World of Warcraft Character Becomes Campaign Issue

I bet.. by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-04 11:28 · Score: 5, Insightful

I bet she just gained a shit ton of voters in the 18-30 range.

Re:I bet.. by 2.7182 · 2012-10-04 11:30 · Score: 5, Funny

I'd rather vote for an orc assassination rogue than a democrat or republican.
Re:I bet.. by flyingsquid · 2012-10-04 11:46 · Score: 5, Funny

It doesn't matter whether you vote for the Horde or the Alliance. It's not a real choice because ultimately both of them are owned by the moneyed interests of the guild banks and the vendors, and will do anything for a few gold pieces and some high-level items. Until we break free of this two-faction system there will never be any change in Azeroth.
Re:I bet.. by WillAffleckUW · 2012-10-04 11:49 · Score: 2

See, this is why you should join Tech Savvy At Risk Youth (TSARY) guild.
We work for nobody.
Well, except for the dragons.

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Re:I bet.. by Narcocide · 2012-10-04 11:49 · Score: 5, Funny

STFU, Panda coward!
Re:I bet.. by Culture20 · 2012-10-04 11:56 · Score: 4, Funny

Well, I for one am voting for a third party Panda Bear.
Re:I bet.. by drkim · 2012-10-04 12:44 · Score: 5, Insightful

Her comeback to this should be, "I KNOW the difference between fantasy and reality. Apparently, my opponent does not."
Re:I bet.. by flyingsquid · 2012-10-04 14:14 · Score: 5, Funny

I would suggest voting Libertarian, but Azeroth is already a Libertarian paradise: no taxes, neither the Alliance nor the Horde maintain a police force, fire department, or public library system; there's minimal public investment in infrastructure like roads (in fact virtually no government to speak of), government does nothing as demons and undead stalk the land (I don't know what the official Libertarian position on a plague of the undead is, but I assume Ron Paul would argue that this should be left up to the private sector). Plus, everyone's on the gold standard!
Re:I bet.. by Gadget_Guy · 2012-10-04 14:28 · Score: 2

What I do is open the message that I want to mod in a new window and mod it there. That way I know that I am modding the message that I want to mod, and that I will not accidentally change the mod with the mouse wheel. I can also see if anyone else has modded the message since I first loaded the page.
I guess it is like previewing the mods in reverse.
Re:I bet.. by chebucto · 2012-10-04 14:37 · Score: 2

The attack assumes the fact that the game is a fantasy world. The substance of the attack is that she spends too much time in the fantasy world.
If she says anything it should be to laugh along with it (haha, maybe I do spend a bit too much time with that game, we all have our foibles), or at most say something along the lines of "it's a private matter that has not and will not affect my job performance."

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Re:I bet.. by jd2112 · 2012-10-04 15:06 · Score: 3, Funny

Her comeback to this should be, "I KNOW the difference between fantasy and reality. Apparently, my opponent does not."
Knowing the difference between fantasy and reality could be a handicap in the world of politics.

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Re:I bet.. by Doc+Ruby · 2012-10-04 15:18 · Score: 5, Insightful

Yes, Libertarianism is an excellent way to run an imaginary world. The real world requires compromise with reality. Like the people forming governments to protect themselves from each other. Especially from bands of marauding warlords.

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Re:I bet.. by duk242 · 2012-10-04 15:21 · Score: 2

I think the attack is more "SHE KILLS THINGS IN A FANTASY WORLD, WOULD YOU VOTE FOR A MURDERER?" which is why it's such a stupid attack. I don't think their attack would have as much substance if she was a Night Elf Healing Priest....
Re:I bet.. by Z34107 · 2012-10-04 15:49 · Score: 3, Informative

You may be surprised to learn that the Libertarian party agrees with you 100%.

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Re:I bet.. by Kharny · 2012-10-04 16:26 · Score: 2

if it's lordaeron, you can keep it, i'm not into necrophilia.

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Re:I bet.. by bhlowe · 2012-10-04 16:33 · Score: 2

I know a few people who are addicted to that game, play it at work and too much at home. Never played it myself.. How many hours does it take to become a level 85 orc assassin rogue? The other question is, how many hours a day playing RPG games is is too many for a busy politician who I'll presume has a family...
Re:I bet.. by Dunbal · 2012-10-04 17:04 · Score: 3, Insightful

I'm in the fortunate position of not having to work for someone else. However if my employer thinks I just disappear at 5pm and magically re-appear at 9am, and during this down-time I spend all night thinking of better ways to do my job, well, s/he can go fuck her/himself. There's nothing wrong with having hobbies.

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Re:I bet.. by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-04 17:09 · Score: 3, Insightful

Via quests, I was paid by the leaders or governing bodies to instill discipline workers, to catch thieves, kill murders, and quite frequently to steal supplies, even from commoners on my own side. Considering every adventurer wandering through the town gets offered that too, that sounds like a police force and tax system. They even have this socialist welfare system where they basically pay to walk five feet and talk to someone else. Doesn't sound very Libertarian to me, just a lot less bureaucracy and organization.
Re:I bet.. by Zelucifer · 2012-10-04 17:31 · Score: 3, Interesting

Just level 85? At this point 100 hour, potentially 75. No way of knowing how many years that was spread throughout, as the game has been out for 6+ years now.

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Re:I bet.. by Anubis+IV · 2012-10-04 18:42 · Score: 5, Informative

No taxes? Last time I visited Azeroth (admittedly, a few years ago), they imposed a levy on every transaction via the (government-owned and monopolized) auction house, and because my work (raiding) provided benefits, the government effectively forced me to share my hard-earned wealth with the lower and middle-classes of Azeroth. They didn't call it "taxes" in that case, however. Instead, they called it things like mandatory "repair bills" and "reagent costs" that were the result of them working in collusion with private sector members who got kickbacks like prime real estate in capital cities. And that's hardly the least of their sins.
Rather than leaving the private sector alone to manage itself, as they should, they went on that "Burning Crusade" reform campaign while I was visiting, during which they imposed stricter limits on the number of people allowed to work on a job at any given time. That, in turn, forced my company to eliminate 15 paid positions on their raid team, leaving me destitute and begging for scraps.
And no police? As if! Not only do they have police (who they refer to as "guards", for some strange reason), but the police habitually discriminate against foreigners, even going so far as to physically assault them for doing nothing more than being in the vicinity of a city. I can't tell you how many times I invited friends to visit me, only to have the guards insist that my friend was most unwelcome.
The public transportation system is a hodge-podge as well. The privatized zeppelin transportation seemed to be doing fine, but the publicly-funded tram system was regularly plagued by...odd problems.
Re:I bet.. by Vintermann · 2012-10-04 19:24 · Score: 2

there's minimal public investment in infrastructure like roads
Yeah, but I hear there's a thriving shipment industry very efficient at delivering packages and gathering various goods.

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Re:I bet.. by Krneki · 2012-10-04 19:24 · Score: 4, Insightful

WoW is not Liberal, it's run by totalitarians (moderators) who will strip you from every item and kill you (ban) if you don't play by their rules, without a trial.

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Re:I bet.. by Doc+Ruby · 2012-10-04 23:26 · Score: 2

That sounds just like the Republican totalitarians who will strip your property and kill you without trial if you don't play by their rules, who created and run front "libertarian" groups like the Tea Party.

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Re:I bet.. by jgtg32a · 2012-10-05 00:07 · Score: 2

If you are a guild leader, you should absolutely put it down. The amount of BS and drama you have to deal with is far less than you will ever have to deal with in an actual professional environment.
Re:I bet.. by drsquare · 2012-10-05 00:23 · Score: 4, Insightful

Azeroth is actually communist, as all workers have free access to the means of production (anvils, forges), as well as natural resources (fishing pools, herbs). If Azeroth were libertarian, you'd have to pay a private owner for access to his copper nodes.
Re:I bet.. by snemarch · 2012-10-05 02:05 · Score: 2

Who would vote for a nub with ilvl 345? ;p

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Re:I bet.. by NeutronCowboy · 2012-10-05 03:00 · Score: 3, Informative

Funny. And, living on a PvP server, I am pretty sure that the results are very similar to what you would get in a libertarian world: don't venture outside unless you have a max-level PvP-geared killer on call (whether via an Alt or a guildie), gathering materials frequently involves killing off the competition, and then guarding the spawn points with your friends, your own city gets raided for shits and giggles, at which point everyone who isn't a max-level character can just log off or hide somewhere in the lesser-traveled regions, etc.
Then again, being fully-geared, fully-leveled is kinda fun when you run into some lower levels. Unless, of course, they call in their guild, and proceed to corpse camp you.
Yay libertarian paradise!

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Re:I bet.. by sheehaje · 2012-10-05 03:17 · Score: 2

Why just 18-30? I'm 40 and grew up in the 80's --- pretty much when home gaming started. I don't have the time to play like I used to, but I still play once in a while, and have been involved in a few MMORPG's (EVE Online, WoW, LotRO). I tend to play more games with a pause button, or family oriented games now, but I understand the line between gaming and real life. Not that I'm running for office, but I have no problem with the fact that someone that is plays games. There are plenty of people who work at high levels yet still find time for recreation. In fact, I'm willing to bet most people working at high levels need to find some sort of recreation, whether it be Golf or WoW, people need stress relief.
My mother is 75 and still plays super Mario Brothers. Before computer games, people played plenty of board, card and dice games. I understand they are going after this person based on what they are in the game as much as the fact that she plays it, but I know for a fact (based on my own experience) that what you do in a game does not reflect how you handle real life situations. At least for people considered normal, it shouldn't.
Re:I bet.. by operagost · 2012-10-05 03:18 · Score: 2

Really? Democrats want to shrink the size of the federal government, and return more power to the people and the states? Democrats claim that giving more power to the states and people will result in segregation and anarchy. Democrats want to keep taxes low? How, when they want to increase the size of entitlement programs?

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Re:I bet.. by Kelerei · 2012-10-05 03:31 · Score: 3, Insightful

I can't imagine hiring someone dumb enough to list WOW on a resume. (Hint: employers want to hire people who want to WORK.)
Coming from the perspective of an officer of a large guild and raid leader, I can. This is going to come across as a personal anecdote, but what the heck.
Let's take your average raid team. This is a group of folks playing different classes, different specs, having different roles, playing the game their own way. I have to bring them all together and co-ordinate their efforts in order to defeat the raid encounters. For all of us, that's some serious teamwork right there. For me, it's a test of my own leadership abilities: giving the correct strategy to defeat the encounters, being able to identify any problems (such as "OK, we hit enrage on Zon'ozz because ranged was standing too far away from the boss, and the ping-pong ball was taking too long to travel. If you guys stand closer, that may buy us the time we need" -- and next pull, they did that and we got our first heroic kill), and having the ability to see the bigger picture. (In my case, being INTJ helps... :)
Now, these are all skills that one could bring into the workplace, and indeed into real life. Sadly, the masses out there think that gaming is a real waste of time, induces psychopathic tendencies in people -- we see this brought up all the time whenever some random kid goes on the rampage and shoots/blows up a whole lot of people. And this isn't restricted to World of Warcraft only; we've seen Doom blamed for Columbine, we've seen Call of Duty shouldering blame for last year's Norway attacks (Breivik did admit to use the game as "target-simulation", but here I'd argue that if he were to do that, there's a more fundamental psychiatric issue in there)... it's a rather lengthy list. What a lot of people don't realise is the positive effects that gaming could have. Member of a raid team? The guy knows the importance and value of teamwork. Raid/guild leader? He knows how to lead, and the burden of doing so. (In my case, being unexpectedly thrust into the raid leader role after the established guard suddenly quit the game in favour of SW:TOR has, over the last few months, taught me that I have leadership abilities that I previously never realised I had.) That's just some examples from one game; there's bound to be plenty more from others.
That being said, if you're going to put this kind of thing forward to prospective employers, know your prospective employer. If your employer understands this kind of thing (mine does: we're a fairly large and well-respected ISP in our part of the world), they'll be far more receptive to this kind of thing (a lot of folks play World of Warcraft here, including my direct manager). If your prospective employer doesn't (let's say a large financial institution), then that's probably going to count against you, for reasons I've put forward above.
At the end of the day, what one does outside of the workplace is totally up to them (obviously, so long as it doesn't negatively affect what they actually do in the workplace!). As one of the other people who have replied to this post says: "there's nothing wrong with having hobbies". We're not all mindless drones; we all have a need to get out there and enjoy ourselves. If we get enjoyment from hacking on the Linux kernel, from socialising with friends, from playing games... so be it.
Re:I bet.. by ArsonSmith · 2012-10-05 03:44 · Score: 2

Also, you can see where the government is involved when you and thousands of others are tasked with bringing materials to repair a bridge and yet here, years later the bridge still isn't repaired. Stupid government scam to extract as much money and value while providing only enough service to not cause riots is a bad way to do business.

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Re:I bet.. by shutdown+-p+now · 2012-10-05 06:08 · Score: 2

Tea Party is a bloc of social conservatives who want to make government just small enough to fit in one's bedroom - and then fit it there indeed. It's just as much antithetic to any sane libertarian as government control of economics. In fact, those who are rational about it should realize that e.g. criminalization of homosexuality would be far more damaging to human rights than higher taxes.
On the other hand, those libertarians who think that they can buy lower taxes by giving up rights of other people are hypocrites.
Re:I bet.. by Rakarra · 2012-10-05 11:56 · Score: 2

And listing WOW as a hobby would be fine (there are positive and negative associations so you proabbly want to consider the audience), but that wasn't the claim. The claim was listing it as a "SKILL".
Playing WOW isn't that much of a skill. But being, say, a raid leader in WOW requires quite a few marketable skills:
* Flattery.
* Begging while retaining a measure of pride.
* Wrangling schedules.
* Recruitment.
* Research.
* Maths (sometimes).
* Dealing with interpersonal conflicts.
* Telling someone they suck but crafting it in a way that they come out of it thinking it was a positive experience and a desire to improve.
* Dealing with the stress as you sit late at night thinking of the raid the next day, wondering "how the fuck am I going to make this work?"

She'd have my vote! by bl968 · 2012-10-04 11:30 · Score: 4, Insightful

They say that like it's a bad thing?

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The Sword of a Thousand Truths by Steve1952 · 2012-10-04 11:32 · Score: 4, Funny

...But the sword was considered to be too powerful for anyone to possess, so it was removed from the game and stored on a one gig flash drive. But it was foretold that one day players who could wield the sword might reveal themselves...

Re:Not surprising by zaibazu · 2012-10-04 11:34 · Score: 2, Informative

Actually over the years WoW went from the go-to MMORPG to a cause of massive eye rolling in geek circles.

I'm sorry, but.... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-04 11:35 · Score: 5, Funny

Someone with an empty socket in her belt does not deserve our sympathy.

Stupid gamers can't even read TFS by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-04 11:36 · Score: 3, Informative

From TFS, "Her incumbent, much to his credit, rejects the attack as 'mudslinging politics.'"

Re:Stupid gamers can't even read TFS by mrchaotica · 2012-10-04 11:51 · Score: 3, Insightful

It doesn't really matter that it was "technically" the party's SuperPAC that did it; they did it on his behalf and he should be held responsible. Maybe the party would learn to back off a little (although overturning Citizens United is required to fix the problem completely).

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Re:Stupid gamers can't even read TFS by Intropy · 2012-10-04 13:06 · Score: 5, Insightful

Absolutely right. And let me just add that anyone who disagrees is a Nazi.
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Re:Stupid gamers can't even read TFS by phantomfive · 2012-10-04 13:13 · Score: 4, Insightful

If negative ads didn't work, you wouldn't see them. Parties use them because people see them and are influenced as a result. They work.

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Re:Stupid gamers can't even read TFS by SydShamino · 2012-10-04 13:28 · Score: 4, Informative

See the Colbert Show episodes where he hands control over his super PAC to John Stewart for just what is "legal".

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Re:Stupid gamers can't even read TFS by Doc+Ruby · 2012-10-04 15:23 · Score: 2

Hahahaha. And Romney's "blind trust" just randomly gave $10M startup funds to Romney's son.
The reason these groups insist on secrecy of their members and donors is because it's obvious that they're coordinating based on who they are and their other relationships.

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Re:Stupid gamers can't even read TFS by Doc+Ruby · 2012-10-04 15:24 · Score: 3, Insightful

He's lying. The only way the Republican Party (that's funding his campaign and staffing it) would do that is if they know he accepts it. Why shouldn't he lie? It worked on you.

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Re:Stupid gamers can't even read TFS by Doc+Ruby · 2012-10-04 15:26 · Score: 2

Where did he take responsibility? He blamed his own party for mudslinging, not himself. As if he's not working closely with his own state Republican Party, that's funding and staffing the rest of his campaign.

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Re:Stupid gamers can't even read TFS by Doc+Ruby · 2012-10-04 23:35 · Score: 2

Romney's lies mostly fly through the mass media without challenge. Recently they have met some resistance, since the corporate owners know Obama's going to win, so are going along to get along with the power for 4 more years.

The mass media is populated by journalism majors, they don't have the capacity to truly do good fact checking.
1. There aren't many journalism majors in the mass media, since there aren't many journalism majors, and there are even fewer jobs in the shrinking industry.
2. Journalism majors are the ones with the fact checking capacity (skills), but there aren't many, and their corporate offices don't pay for fact checking.
3. It's the corporate disinterest in facts (to publish) that leaves facts unchecked.
4. Googling "romney lied" vs "romney plan" gives 4900 to 188,000 , 2.6% .

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Armory link by goodmanj · 2012-10-04 11:37 · Score: 5, Insightful

You're all going to do it anyway, so I'll save you the trouble. Here's her character:

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/garrosh/Santiaga/simple

My question is, how the hell can we trust her to work hard for the citizens of Maine when she can't even find the time to pug a few heroic dungeons? Her gear is terrible! Does she even know where the justice point vendor is?

Seriously though, it looks like she played heavily up until a few years ago. I guess she's spent more time lately on real-life issues. Like running for Senate.

Re:Armory link by jhoegl · 2012-10-04 11:42 · Score: 4, Funny

And level 85 was so 1 week and 2 days ago.
Re:Armory link by Intropy · 2012-10-04 13:09 · Score: 2

How can we trust our government to any rogue who places such a high priority on stamina?

In my experiance... by Kaenneth · 2012-10-04 11:37 · Score: 5, Interesting

People who roleplay 'evil' characters are much nicer than those who play 'good' characters...

Those who play 'good' (particularly Paladins) tend to think they are always right, while 'evil' (Necromancer players for example) are more open minded and accepting.

YMMV

Re:In my experiance... by Mike+Buddha · 2012-10-04 11:53 · Score: 4, Insightful

In my experience it hasn't been nearly as cut and dried as this. There are jerks of every ilk.

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Re:In my experiance... by Anne_Nonymous · 2012-10-04 12:10 · Score: 5, Informative

>> There are jerks of every ilk.
Don't get me started on the people who play as ilk.
Re:In my experiance... by Lehk228 · 2012-10-04 13:13 · Score: 2

i have had the same experiance vis-a-vis christians and satanists

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Re:In my experiance... by Gryle · 2012-10-04 14:06 · Score: 4, Insightful

As a professing Christian myself, I'm gonna say you're running close to a no-true-scotsman fallacy on this one. Sadly it is possible for people to be Christian and to still use the Bible to push some bizarre agenda over issues God really isn't concerned with. If Islam has to claim the fanatics who detonate themselves because of false teachings from corrupt imams, then Christianity has to take responsibility for the Paul Hills and Jerry Jones of the world. Bottom line: we aren't perfect. Anyone who claims to be is lying. We're just sick people telling other sick people where we found a doctor.

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Re:In my experiance... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-04 18:32 · Score: 2, Insightful

a person dedicated to living his life as Christ-like as possible-
Yells at trees for not bearing fruit out of season - Mark 11:12–20
Hates his family - Luke 14:26
Doesn't plan for his future - Matthew 6:25
I think I met him, he's living in a cardboard box over by the overpass....

Re:Not surprising by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-04 11:38 · Score: 5, Insightful

Gaming still isn't mainstream outside of the "sub 35" group

I'd say that number is at least 45 now, and gets bigger with each passing year.

Re:Blind Slaves, most of you... by Mike+Buddha · 2012-10-04 11:46 · Score: 5, Funny

Have you seen that study that suggests that tinfoil hats actually attenuate radio signals? I'll just leave this out here.

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Good thing she didn't have a Panda Warlock by WillAffleckUW · 2012-10-04 11:48 · Score: 2

"I am not a witch!"

"But you play a warlock"

"Well, yes, it was either that or get bogged down playing healers all the time"

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Re:Not surprising by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-04 11:50 · Score: 3, Insightful

I fully agree with this statement. I am 41 myself, and my peers/friends in the same age range (+10 yrs) all grew up playing video games from the dawn of their creation; Pong, Atari 2600, Vic20s, Ti99s, etc.., and continue to do so today.

Re:Not surprising by bbelt16ag · 2012-10-04 11:52 · Score: 2

considering everyone of them play the birds game.. they are gamers!

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This might lead to her losing a lot of votes by VAElynx · 2012-10-04 11:52 · Score: 5, Insightful

from voters playing Alliance characters.
That said, I love the fact that her "secret life" involves a computer game while that of a lot o republicans involve fucking men in public bathrooms.

Re:And thus... by Mike+Buddha · 2012-10-04 11:54 · Score: 3, Funny

I'd never vote for someone in the Horde. I hope her opponent is Alliance, otherwise I'll have to write in, yet again.

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https://www.mainegop.com/ by bogidu · 2012-10-04 11:59 · Score: 3, Funny

503 - Service Unavailable . . . . HA!

Vote Colleen Lachowicz! by Cl1mh4224rd · 2012-10-04 12:04 · Score: 2

For the Horde!

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Rogues... by theurge14 · 2012-10-04 12:09 · Score: 2

Well I was going to vote for Sen. Tom Martin but then I got sapped.

I then waited 8 seconds without trinketing but then the polling booth was obscured.

I gave up and ran.

Could be much worse by Sponge+Bath · 2012-10-04 12:19 · Score: 2, Funny

She could be a Farmville player. That disqualifies you to run even a fry cooker.

Re:Could be much worse by Nemyst · 2012-10-04 15:08 · Score: 5, Funny

Farmville actually qualifies you to be a lobbyist. You get to learn how to nag people until they give up and comply or bribe the system if you don't get what you want fast enough, all while doing absolutely nothing good for society.

I expect when Colleen Lachowicz wins over this... by tlambert · 2012-10-04 12:19 · Score: 2

...they will complain that she ganked the election.

Re:Not surprising by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-04 12:28 · Score: 2, Funny

Agreed.

However, explaining what a MUD is to a young kid is a mistake I only made once. Now I just pretend that MMORPGs just evolved straight from single-celled organisms.

Re:Not surprising by foniksonik · 2012-10-04 12:38 · Score: 4, Funny

West of House
You are standing in an open field west of a white house, with a boarded front door.
There is a small mailbox here.

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Senators should be savvy enough to play a PC game by Seriman · 2012-10-04 13:12 · Score: 2

Maybe if more Senators were playing games and actually using computers instead of hiding from them, we could get some common sense opposition to some of the more absurd tech related legislation.

Re:Not surprising by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-04 13:15 · Score: 4, Funny

You wait too long and night comes.

You are eaten by a Grue.

Re:Not surprising by Minupla · 2012-10-04 13:25 · Score: 4, Funny

> open mailbox
OK.
> mail absentee ballot
OK.
> wait
Nothing changes.

The future is dark.
You are eaten by a guru.

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Level 85? by SuperMog2002 · 2012-10-04 13:26 · Score: 3, Informative

She's a devotee of the hugely popular online role-playing game World of Warcraft

She's still level 85. She's clearly not that devoted.

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Re:Not surprising by LordLimecat · 2012-10-04 13:53 · Score: 4, Insightful

Nevertheless when you read some of her posts it does look like she has a serious maturity issue. Anyone who resorts to calling the opposing party "teabaggers" probably isnt going to be non-partisan, and probably isnt senate material.

I mean, not a huge fan of this kind of politics, but her maturity and partisanship certainly are relevant.

Her opponent is reasonable about it ... by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-04 14:07 · Score: 3, Informative

Her comeback to this should be, "I KNOW the difference between fantasy and reality. Apparently, my opponent does not."

No, it should not be, that would be as dumb and misinformed as the party's statement:

"Martin said he was unaware of the state Republican Party’s press release or Lachowicz’s hobby until contacted by POLITICO. He said he’s met his opponent once so far and she “seemed like a nice lady.” He said he deplores “mudslinging politics.” ... “Somebody’s personal life is their personal life. What you do in society and in the community is what matters."

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1012/82043.html#ixzz28O03FLVo

Re:Her opponent is reasonable about it ... by retchdog · 2012-10-04 14:57 · Score: 3, Insightful

plausible deniability gets one the best of both worlds. nothing to see here.

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Re:Her opponent is reasonable about it ... by retchdog · 2012-10-04 16:27 · Score: 5, Insightful

no, i understand just fine. he gets to look like a white knight to the privacy people, while slurring his opponent to the christ-bothering meddlers at the same time through the side-channel. makes perfect sense.

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Re:Her opponent is reasonable about it ... by milkmage · 2012-10-04 16:31 · Score: 2

"What you do in society and in the community is what matters."
no greifing
no camping
no turtling
and use buffs liberally
Re:Her opponent is reasonable about it ... by drkim · 2012-10-04 19:52 · Score: 3, Insightful

Her comeback to this should be, "I KNOW the difference between fantasy and reality. Apparently, my opponent does not."
"Martin said he was unaware of the state Republican Party’s press release...
"I had no idea that my campaign manager, ahem, PR organization, um, "some group I've never heard of/Republican Party" did this horrible thing."

Re:What about the debate last night? by blackpaw · 2012-10-04 14:09 · Score: 2

Last nights debate was pure politics - not "News for Nerds". Whereas this involves WoW - definitely nerdy.

Re:WoW needs some mature old choices by Riddler+Sensei · 2012-10-04 14:10 · Score: 2

"Now I'm going to veeeeeeery sneeeeaky..."

*clop* ...
*clop* ...
*clop*

Re:As long as her running mate isn't... by Riddler+Sensei · 2012-10-04 14:12 · Score: 2

"Senator Jenkins, how would you respond to accusations that you have a history of recklessly enacting your policies without considering the possible consequences?"
"At least I got chicken."

Re:You are a fool for being influenced by party ad by Martin+Blank · 2012-10-04 14:50 · Score: 2

I'm not voting either side because of the ad. What I am going to do is write a letter and mail it to the address on the site (since I expect the email inboxes will be full and they're not terribly computer-savvy anyway) and explain to them just how out-of-touch this makes them--and every other Republican to many people--look to a younger generation. Maybe I'll even get a response. It would be amusing.

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Lying creep by PopeRatzo · 2012-10-04 15:02 · Score: 4, Informative

Her incumbent, much to his credit, rejects the attack as 'mudslinging politics.'"

Credit my ass.

Is there still anyone in America who doesn't realize that when the party apparatus slings mud and the candidate then "distances" himself from the remarks that it's all bullshit?

It's like the fiction of SuperPACs and campaigns not coordinating their efforts.

It's like those fuckers are laughing at us.

I have to say that I'm impressed with the American people's willingness to overlook this kind of stuff and suffer silently. If it were up to me, there would be pikes around capital buildings with the heads of politicians who lied on them. Of course, we'd have to ramp up pike manufacturing, but that's heavy industry and would be good for the economy.

Tell me most Americans wouldn't feel better to see some politicians' heads on pikes. It improves my consumer confidence just thinking about it.

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Re:Lying creep by Pav · 2012-10-05 03:48 · Score: 2

Northern or southern pike? I don't think the politicians need it though... they already smell fishy enough.

Re:Not surprising by Doc+Ruby · 2012-10-04 15:28 · Score: 4, Interesting

Calling those nincompoops "teabaggers" is polite. Pretending that someone running against the Maine Republican Party in 2012 should be "non-partisan" is immature.

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vs Conservative controlled by fictional character by Anonymous Coward · 2012-10-04 15:58 · Score: 2

I'd rather vote for a real person that spends their free time controlling a fictional character than a real person who wastes their life controlled by a fictional character.

For example, a certain ex-president who claimed that god told him to invade Iraq.

Incidently, that resulted in the Iraqi Christians being liquidated during the US occupation.

Re:Orcs in this world are not "evil" by smellotron · 2012-10-04 17:54 · Score: 2

I'm going to assume that you are making assumptions based on other fantasy novels and games, but in the World of Warcraft, orcs are not inherently evil.

I was an avid Warcraft II player, and in that world orcs were definitely portrayed as the evil team. Most of the magic spells were centered around death and "human" sacrifice, distinct taboo subjects. The artistry, backstory in the manual (yeah, paper manual with flavor text!), and voice acting were all distinctly savage and violent. This "not inherently evil" attitude sounds suspiciously like a retcon established for the benefit of WoW's social acceptance.

Sufficiently ... by Martin+S. · 2012-10-04 19:00 · Score: 5, Insightful

... subtle satire is indistinguishable real world politics.

Re:Sufficiently ... by rsborg · 2012-10-04 20:20 · Score: 4, Interesting

... subtle satire is indistinguishable real world politics.
There is actually a law similar to this [1], and the modern GOP is comprised of a good chunk of various extremists (authoritarian, fundamentalist, libertarian) and their corporate enablers.
[1] http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Poe's_Law

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Weasel words by rsborg · 2012-10-04 20:26 · Score: 2, Insightful

He said he’s met his opponent once so far and she “seemed like a nice lady.”

He should disavow his ad in more clear terms than just not taking credit for it.

Also another reason SuperPACs are the bane of our society - they keep all the connections neatly hidden so proper attribution/consequences for atrocious attack ads or or paid puff-pieces can never be worked out and corporate owners can basically buy elections for their favored rubber-stamper.

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Re:I'm Assuming Dwarf Priests are Okay by Stray7Xi · 2012-10-04 22:54 · Score: 2

Depends was it a true christian priest or some heretic priest worshiping some azerothian sun god

Surprised by BluPhenix316 · 2012-10-04 23:09 · Score: 2

No one has said yet....... I am Colleen Lachowicz and i'm a Orc Rogue...........whats your game? WE can still win this election...........because Rogues do it from behind Tonight's debate will be held in Barrens Chat(Advisor, no no no, if we do that then they will elect Chuck Norris)

Re:Surprised by Valor958 · 2012-10-05 00:19 · Score: 2

In that case, we should absolutely hold it in Barrens Chat... Elect Chuck Norris and he'll solve all the world problems in one day.
[Insert half dozen or so Chuck Norris lines for emphasis...]
Chuck Norris... nuff said :P

Seriously... by xonen · 2012-10-05 01:01 · Score: 3, Insightful

What is that with Americans playing on the person all the time?

In Holland, we have had politicians who were publicly known to visit SM dungeons and black rooms. Are publicly gay. Or just unmarried, like our current prime minister. And no-one, literally no-one, makes a fuzz out of that.

Any debate will be about political issues. The worst accusations regarding personal lifes is about possible activist behaviour in the past. Working for greenpeace for example, like the current leader of the big labour party who has been arrested at least 10 times due to his activist history.

So.. I think this is a good thing. I'm not seeing how a politicians personal life, sexlife, hobbies, children, wife or man, has anything to do with the quality of the person as politician, and the message he or she brings. They are ordinary humans just like you and me with human desires, emotions and errors.

So, why with 'you' it is an issue if a politician plays a rogue in WoW? I wouldn't know, and have no issue with it myself untill she ganks me. If any, it only proves she's just as human as the 2 million other rogues around in this game, and is in for some fun and entertainment at a time, proving she's got a modern youthful mind..

2 cents from over the atlantic.

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Re:Not surprising by sabs · 2012-10-05 01:12 · Score: 2

Not to mention that us 40 year olds were the young 23 year olds playing in Everquest, Ultima Online, DAoC, AO and all of the first generation MMO's that WoW copied from.

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