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Entire Cities In World of Warcraft Dead, Hack Suspected
hypnosec writes "Entire cities in the World of Warcraft have been destroyed with no one spared, not even the NPCs. About 13:00 GMT, forums on WOW started getting the first comments from users regarding players and NPCs dying on the Ragnaros-EU realm in Orgrimmar. Users of the online game started reporting that Draenor had a similar sight to offer. Some of the other realms where this was reported include Tarren Mill, and Twisting Nether."
Also at Joystiq, and (with more screenshots) at WCCF Tech, which reports that "it appears the damage is most severe in World of Warcraft European servers."
sounds like a first world problem
And nothing of value was lost.
G A L A C T U S ! ! !
I deny that I have not avoided attaining the opposite of that which I do not want.
OH THE HORDEMANITY
This is horrible! Please tell us this won't affect Colleen Lachowicz's campaign for the Senate!
#DeleteChrome
...of Warcraft.
The Internet King? I wonder if he could provide faster nudity.
News for Nerds. Nothing that matters.
We must find the chosen one and deliver to him the Sword of a Thousand Truths.
Let's just hope the Chosen Four will again rise, wielding the Sword of a Thousand Truths, to save the World of Warcraft!
"I felt a great disturbance in the 'Craft, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were forced to come out of their parent's basement. I fear something productive has happend"
worse than virtual pandemic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrupted_Blood_incident
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
If you're on /. and don't know what NPC is, or how to find out, you're probably not the target audience here.
"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge"
- Charles Darwin
Blizzard reports the exploit being used has been hotfixed.
It's not like they were alive to begin with,
Sorry, but gray text on gray background is making my eyes bleed.
If you're on /. and don't know what NPC is, or how to find out, you're probably not the target audience here.
If you're on /. and don't like answering peoples' questions, even when it would have taken you less time to type than the snide remark you chose, you're probably the target audience here.
Goddamn you, Leroy!!!!! XD
soylentnews.org Go there to enjoy the people!
It was a troll reply to a troll question... thus very much deserved.
Besides, I agree 100% that if you neither know what an NPC is nor how to look it up on Google or Wikipedia, the story is largely irrelevant to you. Then again I would even wonder why "news for nerds" is even interesting for somebody like that?
Apparently someone discovered a way to do an instant "kill everything" attack and published it. Enough players then used it to kill everything in entire cities. Management has announced that they are doing "rolling restarts" on each realm today. It's not clear if characters will be re-animated, or what.
Properly, once they fix the bug that allowed a "kill everything" attack, they should resolve the matter in-game. Send in disaster recovery crews with healers, security, carts to haul away the dead...
If you're on /. and don't know what NPC is, or how to find out, you're probably not the target audience here.
If you're on /. and don't like answering peoples' questions, even when it would have taken you less time to type than the snide remark you chose, you're probably the target audience here.
A little definition is in order. A stupid question is one you could easily answer yourself in less time than it would take to request hand-holding you don't really need. A stupid question is rude because it is effectively a claim that someone else's time is worth far less than your own, and therefore they should serve you (as if you are some kind of king) and do your own minor legwork for you. That is absurd. I notice you did not submit to it yourself -- you did not answer the question either -- so whether you like it or not, your actions are in agreement with me.
... they deserve the snide remarks they receive. When you consider he could have Googled "NPC" in less time than it took to ask a stupid question, the remark was actually rather polite.
Stupid questions from literate adults who obviously have Internet (thus Google) access
Sorry if you are too soft to recognize the good that comes from not lowering the standards to suit the intellectually lazy. Intellectual laziness and the choice to knowingly embrace helplessness are character flaws. They are not supposed to be validated. They don't deserve it.
Now then, go ahead and launch your personal attacks and invective. That's what those of your emotionally-goverened, offense-driven mentality usually do when the following two conditions have been met: a) they cannot formulate an effective counter-point, and b) they are too haughty to admit when a good point has been made.
It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education. - Einstein
neeet! Not a fan of hackers, but if WoW had a way of doing this then sooner of later it would happen.
I'm not a fan of much of anything, but I can't help feeling a certain amusement at such events. I imagine it really pisses in the cornflakes of the Type-A control freaks who tend to run large organizations. I think they need to be reminded once in a while that not everything can be commanded and made to comply.
What would be truly useful is a way to remind them of this without the need for unauthorized access or any other kind of criminal activity. Sadly, corporations are internally arranged as dictatorships or tyrannies, so this is not likely. What would really interest me is a corporation structured more like a democracy or a republic, where rank-and-file workers share at least some portion of the decision-making. I wonder if such a company would be competitive in the marketplace.
It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education. - Einstein
Sounds like somebody is butt hurt
Sounds like a Charles Stross novel. Did someone rob a bank in the game, too?
That is awesome - a Non-Plussed Character. This would be like someone who wanders through the world, not giving a fig for anything that is going on, mooching about, generally being relaxed and at ease with all they see. What a great idea.
After speculating that the person responsible must be a real badass, police have released this composite sketch of what they think the culprit looks like...
A Real Badass
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People are dying. Have you no shame?
A four digit Slashdot poster is probably quite the catch.
In Role Playing Game (RPG) parlance, an NPC is a Non-Player Character. Anything beyond the scenery and objects that is not directly controlled by a player, in other words. A 'city' is just that - an in-game hub of sorts, which, I think, is usually represented by a dedicated server in online games. Or the other way round. *shrug*.
Whether or not there's any actual role-playing going on in these online games is a different matter.
Look, no SIG!
You'd better believe it!
Ahh - My eye!
The doctor said I'm not supposed to get Slashdot in it!
They're killing characters and npcs, not deleting them. Death is only a short-lived inconvenience in wow.
Killing npcs is more annoying actually since some can take a while to respawn.
The issue appears to be a combination of a teleport/wall-hack and the ability to kill any creature, npc or character with a single hit which obviously trivializes the whole game and enables griefing on this kind of epic scale. The hack was apparently found a couple weeks ago but only fixed today with a server restart.
If he explores all forms and substances Straight homeward to their symbol-essences; He shall not die.
Maybe someone tried this exploit: 'At Klaus's suggestion, (Hailey) kills Steve's amazing character by saying his name, Agathor, backwards.'
Am I the only one thinking that a nude bomb would have been a better hack?
Patent litigation: A doctrine of Mutually Assured Destruction... in which everyone seems willing to push the button
Counterpoint: I find it incredible that you are able to live in a society. People ask questions about everything and anything all of the time and most people don't have a problem with it. Maybe it's because they don't have Google readily available, maybe they are making conversation or maybe they just don't expect you to be a complete dick about something that would take a few seconds to answer and, on a forum, could potentially be beneficial to multiple people.
BTW, nice try with the preemptive, catch-all deflection. The problem is people like you.
Hey, I resemble that remark.
Virtual people are dying. Have you virtually no shame?
So, you're the only warrior who still sees the cities, but have a shitty outlook on them.
Yes, and the first link result from a google search for "What is an NPC?" goes to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-player_character
When I get asked inane questions like that at work, it is very hard not to provide a lmgtfy.com link where the exact same question is entered and answered. I do actually find it abhorrent and pathetic when people take the time to post questions like that when they are so easily answered by a quick search. More complex or open-ended questions are one thing, but asking for simple definitions is pretty lame.
Send in disaster recovery crews with healers, security, carts to haul away the dead..
Somewhere in a Realm of WoW:
The Dead Collector: Bring out yer dead.
[a man puts a body on the cart]
Large Man with Dead Body: Here's one.
The Dead Collector: That'll be ninepence.
The Dead Body That Claims It Isn't: I'm not dead.
The Dead Collector: What?
Large Man with Dead Body: Nothing. There's your ninepence.
The Dead Body That Claims It Isn't: I'm not dead.
The Dead Collector: 'Ere, he says he's not dead.
Large Man with Dead Body: Yes he is.
The Dead Body That Claims It Isn't: I'm not.
The Dead Collector: He isn't.
Large Man with Dead Body: Well, he will be soon, he's very ill.
The Dead Body That Claims It Isn't: I'm getting better.
Large Man with Dead Body: No you're not, you'll be stone dead in a moment.
The Dead Collector: Well, I can't take him like that. It's against regulations.
The Dead Body That Claims It Isn't: I don't want to go on the cart.
Large Man with Dead Body: Oh, don't be such a baby.
The Dead Collector: I can't take him.
The Dead Body That Claims It Isn't: I feel fine.
Large Man with Dead Body: Oh, do me a favor.
The Dead Collector: I can't.
Large Man with Dead Body: Well, can you hang around for a couple of minutes? He won't be long.
The Dead Collector: I promised I'd be at the Robinsons'. They've lost nine today.
Large Man with Dead Body: Well, when's your next round?
The Dead Collector: Thursday.
The Dead Body That Claims It Isn't: I think I'll go for a walk.
Large Man with Dead Body: You're not fooling anyone, you know. Isn't there anything you could do?
The Dead Body That Claims It Isn't: I feel happy. I feel happy.
[the Dead Collector glances up and down the street furtively, then silences the Body with his a whack of his club]
Large Man with Dead Body: Ah, thank you very much.
The Dead Collector: Not at all. See you on Thursday.
Large Man with Dead Body: Right.
-- Monty Python And The Holy Grail
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I've read arguments like yours for decades. I'll summarize what you are doing :
- Some person is an asshole.
- Being an asshole, they need to have their ego stroked as they believe they are God's gift to mankind and everyone should know about this.
- This asshole has no family or friends or coworkers that can stand him, so he needs to find a way to stroke his own ego.
- Said asshole lurks in a online forum until somebody asks a "stupid question". All humans ask stupid questions, some stupider than others. This provides him an opportunity to join the discussion and argue.
- The asshole launches a lengthy rant about the impropriety of stupid questions, maybe even having the audacity to reinterpret the stupid question as a personal insult against himself.
- The asshole can now feel smug and intellectually superior as people respond to his iron-clad argument and fail to make a compelling case against it. This is where the masturbatory ego-stroking takes place.
Looking at your previous posts I can see you regularly do this, and chime in on discussions just to be a dick and add nothing of value to the conversation. It's entirely possible you have no interest in science or technology or "News for Nerds" at all; the actual topics at this site are largely irrelevant to you.
Of course you wouldn't post as AC to do this kind of trolling, because your history of posts are akin to viewing an extensive porn collection, and it allows you to stroke your ego over and over. It's important that you have rich history of shitting on other people, because these little "victories" as a whole give your life meaning.
That's not a game, that's a job, a very shitty one.
Thats the point; its a job. But unlike ones job in the real world, in your fantasy job you can actually feel important!
In the free world the media isn't government run; the government is media run.
No, teleport and wall hack has nothing to do with with it. While teleport and wall hacks are included with these 'gm tools' they have access to, the real culprits are developer items in the game that actually have the ability to kill everyone in a zone with one click.
Was your account hacked? This doesn't seem like something you would write, as it did not in any way praise ron paul or demonize barack obama.
Damn_registrars has no butt-hole. Damn_registrars has no use for a butt-hole.
Unfortunately that’s not what “nonplussed” means, even though it really seems like it should. It means “perplexed, confused, befuddled.”
I went outside today. Yes, the real, actual outside.
The graphics were amazing.
Storyline sucked, though.
Operation Guillotine is in effect.
I am not sure why this was /. newsworthy, but I'll play along.
After the events of Theramore and Jaina becoming their leader, I would have fully expected something like this to happen, with Jaina at the forefront of the battle.
She and about a hundred of the Kirin Tor teleport to a city.
They lay waste to everything in sight.
They teleport home and claim ignorance of the events.
People were saying they wanted a pre-expansion event like the undead plague. This makes up for it; just as annoying.
Because it is a waste of time for him to answer it. It is also detrimental to the website and the forum as a whole to encourage such questions because it dilutes any interesting post people may make.
Compare to any other website where people hold your hand asking stupid questions, you have to wade through copious amounts of stupid questions that far outnumber any post with value. That's what sets /. apart, but it seems that has been going down hill in recent times.
Yes the online world is full of stupidity, does that mean you should ignore it and let it take over your website and devalue it to the ground (and then let them move onto the next cool website with a intelligent community because their site has post of value and then run that one into the ground in a never ending cycle?).
Sure it would have been faster for him to answer 1 stupid question, but then another will pop up, then another. His lengthy post was an attempt to stop future stupid questions not only from the poster he replied to, but everyone else who reads it who is unaware. If that's being a dick then at least it is hard love in an attempt to make the original poster more willing to learn stuff for himself via research instead of getting people to hold his hand to google 'lfg'. But honestly he is completely right in saying that it implies the original poster doesn't value other people's time and expects them to answer the question for him when he could have simply googled it himself and found the answer faster himself without even waiting for someone to reply.
If you really don't know anything about the game in question, why do you care? If you want to know, here
Well, as insightful as you appear to be, I have perused your posting history, Mr Anonymous Coward, and you have far more serious problems.
Compare to any other website where people hold your hand asking stupid questions, you have to wade through copious amounts of stupid questions that far outnumber any post with value.
I've been on boards where the community happily answers stupid questions, and on other boards where they yell about "USE THE SEARCH NOOB!"
I have seen no difference in the number of stupid questions at all. The only difference I have seen is that on the former there tends to be more useful information. Those boards are also much nicer places to "hang out".
It's now what he asked, it's how he asked it. It relates to an article here a few weeks ago about how rude people are online. We see it here all the time; one of my favourites is when someone disagrees with a statement and they say "Wrong. blah blah blah". Maybe it's because I'm Canadian, but to me that's a very rude way to respond, even when someone has their facts wrong. Again, it's not what you're saying, but how you're saying it that gets people's back up.
Interaction with other humans is greatly underrated by intolerant nerds who think we should replace it with Google searches. There's absolutely no reason why you should first look for things in Google instead of asking them in a forum, other than your personal opinion that it's the right thing to do.
Ignoring the question, or replying to it would've been far more tolerant ways to react to the post.
You sound like a robot, man. Chill out.
diegoT
like those in Undercity?
So it's almost exactly like "bemused", both in the definition and in the tendency of people to think it means something other than what it does.
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I just thought it odd that it would return something in connection with nuclear weapons for me while I'm parsing some nerdy flamewar.
It's probably the only other subject where phrases like "entire cities dead" feature prominently.
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what the fuck does WTF mean?
rewriting history since 2109
Non-Player Character. How anyone can play RPGs and not know that I'm not sure.
Yeah, I had a sig once; I got bored of it.
Yep. We were around pre-dot-bomb, building our bank roll when things were easy and now we get to sit back and smugly watch all you kids slit each other's throats for gigs we used to take for granted. :)
Hey grandpa, at least us n00bs can remember our login information.
Jesus was all right but his disciples were thick and ordinary. -John Lennon
Who knows? I just repeat what I see in order to try and fit in.
WoW before it was an intenet only game
should be a dead giveaway....
bickerdyke
And nothing of value was lost
What happened to Tradewars?
It's a percussion instrument. You hit it with a hammer and it makes a booming sound.
While not "important" in terms of perhaps feeding and housing a population, WoW is probably "just as important" as the sports games you crave, or the concerts you go to, or the television channel you watch. None of which I give a shit about. Perhaps the point I am trying to make is that WoW is an activity that several million people participate in every day. While you or I might not, I'm quite sure that several million people do, actually, give a shit. If you argue that it's "not important", I can argue that it's as important as anything else is. Because at the end of the day, we're all dead, we're all specks of dust floating in an endless universe. There is nothing on this planet that is "important". It just depends on your perspective.
Seven puppies were harmed during the making of this post.
Don't make a joke on facebook in the UK about it, you might get arrested.
Slashdot is not a community of the general public. We assume a certain level of shared understanding regarding computers, technology, gaming, etc. You fall outside that community in at least one area. You don't go to photography sites and ask "What does ISO stand for in this article? Why don't you define it when using it in article summaries?" do you?
"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge"
- Charles Darwin
I agree. What if half of the football stadiums burned down from a serial arsonist. Almost the whole, freaking country would loose their minds. And I would be sitting comfortably telling them, "It's just a game. It doesn't matter and is not really important to life in general".