use their diplomatic corps to get their intelligence officers in theater;

    I'm glad to know the CIA has such good guys.

  9. Slashdot by thammoud · · Score: 5, Insightful

    New for Nerds not from Idiots. Stop this shit.

  10. Re:Full Audio or it didn't happen... by CajunArson · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Assume that Glenn Beck was 100% dead serious in his assertion:

    1. Of course he's nuts, but do you think it would be impossible for the CIA to use an online game like Eve to communicate in some circumstances? Considering the conspiracy theories that get modded +5 on this website whenever somebody accuses Bush of plotting 9/11 it is not very far-fetched. That's not to say that Eve online itself is a CIA front any more than the phone company is a CIA front, but it could still be used.

    2. The Obama administration insisted publicly and repeatedly that this attack had absolutely nothing at all to do with terrorism, but it was just some stupid Internet video that magically turned the Libyans into Kill-Bots and we need to curtail the First Amendment in the name of "tolerance" RIGHT NOW!...

        Oh... until their own intelligence analysts and even the Libyan Government bascially embarrased them into admitting that an attack that used heavy weaponry and was obviously planned well in advance to coincide with the 9/11 anniversary was actually related to real terrorists and not just a spontaneous reaction to a stupid Youtube video.

    Now here's my point: How many people on this site will insult Glenn Beck, some nut on the radio who has no real power, while giving the White House a free pass?

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  11. seriously? glenn beck? by nimbius · · Score: 5, Insightful

    when was the last time he was relevant? and with regard to his purported comment: thats his job. his job is to say, or do anything to anyone in order to garner enough attention to sell advertising slots. the formula is to find a hot-button item and exploit it. Whether he believes anything he says is irrellevant. He lost his job on Fox News because his ability to draw advertisers plummeted once americans realized the stalinist dystopia he insisted upon never arrived. Sean Hannity, Bill Oreilly, Glenn Beck, and Limbaugh are all designed and employed to keep people interacting with and talking about their respective shows. None have any expertise in anything of a technical nature, ever.

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  12. Re:Full Audio or it didn't happen... by Osgeld · · Score: 5, Insightful

    the right side of politics sure has been "funny" a lot lately

  13. Re:Full Audio or it didn't happen... by Mashiki · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Now here's my point: How many people on this site will insult Glenn Beck, some nut on the radio who has no real power, while giving the White House a free pass?

    Good point. Then again most people here are still giving the White House a free pass on Fast and Furious along with Holder and Obama and the killing of 300+ Mexicans a US border agent, a mass murder(most recently discovered and linked at a party of teenagers), or they're blaming Bush still because that's the line the WH is still trying to feed on the narrative. Even though under Bush's program their guns were tracked. Under Obama and Holder they simply let the guns walk away.

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  14. Re:Glenn Beck Actually Working Deep Undercover by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't understand the supposed video game tie-in.

    EVE Online's players tend to begin to treat it as a lifestyle and many of them develop close friendships and connections to other players and I would not be surprised in the least that someone involved that much in EVE would be chatting with gamer friends practically all the time. And VileRat was associated with GoonSwarm which was a group mainly associated with Something Awful, so its no surprise he'd be chatting with them.

    Beck just has absolutely no clue about gamers. None.

  15. Re:Full Audio or it didn't happen... by meglon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Pull your head out of your ideological ass. Beck is a fucking mental case, and anyone with two brain cells can see that. Because you're a rabid ideologue doesn't mean you get your own reality. Beck rarely uses sarcasm, he mostly uses paranoid delusions... and it takes another fucking moron to believe his crap and defend him as something other than a fucking idiot.

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  16. Re:Full Audio or it didn't happen... by meglon · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Even though under Bush's program their guns were tracked. Under Obama and Holder they simply let the guns walk away.

    Which brings us to the bigger point... people give the White House something of a pass because Obama isn't THE ONLY PERSON IN THE GOVERNMENT. He doesn't have a say in the minute details of everything... how ridiculous is it to even think that he would? But, the fascist conservatives hate Obama, so they'll lie like son of a bitches EVERY TIME something happens. They tracked the guns under Bush, they tracked the guns under Obama... fucking mental midget ideologues want to lie, however, and make asinine statements like you did.

    Quit fucking lying, and you'll get a little respect.

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  17. Re:Full Audio or it didn't happen... by Obfuscant · · Score: 1, Insightful

    One can point out that name calling in a news summary is patent flamebait without being either a supporter of or an opponent to the person being insulted. Just as one could discuss whether it is appropriate to use inflammatory hehaviour in a summary without themselves becoming insulting and assuming straw men for their own amusement and importance.

  18. Re:Full Audio or it didn't happen... by artor3 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If Obama had called it terrorism immediately, you'd be accusing him of scaremongering. No matter what he does, you'll call it the wrong thing. Why should anyone even care what you think any more? You're openly trying to turn the murder of innocent people into a politcal cudgel. Fuck you.

  19. Media Matters by Curunir_wolf · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't get why all these posts that belong on Media Matters or Crooks and Liars show up on Slashdot. Glenn Beck's an idiot and everybody's lying about the embassy attack in Libya. Yea, we get it. Take it somewhere else - this isn't "News for nerds" - it's clickbait. Take it somewhere else.

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  20. Re:Full Audio or it didn't happen... by funwithBSD · · Score: 3, Insightful

    But I do suffer from Asperger's, you insensitive clod!

    This whole Benghazi thing is driving people nuts, just like 9/11.

    They think: How does this shit happen without a devious plot by the CIA, Illuminati, or some other shadowy government operatives?

    We are unable or unwilling to accept that both happened because of shear stupidity, hubris, and incompetence. (and not necessarily in that order)

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  21. Re:Full Audio or it didn't happen... by funwithBSD · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Here is the problem you seem to not grasp:

    Holder fucked up
    Obama appointed Holder.
    Holder fucks up, then Obama is responsible.

    It has worked that way every time I fucked up as a manager, I got grilled by the higher ups why my people fucked up. I was responsible for them, and "gee I didn't know" was not fucking good enough.

    Sure as fuck is not good enough for "The smartest man in the room".

    Especially when he hires fucking Holder, who has admitted he fucking participated in the take-over of the Columbia University ROTC lounge in an effort to rename it after Malcolm X, and expect him to have any Fucking respect for the fucking rule of law.

    http://www.gq.com/news-politics/politics/201012/eric-holder-attorney-general-rahm-emanuel-white-house-elections?printable=true

    P.S. I hope all the extra "fuckings" made it easier for you to follow the argument.

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  22. So that's your attempt at spin... by publiclurker · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Whenever someone calls you out on your BS claim that it's either humor or sarcasm. too bad the grownups aren't dense enough to believe you.

  23. Re:Full Audio or it didn't happen... by CajunArson · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Uh.. as many people on Slashdot point out all the time, *LOTS* of people play online games. So what do you do if you are a spy and want to communicate without raising suspicion... do what *LOTS* of other people do and blend in.

    James Bond is not a real spy, Joe Blow, the average guy who you pass on the street without even noticing is what a real spy looks like. If it is expected that a white guy in his 20s - 30s and who is kind of nerdy will play video games, then that is an excellent thing for an operative to do so that he blends in with every expected stereotype.

      I'm not saying that this particular guy was doing it, but for you to call it ridiculous is patently silly... especially given the credulity of people on this website to every single conspiracy theory that supports the pet-prejudices that are promoted around here.

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  24. Re:"right-wing" by Un+pobre+guey · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The left wing is almost entirely absent from mainstream US politics. There's only Center Right, and Extreme Right. There is no Left in the discussion.

  25. Re:Full Audio or it didn't happen... by ceoyoyo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Wait, your position is that Beck has a radio show that features him saying things in jest, for entertainment, and that he shouldn't be taken seriously, but that it's flamebait to call him a clown?

  26. Re:Full Audio or it didn't happen... by fm6 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    *LOTS* of people play online games

    Lots of people don't play MMORPGs that suck up half their lives. What kind of cover story includes that much time spent on a collective fantasy? Not one that includes actual time spent gathering intelligence.

    You mention that James Bond is fiction. That's very true. Real secret agents don't have elaborate schemes for doing ordinary things, like talking to people.

  27. Biased a bit? by BorgAssimilator · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...American right-wing radio and TV clown Glenn Beck...

    Now, I'm not commenting on whether he's right or wrong, but this in an accepted summary? Seems a bit much even by Slashdot standards.

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    1. Re:Biased a bit? by artor3 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It's actually quite nice to see a spade called a spade, instead of the typical media "all opinions are equally valid" bullshit.

  28. Re:Old. by artor3 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Blah blah blah. No president does anything single-handedly. Lincoln didn't tear through the Confederacy like an action hero. FDR didn't paradrop into Nazi Germany. Obama didn't pull the literal trigger on Osama. But it was his decision to refocus efforts on finding OBL, it was his decision to go with troops on the ground rather than an airstrike, it was his decision to keep the Pakistanis out of the loop. All of those turned out to be the right choices, and Obama deserves credit for that.

    All you Republicans claiming the credit should go exclusively to the military, ask yourself this: If the mission had ended with a dozen dead SEALs instead of a dead terrorist, would you be placing the blame solely on the military?