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Glenn Beck Reports CIA Plot Between Embassy Killing and Something Awful
An anonymous reader writes "Here's one that even The Onion would reject as too blatantly ridiculous: American right-wing radio and TV clown Glenn Beck believes that Sean Smith aka Vile Rat, the EVE Online diplomat who was killed earlier this month during the attack on the US embassy in Benghazi, was actually a CIA agent, relaying communications to his fellow undercover agents at Something Awful."
I don't believe anything that guy says. He is only after ratings, and by extension, money.
decode that glenn beck.
This was hypothesized on the No Agenda Show podcast weeks ago.
And more importantly, it happened because Beck couldn't believe that the administration would be so fucking stupid as to not provide security in Benghazi after the attacks in June and the Brits had specifically pulled their consulate back to Tripoli because they thought the security situation, even with upgraded security, was too tenuous. So he cast around for any possible theory and his fevered mind came up with that.
This is why Beck is so against socialized healthcare - because if we had it, he'd be institutionalized for being so completely fucking nuts.
Would the Onion reject it? Or would they pay Glenn Beck to work deep undercover on the cutting edge of embedded satirical news radio?
It's a pretty good cover.
Glenn Beck has been known to use this device known as "sarcasm" which tends to escape the Aspergers crowd that runs Slashdot. He might have been serious or he could totally have been joking and the quote in the article is useless for proving either one.
Considering the inability of the supposed "geniuses" on this site to spot an obvious joke that Mitt Romney made last week, I'll do the politically incorrect thing and not have the Pavlovian foaming at the mouth reaction to what the ringleaders on this site want, but instead rely on these things called "facts" before making a judgment.
AntiFA: An abbreviation for Anti First Amendment.
People are talking about Glenn Beck :-P
"Paranoia strikes deep, into your lives it will creep. It starts when you're always afraid. Step out of line, the man comes and takes you away."
Really. The fine line between clear batshit-crazy paranoia and justifiable concern grows thinner and thinner the deeper down the "terrorists!" Rabbit hole we go. The cited song refered to the last boogeyman: "Commies!", but it fits very well, if eerily, 50 years later with "Terrorists!"
People like Glen Beck just drink the koolaid. Rather than point and laugh about his over the top paranoia, take an honest look at how batshit we are acting in regard to "Terrorists!", where we are scared of plastic knives, exploding underwear, and flamable mouthwash to the point where we grope and tickle old women and 2 year old children as a daily occurance at our borders.
In times like these, agencies like the CIA get ever expanding license to do stupid, batshit crazy stuff to "catch them terrorists", and "make us feel safe!" As such, things like the silly stupid of this story might not actually be as silly stupid as they seem.
That is what is truly scary.
He's not a particularly reliable source. Move along, no news here.
Bruce Perens.
WTF is this doing on Slashdot? Yea, it's two days until the "debate" and the libs running this site need to post trash. But this is too obvious.
1. the guy had all of the skills that the CIA recruits;
2. Benghazi was where we provided Libyan groups with weapons that are now still floating around between there and the Sinai;
3. State Department, Diplomats, their security teams, etc are always cover for the CIA, the same way other governments use their diplomatic corps to get their intelligence officers in theater;
I'm glad to know the CIA has such good guys.
If you read the article, you'll find that Beck didn't say that "Vile Rat"'s message to SA was to CIA operatives who work at SA. He suggests that the comment was to CIA through the SA forum. I don't know if that's true, but it's not unheard of to send a coded message through a public forum.
New for Nerds not from Idiots. Stop this shit.
With this much derision in the story, there is obviously something to the claim....
That's how it works people...you don't come out swinging, unless you are trying to defend something.
when was the last time he was relevant? and with regard to his purported comment: thats his job. his job is to say, or do anything to anyone in order to garner enough attention to sell advertising slots. the formula is to find a hot-button item and exploit it. Whether he believes anything he says is irrellevant. He lost his job on Fox News because his ability to draw advertisers plummeted once americans realized the stalinist dystopia he insisted upon never arrived. Sean Hannity, Bill Oreilly, Glenn Beck, and Limbaugh are all designed and employed to keep people interacting with and talking about their respective shows. None have any expertise in anything of a technical nature, ever.
Good people go to bed earlier.
Why would the CIA, with a $50 billion budget, use public forums rather than some sort of secure satellite link or a VPN?
...that the Masons are behind it all. So what? Why are the rantings of a loon news for nerds? Or anyone else?
Warning: this article may contain humor, sarcasm, parody, and perhaps even irony. Read at your own risk.
Did the internet make you stupid?
Attack its weak point for massive damage!
Let's not pretend Beck's critics are left-wing. They may be predominantly Democrats (and other anti-TeaParty people) and disagree on how the power of the state should be applied, but they are as supportive as any of giving the state that power.
your thin skin doesn't make me a troll
Really? Is this what Slashdot has become? Posting Glenn Beck rants?
Vilerat was posting those comments on an IRC channel for his gaming clan, not on SomethingAwful. Yes, Beck has it wrong too by calling it a "gaming website" when it's actually an IRC channel.
SomethingAwful is mentioned separately in the story. Vilerat was a mod there.
...yet can't sell ads? Right.
If you have ever listened to his show, they are sarcastic all the time. But then again, I can listen to political shows without the predetermined bias and make judgements on facts.
I don't get why all these posts that belong on Media Matters or Crooks and Liars show up on Slashdot. Glenn Beck's an idiot and everybody's lying about the embassy attack in Libya. Yea, we get it. Take it somewhere else - this isn't "News for nerds" - it's clickbait. Take it somewhere else.
"Somebody has to do something. It's just incredibly pathetic it has to be us."
--- Jerry Garcia
Whenever someone calls you out on your BS claim that it's either humor or sarcasm. too bad the grownups aren't dense enough to believe you.
His ratings? Who knows, but that's all that matters in this business. This little story can only help in that department.
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
which is sadder. That Beck is making wild theories about the attack on our consulate or that all the other so called main stream media aren't asking questions about how and why 4 (5 with Camp Leatherneck) were murdered?
I live next to the Air Forces Special Operations Squadron and I can tell you there are a bunch of pissed off guys there. $60 billion for intelligence and a government that seems to want to pretend nothing wrong is making them wonder why they are risking their lives
Its not Paranoia if they really _ARE_ after you...
"Consider how lucky you are that life has been good to you so far. Alternatively, if life hasn't been good to you so far
I think this makes a very strong case for universal health care. In an ideal world, Glenn Beck would have access to the medical care he so obviously needs.
So, if all you had was a smart phone, what'd be the easiest way to establish covert communication? Hide in plain sight, of course.
Your eloquently supported position convinced me. After all, what Beck says is nearly as crazy as calling a person an "EVE Online diplomat". And to suggest that the CIA would do anything wrong is just insane.
I'm an American. I love this country and the freedoms that we used to have.
Although I have not heard him talk on the radio about this topic, I have been listening to Beck on the radio for the past few years.
What people who only tune in to when he says something crazy miss is that more than half of the show is him and two friends bullshitting about random stuff. I am not defending the man necessarily, I disagree with him on a lot of things, but more than anything else he is pure entertainment. If you actually listened to his show rather than judge based off of a snip-it, you would find that it is probably less serious than Coast to Coast.
Instead of reading a slashdot post about an article talking about an article made by somebody (and using an extremely slanted perspective), perhaps go read what Glen Beck said? Those people who just claim Glen Beck is an idiot obviously don't ever actually listen to or read what he talks about. Yes, he's conservative. No, he is not a raving lunatic. If anything, the raving lunatics are the stream of posted comments I have seen on this site. Get your heads out people, the whole concept of "open minded" is to look at both sides of the argument, draw your own conclusions, not to just regurgitate your own sides views in vitriol at the other side.
Frankly, if you go read the original statements (not the linked article, the ACTUAL discussion from Glen Beck, in its full context), it was not outlined as ridiculously as it is proposed.
Does the CIA use common general-purpose websites for dead drops? I certainally hope so! Based on how dead drops have worked in the past, it only makes sense to extend the concept to the internet. Thinks of the savings!
So all Glen is doing is connecting a few dots, which were brought to his attention by some analysts, and then he says that it is an interesting coincidence. And suddenly he's lamblasted for it by "open minded" liberal dogs? Seriously people.
As a former goon, and former goonfleet pilot I can say how tightknit that
/. effect with malice, e.g. hitting the reload button on a site you didn't like until the pipes clogged, at the same time as every other goon. Back in the day, it was very feasible to clog down the low-rent juggalo, furry, pedo, and other stupid sites somethingawful would target. They also asked eachother for advice. traded stories, made confessions, trolled eachother. There was "goon justice", when goons fucked up a pedophile, scammer, spammer, or other internet lowlife. The also did photoshop contests, made memes, and trolled eachother really hard.
1. something awful is
2. goonfleet in particular was.
I am still in shock and disbelief that both get into the news, and vile rat will be deeply missed.
Some back story, before there was 4chan, there was something awful. Goons used to do pranks and raids (far more mild that what 4chan/anonymous eventually became). Goons became named "Goons" because they were Lowtax's "goons" who'd invade forums and crash websites. But there were no LOIC, or any other tools. it was just using the
There were also pranks, such as habo hotel, and the like.
The Forums "Goons" had a general dislike for the rest of the internet, and would play internet games with other goons, because they disliked the general population of gamers at the time. Goonfleet stuck out because of how harsh the game was, and how goons when from harrassing people in game, to becoming a serious angry force hell bent on serious stellar conquest. EVE is a game where everyone is a ruthless bastard hell bent on conquest, and people fucked with the goons, they pushed back harder. They kept to themselves and disliked outsiders, and took a dim view on the status quo of the EVE eliete(poopsocking pubbies). Goons made a break for power in 2006 and I am proud to say I was there. Other alliances had players with far more skill points(like level), who where more powerful, but goons had numbers, excellent organization, and teamwork. There was a profound sense of "goon nationalism" in the game that we were out to stake our claim and challenge the status quo. leaders had charisma, and leadership skills, but not as much in game skill points. We bucked the pecking order in favor of our own. We let anyone from Something Awful in, while rejecting the most seasoned non-goon EVE players.
The world hated us, but as goons we reveled in their hatred, and it made us closer, stronger, more determined. We had the numbers and were far far far more ruthless than the worst the game had to offer. EVE is not just played online, its played over instanat message, cell phones, text messages, and even in the real world. When we allied with the Russians, we sent a real life delegation to Russia to visit them in person, and they sent one to NY, to shore up in game ties.
We upset some major long standing alliances who had publicly gone on EVE TV to bash us.(Lokta Voltera, Vertas Imortalis) to bash us and our antics. We went on to terminate them with prejudice.
EVE got serious just about the same time goons were almost at the height of their in game power.
Somewhere around 2005, when the internet started getting really "serious" and pranks and raids started to have legal conotations, site founder, lowtax put a halt to raids and pranks. The sense of community remained. But just a reminder before "Anonymous" was "Leigon", we were "40 thousand screaming goons"
RIP VIle Rat. Here is a speech remedial made on teamspeak before the epic battle of XZH-, of which I was a defender. I recorded this as I listened to.
http://www.favupload.com/audio/6704/
...American right-wing radio and TV clown Glenn Beck...
Now, I'm not commenting on whether he's right or wrong, but this in an accepted summary? Seems a bit much even by Slashdot standards.
"Intelligence has nothing to do with politics!"
-Londo Mollari
An eve online dude can work for the CIA too.
The Guy's a real-life troll, except as well as getting his excitement from stirring people up, he gets market share and money.
Don't feed him with this attention except where there is a real chance of getting him sued or imprisoned.
...that Something Awful *isn't* part of a CIA conspiracy? These allegations need to be investigated further.
This guy obviously can't find his own news or his writers are just late to the party, considering this was discussed and established on No Agenda weeks ago.
If this were true wouldn't Glenn Beck be a traitor? If so, I think we should hang him immediately.
Technically, the guy never specifically denied being a CIA agent. Why wouldn't he do that? Obviously because he's hiding something.
On to other matters. That little frosted guy on the Mini-Wheats box still hasn't made any official comment on his involvement with the CIA and their HAARP death ray experiments. What's he trying to hide?
Hey, at least Beck pushes gold instead of bitcoin.
You say that like it's a good thing.
Do we really want something as important as the gold market perturbed by the cumulative effect of Beck and other gold bugs like him?
I say it's better for society if fringe people come up with some crazy "safe haven money store" that the rest of us have no use for, so we won't have to pay inflated prices for useful money like gold, bitcoin, or major stable nation-backed currencies.
Talk about batshit crazy... The irony of watching the foaming at the mouth /. mob talk about the right wing as if they had a third eyeball coming out their ear is comic. There is batshit crazy all over the place, not the least of which is the 'coombyah', liberal, 'stick it to the man' crowd who is either ignorant (which can't be excused, or stupid which can be excused).
I agree its all over the place, but seriously, do everyone a favor, take the time, look at the issues, think about them, consider all the angles, look at the facts, and then and only then start to formuate your OWN opinion, not just spout off what your favorite talking head has to say.
If someone can't substantiate their own beliefs by doing the homework and analysis the info for themselves, then they don't have a belief, they are called sheeple.
He ripped that off from Adam Curry who said this exact thing two weeks ago on No Agenda
But Ian Fleming was.
So clearly to the genius's here no 'spy' would ever try to blend in while trying to cover for his boss (obama) and then end up dead.
He worked in the embassy. Of course he was a CIA asset. (They call them assets. The word agent has specific legal connotations. It's why special agents aren't called agents either. They're called special operators.)
Say what you will about Glenn Beck, but even a stopped clock is right twice a day.
This guy would be Jimmy Hoffa of TV assholes.
In politics sound minds may differ. There are appropriate forums for such discussions. This is not one such.
I thought (most) of you were supposed to be smart. Yet, just the dropping of Beck's name has set in motion a world class leftist panty-bunch on slashdot. There's insults at Bush, insults at Glenn, blah blah blah. 99% of the people criticizing him have obviously never seen him. And virtually no one is discussing his theory; which I think is actually compelling. You can't filter information based on source - only on veracity. I mean hell, even The Enquirer got the John Edwards story right, while Newsweek and WaPO were spiking it. Telling us how stupid you think Beck is, does not make you look any smarter.
But if you think anyone who works at an embassy isn't a spy then you are the Moron
Build a Man a Fire, and He'll Be Warm for a Day. Set a Man on Fire, and He'll Be Warm for the Rest of His Life.
It's almost certain VR was an intelligence agent. A large number of those working at foreign embassies are actually CIA officers. Primary function of an Embassy is to collect intelligence in the host country and report it back to US govt agencies. I don't see how he could not be an agent. He is former military, trained in DC/Virginia area, served in Iraq, South Africa, and other places. His mother stated she never knew what he really did, and that if she asked he might joke " i would have to kill you" so she pretty much assumed it was classified and didn't inquire. She didn't even know that he had gone to Libya. So, his work was without question sensitive. Whether Something Awful and EVE online are some type of CIA fronts isn't likely. However, it is possible VR did use the platform for communicating to assets/other intelligence officials. Not for that purpose, but because it's something he already does a lot and enjoys, AND same time does provide excellent cover for occasionally communicating with intelligence assets. I don't see what the outrage is. I guess because it's coming from GB. Who has totally shattered his credibility as he has become an agitator. I didn't even hear what he said, just read about it. Not worth even listening, Years ago, Beck was appeared to be a thoughtful, sensitive, rational pundit. But he sold out to become something just because there is an audience for it. Look at Rush, or that blonde chick author- total jokes. They are just riling up the crowd and pushing something the extreme wants. Same with some liberals, like Olberman who went from ESPN to crying about Bush everyday. These people don't represent american opinion, they just cater to extremes who are a slim minority. Yet it divides our country and dialogue. Nobody wants to discuss intelligent, balanced analysis.
> homosexuality is a choice
I have no choice over who I have sex with. It just sort of happens for no reason.
> women are meant to ... deliver every time they conceive
It's okay to kill another of your own species, so long as they're young, ugly or stupid enough.
Seriously, Bin Ladin worked for the CIA.
Stupid politicians work for CIA.
CNN has fake reporters making fake stories, YES they got caught, idiots.
Wakeup dumb stupid americans, working for the CIA is nothing special, 100000000000s work for them.
Again, Dumb asses (except the 1% linux users).
Then again, most wouldnt know google was 'funded' a bit by CIA ppl.
Oh my god, our saviour has mirrored 'backups' and Langley.
Liberty freedom are no1, not dicks in suits.
RIchard Stallman was been on Alex Jones a few times.
And if Alex Jones speaks to a madam that says live on radio, "If I am dead next month and the FBI claim its suicide, the FBI killed me"
And yes, the NY madam was killed.
If Alex says, the president has executive orders to rape and fuck u in the ass, its true, he can do that. All executive orders are on .gov websites.
TSA evil? gee, yes he points out that many are crims with pedo histories or theft histories.
Yes he might be over emotional, but yeah lets see if your boring ass voice and boring show gets more than 7 viewers on youtube.
Alex intent isnt to fake shit, else he wouldnt last.
Go listen to him. Or are you scared the TSA and DHS will arrest you ? hahaa
Liberty freedom are no1, not dicks in suits.
Slashdot, of course, is the designated contact point for the NSA.
BTW, Agent Smith, please don't forget to adjust the sarcasm filter on Echelon. It keeps overloading.
Dude, Toyota makes cars IN AMERICA, cheaper than GM fat fucks on high wages, higher than computer programmers. General Morons.
GM should go back to building Soviet tanks for USSR, oh yeah, you heard it, GM secretly made cars in USSR.
Liberty freedom are no1, not dicks in suits.
> if you can't do obviously better then you are in trouble.
I doubt there's anyone on all of Slashdot who can do as much or as often as those bonobos. Many here have never done anyone at all.
All pollies are hypocrits that only want self fame, NEVER ULTIMATE GOODNESS FOR SOCIETY.
Oh btw, creationism doesnt exist, and your god is an alien from Prometheos, who came from B Reti.
And and that funny prophet that cannot be drawn doesnt exist either.
Liberty freedom are no1, not dicks in suits.
An ambassador is already an agent of the President... by definition. That's just the job. Even if he were "taking orders from CIA", that both still have the same boss -- POTUS. I call bull shit on the whole story. Sounds like an attempt to attribute a stupid right wing conspiracy in order to divert attention from the actual screw of the administration (failure to protect a US embassy and the subsequent attempt at covering up that failure by blaming attacks on an unrelated movie).
Any guest worker system is indistinguishable from indentured servitude.
I know there is a general slashdot trend of modding comments "insightful" in order to give positive karma to humorous posts, as opposed to using the "funny" mod, but in this case you really should stick with the "funny" option as modding comments which ride the fine borderline between hilarious satire and psychotic denial of reality is thin and you wouldn't want to confuse anybody.
Not to support Glenn in any way, but the link between CIA stations and the Embassies they are located in is well know.
The CIA station chief would likely be under the Embassador, however.
Shocking allegations have come to light that Glenn Beck is responsible for the rape and murder of a girl in 1990. Are these allegations true? Is Beck guilty? Various websites are offering conflicting points of view. Some claim it is a hoax. Many are suspicious because Beck has remained silent on the matter. If the story isn't true, why won't Glenn Beck deny that he raped and murdered a young girl in 1990?
The current Slashdot readers are like VB programmers. They think they are technical ...just a bunch of dumb asses!! Slashdot use to be such a great technical website. Now it's just full of VB programmers!!
Wow /. is so down the tubes now you are allowing someone to just post the entire first paragraph of the story as your summary?
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And presidents don't ship thousands of assult rifles to Mexican drug lords who use them to kill hundreds of Mexicans.
that's a start...
hey, at least he's trying.
There have been cases where large scale drug rings have used MMO's for communication in the past, its not that far fetched.
Ohhhh, that's why Walter keeps Jesse around.
that, and killing people.
the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
No president does anything single-handedly? How about getting us INTO a war that never ever should have happened? Now, you could argue that it wasn't just GWB who did it, he had all his advisors, etc. But he was the guy. He made the call. He had no evidence of weapons, anything close to it has been falsified, and it had nothing to do with his "war on terror". There has never ever been any reasonable explanation for invading and overthrowing the government of a sovereign nation.
Obama may not have been able to live up to his promises, and he hasn't fixed everything he inherited. He inherited a deficet that GWB built, and made it even bigger. He made some promises he didn't keep. But here's the thing - his mistakes had the INTENT to fix things, and didn't cost thousands of lives. THAT is the difference between Obama and his predecessor.
My beliefs do not require that you agree with them.
Poke fun at Glenn Beck all you want. But if you actually do some intelligent fact checking on your own, you will find that he is rarely if ever wrong. And when he is, he makes sure to make a public announcement and apology. He is not after ratings. He is after the truth because he, like many level-headed conservatives are fed up with the lying main stream propagandists...er...I mean media.
Forget Glenn Beck or the other details. The basic accusation is either someone who is an enemy of the USA has infiltrated the CIA, or someone who already worked for the CIA has turned against their country. In other words a double agent. Why is it so hard too believe that? It's not like this type of thing is unheard of.
Isn't this the same freak that once was on CNN? Thought he passed on or something - wouldn't even want to listen to the opinion-only, conspiracy-theorist/liar if you paid me. Folks like this thrive on fear and falsity - hoping someone will listen or tune in.
Glenn and Rush are hopefully married on an island in Fiji somewhere
Hey man, nice troll.
Before you form a (very obviously) uninformed opinion, perhaps you should try to listed for two weeks straight.
Why don't you try to read Das Kapital for two weeks straight? It's not enough time to form a reasoned opinion, one only needs an hour or so for that. But it is enough time to warp your sense of reality.
But Das Kapital actually makes sense. At least the beginning part about capitalism: that it needs constant growth and new markets and will eventually lead to globalization. Pretty good analysis for the 1800s.
And if you gave just that excerpt to people, they certainly wouldn't guess that they're reading old Charlie Marx. Ronald Reagan perhaps, except that it is too well written.
I thought I read somewhere that Glenn Beck is a rapist. That Glenn Beck raped someone back in the 1980s. Am I mistaken in remembering that Glenn beck raped someone in the 1980s? I could have sworn I read somewhere that Glenn Beck was a rapist. I don't really care for his show, and he seems to have a lot of crackpot ideas. Still, I don;t think they'd give him his own radio show if Glenn Beck was a rapist. I mean, if Glenn Beck raped someone in the 1980s, would Fox News give him a TV show? I don't believe Fox News supports rapists.
I've built up so much character I have an alter-ego
Well, there DEFINITELY is some form of coverup here, because the US HAS NO EMBASSY IN BENGAZI. The only Embassy or Consulate the US has in Libya is in Tripoli. http://libya.usembassy.gov/ The Government even stated that they knew this attack had NOTHING to do with any YouTube Video, but it was "blowback" for US Drone Strikes, and was carried out by Al-Qaeda (actually an affiliate group called Ansar al-Sharia). http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2012/09/28/abc-reports-obama-administration-knew-terrorists-carried-out-libya-at So it sounds like Beck is speaking more truth than any other news/media company. Except, of course, for Ben Swann: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nPf0waX2HI
Is it really unbelievable that the diplomat was a CIA agent??
It actually makes perfect sense -- look where he was stationed!
Would you not want a CIA agent over there?
In fact, it doesn't matter if he was CIA per se -- it is not unreasonable that he was gathering intelligence for the US.
In fact, it is unreasonable to think that he wasn't..